Thoughts on Devilman?

Fucking awful.

I like devilman lady's ova.

Sorry to hear that, user. Was he a Nagai fan as well?

Because of that I became totally alone. He was my only family.

Original manga is great and I enjoyed Crybaby too, Yuasa is a great director and you could really tell he poured his all into it.
The OVA's are great as well.

I finally read it when crybaby was the talk of the town and I adored it, legitimately a great read from start to finish. Never watched crybaby though.

it's really dumb

>Never watched crybaby though.
Good. Keep it that way.

You did good.

Good. If Ryo was your favorite character, avoid it like the plague.

Unironically the best manga.

Fpbp

Shit-tier fans.

>Shit-tier fans.
At least we're not as shit as Yuasafags who don't even like the source material but just fellate themselves over Yuasa's pretentiousness and ugly "style".

>Armageddon
Crybaby > Manga
>Selene + Kaimu
Crybaby > Manga
>Selene
OVA > Manga > Crybaby
>Jinmen
OVA > Crybaby (but Jinmen looks like shit) > Manga
>Everything else:
Manga

Crybaby missed the point on so many parts. In the manga, the demons don't even fucking do anything through the whole last third, humanity just wipes itself out.

youtu.be/eo3YVdfsyx8

You're a retard if you think this page can be compared to the dumb HxH page that everyone shits on. This page works in favor of the plot and symbolizes the chaos and confusion on the human side. It's not just a page without drawings out of nowhere.

Devilman is trash too btw.

Devilman? More like Gayman

It's a George Lucas type shit, just read it online

That was pretty cool

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>arab fundamentalists
did the retard writer mean "islamic fundamentalists"? Arab isn't a religion.

Probably haven't read any good manga then.

Name one that's better.

edgy shit

devil may cry

Ten, Berserk, Spirit Circle, Muv Luv Alternative (there's a VN), YKK

Berserk, Hunter x Hunter, OPM

Go fuck yourself. If Crybaby was made by anyone but Yuasa no one would defend a work that had the character assassination of the second most important character of a franchise.

Second best manga ever made, it's a shame it's dismissed as being edgy shit by fucking tards.

Pure schlock, but the original has a sort of charm to it.

They also missed the whole point that Ryo wanted to save demonkind against a vengeful being that felt they had no reason to exist. And in the last moments he realized he did the same thing his father did to humanity.

This is a story about the cycle of hate, fear, and war. And the ending cemented that especially with Ryo's last words of apologizing for his actions. Crybaby forgot what the fuck this simplistic ass story is about,

>Akira thinking about the worth of the humanity
Fuck i hate yuasa, that moment is legendary and he eliminated it

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Hell Akira gave up on humanity and only cared about the Devilmen in the end. It wasn't the fucking demons that killed Miki, it was humans that believed Ryo's bullshit.

>Crybaby forgot
Crybaby/Yuasa didn't "forget", it ignored the manga's themes deliberately and instead chose to hamfist in some "social issues" and teen drama. Because, apparently, that's what really matters today.
Reddit-bait, basically.

I know. The whole point of this shitfest was about hope and love (basically Obama bullshit) as seen by Ryo learning to love at the end.
What trash. Ryo was unlikable in this mess.

Which is hilarious because Nagai's fears about the escalation of nuclear holocaust is as real as it was before thanks to those same reddit morons.

You realize he's gonna add artwork to that page for the volume release, right?

That doesn't stop it from being shit right now.

>the virgin amon vs THE CHAD AKIRA

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I like the manga's emotional Ryo better than sociopath Ryo in Crybaby

literally yuasa said he did not understand devilman in an interview

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That would explain a lot

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>Muv Luv, Spirit Circle, HxH, OPM
Ayy lmao.
>Berserk
If it ever finishes, maybe.

Berserk is far from being one of the best in this list, especially considering the latest arcs. Also, Muv Luv does everything that Devilman tries to do but better, including politics and scary otherworld enemy.

Why do people hate Crybaby again? I read the original manga and it was SHIT. Crybaby even did a lot of scenes objectively better.

>It will be to late
>a basic spelling error in some obscure manga
>Manga can't draw or spell
Looks like I'll pass on this one.

youtube.com/watch?v=gRRum5aPqAw

Muv Luv is garbage. Generic harem trash with some edge thrown in is not good.

explain or get the fuck out here yuasafag

Is this shitty meme video supposed to be an argument? Still doesn't change the fact that MLA does everything Devilman did a lot better

Nausicaa, Ashita no Joe, Versailles no Bara, Yotsuba&, Fullmetal Alchemist, PlanetES, Kiseijuu, Sangatsu no Lion, Mob Psycho 100, Vinland Saga, Ping Pong, Saikyou Densetsu Kurosawa, Mushishi.

>I read the original manga and it was SHIT.
That's one of the reasons why people hate Crybaby.
Its fandom is one of the reasons why people hate Crybaby.
YOU are one of the reasons why people hate Crybaby.
Hope you're proud of yourself and the way you portray yourself.

>e-celeb cancer
The absolute state of Devilmanfags.

>some obscure manga
There would not be half of the manga there are today if it wasn't for Devilman you fucking newfag.

>>>/animefeminist/
>>>/ANN/
>>>/tumblr/

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>supposed to be an argument
Yes, you literally can't counter anything said in the video because they're objectively true. MLA is just Elfen-Lied pretentiousness with edge.

>no argument
>just name-calling
lol

Why did you have to post the retarded e-celeb faggot? Your post would have been right without of it.

What are those rock solid arguments then, brainlet?

6/10

MLE is the harem, MLA is the apocalyptic political war drama Devilman wishes it could be.

But Devilman isn't a political war drama?

I'm telling you that your shitty behaviour makes people who are neutral towards Crybaby start to hate it.
And what's your reaction? Even more shitty behaviour! You seriously need to pause and reflect, mate. You are doing yourself a disservice here.

Watch it and counter anything he says. Oh wait you won't coward. Your chuuni shit is bad even by VN standards.

>political war drama
With the most shallow """politics""" ever. And it's still the same harem shit, just with more battles. People die, time reset, there's no good writing anywhere. There's not a single interesting character, not a single subplot, not a single thing that wasn't shit. B-B-BUT MARIMO SHOCK VALUE! You fags are the same ones who liked Erased and Madoka. Shows with no consequences and forced drama but rely on fee fees.

I've already seen this shitty video a few years ago and I remember it being full of shit. But more importantly if you can't sum up at least part of the arguments yourself then you've lost the debate before it even started. Either speak for yourself or fuck off like the brainlet you are.

> The whole point of this shitfest was about hope and love (basically Obama bullshit)
Please tell me you're baiting. I refuse to believe anyone is this stupid.

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It's funny you think otherwise. I'm not sure whether you are delusional or retarded. Possibly both.

That picture you poasted is rather damning. I've never before seen Nagai look so "unimpressed". He's usually smiling and very engaged. In that pic, he just sits there stoically next to Yuasa.

As a contrast, here's him with Tezuka Osamu's son for a similar interview, back when he made the Enma/Dororo crossover. He's usually so positive about everything, especially things he is personally involved in, and he seems to connect with practically everyone.
Why do we see nothing of that between him and Yuasa?

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Not that user but he picked the wrong term probably for his /pol/-infected mind, nevertheless he was right at pointing out a trend of promoting hope and love by banning negativity. I think it's the current corporative world that want submissive masses that don't challenge the system so everything must be full of HOPE like the MCU, the greatest triumph of the machine over creativity. People must heard that the system work, there's nothing inherently wrong with the system and we live in the best world possible thanks to capitalism. We're in a position similar to 80s USSR, it's all a big pantomime.

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So the anti-Crybaby sentiment in this thread boils down to a combination of upset Ryofags, screeching about SJWs and somehow managing to both be contrary against auteur directing and mass appeal?

What a bunch of softbois.

Nice strawman. But it's nice that you recognize that there was reason to be upset about what Crybaby did to Ryo's character, that Crybaby's fanbase are SJWs and that Yuasa is both pretentious ("auteur") and baiting the stupid masses.
Now you need to look into all the other arguments and maybe you will gain something that resembles an actual "understanding".

>implying nagai wrote it directly in english
faggot

>implying nagai wrote it directly in english
The whole "My father died" meme assumes that exact shit. Quite telling, if you ask me.

checked

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>Akira
>Chad
Ryo likes him for his pure heart, what really mean Nagai was living his gay fantasy through Akira

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10/10 by 70s standard

>by 70s standard
Which was definitely higher than today's.

late reply but thats the point

/pol/ types dont know basic things like that, nagai was shitting on them

This was my favorite page. Being directly told shit's about to go down gave me chills. I had the dumbest grin on my face when it was referenced in Shin Mazinger too.

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Masterpiece.

>OLD GOOD
>NEW BAD

Devilman is Hunterchad approved. Definitely a must read.

I haven't seen Nagai so disappointed since the Devilman live action.

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Nigger I like the latest FMA anime and the latest HxH anime over the first ones.
But Crybaby did not understand what made the Devilman manga a classic and influential. Its a poor imitation with Yuasa adding his shitty themes into the mix making for a disaster.