Best manga artist

It's called "composition". The shape with no details grabs your attention and leads you towards the focal point of the page which is Saitama standing on the edges of the building. Granted, it could have been balance a little bit better, but maybe that's what Murata was going for.

Atually composition refers to layout of elements, not the detail of said elements. You use layour of elements to direct attention. This is just awful.

>calling movement physics "anatomy"
>calling gesture and direction "panelling"
God, this makes me mad.

He either needed to make it white space (instead of the gradient) or just add a few subtle panel lines.

Please, tell me more. There's a ton of elements to composition: space, color, value, rhythm, shape, details. Contrasting high and low density of details is one of the basic things for getting a nice looking design.

I'm not arguing with that.

I wish someone would scanlate this... raws are easily available...

Someone post the infamous Musashi cutting through the air manga page to end this dumbass thread.

We have all seen Odas and Togashis """""art""""", you can stop posting this bait in every thread

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Oda is pretty goddamn great though

glad to see some appreciation for togashi's art. the expressive and crazy looking stuff during emotional scenes is when he's at his best. can't always get peak togashi but i'm not complaining

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> Every
> Fucking
> Time

It wasn't the final version.

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>no mention of Nihei or Blame!
Shame on you Yea Forums.

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stub your toe faggot

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>memeing togashi
This reaction pic has more expression that togashi's drawings

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This is somehow more cluttered than Oda yet emptier than Kubo. Bravo Togashi

Waddya have against Oda?

Obligatory Kamome Shirahama.

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Rooting for mu weekly niggas

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I also really like this panel. I even bought that volume in Japanese specifically for it. God damn it, Hori and his hand fetish

Trash composition, get out herofag.

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Nothing, he delivers consistently
But I certainly never read anything Oda for the art

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> FIVE fucking shots of the exact same expression of Pitou in a single page

I feel like we have these threads every week

So you have shit taste.

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Azuma

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Very few can compete.

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I think you can start appreciating Oda if you try to look for how good he is at simplyfying things while still keeping the important things clear. His designs are also pretty fun.

His hands are fine as fuck, but his expressions are also incredibly good

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Pretty ugly you mean.

Oda has gotten worse over the years though? Panels are more cluttered, action isn't as clean as it used to be, and his spreads have the absolute worst layouts. His art isn't trash but he clearly peaked out years ago and the stress of his update schedule has affected his quality. I'd suggest he switch to monthly releases but at the rate the story is moving that would push back the completion by a decade, and WSJ needs their cash cow.

>it's an "Yea Forums doesn't know what pretentious means" episode
Murata is overrated, but I can't see how he's "pretentious". The soulless meme would actually be a better criticism here.

Nah, I don't mean it. I mean they are well done and interesting to look at. That's what a good design should be. Being "pretty" is secondary.

Honestly, I don't see it. I find his art mpre interesting as he ages.

This user knows what he talks about

>Soulless
Yeah, counter a phrase used incorrectly with a buzzword that has no actual meaning. Genius critique user

He's right though. Murata is pretty unexpressive and mechanically looking.

You are using words you don't even know and then trying to sound intelligent by putting them together. Stop embarrassing yourself.

What part of his art is unexpressive or "mechanically looking"? It's ridiculously detailed and consistent as all hell. I'm not even really a fan of the series but I think you'd have to be pushing it to deny that his art isn't at least damn good.

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What do you expect from people who unironically use "soulless" as a means of criticizing something?

The total opposite.

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>OPM's art
>Unexpressive
In what fucking world?

Nope, I actually use the words I do understand. They refer to his linework and the way his gesture flow. It's very rough in its nature which makes it what that user called "soulless". The same goes for his designs, which are very generic looking. He doesn't work with small proportions enough.

Did I ever say he wasn't good? Details and consistency are irrelevant here. He doesn't have that sort of a balance in his technique that makes a drawing look natural. i.e. here he got too many hard edges in shadows that could have been soften to make Kings face more natural.

In the world of art. Compared to a how to draw anime book he's good, sure.

> He doesn't have that sort of a balance in his technique that makes a drawing look natural.
What kind of crap are you smoking.

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>50 posts
>no Miura

I'm just telling you how it is.

Don't reply to the bait.

>They refer to his linework and the way his gesture flow. It's very rough
I'll bite, post an example of gestures that don't flow for OPM. Because one of the main compliments of Murata's work over the years is his action sequences and character expressions, and a secondary thing would be his designs in general.

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Btw, that drawing of Fubuki is better than his average.

>linework and the way his gesture flow
Wtf does even mean?
>It's very rough in its nature which makes it what that user called "soulless"
So now being rough means it is soulless.

Dude you are even more retarded than I thought.

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OwO tiddies

It's so obvious that you understand nothing about art and are just using phrases you've heard to try and sound smart. Good lord

Murata is the Michael Bay of manga. Soulless drawings, mindless action and explosions.

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Who?

Shinichi Sakamoto
Though he does heavily use reallife references

>Rough = souless
Nigger you just said his work is unexpressive and mechanical, how can it be mechanical and rough at the same time?

You clearly don't understand what good lines in artwork mean. Also the form, the inking, the trajectory, the symmetry of each line.

Murata uses CGI. He does that for background, buildings, fillings and coloring. Go ask a drawfag or someone who understands about manga art. You don't know anything about artwork and you just like overdetailed CGI shit.

His art is souless and it will never match the likes of Togashi and Oda. Notice that I am only talking about artwork, and I'm not going to use the paneling, choreography and overall composition in my argument; otherwise that would be close to bullying.

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> Murata uses CGI. He does that for background, buildings, fillings and coloring. Go ask a drawfag or someone who understands about manga art. You don't know anything about artwork and you just like overdetailed CGI shit.

95% of drawfags draws digitally.

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Cringe
After reading a couple of chapters you can feel a disgust towards the arts. Pretentious is the best word i can think of to put it in words. Flame me idc
Back to Geddit retard(s)
Agreed

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at least this pedo knows how to draw

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>didn't post any examples
Still waiting for you to prove your point instead of parroting yourself like a retard.

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Who is that? Nice page.

I didn't say his gesture doesn't flow. I said the way it flows makes it mechanical. He doesn't doesn't use it well. He exaggerates it when he doesn't need and keeps it too stiff when he should make it more expressive. Look at this pic for instance . The text is stupid but it got a point. Compare Murata's killing blow to One's. While One's drawing skills are inexistent, he managed to capture a better gesture than Murata.

Or you just don't understand what I'm saying.

Hm. Easily? What's the problem there?

Pedo is good artist, but not so good mangaka, his paneling is awful. Also, since chapter 46.5 quality dropped drastically.

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Made in abyss?

For me it's Takehiko Inoue

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I never meant it as proper critique (which can't really be summed up in one word), I just said it was more accurate than "pretentious". This user more or less gets what I'm saying.

Sasuga Kei

>Has no argument
>"B-Back to weddit with you!"
Based retard.
>Soulless soulless soulless!
Yet again, based retard.
It's from Made in Abyss, one of the best manga currently ongoing right now that will also take decades to finish fuck hiatuses

No it's the Good Ending

Manga isn't just about who can draw the most detailed set of abs. It's about being able to translate a huge range of emotion in to a single page or panel for the reader. Murata's drawings are soulless and plain. He just overuses texture and adds details to mask his poor fundamentals. That's why he is an artist for hire.

Your sperging out is embarassing, read some actually good mangaka or go back to plebbit where you belong. A single page of Nagai or Togashi has more soul than the entire OPM manga.

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Post a single example you brainless fuckwit like has been asking for a while now. Your critiques are absolutely meaningless without any examples given.

>While One's drawing skills are inexistent, he managed to capture a better gesture than Murata.
Given that Murata literally 1:1 copies the layout and composition of most of those panels from ONE I can tell you're full of shit.

>Vagabond
Man, that Manga is beauty on every panel.
I even bought Slam Dunk to see the artists growth from chapter to chapter.

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Post an example from OPM that proves the art is mechanical and "soulless" you absolute retard. Make a case for yourself with evidence instead of throwing out phrases you picked up reading HxH copypastas.

I'm not saying he's bad, I'm saying his overrated. It's not so much what he does wrong, because his art is fine (and technically great) but what his work lacks in general, which isn't something I can just find in one panel to sum it up.

The back to geddit part wasn't meant for but to

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>Manga isn't just about who can draw the most detailed set of abs
I'm glad nobody made details a point then. Well except for you trying to shift goalposts. Post an example of mechanical art and we can discuss it.

He doesn't copy the gesture though. And if you don't see the difference there immediately, I don't think you got enough experience to understand what I'm trying to say here

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Truth. I loved also reading Real with how well he improved his character proportions and facial expressions. Inoue is a legend amongst men.

Shit that reminds me, I have to finish up the last volume of Vagabond. Do you know if it is translated?

>I-I'm not saying he's bad, I'm just using buzzwords to criticize him because I have nothing to back up anything I say!
Should have just admitted from the start you had nothing, fucking retard.
>Narutard
Checks out.

I'll agree that Murata's linework is rough and that his compositions can get very 'orderly' and mechanical, but he was able to do more lively, cartoony shapes in E21. I think it may be in part that Murata wants to distinguish the manga from the webcomic's overall visual style.

I watch it for the nostalgia. Dont flame me.

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>top is better at conveying the force of the impact since RR leans back after struck
>top has head fly in logical direction
>bottom has RR standing limply
>bottom has head flying in the opposite direction he was struck
>top bends the striking arm showing the arc of the punch, Foot not planted on the ground pointed emphasizes the speed of the step in

Looks to me like Murata improved it

>Doesn't have an argument or anything to back up his "critiques"
>Shifts goalposts instead
Based, where's your example of Murata's art being too mechanical and soulless? Come on we're waiting.

inoue or peak miura

You mean the manga with better art than Murata's entire soulless artist for hire career?

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>Narutard
Checks out.

that is a awful
look up kishimotos prototype art for naruto
that is good art not the shitty manga with mediocre art

Top lacks impact and has a stance that looks manufactured.

>turd who can't help but spread hate
Checks out

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How does it lack impact? How does the stance look manufactured? Please elaborate instead of throwing out buzzword phrases, you're trying too hard.

>turd who can't help but spread hate
Where do you think you are?

>Top lacks impact and has a stance that looks manufactured.
Holy shit you're desperate

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>the other user goes in-depth explaining why Murata's version is an overall improvement
>This brainlet just goes with the first smart-sounding things that comes to his tiny mind and ends it at that
"Soulless"fags truly are subhuman.

I'm not trying to prove anything user, just saying that while his work is work is technically proficient, doesn't hold up to the great esteem some hold him in.
I don't get what you're sperging out about? It's not a big deal.

Doesn't mean you need to it. Nobody wants other people to hate what they like

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Is he the brainlet or you dumbasses for engaging with him the last 50 minutes.

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You aren't trying to prove anything because none of your criticisms hold under the slightest of pushes. You may as well have said "Murata's art is good but I don't like it as much so everyone else is wrong for saying it's great because yes." and it would've had the exact same meaning.

see

This

Don't be so autistic user, almost everything posted on this board is just someone's opinion. Do I need to preface every thing I post with "imo, I think that..."? Just imagine I did.

Credit to him, this lecture has gone by extremely quickly thanks to this retarded argument so something good came out of it.
It's fun though.
>FranXXfag
I take it back, you've suffered enough with these shows, you don't need any further bullying.

I agree with this. The art (plus the extra content) of Murata's OPM made the series less funny and charming.

There's a difference between posting opinions and trying to act like your opinions are a factual representation of the quality of a manga's art. You've made criticisms that are unsubstantiated and when pressed you just shift the goalposts. Nothing you've said has been substantiated in the slightest and now it looks like you've just jumped to the "i-it's just my opinion!" excuse since you've been called out.
I'm bored now, enjoying any shows this season?

You're trying too hard, user.

Imagine being this seething that you got schooled about art and can no longer shill your artist for hire.

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Come on user you can't just start falseflagging again after you got bullied.

That image has largely been treated as a meme specifically because most of it is so opinionated, and the rest is untrue. Hell, the fact that someone complains about more panels in a re-write is enough to dismiss the whole thing and it has been.

Find a better example because Ripper dying only shows how much better Murata's art is

This the reason why user's like you are called redditors. Not everyone finds a mid-tier show like DitF to be the "saviour of anime" just because they enjoyed it and used the smile of best girl(in the anime) on a post. After 15000 plus hours of watching anime there are cases like me not becoming an elitist and instead just enjoying all of it while rating it differently. Be altruistic and at some point you can reach that place where you release a good cocktail of neurochemicals called flow. This is where you will find tha greatest enjoyment in anime.
>inb4 circlejerk

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I am aware, thats what I mean by he delivers, restrained, planned production

That enough people complain about the redraw of that part means it's shit.
Ripper was one of the best moments in the wm and murata ruined it by making it some dull moment, that definitely wasn't his best art.

I didn't watch DiTFXX but I masturbated 50 times to Zero Two. Shut up nerd.

>Enough people complain
>One person who was autistic enough to make an image that's purely opinionated = enough people
Of course, whatever helps you sleep at night retard.

>That enough people complain about the redraw of that part means it's shit.
People complain about every part of the redraw. But by your logic that makes the whole manga shit so at least your consistent.

Your comprehension level is way too high

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You can't pretend to be an anime elitist while posting a screencap from the fucking Monogatari series.

It is true that ONE's original is better than murata's though.

Okay i will just leave.

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Gomenasai, I only think of one thing when I see 02. Nerd.

>d e t a i l s

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Hahahahahaha

Bless murata

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>128 posts
>ctrl+f
>no kaoru mori

What have Yea Forums become. Shame on you all

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Is she lesbo?

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Like that isn't Pitou at the bottom panel.

Do you really save panels from things you don't read? Are you that mentally ill? get off the computer, retarded child, your mom wants her Lenovo back.

>tfw no steppe waifu to play swing with

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The booty.

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she always have certain appreciation to the womanly form.

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>the way wind and momentum accentuate her hips and the cloth around it
Smith is the luckiest man alive holy shit

>nobody posted the real excellence
typical Yea Forums

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Nihei work is badass, I can't imagine someone with the same background skills. Maybe Boichi, but he references a lot.
He came a long way since Slam Dunk.
I have several, but in no particular order
>Boichi
>Shinichi Sakamoto
>Yukito Kishiro
>Tsutomu Nihei
>Yu Kinutani
>Katsuhiro Otomo
>Kentaro Miura
>if you want to count some of their comics, Kazuya Terada and Yoshikazu Yasuhiko.

Too many dots and lines.

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What is this clusterfuck, you could have so many better examples

DELET

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The one and only king of mangaka.

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Again this retardness. IF YOU DON'T FOLLOW PANEL RULES, THERE ISN'T A PANEL COMPOSITION, just page layout.

>Panel rules
No such thing. Art is creativity and rules only limit ones creativity.

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Despite the fact that other mangaka are more technical, if you think Togashi and ONE are actually bad at page composition you're delusional or retarded

>drawing random lines
Are you retard? The pose ONE drew is while he was already hit (the head jumped upwards and then hit the wall and came back), while Murata is drawing the event occurring, more impactful. You can see this in their legs position.

Even the perspective on those roofs are fucked, lol.

>drawing in prefabricated texture
>details
kek

>retard
Yes, Art itself doesn't have limitation. A fucking manga does though.

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Sometimes manga can be art.

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>copying
>art
kek

Why does every art thread on Yea Forums have to be shit-flinging about who's favourite artist is better?
Does it fucking matter? You don't have to derail a fucking thread to prove your choice is the superior option

Actually, there is to an extent. It was established by Tezuka ages ago as part of his experimentation, the panel flow we know right now (right-to-left, top-to-bottom) hasn't always been the case
there's a lot of tones in that image (as usual) but there's still a lot of hatching and details

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Would you care to point me to the article in the "Manga rules book" that states that you have to use certain layouts or you'll get fined or go to jail?

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>tracing tree = details
wut?
The shadows are detailed, but he sacrifices background, applying a shitty filter/texture or nothing at all, for them so the two cancel each other out.

> It was established by Tezuka ages ago as part of his experimentation, the panel flow we know right now (right-to-left, top-to-bottom)
That's so retarded. Japanese write from right to left, that's why manga is read that way and comics existed way before Tezuka was even born. You're a subhuman brainlet.

Looks like an absolute fucking mess. Why is this praised again? Drawing characters outside of the panel isn't special. Muh emotions.

>doesn't have reading comprehension
That user didn't say there weren't mangas prior Tezuka, but that they had different paneling and he set the rules to the current standard in use still now a days.

Rather than "being jailed" it becomes difficult to read and the page doesn't flow very well.
twitter.com/rachel_thorn_en/status/954370209380368384
It's twitter, but it's an interesting read with a few examples.
The first page has suggestions of trees, they're background and less detailed (not traced)
Second page has the tree in shadow, could be traced, maybe referenced, might be not. It's dark is supposed to contrast the light creature on it
>detail
I'd argue the opposite, user. The pages aren't particularly detailed but the artists knows what he wants to make noticeable and what not to

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That's not true at all, though.
>The history of manga is said to originate from scrolls dating back to the 12th century, and it is believed they represent the basis for the right-to-left reading style. During the Edo period (1603-1867), Toba Ehon embedded the concept of manga.[31] The word itself first came into common usage in 1798,[24] with the publication of works such as Santō Kyōden's picturebook Shiji no yukikai (1798),[25][26] and in the early 19th century with such works as Aikawa Minwa's Manga hyakujo (1814) and the Hokusai Manga books (1814–1834).[28][32]

Saying that Tezuka invented the layout of manga is retarded.

That standard Tezuka layout is outdated and boring. Togashi is able to give more motion and dimension to the pages by going off panel, or linking one panel to the other by using a character.

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this one is alright

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Togashi is pretty creative with his paneling, he can also draw pretty well when he really wants to
What's up with those "E" sound effects though? Why was that added by the typesetter?

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We are discussing technical stuff, not what the Mangaka wants to convey in the story.
I didn't say the pages are detailed, but the shadows. The backgrounds are none existent.

cringe crab

Berserk & OPM best art manga .

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Fucking Viz, man. They try to make manga as westernized as possible.

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>going off panel = out of the competition
So fuck off. If he wants to show his creativity, he can do in panel, like many other mangakas, or, drawing outside the manga, in a canvas.

muh composition

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kek

Don't worry. He can do that too. Togashi's style is always different, that's why he's regarded as one of the best mangaka in history.

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It's not fucking fair

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Backgrounds disappearing/reappearing during action-sequences is something really common
it's a kind of way focusing the readers attention on certain things.
I personally like it, you might not. I remember Miura often drew all the details all the time
How often does Togashi go back and redraw for tankoubon release? Honestly prefer the look in the middle

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>it's another soulless-murata fanboys episode
That's when you know people have shit taste

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That wasn't redrawn by Togashi. That's just the scanlator making it darker. Notice how Viz and the original Jap scan are the same. That's because Viz gets their scans directly from Shueisha.
I posted that pic to show that Viz fucks up a lot with their translations and adds onomatopoeia just like in western comics (the "E" sound you were asking about)

not a single mention of yoshikadu wtf you all have shit taste

terrible females aside

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>no Asano
>no direct mention of tkmiz

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not that user but you are fucking retarded if you think that CGI is the same as digital draw

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Real artists don't use digital, they use a simple pencil and ink.

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yoshikadu, puts most modern mangaka to shame he is just to skilled: youtube.com/watch?time_continue=184&v=7dmKLQOSvQk

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What is this horseshit lel

my nigga

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Finally some men of taste

Tsu easily

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It's bound that these threads are just going to be spammed to death by shounenfags
I like Murata and Togashi, but every art thread and every single one before this devolves into shitposting

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Murata is probably the best current artist.
He produce such a high fucking quality pages in such short time

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it's a seinen not a shonen, it's hard ecchi a lot of the time.

It's kind of amazing how Yoshikazu was good from the start but only got better

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I wouldn't really consider HxH a shounen

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been good for a long time

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he even drew a fan sfw doujin of dragon maid and he managed to draw them even better than the original mangaka.

Pretty much this

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Blame Hunter fags

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suehiro maruo

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last one

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Whoever thinks Murata's art is anything below God tier should be euthanized.

It's published in Weekly Shounen Jump.

Are you stupid? Nobody posted in this thread can hold a candle to the brilliancy of Togashi's clean paneling & composition, let alone his top tier choreography. Let me demonstrate it with this example:

The first page shows Biscuit facing off against Binolt, a bounty hunter and serial killer. The audience to the fight, Gon & Killua, have no idea how powerful Biscuit is, and neither does the reader.
Togashi starts the page with Biscuit lifting Binolt up without effort; Biscuit’s body has almost no speed lines, emphasizing the ease with which she can lift a full grown man. Instead, all of the speed lines are focused in on Binolt’s body as it rises; he’s completely powerless to even move. The second panel emphasizes the same qualities: once again, Biscuit’s body barely moves, while Binolt’s spins at incredible speed. The final panel on the page boils the fight down to its pure essence: Biscuit, almost completely stationary while Binolt is sent exactly where she wants him.

>And then there’s the page turn

Forcing the reader to hold their expectation is one of the oldest tricks in comics, and Togashi knows it’s an evergreen technique. However, he also contrasts this new page with the former. There are speed lines everywhere, more impact lines, heavier crosshatching, and mild exaggeration in the features. The previous page is time boiled down to a few moments, milliseconds even. This page is time speeding up. Biscuit hits Binolt so hard he vomits a frankly improbable amount of blood before he even hits the ground. It’s the next three seconds of the fight boiled down to a single, action-packed panel. The middle-bottom panel is Gon and Killua, barely visible and stunned. And then Biscuit ends the page by clarifying that she wasn’t using her full strength.

In two pages, Togashi’s made a girl in a puffy umbrella skirt cooler than your favorite character, using comic techniques familiar to almost any comics reader.

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Try cleaning all those lines (gibberish) and return here to say the same thing.

You clearly don't understand what good lines in artwork mean. Also the form, the inking, the trajectory, the symmetry of each line. Togashi does that masterfully. Murata uses CGI. He does that for background, buildings, fillings and coloring. Go ask a drawfag or someone who understands about manga art. You don't know anything about artwork and you just like overdetailed CGI shit.
His art is souless and it will never match the likes of Togashi. Notice that I am only talking about artwork, and I'm not going to use the paneling, choreography and overall composition in my argument; otherwise that would be close to bullying.

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tl;dr

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So was Eva and JoJo

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shame that half of shamo is hot garbage

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for me its Shūzō Oshimi

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finally someone with taste itt

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They don't appear or disappear, they are none existent.
He draws only what is needed to show the current events.
In the pic you posted, the sky are speed lines but weren't needed at all and the trucks are fucked up (perspective wise), so he doesn't have to draw anything there.

Murata is fucking amazing.

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Using textured paper doesn't count.

>It's published in Weekly Shounen Jump.
>published in Weekly Shounen Jump.
>published Weekly.

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I'm excited for Murata to get to the final 10 chapters of this arc

I can't wait for this page.

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Please tell me that's edited. Is this actually how Berserk looks now. Look at the copypasted background elements and samey moe faces.

>Murata is fucking amazing.
He truly is

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The art noticeably drops around chapter 340 when Miura switches to digital tools. Many anons argue that the story does too after Golden Age

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Reminder that Murata drew himself bowing down to the true King of Kino, Yoshihiro Togashi.

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I think Boichi is pretty good. He's making high quality art every week.

ctrl+c ctrl+v libraries, flat stairs, incorrect positioning of characters from one panel to another, wrong shadowings on characters and on some furnishings, digitally pasted trees.

Not to mention architectural flaws with those columns that won't support any of that load on the entablature but I don't expect mangakas to know this.

Yes, that's the name of the magazine.

Makoto Yukimura

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>incorrect positioning
>wrong shadowings

That isnt how art works. And all modern manga use digital backgrounds

I wish he posted HQ scans on Twitter more often.

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Kino.

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>And all modern manga use digital backgrounds
That's not true.

>gross stuff
Big fucking deal

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Why showing a huge space with that kind of lightning if you can't be consistent about the only thing in motion?
>positioning
They aren't on the stairs, they are there, they aren't there again. Their in between position also changes. In the middle there was the hero (?), then, there isn't the hero anymore, then he reappears there.

What the fuck is it about Murata that makes any thread immediately turn to shit the minute he’s posted. You don’t see this with any other artist on Yea Forums, especially with this level of autism

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he is okay, he suffers to much from white space backgrounds he could learn something from the made in abyss manga

Because they are mentally ill, that's why.

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he is over hyped is all, people just like him because he re drew one punch man before that nobody gave to much shit about him. it's not really that he is one of the best manga artists more so he is one of the most popular

why is she so CUTE

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Muratafags have read less than 10 manga and need to be schooled

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i want to kiss that face of hers

I love me so e Junji Ito

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No one even comes close to Inoue in my opinion.

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>Literally lives rent free in all Yea Forumsnons
Most based mangaka

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who?

based

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That's a reference to HxH, you know that, right?

>Hiatusfags keep acting smug even though nobody takes their autistic ramblings seriously
I have always wondered how you people became so delusional that you think people actually care about what you have to say.

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this Inoue used to be an assistant of Togashi

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Dance, my precious. DANCE!

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Murata drew an entire water based scene and even coloured it, lol.

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How can anyone say Murata is soulless?

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He even coloured the page, instead of using a shitty texture.

That's Eyeshield, not OPM. He still had soul when he was drawing Eyeshield.

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This man is a world treasure.

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Murata's old days have long since passed, stop dicksucking his soulless art

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>Responding
Let them seeth about Murata

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>literally capeshit

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Yo, can we just talk about how fucking powerful Meruem is !?!? He took an atomic blast like ... What ? 10 meters from the detonation and he STILL survived !!! As a crispy chip, yes, but he was fucking alive !!!

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He almost always does that for colored pages/covers you retard.

Because that attrack aids Huntertards.

First one is Boros ship falling.

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Someone post Orochi

Faggot, your mangakas literally use textured page for black and white drawings.

This is better.

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OPM is capeshit, you retard.

cope more because your mangaka sucks, kek.

brothers

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Here

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Bro, what do I need to cope for? HxH sells more than OPM. Murata is drawing only filler fights that nobody cares about and the fandom is bored of that shit. JC stuff is raping the S2 that you've been waiting for years and Murata has said many times that he sees Togashi as his master and even drew himself bowing down to him.

>Some anons are unironically posting boichi

>No mention of Masanori Morita or Keiichi Koike
>One mention of Katsuhiro Otomo

Yea Forums is either fucking retarded or blind.

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>HxH sells more than OPM.
Kek, Are you comparing 7 years sales to 20+?
>the fandom is bored of that shit
you mean you and the other autistic that keeps saying everything is filler?
>and even drew himself bowing down to him
>people don't change and students can't surpass teachers
another kek

Sui Ishida it is for me

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guys are you even trying ?

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*Blocks your path to the Louvre exhibit*

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HxH have also a way lower ratio of volumes released than any other of the list, so people have a far easier time following up and buying them, which makes the individual volume sales higher. But when you compare the sales lf a whole year it’s not even comparable.

Only Togashi has the balls to do this.

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You mean the cumulative sales where all other manga have 5 or 6 volumes out and HxH only 1 or 2 volumes? How about we see how much HxH sales when a volume comes out. Last one sold 500k in 2 days. It takes OPM 6 months to sell that much.

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>comparing a '98 manga that had 21 years to gather fans to a 7 year old manga again
kek

Even when OPM was at its peak with the Madhouse anime generating all that fucking hype around the world, it still didn't sell as much as HxH.

read carefully

>It’s another Murata vs HxHfags thread
I hate you fucks so much. You ruin every thread you enter

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Attack on Titan did it because its actually good instead of OPM that was riding on the capeshit + anime hype.

>AoT
>good
kek

More like Hxhfags vs litterally anyone they feel like fucking with

Agreed, muratafaggots a literally nu-narutards.

Bow down like your beta mangaka did.

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This.

You're faaaaar too intelligent to be wasting your time in a thread like this

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seeNot surprising that AoT fags and HxH fags can't read.

How about you shut the fuck up instead and leave you waste of oxygen. I don’t care about Murata or whatever other shit you’re in about, I came here to talk art. Keep your shit arguments to yourself and actually post something instead of making a mockery out of every thread you enter. Better yet, do your parents a favor and fucking end yourself already.

>Nobody posted Shinichi Sakamoto

What about posting him instead of bitching?

cringe

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Kek'd, murtards are as pathetic as their shitty hack.

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What’s cringe is your character posting and constant need to be the center of attention. You bring up dumb shit no one cares about in threads just to start an argument. Let me repeat this, no one fucking cares about your thoughts, about you, or your shit series, in real life and on this board. People came to talk about art, and you’re once again ruining everything with your special breed of autism. So fuck off, either from life or off this board, we’re done here.

Reminder to report and ignore

This thread is too shitty for him.

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cringe

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Nekokurage

>no background man

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>HxH in a best mangaka thread
off-topic and extremely low quality

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Wish this series would come back.

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Too many teenyboppers on Yea Forums. It's not even that newer manga is bad it's just seeing the same few manga endlessly re-posted in these threads is depressing.

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Yeah, I've never seen anyone post this Tezuka fellow before. What a find!

>that will also take decades to finish fuck hiatuses
blame VR chat

Kotaro Yamada is pretty good.

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it looks amazing, can you recommend the sacred blacksmith.

Togashi is a master of fundamentals, paneling and creating memorable page composition. The man is a genius who can set up his scenes from interesting pov angles that are able to put in contrast what each scene is exactly trying to portray. As an example, I'll direct you to this page which is one my favorites of Togashi's magnum opus. Let me break it down for you:

The head shot of Gon breaks the boundaries of the first panel, which already takes up almost the entire first half of the page, making him feel imposing and setting the tone. His pointing hand is aimed right at the eyes of the reader and it seems to hover above the page, making it feel close and uncomfortable.
The reactions to his words are framed around the hand, small and unimportant. The final panel is a shot of the enemy's feet, giving the idea that they're looking down in defeat and submission.

Overall I think, this should give many authors and artists a textbook example of "paneling done right".

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Bendis Homage?

I want to lewd this loli.

It's alright, I thought it was worth reading.

>tfw no one likes Oh!Great since Air Gear ended
>implying Air Gear was good

I still liked it, faggots. And god his art was so great.

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You can't even shitpost right.

I liked Air Gear and I'm following Biorg Trinity still. Even though he doesn't write it, the story is just as weird.

Dont expect too much from OPtards.

As much as I dislike MHA, I gotta hand it to the mangaka. The art is great and the stylization is on point.

thanks user. Very easy to tell which one is better by looking at this.

>trying this hard to find something to hate murata on.

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>As much as I dislike MHA

Prefacing your post with this doesn't make your shilling less obvious, Herocuck. Hori can't compose a page for shit, or panel anything with a hint of complexity. Just look at all of the clusterfuck fights in the Yakuza arc with debris covering everything and inconsistent positioning.

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high IQ post

>m a n u f a c t u r e d

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Based

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Araki

Kek, murata's art in opm sucks balls, like 80% of the drawing reeks of computer made. Still waiting for that lazy faggot to come back an do something with his own artstyle like before.

lmao

I basically just did a realistic Oda design in MS paint

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He's a very good artist. The best WSJ has gotten in a long time.

Shame the manga became shit

kek

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I disagree the story drops after golden age. Conviction is the best written part of the series. Lost children's arc, the tower arc, and the little bit after until they reach the forest with the trolls is incredible, 100% peak berserk.

After that it start to decline, only a little bit at first, the forest stuff and the berserker armor are still nuts, but then I think the story got too big Miura and it starts to lose focus once they make it to port city because it becomes so much bigger than the very personal story of Guts and now includes several other characters as well as a whole apocalyptic end of days story line with Griffith, the hiatuses i'm sure haven't helped Miura keep focused either.

Why aren't hunterfags banned on sight?
It's always the same shit on almost every manga thread, they just circlejerk hxh to no end and get butthurt when someone dares to call them on their bullshit
I don't know how that's possible but those fuckers are worse than shonenfags right now

His skill is constantly applauded in almost every new chapter.

Me too

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>tfw i like hxh and don't shitpost
This whole board is filled with false flaggers of every flavor and it's fucking killing everything. Instead of console wars we have jump wars.

betterstoryalittlebitbetterart couldve been berserk lvl

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>tfw I like oda's early art the best

It was more charming to me...I don't know why. I think it captured a light hearted atmosphere better. Making it more relaxing on the eyes.

Ryū Mizunagi can draw, faces aren't the best but with murata's shitty faces being posted that isn't a problem I guess.

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best panel coming through

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Well he blew him out of the water.

based on this criteria JJBA btfos HxH

Murata does too much quality art which is unironically bad because standard brainlet cant possible connect everything together. Same shit with s2 mp

>brainlet watching show
>theres no "bad quality - unimportant; good quality - important" pattern
>brainlet confused
>brainlet thinks that everything is bad/souless
>brainlet thinks hes smart now

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>when you don't know shit about drawing but still try

Just finished the first volume and man, what a great read.

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We all know in our hearts that Isayama is the best artist

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I honestly like his style, but the 2006 oneshot you posted there is hilarious

Really average. Even used that shitty filter many old Mangaka use.

Based and 100% true

I think his art is fantastic, but his work is a bit obscure in the west. Not as obscure as something like Cestvs, but enough to be appreciated by 1 or 2 guys among lot of people repeating One or Miura. You just cant blame them, if they read their works they would definitly give Morita a good place

I personaly prefer him to Takehiko Inoue in terms of art.

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That page looks horrible

This seems cool, source?

It's extremely hard to pick someone hard to pic something specifically, because all pages what i have pre saved are beautiful.

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honestly, I prefer the art around part 3 the most
not because hurr muh GAR but because it feels like everyone has become way too stoic since, part 3 was still pretty cartoony and expressive

kishiro is pretty SOULful

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That edit is atrocious.

did you actually expect anyone to read your drivel

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Tabata is one of my favorites, I love his scenery.

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I honestly like One's art more, I find it more cute and charming.

I love Nakayama Atsushi's artstyle.

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Question...…. Why are their eyes the size of Roasted Hams?

Why else?

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The bigger the better.

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Ok that's starting to near Sonic's Mono-Eye levels.

I'm convinced that Miura's dead and a ghost writer has been coming up with ways to continue the plot for the last year or so.

For me it's Oh! Great

Why does this get posted in every thread

Because Gon is cool and quirky and not like other
̶g̶i̶r̶l̶s̶ shonen protagonists.

Because instead of just enjoying HxH for what it is, a better then average Shounen with a decent plot they have to act like its the goddamn second coming of Christ given Manga form. claiming it to be an unparalleled masterpiece and that Togashi has no flaws, even with all the retardation that OPMfags spew they just wank of to the Art and say Murarta is 'best artist", but HxHfags can not and will not accept that HxH is anything less then perfect, they will try to deny it and say they are just "Praising it" but actions speak louder then words, ignore them if you can they'll slink back to their caves when the sun rises.

Unironically

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Baki has good art but he handles the whole "Human Form taken to the extreme" in a rather poor manner on occasions.

The Baki series* almost made it seem Like I called the Mangaka Baki.

Its part of the greatness of this franchise. Author is trying to tell you that those guys already left humanity behind long ago in pursuit of their martial art styles.

Yeah I understand that concept but the Author doesn't portray it in ways that First Off are appealing, Baki's art is so crazy in the designs that its as memeable as Rubber Nen and 7 Quirks without actually being an asspull, and Secondly he doesn't draw them in ways physically possible, I don't mean for Humans, I mean for Carbon Based Life Forms, even a manga that took huge inspiration from it, Kengan Ashura made it so the insanity of the warped Martial Artists still looked Biologically Possible for a living Organism to Achieve, I love Baki don't get me wrong but them leaving their Humanity behind for Martial Arts contradicts itself if it makes their bodies the worst possible hosts for said Martial Arts, there are a few characters who can get a pass due to either being hundreds of years old or having Prophecies about their Backs but the physiques are still a large detriment in my opinion.

just started reading this yesterday. love the style a lot

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Based hunterchads

this. Yea Forums simply cant cope

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Hirano might be the best at paneling and conveying movement.

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You are in a for treat, lucky because I love coming back to vagabond and reading it all over for the artwork.

Gon is a deconstruction of the happy-go-lucky shounen protagonist.

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Is this good shading?

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At least post the non-shit page.

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Hard to tell since every mangaka has his own style and technique, some add more poetry, some add more movement, some add more narration.

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Ohkubo would be one of my favorites if he wasn's so inconsistent with his anatomy

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>surpasses your shonen
>nothing personnel kid

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The final arc was rather lackluster and the ending could've easily gotten 5-10 more chapters to wrap things up, instead of that last minute info dump we got. But still, I'm really looking forward to Ishida's next work just because of his unique art style.

finally

soul

anyone remember the manga where the kid is cursed with a flame that never goes out?

It is shadowing done for a purpose.