What was Toriyama's reasoning for changing Bardock's story?
Dragon Ball Super
Because he made it better
What exactly did he change? That Bardock didn't get the ability to see the future from some random jobber and instead used his brains to look at the situation and see that something bad was about to happen?
Everything about him was downgraded. He just ripped off another story with no goddamn effort put in it
April 2019 Characterfag factions:
>The Chads:
Goku, Gogeta, Broly, Freeza, Moro
>The Jobbers
Vegeta, Vegito, Jiren, Gohan, Humans
>The Patricians
Piccolo, Roshi, Zamasu, Beerus, Buu
>The Shitters
Puar, Pan, Kefla, Cell, El Hermano
he made Bardock a good guy, even tho he genoci trillions
The only thing that was made better about him was his attempt at stopping Frieza's death ball
This is your protagonist.
Tyson Mike.
This. People think that Toei's anime special was ever canon, but it never was.
Cope
*raughs*
he did not change bardock backstory, he changed the general story to fit broly, it was broly story, we already know everything there is to knwo about bardock, we didn't need another special of him, also its better that a low class fighter died like a low class fighter with the rest of the planet, we didn't really need anything else from him
>Jobza
this is that protagonist's rival
nice shop, here's the original
It absolutely was
>fake Bardock: WOW HE WAS SO HE STRONG, HE WAS BORN LOW CLASS BUT ACHIEVED ELITE TIER POWER, YES, THAT CLASS THAT ONLY INCLUDES THE KING AND THE PRINCE
>real Bardock: Low class scum, nothing remarkable about his strength at all, truly a humble origin for Goku
>fake Bardock: WOW SO BADASS HE CARES ABOUT NOTHING AND NO ONE BUT HIMSELF, MUH SAIYANS CAN'T DEVELOP SOME KIND OF AFFECT NOT EVEN AT THE SLIGHTEST DEGREE
>real Bardock: Didn't even know or cared if he had brothers or other family (according to Toriyama himself), didn't really care about others except for his life companion and finally cared a little for his son, althought he's not even proud of this and thinks it's her fault
>fake Bardock: HE WAS SO COOL HE WORE AN UNIQUE COLOR FOR HIS ARMOR, NO ONE WORE THAT COLOR YET BUT HE DID BECAUSE HE WAS COOL, HE EVEN WORE A BANDANA COVERED IN BLOODDDDDD
>real Bardock: Plain and boring armor, he's just another saiyan, humble origin for Goku again
>fake Bardock: MAN HE WAS SO UNIQUE, NOT ONLY ELITE SAIYAN TIER BUT HE WAS ABLE TO SEE THE FUTURE AND KNEW GOKU WOULD BEAT FREEZA GOKU WAS DESTINED TO BEAT FREEZA BARDOCK AND GOKU ARE SO COOL OH MY GOD
>real Bardock: The only peculiarity of him was using his brain once to realize Freeza would betray the saiyans, that's literally the only reason for Goku to survive and for Bardock to be the one trying to fight Freeza
>fake Bardock: JESUS LOOK AT HIM HE'S FIGHTING DOZENS OF SOLDIERS AT SAME TIME EVEN AFTER BEING ALMOST KILLED BY DODORIA MAN I WISH I COULD SUCK HIS COCK
>real Bardock: He got his ass kicked by just a bunch of fodder soldiers, Freeza didn't even remember his armor right after killing him
In the beginning of Minus we literally see him murdering a bunch of people you dumb spic.
Cringe. Z chads don't associate with Soiper cucks.
That doesn't make the special canon, just Bardock's existence and the fact that he resisted Freeza at the last minute. Nothing else was said about him in the manga.
The seeing the future thing was the most epic thing about him so yeah. The struggle to changing the future he knows will happen and his visions of Goku are what made him fucking memorable in the first place
Only the fact Bardock died rebelling in the space was, nothing else was canonized. The elite tier power, the future seeing powers, the crew... all that never happened.
So what you're saying is being unique is bad
>tries to toei's anime special is canon
>posts a manga page
Are you retarded? That scene Toriyama put in the manga is still canon and the ONLY canon thing about Bardock in the series before Minus came along.
this confirms that super is noncanon
Toyo needs to do a canon version of the destruction of Vegeta to fix the headband inconsistency.
how should kefla die?
>That scene Toriyama put in the manga is still canon
Bardock's last stand is drastically different in the movie you retard. Frieza wouldn't even remember him
what, are protagonists not allowed to fail? I sincerely hope you're just shitposting and not just too low IQ to understand what makes a character or protagonist compelling
from being raped
literally the only difference is the headband you sniveling autist
Based
wow user chill
comfy
you asked
fuck mean to reply
Being fucked to death by Goku.
And the armor
And the fact he's in space
soulless.
HUMANCHADS WHERE YOU AT
>bardock is in space
>treating the existence headband as a trivial thing since it proves you wrong
Concession accepted
Dragon Ball was never good
goku is too weak
Literally wrong. GT art has plenty of soul.
In the trash.
Explain the headband
>this headband and armor chip means Bardock's mind reading powers were canon
(You)
I see 0 soul in that pic.
Are GTspics going to start spamming pedoshit when they get btfo again?
Then why are you here?
god damn that's ugly as fuck
Champa, then.
*blocks your path*
fags
Because I like shitting on Dragon Ball and the autistic spics that like it.
>>That scene Toriyama put in the manga is still canon and the ONLY canon thing about Bardock
So you admit it they are different? Because you denied it eariler
>That scene Toriyama put in the manga is still canon and the ONLY canon thing about Bardock
Let's just get a couple of things out of the way early.
>GT is fucking shit
>Super Pan>GT Panlet
>Goku and Vegeta's win/loss records are fucking abysmal
>All the humanchads (including gohan who leans far more into his human half) have had the best lives out of all characters and are by far the happiest
>Jobren will be beaten up by the next villain to put him over and will become Piccolo 3 (who himself is Tien 2) after Hit
>Caulifla will never be relevant again and Kefla will just become Jobtenks 2
>Trunks' hair is canonically blue and retroactively always was
>Cell is a fucking loser faggot and Frieza is the best villain
>your character a shit
i don't think he's that cruel
Reminder that there are no genuine fans in these threads, it's 100% shitposting
You are pathetic user
18 is shit
Pan will just be another Goten and Trunks
frieza is a trash villain
>all those best boys in one pic
Based.
This
Based.
would 18 have slept with beerus if he came to earth looking for pussy instead of the SSG?
Based.
Obviously.
I think you mean Chad villian
beerus fucked bulma
You said this last thread and you are still wrong
18 seems like the sort who would cuck her manlet poor husband
Nope. Garbage.
why?
yes but this is about 18
>spinelesshan utterly embarrassed by Lord Furiza-sama in his most repressed form
Just how fucking weak was inCell?
Don't project your cuck fantasies onto a children's media user.
She's whore.
The strongest.
>lost to Trunks like a complete dumbass
oh no no no...
Money
NTR is the thinking man's fetish.
>Bandana isn't even black to show it's full of blood
You just played yourself.
Sorry meant to upload this
how strong would she be?
soon
how would she act around beerus sama
She'd get beaten by Oolong.
>gine
Weaker than Yajirobe.
>all this projection
Sorry, literal cuckolds, but Chadllin just has what you don't. I'm sorry you had to offer up your wife to Birusu-sama but that just isn't how it works in all households.
doubt
Umigame tier
Shitlin invites Goku over to their house to fuck 18.
farmer with the shotgun would unironically blast a hole in this bitches head
but she has SSB
see here
Fixed
Kekarotto can't even take care of his own wife never mind somebody else's. How many good boy points until he's allowed to sleep in bed with Chi-Chi instead of Bejita?
>fantasies
See That panel is Freeza's memories, he just can't even remember Bardock right because he was such a loser
what would he think of gine?
>Beerus eating Bulma's pie is Toriyama's PG way of showing that Beerus is cucking Vegeta
based
>shitgetafag
>Literally wrong. GT art has plenty of soul.
DBGT is also very comfy.
Gaygeta also can't do shit about it, too. funny.
>Z and DB separate entities
retard
They are considered separate entities, because Toei is retarded. Too bad, user.
Would be more accurate if they were all fourth panel.
Kawaii
Nothing made after the 90's with the exception of YO! GOKU AND FRIENDS RETURN, counts, I can watch Baedock and Trunks special any time I want, and I have.
Dragon Ball super means nothing to me.
Based!
based
>Literally created to be Toei's cashgrab
>GTpedos will unironically try and put their shitty show over the grand standard of comfy friendship
Why is he so cute?
And he's pretty lovable.
Awful Thread
Awful Franchise
>GT is fucking shit
Based on your opinion.
>Super Pan>GT Panlet
We'll just have to wait and see how things pan out.
>Jobren
BASEDren.
>Cell is a fucking loser faggot and Frieza is the best villain
If given the chance, Cell would overshadow Freiza, completely.
This.
Worst threads on Yea Forums lol
>Supa Saiyajin Buru completely and utterly cucked by the chad Torankusu and his normal super saiyan form
hell fuckin yeah
>Panfag likes Jobren and Cell
I don't like Pan anymore.
>BASEDren
I just lost any respect for you that I had.
i could give two fucks what toei thinks. do you see a fucking Z?
Beerus would fuck Videl and Chichi too
pure saiyans are trash, its just that hybrids never fucking train
Toriyama based him off his cutie kitty, so naturally, Beerus also is adorable
This confirms Bardock's special as canon.
HE CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT
>Panpedo is not only a GT fan but a Jobrenistani and an inCell
you need to stop posting. I feel bad for your fellow Shitrenfags, you're embarrassing them
Proof that GT is canon
>Uub is referenced in Super
>Pan is in Super
>Bra is in Super
>Broly gets SS4
>incell
cringe fuck off manletfag.
Toriyama:
>Liked the Bardock TV special so much that he decided to put him into the manga afterwards
also Toriyama:
>nah Bardock was actually just some loser that Freeza didn't even remember
HAHAHAH, cope, dog, cope.
*hits bong*
>Panshitter losing the last bit of respect anyone had for it by admitting to liking Jiren and Cell
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Toriyama is senile and garbage now. You can consider DBS non-canon.
>nerve immediately struck
Very interesting my little pedo friend
Only edgefags like Bardock TV special.
>Liking Cell
>Liking the most jobber villain in Z
only soifags like super
based
Not even his fellow pedos will back him up now, he's done for
What the fuck man.
Only autists like Dragon Ball in general.
Who, Frieza?
Toriyama:
>liked the Bardock special, included a little tribute to it in the manga
also Toriyama:
>has the right to do whatever the fuck he wants with his characters in his universe
she'd got pork'd by him
I tire of your whimpering pet, RELENT.
Name one thing after Z that isn't a Toei cashgrab.
Right here, mate.
Fans understand Dragon Ball better than Toriyama does, as far as I'm concerned Super is just Toriyama's fanfiction
the canon Super manga
I feel bad for you.
How?
>tries to get them all to kiss his prince
why is he like this?
What canon Super manga? The only manga Super ever had was all promotional mangas.
are you asking how sex works?
anything super related is non canon
>likes Jobren and Cell
>I don't like Pan anymore.
I never said I liked Jiren. But he did btfo of everyone in the ToP.
As for Cell, I believe that he would hasve a better chance at eventually mopping the floor with Freiza. Considering Cell has Saiyan DNA and can become stronger the same as the Saiyans can.
Reading this hurt my head.
Non canon to your headcanon, sure. But literally none of us care about you or your headcanon, so it doesn't really matter
I don't see how oolong could beat a saiyan
>non-canon shitnime's last episode aired over a year ago
>manga still going strong, selling more and gaining popularity with each release
>mfw
nah, your headcanon is non canon. sorry superfag.
>calls him "basedren"
>i-i never said i liked jobren.. haha.. please like me again guys..
>BASEDren
>I just lost any respect for you that I had.
As I said, I never said I like Jiren, however, he did btfo of everyone in the ToP.
>btfo of everyone
>he would hasve
>Freiza
AHAHAHAHA THE PANSHITTER IS ESL
> in the original, he actually gets a power that explains why he’s the only sayian to know what Frieza is gonna do
> in the remake, he’s so intelligent thay he’s the only one to notice
I can't hear you over the 2 (two) skipped arcs that the """"canon"""" manga didn't cover because it couldn't promote them.
you need to stop posting. I feel bad for your fellow Shitrenfags, you're embarrassing them
I never said Jiren was good, but he did btfo of everyone in the ToP.
Sure thing, faggot.
>Hey guys! Let's bring back Dragon Ball, and put it in a span of time that destroys any sense of anyone the status quo be altered so we can keep everyone's more iconic designs!
Humanforce and friends:
>YamCHAD
>Tien ShinCHAD
>CHADllin
>CHADshi
>GODzu
>Mr CHAMPtan
>BASEDel
>CHADjirobe
>CHADroids 17 and 18
Allies:
>Puarfriends
>Oolongbros
>Piccolobros
>Friezachads
>Gohanbros
>toriyama-written manga skips arcs covered in toriyama-written movies
>this confuses the spic
Facts
>Super is and will always be canon
>GT never was and will never be canon.
>The manga is still selling strong
>The anime will inevitably return
>The Broly movie is the most successful in the Franchise
>my favorite character will never have retarded characterfags
feels unbelievably good bros
super and gt are both non canon shit, they don't compare to DB.
The manga did BoG, and RoF is so garbage it'll be better off if it was Frieza's fever dream.
>promotional manga tells you to go watch the based chadnime
>twice
>"t-this means the manga is c-c-c-c-c"
Poor Tracertacofag.
>Saiyan God Goku literally screaming in agony for his life against non-super saiyan Broly
>Frieza takes a much worse beating in his base form from raging SS Broly and shrugs it off to transform to gold
OH
HO
HO
Denial is one hell of a drug
Don't forget the original blonde-hair transforming character and number one Tenshinchad fan, LaunchAD
>hasve
"HA HA HA (salivates) user made a spelling mistake"
Based. Nothing but true chads right here
>good animation
>great art
>amazing music
>drama
>tension
>unforgettable
Edgefags my ass.
>Yamcha
pathetic shitter
>Tien
stoic faggot weeb, was cool in his own arc
>Krillin
based comedy jobber, knows his place
>Roshi
absolute chad
>Chaozu
has this faggot ever even won a fight?
>Mr. Satan
absolute chad
>Videl
battered housewife
>Yajirobe
based senzu-man
>17 and 18
boring, no personality. both hot though
and I assure you, Freezachads are NOT your allies
Your favourite character is probably some lame-o like Uub and nobody fucking cares enough to characterfag them
>Toriyama writes two movies
>canon manga tells reader to watch said movies
>Toriyama has nothing to do with Toei serial anime
>canon manga never refers to it
hmm
>arguing with soiperfags
bardock episode was kino
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Based Launch poster, would probably beat the shit out of pre-ToP Gokek as the dumb fuck couldn't even dodge bullets.
Shut the fuck up jobber.
ENOUGH, pet, return to you kennel, AND BE SILENT, your master commands you.
>calls him "basedren"
>i-i never said i liked jobren.. haha.. please like me again guys..
Face it user, Jiren practically won the ToP
>manga skipped arcs meme
Look at this poor toeikek
>all saiyans should be bland, not a single unique saiyan should exist, they should all follow the dumb class structure which shouldn't even work because of zenkai, their savage nature should be dropped and have them be reduced to discount humans
All I got from this post was DBS zoomers shouldn't be taken seriously.
Focusing on Goku and not on the next generation is one of the biggest problems I had with GT.
>knows his place
HERES YOUR FUCKEN PLACE YOU PURPLE FAGGOT
YOURE OUTTA THE ALLIANCE
>focusing on goku
literally the same as super
I can feel the fucking soul from that pic. damn
>the canon Super manga
>art by Toyotaro
Lol.
Uub, Pan and Bra first appeared at the end of Z.
>anime came first
>actually tells a complete story, unlike the promotional manga
>"it's n-not canon t-though"
Makes you think
Dragon Ball is for manchildren with no taste.
I love Pan! how can one girl be so perfect?
You have shit taste user, GT is great
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Go away
>monkeyhater doesn't want to join an anti-monkey alliance
off with you then
*raffs*
>anime came first
Wrong.
>actually tells a complete story
Where's Broly? Where's Moro? Where's everything before Beerus? Kek
Shit taste, desu..
t. hiatus x hiatus faggot
cope back to your kennel dogpuppet
>Yeah,the manga sure is shit compared to
>>O MY FINAL KAMEHAMEHA CAN'T TAKE OUT ZAMASU
He's immortal, no shit it didn't kill him. It required spirit energy.
>>O MY GENKIDAMA FORMED FROM 12 STARVING ORPHANS
He also got energy from turtle, eighter, anyone else in the world who was alive, and Goku/Vegeta
>>O MY GENKIDAMA WHICH I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW TO USE
What does this even mean? He clearly knew how to use it.
>>O MY ZAMASU FUSING WITH THE UNIVERSE
So you're basically admitting you don't want anything interesting to happen. Typical of a Toyonigger who's entertained by still pictures.
>talking shit about Chadshi
He could rape Frieza easily.
>thinking freeza likes humans anymore than he likes monkeys
see even when forced to work alongside them he sees them as expendable fodder
I didn't say I liked Super you nigger
>The Broly movie is the most successful in the Franchise
Are you sure, Fusion Reborn and Fist of the Dragon were way more popular here in Europe.
I'm sure Freeza-sama gained some respect for the old man once he saw him move against Jiren, but let's not get crazy. We saw how quickly his flame burned out.
>Where's Broly?
Mangakek doesn't even know about the movie
Of course not since his precious promotional manga didn't even cover it HAHAHAHAHAHA
>Where's Moro?
July
>Where's everything before Beerus?
DBZ
>tfw when you're a better character than Gayza and the humancucks
If you need MORE evidence of humans being superior, just remember that Goku became shit the second he stopped considering himself human. He was only good when he thought he was human.
Agreed, everything in GT looks beautiful.
Now explain me who can beat El Cabron.
nah, not even close.
goten....
Soihan is more Human than Saiyan
>224 posts
>43 posters
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Fanservice. So it can be the following ones: Bardock, Gogeta again, Broly, Cooler, Kefla, Jiren, etc
.
I actually miss the simpler days of Gohan vs Caulifla
>Mangakek doesn't even know about the movie
I know, because the manga itself mentions how the movie happened, just like the movie credits the manga and never the canned anime.
>July
Nice headcanon that won't even change a thing if true, toeikek.
>DBZ
So it's not a complete story, then, since you need to watch other products, not just the DB Super anime based on Gregory. Oh and you also need to read Jaco's manga.
Nice try, toeikek, nice try, you can leave now.
Gohan now that he doesn't rely on transformations anymore
these threads are autistic, who didn't know that?
Krillin could have killed Freeza right there, but he's not the protagonist so it didn't happen.
>Gohan completely throwing his Saiyan lineage and nature to the wayside and becomes a normal human man, fully taking after his mother's side and becoming a scholar of earth, settling down and raising a family
false flagging faggot. Chadhan is human through and through. This is the work of a Jobredditor I'm sure.
Reminder that SS3 is the best form. If you disagree you're a spic.
>Aesthetics
Just look at that face. A truly chiseled chad. And the hair? Raditz's design done right. I won't even get into the divine glow it gives off, it's not fair to the other forms.
>Power
Up until Super ruined everything, it was the strongest Saiyan form that could stand up to the worst threats imaginable.
>Drawbacks
SS3 has its drawbacks that make it challenging to master. Fans of inferior forms will claim that these drawbacks make it a "shit form" but the truth is indeed the opposite.
>Vegeta can't learn it
Perhaps most telling is the fact that Vegeta cannot achieve Super Saiyan 3, suggesting that the form is inaccessible to manlets.
that's cause jirenfags and brolyspics just copy the chadforce vs cutegang memes
>bardock
>cooler
>u6 thot
user, are you smoking?
>Jobhan doesn't rely on transformations
So? Are you one of the retards that still think Molo powers has something to do with transformations?
Sure, sure, Pablo.
>Chadhan is human through and through.
funny, considering the only time gohan ever came close to being a "chad" was when he went super SAIYAN two
Toriyama can do whatever he wants, so logic have no place here.
Based Panbro, let the haters know that GT is canon.
GOHAN GODHAN CHADHAN SMARTHAN GREATHAN KIDHAN TEENHAN 9YEAROLDHAN BABYHAN STRONGHAN AMAZINGHAN GANGSTAHAN HOODHAN ASUSTEHAN CHESSMASTERHAN GENIUSHAN ULTIMATEHAN BLANCOHAN COLUMBINEHAN GOATHAN SAIYAHAN SMUGHAN SUPERHAN GRISHAN DEITYHAN JESUSHAN ABSOLUTEHAN MERCILESSHAN ALLMIGHTYHAN MODHAN JANITORHAN Yea ForumsHAN BASEDHAN BILLSHAN ULTRAHAN INFINITEHAN BLESSEDHAN PROFESSORHAN BIGDICKHAN INTELLECTUALHAN LEADERHAN DIOSHAN MASTERHAN MONSTROHAN BRASHILHAN DONHAN BUUHAN LUCIFERHAN TOUGHHAN DADDYHAN 404HAN MODERNHAN SS4HAN ALLAHUHAN TALLHAN ASTOLFOHAN TRAPHAN SUPREMEHAN PROSPECTHAN BREADHAN CONQUISTADORHAN MESSIAHAN SLAYERHAN CASSANOVAHAN UNWRITTABLEHAN
gine doesn't count. also women can't beat the cock
Liking DB is my own business.
Which was originally because of his hybrid nature, before SS2 was retconned to be achievable by regular Saiyans
It is non canon just like the dbs tv anime produced in Toei Philippines, yes.
*raughter stops*
And full of soul, like the original and unlike Super.
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>literally defending the actual story being skipped over
Promotional mangafags, everyone.
>Nice headcanon
Nice headcanon.
>So it's not a complete story
Just like how your promotional manga isn't a complete story because you need to read the original manga to get the stuff before Beerus AND you need to watch the anime for two whole arcs after Beerus.
Your """"logic"""" is shit.
notinthemoviehan
>What does this even mean? He clearly knew how to use it.
uh no, Trunks does not know the spirit bomb. The spirit sword was a complete accident despite:
>Toei own rules stating you can't make a spirit bomb while a super saiyan
>Trunks never learning it
>Earth's population dwindling, it definitely shouldn't have made him stronger than Zamasu
From a writing point of view, the Spirit Sword was the absolutely worst thing from the entire canon DB series. No other moment shits on established rules like this, all for a mediocre end to an arc.
Toei a shit.
>So you're basically admitting you don't want anything to happen.
I know shonen is for kids and DB was never known for being smart about anything, but a professional story should try to be somewhat consistent. DB stopped being a gag manga in Z.
>literally making shit up
...
good. he would've just jobbed, as it was a movie made to sell fusion/broly toys.
Don't try and get us OGbros on your side, you weirdo. We don't want you and your depraved pedophile fantasies and shitty art style.
head, meet canon
*raughs*
I'm going to kill Jobgeta again.
what would happen then
I don't know man, DB was all over the place and people were going wild, they had dudes dressed as Goku welcoming you in the cinema, the reaction to this new Broly movie is pretty lukewarm.
>Salagir tracing Toyo
>goku will never kiss his shit of a wife
Feels good.
>top 11 best selling anime movies of all time
>"lukewarm"
From the Daizenshuu:
>Saiyan genes have an extraordinarily good compatibility with Earthling blood. Because of this, when the two races are mixed together children with formidable power are born.
Thanks for exposing yourselves as newfags without any actual knowledge.
OOOOO MY ASSPULL POWERUPS
fuck dbs
>Sure thing, faggot.
But Jiren did
didn't he
user.
It's... It's Videl with Cell ?
>says nothing about SS2 being hybrid exclusive
Retard.
yes, i'm aware it's canon that mixed saiyans have "high potential" whatever the fuck that means. you used that to headcanon up some bullshit about SS2 being exclusive to hybrids.
Based.
based
The original had Goku naked way more often than GT, user.
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>implying retardza wouldn't cut himself in half against jackie chad just to escape the hypnosis and rape combo
No, he didn't. He got eliminated like a bitch.
She's so pretty.
>For instance, when I got a lot of "Don't kill Vegeta," I deliberately killed him. (laughs)
BASED
Yes
If only Vegeta fanboys weren't such little bitches like the character, Jobgeta would've stayed dead.
Why the fuck is Gohan using the Final Flash and why is he PULVERIZING Videl's corpse?
What were they, these transformations appeared out of nowhere.
Salagir isn't the one doing the tracing
>comfy
Exactly
>soulless.
You didn't watch DBGT did you user?
RIP.
>still alive
based
Agreed, GT is full of soul
don't listen to the haters.
There was no officail comment on it, but that was what the narrative in the Cell Arc was implying, SS2 was supposed to be the culmination of Gohan's hidden potential that was foreshadowed since the Saiyan Arc.
>transformation
It's literally just super saiyan 2 Trunks with a rage boost. That's like saying "my bulma" vegeta is a separate transformation
That doesn't mean anything, no one even mentions this new flick, Fusion Reborn and Fist of the Dragon were a fucking event.
Broly movie is has very positive reception everywhere
cringe toei fanfiction, thats what they are.
>the GTspic is spoilering his images now
we're still not going to give you any (You)s faggot
No, he didn't. He got eliminated like a bitch.
I said Jiren practically won ToP.
even bad people do good deeds
What gave you the idea it's the Final Flash? Gohan didn't do the Jesus pose.
>he thinks his tribe in South America where he has to travel by rickshaw to use the village computer is representative of the wider world despite all evidence to the contrary
You're a dumb fucking retard pablo
this
i came here only to post his. also ssg is a close second to me. blue is shit.
Except he didn't, retard. He lost. You should fucking kill yourself for tainting Pan-chan with your Shitrenspic garbage.
those machine gun punches from Cell
Truly Perfection
Why didn't he get this rage boost after Black killed his mom or after he attacked Mai, he only got it later on out of nowhere
so because gohan's hybrid nature got him SS2 first it means goku and vegeta getting ss2 as middle aged men is a retcon? gohanfags are so FUCKING sensitive god damn
>he thinks his racism constitutes an argument
list clearly created by a buttblasted gokunigger.
he's right though. no one gave a sliver of a fuck about those movies in the first world. broly was an international event.
Stay mad Escobar, your movie sucked.
the only villain to actually kill Gayku besides based Piccolo. Truly perfect.
so...
>new is boring simple and humble therefore is better
>old is cool and unique therefore it sucks
you mention like 4 times GOKU'S HUMBLE ORIGIN!
like that matters or something?
I don't know. Why didn't Goku go super saiyan when Tambourine killed Krillin, or when Nappa murked all of his friends?
>literally admits to being a spic
Ahahahahaha Get the fuck off the village computer Pablo, Juanita wants to stream her telenovelas now
That's Masenko
vegeta fucked chichi in the canon manga.
retarded super fanboys are always like that. they also love shitting on OG Broly.
it was agreed upon by consensus in a past thread, you must have missed it
>Agreed, GT is full of soul
It's true, it is and according to the article in your post, it clearly outlines that DBGT is canon.
>don't listen to the haters.
Thanks user, I won't
>broly was an international event
Only in your central american country, you dumb spic, no one gave a single fuck about it here in Europe.
OG Broly, or THE DEVIL is superior to gay ass dogly. Fuck you Superfags.
he thought it was too dramatic, things like this aren't very dragon ball
That maybe true, but it is undeniable that Jiren put up a marvelous fight.
HE FUCKING LOST
>giving the vassalposter attention
stop
>3-0
Just a matter of when.
based false flagging jobrenspic ruining panfag's image for the greater good
i like jiren a little more now
Vegeta???!
He never won a fight.
>Non Canon Jobly: Hates Goku for retarded reasons, weaker than super saiyan Goku, dies a virgin
>Canon Chadly: base form keeps up with super saiyan Vegeta, tragic backstory makes more sense, ends film with cute green GF
>Very last panel
Super is such fanfiction tier garbage.
He never won.
>Broly becomes the 11th highest grossing anime film of all time
>Resurrection F is the only other Dragon Ball film in the top 30
>it became the second highest grossing anime film of all time in the U.K. and Ireland, making over a million
>makes 377,570 euros in the Netherlands
>854,000 euros in germany
>1.82 million in spain
>2.31 million in italy
>fusion reborn and wrath of the dragon not given a theatrical release outside of Japan
There's your facts now shut the fuck up Pablo, you dumb cunt.
He did the second pose
>Masenko
Except Masenko pose is completely different
i never get who uub is
its just a generic ki wave
Cell
The reincarnation of Buu.
>when 2-0 just isn't enough
He tried, but there really was no escape. His Prince was going to get him sooner or later.
he is Nam's son
some gay ass nigger that will never be relevant
Buu's name backwards. Also, he's the incarnation of him.
I don't get why fighting Majin Buu's reincarnation stirs Goku's fight boner considering he already fought Beerus, Zamasu, Jiren and Broly at this point.
EoZ is pretty much never happening at this point.
A future proud member of the Humanforce.
*always
That's right. He won every time. While unnecessary, you can take Goku's concession, too.
>goes to Earth
>jobs
>goes to Namek
>jobs
>gets healed
>jobs
>gets healed again
>jobs, dies, Goku saves the day
>gets resurrected, goes to Earth
>jobs
>trains for a year in the Time Chamber
>jobs
>trains for another year in the Time Chamber
>jobs, fucking Gohan saves the day
>trains for 7 years
>jobs, dies
>gets resurrected, goes to Earth
>jobs, Goku saves the day
>goes to his wife's birthday party
>jobs
>attains divine, godly power, goes to Earth
>jobs, dies, Whis and Goku save the day
>goes to Universe 6
>beats up a 12 year old, jobs
>goes to the future to help his son
>jobs
>trains for another year in the Time Chamber, returns to the future
>jobs, his son's existence is erased
>fights in multiversal tournament with his family's existence on the line
>jobs, Goku saves the day
>goes to Earth
>jobs
>goes to Namek
>jobs
Your prince, Bejita-sama.
Today, we have a second special guest for the reminder. A returning veteran.
The reincarnation of Freeza
Not without major retcons anyway
OH NO NO NO OH MY GOD AHAHAHAHAHAHA
>born to die in Vegeta's place
>does so by way of a twink chopping him up
>his beloved shota thrives
The best ending he could have gotten, really. He was even avenged. It was inevitable.
Christ, he is pathetic.
>jobgeta
>HE FUCKING LOST
That is true, in theory.
Beerus Saaaama
>yfw your rival never gives you a challenge
The suffering of the Prince is great.
The least he could do was try to put the guy over if he was going to be buried by his son and vassal.
Based.
man just shut the fuck up
Post characters that will never win
>Freeza came back and cucked Vegeta again
>Freeza would assfuck F. Trunks if he wasn't hiding in another timeline with another version of himself
>Goku had to save Vegeta and Trunks with the Zeno button because Vegeta's Gamma Cuck Flash was useless
absolutely based
How will 3-0 go down? TKO? KO? Concession?
Did you miss fucking mexico having a train completely painted with DBS BR pictures?
souce?
I'm not joking. SHUT UP.
>all these attempts to hide behind other characters
>picks the slug that worships the Prince
>>fusion reborn and wrath of the dragon not given a theatrical release outside of Japan
Lol, you're fucking stupid, those two movies had a theatrical release as a double feature in Europe, the Broly movie made more money because it was released worldwide so you spics were able to watch it, Fusion Reborn and Fist of the Dragon are still way more popular than your spic movie.
G-Gohan i'm sorry...please fuck my wife...
>Here in europe
Are you german by any chance? The movie flopped like fucking crazy there. Here in France we got shit ton of ads and events everywhere. Italy and spain was crazy about it too.
Post the Doc.gif
fuck…
*will always win against Goku
Still not enough? Do I hear 4-0?
Humiliation.
SSB G-Gine!?
Jobgeta won against 19 and Pui-pui though
Burter, Jeice, Pui-Pui, Yakon are those who never ever won a fight.
dont wanna get beaned
AAAAAYAA
Thanks doc
>various
But seriously, why does AT do this to his MC?
i gotchu
>based false flagging jobrenspic ruining panfag's image for the greater good
>i like jiren a little more now
The good name for Dragon ball GT shall be preserved. Anons who can't stand the sight of based DBGT are seething. They know it's canon, comfy and rewatchable.
AT does not will this.
Vegeta has a better life than Gokek, so he won.
Toyo and Tori already said it's happening you retards and Uub even appears in Super
>steals an assist to 1-1 Cell off Gohan
>gets Goku killed
I think this diluted dose isn't going to satisfy me, nor Gaygeta. More, please.
No he didn't kid, vegeta was defeated like a bitch, then he came back as a monkey but by then Goku had already lost all his strength.
Even as a giant monkey vegeta was unable to kill Goku, vegeta LOST, he lost and nothing is going to change that.
oh…
Ah, I see you've CHERRYPICKED.
Not to worry, I've copy and pasted my post so you can read the ENTIRETY of it this time.
>Broly becomes the 11th highest grossing anime film of all time
>Resurrection F is the only other Dragon Ball film in the top 30
>it became the second highest grossing anime film of all time in the U.K. and Ireland, making over a million
>makes 377,570 euros in the Netherlands
>854,000 euros in germany
>1.82 million in spain
>2.31 million in italy
>fusion reborn and wrath of the dragon not given a theatrical release outside of Japan
There's your facts now shut the fuck up Pablo, you dumb cunt.
Now tell me, how much money did your pathetic films make?
Even solely in Japan, Broly made over ten billion more than your favourites. It's funny how you couldn't even get the name of Wrath of the Dragon right, either. You called it fist of the dragon.
Stop BTFOing yourself my friend.
How will they address this plus there are other things like Beerus and Whis hanging out with them and the Pilaf Gang living with Bulma and her family.
BASED
BASED
>still trying to use the Pickle against his Prince
He knows the score. Vegeta did what he could not (be undefeated against Goku). Even had the chance to erase him, but took pity on the vassal.
SHUT UP. I will not repeat myself again spic. Back DOWN.
He is introduced with a superior version of Kamehameha. Goku still uses that low tier trash. How did AT let this happen to his MC?
>Vegeta will humiliate Goku
That goes without saying, really.
IT'S STILL NOT ENOUUUUUUUUUUUGH
MOOOOOOOOOOOOREEEEE
>mad at piccolodick in 2019
kek
>how will they adress this
Literally nothing wrong with it, Super in fact reinforces the idea of Uub being super strong. Freeza was SS and became SSGSS tier in 6 months in Super, imagine the potential Buu has
>Beerus and Whis hanging out with them
They aren't with Bulma all time, they aren't even in Earth in the current arc
>Pilaf Gang living with Bulma and her family
What about it? That just means they didn't go to the tournament
Frenchies beat the Italians kek.
Toei are a bunch of fucking retards, they should have released the movie less than a month apart everywhere, they would have gained so much more money.
Bejita won the goku vs vegeta 1v1 the first time they fought tho,
sure he had to go ape but still won, he was defeated thanks to krilin gohan, ape gohan and yajirobe.
after that vegeta killed dodoria zarbon
let's cut the fag some slack, he jobbed for a decade after that kek
It's time for Champa
>goku spending time with family and friends
why would someone draw such OOC pics? only one step away from fucking chichixgoku porn
le funni jobber pastaXD
It's no good doc, he's gone completely feral; we'll need to do an operation.
what if he came to earth looking for pussy
>defeated
Not by Goku. Not now, not ever.
>then he came back
Foolishness. Overpowering in the struggle didn't do more than deal emotional damage to Vegeta despite the 77% power advantage. Goku put himself in so much pain he could barely use KKx2 (not enough to match Vegeta's base). Just the opposite was true. Vegeta gave Goku another chance, but he blew it. Too bad the others didn't step in to save him sooner, eh?
>as a monkey
You got a complaint, boy?
>unable to kill
You think some manner of win condition changes the objective outcome? You're not the first to resort to this. You won't even be the last. What next? His feelings? As is evident, Goku was left a cripple who could not continue. Vegeta, however, was more than able to carry on (even after draining himself with power ball).
>he lost
You can say it all you like, but the outcome remains the same. Goku was completely defeated. He even made a promise to get him next time (to his then best friend) only to duck him for a decade, get forced into it and job again. 2-0 was never in question.
yeah, hated waiting a month for the movie to come out
DBS goku is not DB Goku.
Sorry. Old Bardock was way better. Having the saiyans be a savage race makes sense for being planet pirates.
It makes more sense too with Bardock getting a zenkai boost and causing a commotion. Frieza at least took notice of Bardock in DBZ. New Bardock shouldn't be on Frieza's radar.
What kind of operation, doc?
>chichixgoku porn
Where do you think Gohan and Goten came from?
Champa is just DB Eric Cartman.
Yamcha is very obviously Gohan's father
see again and again… and again ∞
No eyebrows kills it for me
Jobhan is YamCHAD's son. While Goten is Goku's son, of course.
i don't remember yamcha going super saiyan
>strong
>smart
>doesn't cheat on his wife
even ignoring the obvious reasons, this can't be true
I don't remember Launch being a saiyan either but she still went blonde from time to time.
It's normal.
>Y-YAMUCHA SAMA! THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR PLEASING CHICHI!
shut up jobfag
>mad
That's the job of Goku's fans who are like this , but not joking. Such outrage over a simple statement of canon fact.
that just shows how lazy toriyama is
>implying Chichi isn't a saiyan and that Chichi doesn't stand for "chili" or something
He'd find but not necessarily be interested in it.
Danke Doktor
What about her dad?
Ideally one that can make his rival give him a challenge.
>seething
cope
this isn't canon right?
I'm a massive, unapologetic Gokufag and I recognize 2-0 for the enormous cope that it is. At least your filenames are funny and you're not a waste of space like the Pankeks.
>see Vegeta talking about 3-0's eventuality
What of it?
if you don't consider dbs canon, i guess
or Resurrection F
Ox King is canonically a really good cook, so there's definitely a connection. If not, the Chichi's mom is a saiyan.
Vegeta can go SS3.
Raging blast 2
Goku can go SS5.
DB AF
>Yamcha
Damn, what a chad
Why they made Pan so cute?
>beat a saibaman so bad that it killed itself
Cope
Bulma really missed out.
user, future trunks was supposed to be future gohan.
he should reuse that design on the right already, he used that nerdy hair one in RoF.
>Yamshit
It's a very simple reminder. No deeper meaning behind it. I just want people to come to terms with the trauma. There are some unpleasant truths in DB. This is just one of them (another being Gohan is the strongest unfused fighter in canon). Sort of like "SSJ" being wrong in every language (officially, too).
Some take it to imply Vegeta cannot lose to Goku, Vegeta is stronger than Goku and a variety of other things going beyond the simple statement of fact (not wanting to face the truth). While all that is fun, I'm just offering counseling here (a chance to face the music). It really shouldn't be such an effective way to get a rise out of so many, yet it is (time and again).
Hiding behind other characters, deflecting to other areas of interest, scrub talk, favoring the subjective over the objective and so on. Anything to avoid accepting the whole of AT's will. Frankly, I don't think the old man even knows he did this.
Were he asked, he would think Goku really won against Vegeta (both times, even). He certainly wrote Vegeta's EoZ speech to suggest a bunch of things were so (that just weren't) as with Goku's motivation for having a former villain spared (just wanted a rematch). Still, I'm not complaining. I don't mind this eternal duty.
Your mom was fucked by me
Last night
Reminder
youtube.com
Why would you want a protagonist that never loses? That'd suck.
toriyama didn't have anything to do with bardock
af is not official licensed material tho
>never kissed
>doesn't know when his kids were born
>unable to have consensual sex
there are things more embarassing than jobbing
Why would you want a protagonist that ever wins? That's suck.
>That 1994 interview where Toriyama talked about the characters' penises
kek
for those who don't know
>Goku: 14cm
>Krillin: 13cm
>Yamcha: 17cm
>Tenshinhan: 16cm
>Vegeta: 9cm
>Gohan: 17cm
It worked for Superman
Even more proof that Yamcha is Gayhan's dad
Subtract 10 from Yamcha, Tien and Gohan, 8.5 from Vegeta, and it's accurate.
Thank you Toriyama for letting us know.
nah it proves that gayku has a small ass dick
>always jobs to Batman
Does that make Bats his Vegeta?
Nah, Batman is everything but a manlet
>still carries a torch for his Prince
Sad. In the end, there could be only one winner.
>14cm
>small
it's considered average in most countries
When Piccolo will shine again and stop being a jobber?
>the dicklet speaks
feel bad for you
Hey, stop shitting on Yamoshi, he didn't do anything.
you KNOW this manlet is also a dicklet
when shitku and jobgeta die, so probably never.
When he goes evil in the next arc. Will state that he never fully merged with kami because king piccolo is dead/gone or something.
>nah
Ah, you're right. Batman has last to Superman before. Vegeta never loses to Goku. AT won't allow it.
>doesn't even see that Krillin and Vegeta are even more of a dicklet
majin piccolo instead of majin manlet would've been so much better.
What makes GT so much better than Super in every single possible way, anons?
>jobgetafag can't even read
fuck off spic
that's a given. chichi is never happy with him even after she rapes him
yet they both satisfy their demanding wives so it is just goku really. krillin must have grown up in ways goku didn't other than in terms of maturity
9cm is fine for Vegeta's height though
the vagina has a depth of only 5cm. I've got a 7cm penis and my gf thinks it's huge
toriyama doesn't care about him, he only cares about goku, vegeta soon probably going to be replaced by frieza or broly too
This.
goku's a retarded manchild
I mean besides Pan of course.
>GOHAN AND YAMCHA SAME SIZE
son confirmed.
vegeta has a 9cm dicky
Never saw an excuse this pathetic, especially knowing Krillin is even more of a manlet than Vegeta
That sounds great.
gohan is taller than goku it makes sense that his dick is bigger, he gets his genes from ox king.
....no?
during the saiyan arc, in the manga it's shown that krillin is 137cm while vegeta is 112cm tall (90cm not counting the hair)
>YamCHAD has a big dick
Not surprised.
fagku should've stayed dead
>implying it doesn't already happening
Vegeta is weaker than both Frieza and Broly, that's undeniable. He just sticks with Goku because Frieza hates saiyans and Broly can't be controlled during fights right now.
>being this upset about his message being warped
Not familiar with this bit of fun?
Or have both. Vegeta and Goku were mostly off-screen. Have Gohan need to deal with his dad going wild (against his will). Like World's Strongest, only not able to let daddy take care of it.
>admits he warps the posts
lmao you lose I win
>king vegeta genes
>9cm dicky
>all this years of being an asshole could it be because vegeta is a dicklet?
his dad is like 6 ft, but he's 5'4, of course he's always angry.
I doubt Saiyans care about size.
>admits to being mad
>thinks himself the victor
A classic.
>yamcha 17 cm
>kekgeta 9 cm
top fucking kek, I bet bulma regrets leaving yamcha and moaned his name when she and vegeta fucked
GT had soul while Super does not.
>always angry
You don't understand his suffering.
>CHADly notably have a gigantic cock
Nah, it's just Vegeta and Goku who are average
well, in the manga Bulma said that Yamcha was too popular with other girls and she was jealous, so she married Vegeta because he was so ugly no other girl would ever try to steal him from Bulma
GT had the best designs.
A classic defeat for you, jobgetafag, hhaha, just like jobgeta
>Soul
>Toei-original cashgrab
Does anyone want my pan koikatsu card?
Be advised that i made her ass 10x as fat
>mexican dad vegeta
>A 3 inch penis is average
Vegeta is micropenis tier
>Vegeta's gaystache
nah
AT was too cruel. Spiting the editor once with Bulma just wasn't enough. Had to kick the dog again while he was at it.
Rather, she was tired of him being too afraid to do more, being a loser/jobber, etc. When he failed to use King Kai to keep in touch, she held that against him, too. From the very beginning, she had no patience for his low status.
>classic defeat
Way to bring us back to the heart of things.
On your knees
*bows to his own sisters*
Superman gets his as swhooped all the time.
>literally becomes a millionaire, successfull baseball player
yeah, bulma is missing out
cope nigger.
>Vegeta becomes a jobless jobber who loses every fight he's in
>Yamcha becomes a rich chad. Loved by millions and feared by all Z fighters
>plays a child's game
>makes chump change
>versus a warrior prince who always beats up the 'world's strongest'
Her choice was an easy one.
>every
see: >loved and feared
You can only take a joke so far.
After Bojak is brought into canon I think he should go back to his long shaggy slightly saiyajin inspired hair that he had as a kid.
That was Toriyama's design.
Honestly Yamcha not ending up with Bulma is probably the saddest thing about Dragonball. All my man wanted in life was to get married. He finally gets a girlfriend and keeps her for like...8 years. Then some angry monkey comes by and immediately puts a baby in her and suddenly he's a "good husband". Vegeta once killed and ate people. I think that's a bit worse than a wandering eye (which also seems out of character for Yamcha)
Yes, Soul.
>it's soul because my peepee is hard
Tien's (prospective) woman got memory holed along with his relevancy as a fighter.
Thinking about it, Frieza was literally the only bad guy Goku killed by himself Post-Z era.
He only killed him in the original timeline. Trunks kill stole.
He made Yakon go boom
Yeah.
Oh yeah, there's him. Also I guess I can throw Burter in there too, even though he technically didn't kill him.
At least you admit it
OHNONONONONONONO
bulla is hotter
>always defeats Goku
>his son always defeats Goten
The apple truly didn't fall far.
Anons here seem to disagree
strawpoll.me
>vegetafag is a pedofag
>calls it pedo to make use of a non-sexual gif used to remind about the score
Introspect on this.