What is more pure?

It took me a whole year before I could. I couldn't imagine her naked.

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>fapping to your waifu
Why would you disrespect her like that?

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This. It feels like cheating. The former feels dirty too, just far less than the latter. I wish I could purge myself of the desires of the flesh altogether.

these

No fap at all. That way you don't cheat on her and don't treat as a cumdumpster.

>all these anons calling cum dirty and disgusting
I don't understand desu. There's literally no reason to exist besides worshipping semen in every possible expression. Nothing involving cum could ever, by any interpretation, be distasteful, unless you have entirely too much meat and too little fruit in your diet. Actually not even then, that biting bitterness has it's own appeal.

I imagine myself making love to my waifu when I beat the meat to her. When I beat off to other anime girls it's just like a regular porno watching them get fucked to solely masturbate.

How would you feel if some Yea Forumsnon forced your grandmother to worship his semen?

It's semen. It doesn't matter who it's from or who it's on, it should be worshipped appropriately.

Why do you guys care about purity?

Would you rather drink from a brand new can of coke or drink from a can of coke that has had 7 penises in it?

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>food analogy

The latter, obviously. Cock is God, cock is life.

Would you rather use a brand new keyboard or one that has had 7 penises rubbed on it?

Whose penises are we talking about here?

Women aren't objects.

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Is that even a question?

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I fap to self-inserting as my waifu and getting blacked as her.

It's a straight male thing, you wouldn't understand.

You should only have sex with your wife.

It's a purityfag mindset, they worship the girl's "purity" instead of actually loving the girl like a regular person.

Straight males don't care about purity as much as you think.

Otherwise, how do you explain sluts?

Nofap for your waifu.

>he doesn't fap to himself making love to his waifu

You don't really love her.

Are you retarded? Sluts are of course for pumping and dumping. However, no straight male in their right mind would want to marry one.

Yikes.

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If purity was so important nobody would be touching sluts. And then they wouldn't be sluts.

Your worldview makes no sense.

So you are retarded then. Read my previous post slowly and carefully this time.

Sluts are for fucking, virgins are for wifing. How is this a difficult concept?

>Sluts are of course for pumping and dumping.

Shows that purity isn't important.

This or literally drawing your own art

I would marry a slut if she was nice and we matched personality wise. In fact the only girl that could match me personality wise would probably have to be a slut...

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The fewer previous partners someone has bad statistically increases the chances that they will remain loyal. Someone posted a chart regarding previous sexual partners vs frequency of divorce. The virgin was like 80% or so, 1 = about 70%, 2 or 3 = 60% or so, and 4+ had less than a 50% chance of staying loyal, with 7+ being only like 20%.

Good job reading the first half the post, now do the other half, I believe in you!

It isn't. For hook ups. Are you actually retarded?

Tasteful lewds on is my go-to. I fap to my waifu and imagine myself taking the pictures.

I didn't count cucks as part of my "straight male in their right mind" statement.

>"straight male in their right mind"

Already amending your statement by attaching subjective qualifiers, huh?

I'm not a cuck. I wouldn't want my gf or wife to cheat on me. Why would you even say that, very rude.

>a slut is the perfect marriage material for me
>no, I wouldn't want her to cheat on me

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Reminder that manwhores are just as bad as sluts and that if you aren't pure yourself then you have no right to expect purity in turn.

I thought it was already a given. So you unironically think cucks aren't fucked in the head? Not sure if you're a cuck or dumb roastie.

There's a difference between "non-virgin" and "slut"

It's pretty easy for unwanted losers to keep from having sex.

Not even the sluts will take them.

Not really, women prefer men who have had many or even currently have partners, whereas men prefer women who have had little to none.

Realized this when I joined the military. Some guy was bragging about going around fucking girls, lying about not having STDs, and pretending to be looking for a long term relationship and then dumping them a month later for fun. Is there a word for "man-roastie?"

Oh, I thought you meant slut as in she had sex with different people BEFORE getting married. Not having sex with different people AFTER getting married.
Okay, in that case I understand, yeah I don't know why someone would want the latter unless they're a cuck.

>So you unironically think cucks aren't fucked in the head?

I never said that. I'm just pointing out that your original statement was merely "straight males" I'm just blocking your attempt to obfuscate that by adding the "in their right mind" qualifier.

A slut would be someone who inherently wants to have sex with tons of men. I'm thinking the word you're looking for is "kinky". You want a kinky masochist wife to appease your fetish, not a wife who has an inherent desire of wanting to fuck hundreds of men which would likely still exist after getting married.

I think these guys have trouble differentiating between women with a promiscuous past and women with an unfaithful past.

I'm guessing you didn't read the latter half of the original post like I asked you to the first time. You absolute retard.

>loving a 2D character like a regular woman

>It's a straight male thing, you wouldn't understand.

Your original post, buddy. What did I miss? Where was the "in their right mind" qualifier?
Your post just so you can check for yourself.

Yes, I do love my waifu just as if she were a real person. You gotta problem with that?

Oh okay I guess you're right.

>186446082

...

No, but you do. That's a mental illness.

So you're abandoning your original point then? It's not a "straight male thing"?

Shit thread aside, the best way is to mostly fap to porn other than your waifu but occasionally fap while imagining the sex with your waifu in your head. This way you get to have the experience of making love to her, without ruining your image of your relationship with all of those times you wanked off to something degrading, or it took a very long time to cum until it wasn't even fun anymore etc.

I'm pretty sure that's a criminal due to the STD lying/spreading part. The absolute state of ameristan.

What a baseless and meaningless "argument". I hope you don't feel smart for posting this.

It's only a mental illness if you actually think she is real. I am well aware that she is not real.

Wait I want to have sex with tons of women, am I a slut? I'm pretty certain I would never cheat on my hypothetical wife though.

If you can't follow simple quote chains then stick to reddit.

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>Wait I want to have sex with tons of women, am I a slut?

You have the heart of a slut.

No because there is a double standard for men and women in regards to this, because men and women are not equal.

Which diagnosis?

>No argument

Concession accepted.

>reddit

I'll take that as a concession, thanks.

>sluts are fine when I say so

The mind of a purityfag.

>abandoning the argument because you were told to fuck off
I'll take that as a concession, thanks.

Men and women are not equal, and it's laughable that you think anyone here would ever think otherwise. Deal with it tranny.

who cares
she cant complain i do what i want

What argument did I abandon?

Your original post was about "straight males" A follow up post specified "straight males in their right minds" Since you would no longer go back to defending purely "straight males", I took that to mean you abandoned the original point. You didn't not offer a rebuttal at this point and fell back on the old "call him a reddit user" standby. I took that as a concession.

And here I am contesting your attempt to take a concession from me. Do you see how this is done?

>Men and women are not equal

I guess that's why you'll only ever have a waifu instead of a partner.

>All this talk about fapping to sluts

Almost no anime girls are actual sluts.

You said I retroactively conjured the words "in their right mind" after some point in a quote chain, and I took a screenshot to show that I had already said it before you complained that I hadn't previously said it, exposing you as a retard who can't read. And considering how defensive you got over that reddit insult, especially since it was just an add-on at the end of an argument instead of me purely calling you reddit and not saying anything else, it's clear as day that you are in fact a reddit faggot. Now fuck off.

I guess everyone in the sports world is now magically single because they segregate the sexes instead of letting men play against women. Delusional tranny.

"Anime sluts" to me are girls that have every trait of a slut, except for desire for sex, which is the only one taken away for fear of deterring otaku. Mika from Idolmaster is a good example. Should logically be having casual sex for enjoyment, but doesn't because that wouldn't be "pure."

Tell me user, what does worshipping a girl's purity mean? How do you do it? Can you read people's minds and tell that ACKSHUALLY they don't think this but instead they think that? Or are you just making a bullshit post in an attempt to sound intelligent?

Shut up you don't even watch anime

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It means they don't fap to her because that would cause the girl to lose her perceived "purity". So they fap to other girls instead, essentially cheating on her. See: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madonna–whore_complex

If they actually loved the girl, they wouldn't get so hung up on her purity and they wouldn't fap to other girls, only to her.

This is stupid. The fact that I don't have perverted fantasies or desires about a girl doesn't mean that I can't love her and that I instead just care about the abstract concept of purity associated with her.

Not him but why would a desire to make love to a girl be perverted?

Do you fap to other girls who you perceive as less pure? You are cheating on her if you do this.

Otherwise you are simply asexual and therefore what I'm saying doesn't apply to you.

news to me

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Pretty much this, it fucks with your head because you want the girl you love to stay pure so instead of degrading her you fap and lust over other girls instead to keep that purity. Once that purity is gone so is your love. Its a weird kind of love to feel towards someone, 2D or not but thats how I feel about anime girls

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I don't fap to any cgdct doujins. I used to not fap to 2hu aswell but I realized that was just too much

>Do you fap to other girls who you perceive as less pure?
I do and I wish I could stop fapping in general. I don't fap to her because it just feels out of character and immoral because fapping is wrong and I don't want to use her as an instrument to do something that I consider to be wrong. However, if she was my real wife then yeah I would absolutely want to have babymaking sex with her.
The thing is that I can recognize that at the end of the day it's just an anime girl who isn't real, so I'm not really cheating on anyone. If it was a real girl then of course I wouldn't do it. That said, this doesn't mean I can't love a character and have a connection with her.
I might sound confusing but that's how I feel.

>lewding 2hus
repent

Not that user, but yes I can only fap to girls who I think of as whores.

You should never fap to your waifu. I have done that maybe 5 times in the 10 years I've considered Saber as my waifu and every time felt dirty afterwards.

It sometimes gets hard though.

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Examples?

What are you suppose to do if your waifu is obscure and there is little to no good porn of her?

Rejoice. Why would you want other people lewding your waifu?

Make your own porn.

>tfw no good wholesome lewds but a ton of extremely degenerate stuff
It's like a curse where I have the worst of both worlds. I need to learn to draw because is my only option.

But then you'd be getting off to her therefore making her less pure!

>fapping is wrong
Fapping is not wrong unless you make it wrong by fapping to disgusting fetishes like a degenerate. There's absolutely nothing with imagining yourself making purely vanilla love to your waifu and fapping to that.

>The thing is that I can recognize that at the end of the day it's just an anime girl who isn't real, so I'm not really cheating on anyone.
I recognize my waifu isn't real, but I avoid fapping to other girls and cheating on her because that would hurt her feelings and she wouldn't want me sexually involved with anyone else but her.

What if 2hu is his wife or wives?

Sticking to either or worrying about it is retarded. You aren't degrading your waifu unless you let your image of her change. Which shouldn't happen unless you're a retard who can't sepparate her real canon self from fanart.

That's dumb. Your waifu is the one you would make babies with. Doing mating love with one's waifu is the purest kind of love to ever exist and the feeling would be nothing less than heavenly.

Then, don't fap at all. Fapping to others is the highest disrepect to your waifu. Why do these faggots always associate sex/masturbation with immorality, filth and whatever else is in their autistic heads? You disgust me.

Wanna know what's immoral? being a fucking cuck

which just means you're a fucking hypocrite and you're rejecting your natural biology

this guy gets it.

gayest thread on Yea Forums today, congrats

Sure, but what if you're the only one putting his dick in that can? Would you still consider it impure? That's the real question here.

This guy also gets it.

/thread

>Not doing it
What are you even doing here?

>fapping is wrong
Someone get this choir boy the fuck outta here, please.

There's a difference between that and pretending it's okay for manwhores to go unjudged, and sluts to be disdained or looked down upon.

>fapping to women makes you a cuck
Kill yourself, tranny.

You're thinking of daughterus.

All idols are sluts. Even 2D ones.

>not drawing porn of your waifu exclusively for your own use

The former. A waifu should be for love rather than worship.

This.

If the end result is fapping, the first option makes the most sense. Besides, if anything I do it with the thoughts of babymaking and a mix of emotional, romantic, and carnal love.

As silly as this thread is, I'm happy some real discussion is being made.

I just check her tags first and if theres nothing new I do whatever
did I fuck up

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>the closest thing to sex with your waifu
>the closest thing to NTRing your waifu with every single girl ever
Gee I fucking wonder what's more pure.
This thread smells underage.

touching your dick makes you used goods

>tfw lost purity before finding waifu
I'm non-pure garbage. Now I only fap to her but "right".

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I legitimately can't jerk off to Jeanne. I don't know why, I love the saint.

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>try to fap to my waifu
>dont want to fap to other people fucking her
yeah unless she somehow gets yuri or solo doujin it's not happening

There's probably non explicit lewd-art out there, that and a bit of imagination. Or if you are autistic enough you can learn to draw like I did.

It's not good to talk about things like that.
(You) are not pure if (You) can talk about things like that with someone.
It's your private things between (You) and your waifu.

Better than ugly street thots doing degen porn

I don't masturbate at all.

this
the very concept just sounds weird and awkward if you've never done it before

I actually used to masturbate, but I stopped roughly one year ago.

Not fapping

ops wrong thread

>not exclusively having sex wth your waifu for procreation in the missionary position and also holding hand

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>tfw can't procreate with waifu

That only makes it worse. An object can be cleaned rather easily. How does a sentient person wash away the reality that they've been physically intimate with 7 people and and are in an existing relationship with 0? They can't.

A history of failed relationships is not a desirable attribute to have in a partner, and any old relationship is a failed one.

Marisa.
Reimu sucks off old youkai men for money.

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this

Third-person porn of your waifu, where she fucks another character that isn't you, is self-NTR. It should feel repugnant and it's probably bad for you psychologically.

Pure PoV porn is possibly okay but ideally you fap to softcore or solo porn of your waifu. Reading something like a doujin about someone else and then imagining doing something like that with your waifu is acceptable as well.

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And Marisa does it for fun.

Semen retention is purest.

>tfw there is only cute softcore consensual porn of your waifu
I've been blessed by the gods

>consensual
Your waifu would willingly have sex with a guy? Whst a whore.

1/3
i saw a school class the other day. sightseeing. and i saw a girl walk to a dude and kiss him. randomly. of course it was her lover. but still. he stood there and she was driven by some temporary and impulsive urge. it wasn't a passionate or loving kiss. nor was there any reason behind why she kissed him. she did it just because... she kissed him the same way a dog pisses on a lamp post. it's when you instantly knew for their "relationship" to have no basis. and i am sure they fuck, too. what a waste of a person's virginity.

when i was younger, like 13... i was instinctively attracted to stripping whores. but only sexually. because of hormones and it being normal to have these natural stereotypes of parts of the woman screaming "i am for sex please fuck me." with a "sex ed" book having encouraged me to masturbate mindlessly when i was ~9/10. and everything. but then i had my first crush @ age 14 (platonically i think, on a 18 year old 2d girl). and suddenly something in my mind changed. in that things started to require a reason. which is probably part of why i began to reject sexuality. and now, 10+ years later, i still have no use for sex based on my own perspective. which makes sense seeing how anons always says that men are more rational than women. and it's akin to how it is with breasts = inherently i would have no problem with there being big ones. e.g. if there is a girl and she earned and deserves them for being a good waifu. and if she is then also proud of them... of course you appreciate them. and then you can be empathetically happy. or consider it empathetically erotic. because the stereotype and belief you assign isn't made up on the spot. instead it is based on something rational. but even then big breasts cause back pain. and real girls don't "earn" them. and a non-deluded girl will not be proud of having big tits just because she won the genetic lottery. about an irrelevant thing. (size really is irrelevant)

2/3
on a social level and empathetic level... when i had my first mostly platonic (?) crush on what is a "waifu"... things started to require a reason. i wanted to know whether my natural empathy was rational. and things were no longer attractive "just like that." it's not autistic in that i have to deduce it. instead i gradually got rid of natural stereotypes. and things started to require a reason when there was none.

you don't "deduce" reason like an autist would. instead you create it. because there is none. and because there is none, it's also silly to have sexual desires (if you are effectively asexual and act "sexually" to make your virgin partner happy... is it bad?). because it's all made up on the spot. by you. driven by instincts. with your instincts stereotyping "this part of the woman wants this and that." but then it's shallow interaction. which already came up earlier. so breasts aren't attractive. though they can be if the woman earned them and is proud of them and wants it (you appreciate them as part of their personality, while viewing their physical appearance to be a manifestation of their personality/spiritual side... "physicality" doesn't exist, which is very much a thing in regards to 2d and character design). but i don't know whether the woman really wanting it is true. i used to believe it when i was 13. and then, if the woman thinks the same way, sex becomes a secondary thing, and purity is inherently a proof of character. which is intuitively obvious and becomes even more obvious when looking at divorce statistics.

an autist has to deduce false reasons = "i feel nothing, but it has to be this and that way."
an anti-autist deconstructs false reasons = "i feel something, but it isn't this and that way."

which can over the course of many years make you relatively asexual, or cause for the source of all "sexual" enjoyment to be consciously empathetic. whereas an autist can act even without reason. even if his actions might not make sense.

>his waifu will die a virgin
Do you have a nun fetish or something?

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3/3
"she kissed him the same way a dog pisses on a lamp post." it's not higher or possibly lasting love. and them fucking is a waste of virginity. i am sure what i experienced towards the 2d girl was infinitely more... idk... it made me rethink things. if falling in love makes you question sexuality... then you are probably qualified to talk about why virginity matters or not. otherwise you turn into a "we were madly in love and fucked all day" character. who "reasons" that "virginity is bad and i don't know why it's good?" and then he probably pisses on a lamp post. and wonders why his relationship doesn't last. (these people have no idea about truly social interaction. especially strange because they shame "puritans" and believe to be a step ahead of people who care about virginity, when in reality they are suffering from the dunning-kruger effect.)

and then there was also one woman with relatively comical "everything goes great until the 3rd date, at which point we sleep together, and i never hear from them again" antics. why would anyone want her as partner? i mean it really is true. thirsty males who only want sex just "pump and dump" her. so they don't need to enter a relationship. and anyone else looks at her in... i don't know... it's disgusting. alienating. and comical. why do you want to be with her? i am sure, when being with this kind of person, you would feel infinitely more lonely than you would when just being alone. she has absolutely no concept of loyalty, even platonic love, or anything. it must be a disorder. being with her would be a waste of time. maybe you can have friendships with this woman. that never go as deep as platonic love. but otherwise this person proves to be inherently incapable of anything more. not even animals behave in a way this unsentient.

etc. i am sure there are many reasons as to why people act this way. or care about virginity. or don't want sex with non-virgins that isn't spiritual.

4/3
(i do still love altruistically/dominantly worshipping my 2d waifu btw. and i have no problem with her wearing cute white and pink lingerie (maybe occasionally black) that isn't whoreish, assuming that she would enjoy it. gentle, but still adamant and passionate. tender, but not weak. and so on...)

thanks for reading (or not reading) my blog.

maybe cinderella sluts are. but 765 idols are pure!

Based Holofag.

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This guy gets it. Ships and idols are all sluts.

>idols
>pure
Also
>4/3

purer than you're wife

>he doesn't exclusively masturbate to rape porn of his waifu

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The latter is debauchery.

I ringed all my shipsluts that reached level 99. It's basically just to boost their stats and nothing else.

Women are objects of desire.

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>In fact the only girl that could match me personality wise would probably have to be a slut...
Is your waifu a slut user?

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>implying

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>unfaithful to waifu
Disgusting.

I actually find fapping to jeanne lewd as fuck. Something about lewding a saint in the missionary position gets me.

I fantasize about making out, cuddling, and having slow, passionate babymaking sex with my waifu every night before bed. The only thing I'm troubled by is the fact I'm also starting to have fantasies about my daughteru. I don't know where I went so wrong. I blame my lolicon.

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Better kys then.

Fapping to your mom

>It sometimes gets hard though
you know it does

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Marisa does it for free.

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But fapping feels good man.
Plus they work well with dark magick.

>fapping to CHEEEEEEEEEEEEEN

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Oh no, that pic's unrelated. My waifu and daughteru are pic related.

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>fapping to anime characters
>not degenerate
okay buddy

It's the least degenerate you can get. It is the pure bond of an user with their precious waifu in holy matrimony.
You clearly are new.

i only fap to nothing for i am no degenerate

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That's the biggest degenerate there is.