What's your homo OTP?

What's your homo OTP?

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JImo ai
Jimo ai

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Konami for laifu.

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DarkxBright is old and busted, blueXblue is the new hotness.

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How does he suck dick with those pointy teeth?

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I prefer Velvet x Elenor over Alicia x Rose.

Posting OTPs that got BTFO

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(You) and Me.

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Miyu x Illya is better

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By being really, really careful.

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>all of the himegoto flowers translations have been scrubbed from sad panda.

Feels bad, man

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>homo

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...and the fact that they're so similar makes me ship them even more.

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Superior homo pairing from the same franchise

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Can't disagree with this one.

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>Mikleo is literally a girl
>probably doesn't even have a penis
>fujos praise this as good homo

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Self-inserts exist

He has a feminine penis and only one hole. Deal with it.

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Fujos are very adamant with the seme/uke dynamic. In fact, there was a small shitstorm in Japan after a The X episode preview because Sorey pretend to be a damsel in distress calling Mikleo as a joke. The fujos were angry because Sorey is the man of the relationship and it has to stay that way. Fujos see it as a caricature of a normal, read heterosexual, relationship where they can fawn over both sides. Also the Naruto fujo community in Japan was savage back in the day, narusasus and sasunarus hated each other and mutually destroyed their communities for debating who was the man, Naruto or Sasuke.

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One more reason to abhor fujoshits

I kinda wished we had those fun dramas in the yuri community, it must be very meme worthy.

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Still better than Western fujos and their moralfaggotry.

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>>probably doesn't even have a penis
He definitely has one. Why not? He was even born as a boy, he's just a not-manly looking boy.

>Fujos are very adamant with the seme/uke dynamic.
While it's true a lot of people aren't a fine of switching, it's definitely a generalization that isn't always true. YoI and Tigay and bunny are famous homo pairings in recent years that are pretty versatile.

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It isn't, that user is generalizing. You should take the world of anyone who says "x group of people that included thousands did it" as a grain of salt.
People here still think nips don't laugh at all those LN tropes.

That's true. Western fujos is a special case of autism. Jap fujos can be cringy but in general they're cool with being leave alone drawing their doujins, with some unfortunate exceptions. In the west we have pic related

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more like berubetto x magilu

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The greatest love story ever told

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>In the west we have pic related
A manufactured outrage?

It's autistic but other than having a shit fit there's nothing really wrong with that. It's a fantasy so they have the right to how they want their OTP to be like. Not to bring up reality but actual gay men have their own preferences and many prefer just topping or bottoming. Some western fujos like to act superior about how it's "healthy" to switch and they're not like other fujos that uses seme/uke dynamic but they're forcing an issue that doesn't really exist.

Homosexuals × stones

What does that dumb celestial see in that smelly hobo?

>the new tg:re chapter is homophobic
>i'm a lesbian and it was boring to me
>i have ptsd

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>What's your homo OTP?
What about my One True Family?

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What's with Yea Forums obsession with fujoshi's behaviors?

Just an excuse to whine over women

They are hilariously autistic

kiseki is anime

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Otaku still rage every time a girl has sex. I don't think anyone can point fingers, just look at blech endings or erased.

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Underrated

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Or Naruto. Basically shippers that take things too seriously are autistic.

But, I am not a negro like you.

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Yes, just like how fujos and /u/ rage when their ship gets killed by "hetshit".

Truly the kino ending we deserve

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Sorry, but Yukino is for Hachiman only.

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This is more common with /u/fags, or at least they're more vocal because autism is way more common among males and women are used to pick any bone they can

Childhood friends raising a demonic baby really is the best.

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Why choose when you can have both like god intended. Is Zestiria the X the only example of yuri and yaoi pandering going hand in hand?

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This barely happens, especially with fujos.The TG is one image that gets posted over and over that cherry-picks some twitter and tumblr autist.

When was the last time you heard someone raging over TG? Meanwhile Yea Forums still has threads about Rukia or Sakura. Rin vs Saber vs Sakura. Erased pic is basically a meme that gets you 500 replies everytime by self-inserter.

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This is gonna be the first Shonen Jump homo ship to be canon

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Griffith did everything wrong and he deserve eternal suffering but I still like it as a tragic love story

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Donovan x Guts is my homo OTP

Sometimes fujos ship /u/ couples just to take the girls out of the equation. After S1 ended strongly implying a Sorey/Alisha end, the staff had to go full pandering

There are still butthurt posts on Yea Forums in 2019 over Bleach and Naruto pairings after they're married with children.

What about narusasu?

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>not Gon/Killua

>Sometimes fujos ship /u/ couples just to take the girls out of the equation.
Fujos are huge /u/ shippers in general. The whole "Fujo hate women" is basically from people who never browsed pixiv or anything. For example they made Estelle/Rita popular in Tales of.

They are significantly different from men /u/ fags though.

To be fair, most western fujos don't post on Yea Forums. They're in tumblr(RIP) and twitter. user have to go there to see any outrage.

lolno, fujos can be some of the biggest passive-aggressive whiners you can find. And lots of them think that a straight ending is someone's way to be "homophobic".

Really liked the evolution of their relationship.

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Naruto's end must be super homophobic. See

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Based and mikaipilled

has there been any anime where it was a threeway ending? like 2 girls and 1 guy or vice versa

I don't go to tumblr or twitter, but I've seen people bitch about "hetshit" a million times on Yea Forums. The crazy ones have spread here years ago.

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Chiya x Omi

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I mean, if they do, they still beat people who bitch about gayshit 1:100. And honestly it's mostly /u/fags, especially given these days fujo tend to congregate around franchises aiming to them or with an entire male cast (Swords, YoI, Sport animes, etc)

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>YoI and Tigay and bunny are famous homo pairings in recent years that are pretty versatile.

Not really, the doujinka still stick whoever they want as the seme/uke.

Is it gay i it's futa?

How this picture came to be is actually really hilarious, I don't know if what I'm gonna tell you is accurate or not but what I read was something like this,

''Artist I want you to make a story about how Maria and Tsubasa got undercovers naked

Okay, so they were on the street and it started, they got wet and rented a hotel room, since they were wet they took off their clothes and the telephone rang so they both looked at it''

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>/u/fags bitch and moan about "male characters"
>go into series with heterosexual pairings and love triangles to force crack yuri ships
I don't get it, if you hate something... why suffer through it only to get disappointed?

Yeah, but the body type don't scream seme/uke. Heck, YoI literally had a turn around.
No, futa, like traps, are a straight fetish.

Furuichi won the Oga bowl fair and square, he just doesn't know it.

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>Yeah, but the body type don't scream seme/uke. Heck, YoI literally had a turn around.
You must be blind to the other doujins from other sportshit anime like KNB for example.

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>anti-yurifags bitch and moan about "/u/fags"
>go into thread with homo pairings to force shitposts
I don't get it, if you hate something... why suffer through it only to get disappointed?

Greatest love story never told.

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Not it happens on often specially on twitter. Fujos/yurifags like to call any semblance of romance between the opposite sex as forced romance or "hetshit".

Ukes are chicks with dicks. The yaoi hole is a fully functional vagina.

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Who are you quoting?

Scissor Sisters.

>Yeah, but the body type don't scream seme/uke.
Which has nothing to do with fans switching or not the couples. Fujos will ship anything, including stuff not intended to be shipped so there are tons of couples that don't scream anything.
I mean, look at Osomatsu-san.

As if their non canon homo pairings aren't forced too. Fujos like to say they can ship two guys that barely interact or just stood next to each other once.

>. Fujos will ship anything, including stuff not intended to be shipped so there are tons of couples that don't scream anything.
This isn't just fujos. Check BnHA or SnK

>Check BnHA
All the fujoships have nothing going on.
SnK
Eren/Manlet is the most forced shit.

>Fujos will ship anything, including stuff not intended to be shipped
Y-yeah.

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YOU FOOL
YOU'VE DOOMED US ALL

Can we just purge SnK off the board?

>Check BnHA or SnK
But those are popular with fujoshits.

I never said only fujos do that.

>All the fujoships have nothing going on.
As opposed to what? Todoroki and that one chick? Erin and Miro? Bakugou and Ochako?

>Eren/Manlet is the most forced shit.
Is it even a thing in those threads? 90% of the time I open these thread is people shipping the lesbian queen with Eren vs Mikasa vs Eren.

It's plainly obvious what their reasoning is. All heterosexual pairing are illegitimate in their eyes.

Neverland will end years before HunterxHunter, user

>Is it even a thing in those threads? 90% of the time I open these thread is people shipping the lesbian queen with Eren vs Mikasa vs Eren.
Yea Forums is only one part of the internet. Make it clear if you just talking about Yea Forums or the entire fanbase. Anons are obviously talking about the overall fanbase and Eren/manlet is very popular.

Except most of the popular pairings are the ones between friends with good chemistry. Thats when hetfags get defensive and say muh male friendship then proceed to ship them with girls they’ve barely interacted with. You do know that shounen shows have a lot of fujos because the males have better chemistry with each other than the chicks right?

What you mean? Naruto and Sasuke are a happily married couple with children

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Yeah but trying to blame fujos who are barely talking about it when it's heteroshippers turning the threads into battlegrounds is dumb

Eren/manlet's popularity proves you wrong.

This is some pretty big projecting.

exceptions are exceptions?

Few examples out of many do not prove me wrong.

But is the most recent literally nothing fujopairing with barely any interaction.

Who gave birth?

How many times do we have to go over this, OP? It's homOTP.

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I agree, it's even more shit than Levi X Eren.

The fujos were bullied out of Yea Forums ages ago.

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Please pick one its either, muh fujos hate male platonic bonds or muh fujos just ship two dudes standing next to each other.

That's a problem greater than anime and even greater than Japan though. Asian men in general see women as such inferior beings at every level that they can't conceive the idea of having a meaningful relationship with them. They can respect women and feel attracted to them but the real bonds can only born between men. That's why Asia idealize male friendship so much even above romantic love. Women know it and repeat the same pattern in their own stories (shoujo is extremely conservative) but they go a little further with the male bonding

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>muh fujos just ship two dudes standing next to each other.
It's pretty much this.

You wish

I just checked, they're still there. Issue might be on your end.

Cringe thread

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The literally nothing one proves that fujos will eat any shit.

Cute and canon

Few examples don’t disprove my inital point retard, otherwise I wouldn’t have to keep hearing about platonic bonds or some other bullshit.

Why do they have the same exact face here?

>Hair down Alicia
HELL YEAH MOTHERFUCKER

Womb donors

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Sayaka is het and dead

Somehow they show up immediately whenever a big fujoshit series starts.

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Fujo even ship those without any bonds to speak of.

Are you still shipping Eren with the manlet even now?

So is spaghetti until it gets wet and gains sentience

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Its more common to ship friends or enemies together, just because some popular fujo ships were born out of two guys just being in the near vincinity of each other doesn’t erase the history of homo ships. See

So, Japan is based and redpilled?

It's a Confucian thing.

They watch it for the "plot".

It's honestly a combination of romance also being garbage or absent. Look at Naruto, he married a chick that barely was a character. BnHA has the same problem, Deku is going to marry Ochako, but she's barely relevant. It's very hard to find meaningful romance that develops through the course of a story.

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Nagai has some great homo pairings

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And that's the reason why I'm reading Chinese BL webnovels.

These fags introduced the homolust in mecha and introduced a generation of teen girls into gay shipping

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An /m/ oldtimer on Yea Forums, I see.

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The discussion for this series died immediately when the show ended. I'll be surprised if it ever gets a second season.

It was dull and barely anyone cared when it aired either.

Man you people are ungrateful, I'd cream my pants for 12 episodes of yuri pandering by Kyoani.

I want to bully this chestlet

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>The discussion for this series died immediately when the show ended. I'll be surprised if it ever gets a second season.
It's sad, but it happens with many shows on Yea Forums. it has more of a fanbase than Kaze, amazingly.

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And there are many fujoships of characters without much interaction or relevance.

Tsurune wasn't good pandering, the novel was gayer. Also the characters look like fucking ayy lmao, Kyoani can't draw cute young boys anymore.

Mom and child.

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based

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Is this show any good?

They have better relevance and chemistry than the ones forcibly paired with female characters that are barely even characters. Maybe if shonenshit writers knew how to write girls in the first place this wouldn't be an issue.

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Nanofate is the best OTP
Kirito and Eugeo were really cute together

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Hahahaha

Mako is for Gamagori

Tsurune's problem was that it was fucking boring. I actually liked how subtle the gayness was in the anime adaptation, because the novel was like the ramblings of a horny fanfic writer. Those lines about Ren still crack me up.

>barely was a character
>barely relevant
So top off with barely any interaction.

You could watch the first 2-4 episodes, if you don't like them you won't like the rest of the show at all. It simply doesn't play as what people would expected of the premise (probably in a bad way). I enjoyed it though.

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You keep acting like fujos are above other when they're pretty much the same as any other delusional shippers.

What even happened to this? Does anyone still read it?

It's shipping, there's no harm in liking to imagine two characters together because "it's hot" but when it's a canon couple that supposedly love each but you can't even convey something so simple that's another story.

Few out of many doesn't erase the common issue that shounenshit writers have, and it's always female characters being there to just be wombs or waifu material for the guys.

Unrequited but there you have it

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Nothing happens.Blood sucking scene was probably the most this manga will offer in term of fun.

kek all shippers of non-canon pairing are delusional.

I thought these two were straight and wanted sorey

>I thought these two were straight and wanted sorey
Where have you been?

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name?

To be fair, "canon" is sorta vague, especially when it comes to homo pairing that some people can't accept.

Shipping is just for fun most of the time. As long as shippers have some self-awareness it's fine.

They don't understand that female characters are written terribly and that males often have better chemistry with each other.

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What did he mean by this

They are canon

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You should read/watch better manga/anime.

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Yes

Which homo will get HET'd first?

Letting your cat eat cake is unhealthy.

Sauce?

It wasn't a question.

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>that picture

Okay it made me smile

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>OTP
>not OT3

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>12 episodes of yuri pandering by Kyoani.
>what is Hibike

Hibike betrayed yurifags.

These two idiots

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>OT3

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Not really comparable since (I'm guessing) the Tsurune novels have no hetero romance

Me x my left hand

I'm a fujo but this is true ai

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in a pit of depression. You?
Well, at least they got each other, the last thing I remember was them rolling around on a cabin floor during a slap fight for some reason

But is it homo?

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Setsuna and Altair.

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Hibike is much more gayer than Tsurune, even with hetshit.

What's the point since the hetero romance invalidates all the gay stuff, utterly pointless I tell you.

Guys have two balls and they sometimes touch...

>Hibike is much more gayer than Tsurune, even with hetshit.
You are underestimating how gay Tsurune is. The first time Masa meets Minato, he pretty much offers him a quickie. More so, there isn't even a hetero romance in sight, it's quite obvious the author a fujo shipping the guys.

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Will we ever get another mainstream anime where every important male character is an effeminate twink

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Seriously where are the mods

Posting in the thread right now.

Jojo is airing right now.

It's an anime and manga thread. No less relevant than "characters who had x" or "character famous for their butts."

>jojo
>twinks

>mods
>using Yea Forums

A*K isn't here.

Yuri on Ice?

Well I'm talking about anime, and kyoanus hates adapting male gayshit. Hibike has more fanservice for yurifags than Free has for fujos.

>Well I'm talking about anime, and kyoanus hates adapting male gayshit
Why would you think that? Especially given how many women are in their staff.

Based. The few porn of these 3 togetehr is so fucking hot

victor is too old and muscular, yuuri is just average and sorta fat. i'd say yurio is the only one that really fits the description of an anime twink.

How do you even measure how much more one series panders than the other? Especially when fujos and /u/fags don't necessarily want the same things. Freefags seem pretty damn satisfied even with all the "lack of pandering", since even the last season sold decently and the characters keep getting doujins. Do Hibike girls get as many doujins as Free boys do?

Yuuri has mochi cheeks, he's not fat (anymore), he just gains weight more easily than other people.

>Why would you think that?
Just look at their adaptation of Tsurune, it's bland as fuck. Almost all gay scenes from the novel were cut.

Maybe you should blame NHK, not the studio.

Why? NHK isn't on the community, Kyoani/Pony Canyon paid to broadcast it on NHK.

>too old
>average and sorta fat
Rude.

If Jojo was drawn by CLAMP they'd all be twinks. The only reason Geass mains were twinks was thanks to the character designers.
You just have to wait for noodle men to come back in as a trend.

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It still airs on NHK though.

>the terrible gay scenes were cut and replaced by better ones
FIFY
Tsurune might not have been the best written anime of the decade but I will forever defend the changes. The novel is abysmally bad and I'm still surprised they could make a comfy show out of it.

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I wish CLAMP did LelouchxSuzaku doujinshis

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So pay to air the show on the usual channels instead of NHK.

>The novel is abysmally bad
Why is that?

>Freefags seem pretty damn satisfied even with all the "lack of pandering"
Kek just look at the reviews at the nip amazon for the blu-rays. A lot of nips hate this season and the fanbase is literally dead.
>even the last season sold decently
Last BD sold 6k, it's worse than Hibike at this point.
>characters keep getting doujins
They don't. No one cares about Free anymore, and lot of doujinkas dropped it after S3. You're retarded.

They cut most of the masa/minato fun-times.

Also V2 is the volume that gets very gay too.

Maybe NHK gets more viewers and they wanted a larger audience?

>Last BD sold 6k, it's worse than Hibike at this point.
It's only natural for a third season.

That makes it Kyoani/Pony Canyon's decision not NHK's if they could have those gay scenes on a cable channel.

They probably wanted to make a hit for normalfags on NHK using Kyuudo or something.

No idea what Kyoani was thinking because anyone but some cluless user could tell this only shot at success was fujoshi desperate for some hot gay in another sport series.

Isn't the second novel even more gay? I wonder if KyoAni could even turn it into anything watchable. And yes, if there's one thing that was good about the anime then it's how the homo scenes turned out. Over-the-top stuff just wouldn't fit a slow anime about archery.

Tales isn't exactly good with heroine faces these days.

>Maybe NHK gets more viewers and they wanted a larger audience?
NHK is a dead station that only grandmothers watch.

>Last BD sold 6k, it's worse than Hibike at this point.
>6k
>Third season
>Bad
What? It's pretty impressive for a phoned-in sequel. It sold better than 90% of anime nowadays.

6k is pretty good by today's standards, especially since so many didn't like the latest season.

Open a thread to talk about your kyoani shit.

>late night anime
>normalfags
You know it airs at midnight on Sundays right? No normalfag would give a fuck if they were the audience they had in mind.

>lot of doujinkas dropped it after S3
After S2 you mean, HS killed it.

God that thread was a shitfest

Any stats?

Ensemble stars is next season

They should've make it more homo for the grannies, they grew up with Kazeki and Heart of Thomas

>masa protecting minato from a truck
>"if you die, i'll kill myself"

>"fun times"
You have bad taste.

See above. Add to that Boy1 protecting Boy2 from a boar. A fucking boar.

Reminds me how that franchise for little girl made a bunch of movie about homo idols.

Don't know, didn't read the 2nd, the series only adapted the first novel.
I don't think it would be too hard to adapt it into something mainstream even if it's quite gay. Not that we'll ever know though.

Bungou Stray Dogs is full of skinny twinks. It's pretty mainstream in Japan, though in the West everybody dropped it after the weak s1.

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You may have thought that.

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almost canon, they are so homo.

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>How do you even measure how much more one series panders than the other
Show me 1 (one) thing from Kyoani with male gayshit like this. You can't.

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Yeah, but the anime is shit too. At least the novel is gay.

Girls like drawing girls. Also they kicked out their local fujoshi utsumi but she’d have messed it up in her own way anyway

The characters in your pictures have canon male love interest.

Free had pretty heavy homobait art too, especially season 1 and 2

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Wtf is supposed to be gay about that? Sitting close to each other is gay now? Free is way gayer just for having such flamboyant EDs and for that one mouth-to-mouth resuscitation scene. I bet it fueled a thousand fanfics with just that one scene.

>Girls like drawing girls.
They also like drawing boys. A lot of fujo like Yuri too.

>comparing pandering
>comparing magazine spreads that are not even drawn by the studios
What are you doing?

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I agree, the novels are pretty shit, the anime was better. I'd be curious to see Kyoani improve the second volume too... But oh well...

>All this Tsurune talk
What did you guys think of the other sport anime airing the same season?

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I heard it wasn't gay and the boys sucked so I didn't watch it.

To think I expected Tsurune to get at least one of those spreads. Fucking Kyoani really didn't know what they wanted from it.

And?
Not even close.
>Sitting close to each other is gay now?
When it's like this, yes.

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It got progressively gayer stating with Ep 10 until it reached peak kino homo with the last ep.

>boys sucked so I didn't watch it.
What didn't you like?

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They are meant to promote the show, duh. Don't use Mista pics if you're planning to go full retard.

I didn't think it was possible but the ending of Kaze was way gayer than anything in tsurune, also they're not teenagers and Haiji/Kakeru is a great ship.

The boys are great, wtf.

Post the webm at least.

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>And?
It's all cheap talk. Literally bait and switch. People can talk about Free and its bait, but at least it's very devoted to it, even if the ships aren't confirmed is also true there is nothing in the way. It's a product that pandering to fujo.

Also girls naturally act closer than guys.

Sleeping on each other is gay? Did you even watch Free?

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>homo constellation
I miss this dumb show so much

Fuck I hate these two retards and season 3 so much it's hurts. Fuck Kyoani.

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Let's stop this silly war about who gets more gay points by Kyoani in mag art and such (pic is an end card though), both shows are blatant bait for the categories of fujos and yurifags.

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how come homo seems more natural in anime/manga than it does for western cartoons/comics? for example the latter it seems really forced

Example of forced?

My blasphemous simian friends

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The anime is only worth watching because of these two.

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I think it boils down to neither the US nor Europe having a BL culture.

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Western comics and TV shows tend to show characters dating more (or at least getting together), which is when all the tension and ambiguity is gone. Of course seeing characters in a relationship can be done well, but hardly as the main focus of the series. I like it more when side characters are paired up and the MCs struggle to find love.

Westerners only do it because it's le current year

because in the west they add gay stuff to get "representation" and "diversity" points

second best ship of 2018

Because weaboo then to mystify Japanese writers.

Like Japanese writers can't be political. Go read some CLAMP interviews. Even just Syaoran/Sakura is a "political" couple written on purpose.

Better writing.

>Even just Syaoran/Sakura is a "political" couple written on purpose.
Explain

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I actually loathe this and the thought of even having this be something crossing my mind when I write shit. I just want to write what I like and go the natural course characters take themselves, but then I see conversations pertaining to things about how '"oh this really doesn't do gay people justice" or "that's immoral for them to like one another" It's fiction fuck off, even if you appease one side you get the whole it feels too shoehorned in, all you can do at the end of the day is go about it the way you want and watch a wildfire spread if it does

>Syaoran/Sakura is a "political" couple
Excuse me?

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This baffles me as well.

Because it is. Most of the time in anime and specially manga it's done because the author wants to and likes it, while in the west a lot of shit is done just to appeal to the audience or follow trends.

>Westerners bad
>Japanese good

>Canon homo bad
>Bait good
Cucks

Another reason why I switched to Chinese BL webnovels.

Yeah in Western stuff there's always something that feels "calculated", like as if there was a bunch of research and surveys done for every comic to make sure that they pander to as many people as possible. Meanwhile Japanese mangaka and authors just write about their fetishes and wet dreams and it somehow works so much better.

There's a difference between telling a politically charged story and hamfisting it in a way that only annoys everyone who doesn't already agree with you. You need subtlety and skill, which Clamp has and many Westerners don't.

They intentionally wrote Syaoran as a foreign. China-Japan rivalry is huge.

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>>Westerners bad
>>Japanese good
Correct

You're missing the point in the 2nd part.

Because Yea Forums shit forces gay where it doesn't belong instead of simply pandering to people that want gay like nips do.

lol that's nothing. I expected it to be something like a Tienanmen Square reference etc.

>Because it is. Most of the time in anime and specially manga it's done because the author wants to and likes it, while in the west a lot of shit is done just to appeal to the audience or follow trends.
You are kidding, right?

Japanese literally has a bunch of genres that feel mass produced based on the latest trends.
More so, Japanese writers have to deal with editors, producers and shit. Heck, YoI was still censored to this day.

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I dont get it either.
It's always been about not turning lgbt into a fetish, but isnt that what shoving representation everywhere is? I am a gay myself and confused.

They keep to their audience though, I think thats the difference.

Based

Rin pleases Luvia for money.

Steven universe tried to do that and it is shit.

>There's a difference between telling a politically charged story and hamfisting it in a way that only annoys everyone who doesn't already agree with you. You need subtlety and skill, which Clamp has and many Westerners don't.
CLAMP does, a lot of Japanese writers don't. JRPG in particular for example are famous for their ham-fisted political commentaries that everyone swallows without second thought. Heck, Nier was literally based on 9/11.

There are also a lot of really good western writers too of course. Ultimately 90% of everything is shit.

>Japanese literally has a bunch of genres that feel mass produced based on the latest trends
You mean idolshit?

I think it's partially because nips have a long history of seeing gay where the creator didn't intend to be gay. The average Western comic reader isn't used to shipping characters, so they need to have it all on a platter as unsubtly as possible or it goes unnoticed.

>representation is a fetish now

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No, I mean fucking Isekai, a genre so shitty that at this point I'm not sure why it isn't written by AI.

wheres the line between the two?

>it isn't written by AI
SOON

In Japan and everywhere, but it's still much better than in the west, plus I was talking about canon homo, which is practically inexistent in shows that just want to pander.
And even if it's just bait lots of them are still writing what they like instead of forcing themselves in a genre/fetish they don't give a fuck.

In your asshole

I know you feel horny for but this is an impossible love, so just give up.

>The average Western comic reader isn't used to shipping characters
This is wrong.

>And even if it's just bait lots of them are still writing what they like instead of forcing themselves in a genre/fetish they don't give a fuck.
What do you even mean? Most of the times gay characters in western shows are just one or two. Everyone else is still straight.

I guess that's precisely why it feels forced, because western authors just need to fill a quota

Thanks, this is interesting.

More like nips have a long story of having manga that panders to all kind of demographics, instead of being just capeshit.
If you want to write a gay romance in japan you don't need to hijack already existing stories and characters that were historically aimed only at little boys. You have entire magazines exclusively dedicated to gay shit.

Would you prefer a gay harem instead?

Yes

So what? They are still forcing themselves to write something they don't want and thus don't know how to do it because they are forced to shove a character that screams representation and diversity.
Just change "genre/fetish" for anything you want.

Same.

Who wouldn't

>If you want to write a gay romance in japan you don't need to hijack already existing stories and characters that were historically aimed only at little boys
well fujos and adult men are mostly the buyers of shounen manga nowadays. especially fujo with all the marketing that's done like baity art or merch.

Of course

It's the same for some shounen mangaka who are forced by editors to introduce a 'heroine'/love interest, even though they have little idea how to flesh her out as a character.

The fetish treatment is about deliberately portraying homosexuality in an appealing way to turn you on or get you invested emotionally. Or both.
Representation is just inserting a gay character in the cast.

>They are still forcing themselves to write something they don't want
Citation: My ass

The worst is when I read western gay books and there's a huge sideplot straight romance.

Yeah. That's my point.

Wholesome sisterly love

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Stories featuring harem of girls with different hair color and personalities to fill a fetish or king Arthur being a girl are forced, but not many people complain.

Beside, your complain is a generalization. Take books for example, a lot YA are written by women who enjoy putting gay stuff in their works. Straight dudes are notoriously obsessed with lesbians, do you think they really mind writing lesbian actions?

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What if I'm turned on by all homo representations in media? Checkmate.

Regardless of what you think of their quality, you can denny that its fans are trully passionate about it. Most idol/isekaishit is filled to the brim with their creator's tastes and hobbies.
It is not just soullessly chasing trends.

Little sisters (not blood related!) are passe, slave girls is where it's at in AD 2019.

>you can denny that its fans are trully passionate about it.
That's may be the most sad thing about it.

Sure but thats on the readers, not the author. At least for the most part.
Shounen mangaka don't go out of their way to make their characters gay.

Is Card Captor Sakura really homo? Because the whole shota-loli is shit.

>also they're not teenagers and Haiji/Kakeru is a great ship
Yeah, it's super comfy and it has a very natural evolution. It's something you rarely see in sport anime, usually it's over-emotional stuff form day one.

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>isekai
>not just soullessly chasing trends
Ayy

>Is Card Captor Sakura really homo? Because the whole shota-loli is shit.
Yes. Also what do you mean?

>Shounen mangaka don't go out of their way to make their characters gay.
Have you read some shounen?

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It's not gay if he has moon magic

I'm not generalizing, I'm just saying that's how I feel about mainstream western media.

>Stories featuring harem of girls with different hair color and personalities to fill a fetish or king Arthur being a girl are forced
And a manga where every dude is gay is too, but my point is whoever wrote that, as crap as it is, wanted to do it.

I just wanted to say you should write what you want and not write what you don't want.
Fuck this, missed fireworks because of this discussion

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Don't get ahead of yourself!

To be fair, those are usually completelly irrelevant to the plot.
A bad romantic subplot only drags down a shounen manga if your waifu doesn't end up married to the MC.

In the beginning I was actually thinking it would be such a shame not to pander to the ship because it seemed to have a lot of potential, I was glad to be proven wrong in the end, the slow build up was worth it.

Yukito and Touya are legit homos, though. Heck, their love was strong it broke Clow's magic, Yukito was originally meant for Sakura.

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It's not about what you feel, it's about what the guy who made the work you're consuming was trying to do.
youtube.com/watch?v=tL8Km2pCEPI

Just because it has shirtless dudes staring at eachother it doesn't mean it is gay.

The director and writer had both dudes, which is a surprise. They even pretty much removed any trace of Kakeru's interest in Hana and made her only interest in the twins.

Very funny and original, user

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Sexual tension.

Pretty sure the original novel author is a self proclaimed fujo, but she held back in her novel, the anime went ahead in her desired direction probably.

Might I ask you go back and read your post again?
Do you still stand by it?

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>Just because it has shirtless dudes staring at eachother it doesn't mean it is gay.
Do you think some shounen writers aren't fujo and enjoy putting homoeroticism in their work (And even more if they could)? (Or simply find gay characters interesting, I.E. Togashi)

Sure, I'll give you that the "Homo" in stuff like Naruto, BnAH, etc is completely accidental. But take stuff like Seraph of the End for example. Shoukoku no Altair (that features multiple gay characters). Togashi stuff, etc.

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Yeah, but it's not she had anything to do with the anime. A lot of works who are originally gay get toned down for the anime.

yes

Then it is not really forced pandering, they are actually writting gay shit because they want to.

>Then it is not really forced pandering, they are actually writting gay shit because they want to.
How do you know someone is forced to write gay stuff or not? Are you a mind reader?

How have they not been posted yet?

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>BnAH
>homo
Disgusting.

This For instance Isayama knew exactly what he was doing when he designed Levi. He said he had a "yaoi fangirl" inside him even, and that he knew when he was done designing the manlet that he had something fujos would like.

Cause the thread stopped being about OTPs a while ago

Can you read?

Because there is a difference beetween an author indulging in their tastes and an author doing something because he has to.

I haven't read the novel but the spoilers I saw said Kakeru gets over his crush on Hana pretty quickly and is still infatuated with Haiji and that she likes the twins. I can see why the anime just removed that part if it really went down like that, it's not like the crush was useful for Kakeru's development either.

No work is the result of a single vision. Unless you are so powerful that you can tell your editors, producers, etc to fuck off, but I can only think of few authors powerful enough to do this.

No need to, this is everyone's OTP whether they like it or not

And those authors are generally novelists and not comic book/movie/videogame creators. If your work has dozens or even hundreds of people contributing to it, you will have to compromise.

It is not about that. It is not hard to tell when an author is having fun with their work. Be it using their favourite characters or featuring their personal fetish, you can tell when they are enjoying themselves.

Illya had a proper Christian education

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Good tastes.

Anime never ;_;

>, you can tell when they are enjoying themselves.
What? How are you supposed to tell? I've heard of author using characters they absolutely despite only for the sake of the plot and authors with a tragedy boner killing their favorites for the drama.

Don't lose hope user. It's a shonen with fujo pandering, it has a pretty solid chance of getting an adaptation some day.
Speaking of which, what happened to that poll where we voted for the anime adaptation we'd like to see a while ago?

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1 Im - Great Priest Imhotep
2 Tasuu Ketsu
3 Gunjou ni Siren
4 Shoboshobo Man
5 Jibaku Shounen Hanako-kun
6 Uramichi Oniisan
7 Meitantei Conan Zero no Tea Time
8 Satsukare
9 Kusuriya no Hitorigoto
10 Nishikida Keibu wa Dorobou ga Osuki

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Homosexuality is pretty natural. Japan was always very openly gay.

Shut the fuck up about politics and post some gay girls

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I'm surprised no one posted it

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Thanks user. Sucks for Birdmen though.

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I could have, I forgot.

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Kotori is for Umi and for me.

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I wish I had a rival

Saint-juste is literally a man

Gay lolis are the best lolis

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>Saint-juste is literally Oscar's knockoff
ftfy

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I'm just a simple JUSTICE user
No homo tho

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Koyori is such a disgrace, but the angel Kanon is manages to make it so cute and funny and gay. Nonetheless, these two are even better.

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Those two are super confirmed straight. Delete this.

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What the fuck was his problem

>Accidentally wrote the most realistic and natural gay relationship of all anime
>N-no homo

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Akanesasu will always be based for actually giving us a kiss

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Man this was anime was too good, if we had one Akanesasu per season I'd be happy forever

It deserved so much better

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Nothing, he's /ourguy/

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Japan has shit taste

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It's perfectly watchable, it's just mediocre with no real interesting qualities.
I basically only watched it for Selesia and Sharkteeth.

ACE and her girlfriend.

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Cancelled ACE

ACE and her girlfriend just wanted some privacy while they conquer the ping pong world.

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Me x my husbando

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By what? Non-god Akane being a slut?

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>Not pairing people with their devices. For shame.

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pure

The one that they keep coming back to.

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But Subaru's device is a male and this is a homo thread

Fate's is male, Mach Calibur is feminine.

Oh, I thought it was male for some reason

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Nips are pretty big anti-gaijin sentiments especially if that person is Chinese. So to have a mainstream popular magical girl franchise for young children that has the main female (whose technically not fully Japanese) get with a gaijin who isn't shown as a stereotype is pretty ballsy.

Pretty much. It would be like a major female character get with a black dude during the course of the story.

Can you imagine /pol/ reaction?

I've never seen /pol/ talk shit about Tenjou Tenge.

I'm talking about 3d stuff. Not obscure manga.

>3d
>Cardcaptor Sakura
?

the goat.

>Alisha

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>hugging lesbians
Maybe Saint-Juste but Nanako was straight. That's why she ended alive

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My favorite yaoi couple.

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>ctrl+f
>not soushi/kazuki

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Seriously, can you even imagine your whole fucking life revolving around "one" person, and trying to "troll" that "one" person over Yea Forums.
How does someone realize this and not kill themselves.

Seriously, can you even imagine your whole fucking life revolving around "one" person, and trying to "troll" that "one" person over Yea Forums.
How does someone realize this and not kill themselves.

Gay

Japan does it because of fetish
Westernshit does it because of social agenda
1 is fun, 1 isn't.

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What did Phoenix mean by this?

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My 'eternal immortality' level OTP.
Good taste friend.

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No, they just don't post screaming 'I ship A x B' every single time they post; they discuss stuff too, but no one can tell its them unless they post males instead of the girls from the show they are discussing. There are exceptions that only discuss shipping of course, but it is the same for straight shippers too.

I watch it for fun characters and entertaining plot; getting "plot" is a very nice bonus.

>The year of our Lord 2019
>Not a single scanned doujinshi

At least they get tons of nice fanart.

based

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People here really have a problem with girls enjoying things. Hilarious.

Nice pairing

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Fetishism is a disease. Most fujos should be gased.

Why can't fujos handle banter?

>pic
They are good too

patrician

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These two series are mostly plagued by fujos though.

my brother

Kek, if only.

Chisato/Kanon is a much better crackship user.

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Oh my, chapter 14 at last.