Re:zero

do you think the anime adaptation will have rem scenes to compensate for her lack of screentime or just quietly sideline her? will it flop or become a masterpiece?

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How can this slut be so great?

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>masterpiece
>LN arc 4
No
Also anime were the first ones skipping rem scenes, specially her romantic ones with subaru, so you should know the answer

Well, for the whole "stab myself in neck because she's in a coma" scene, it might be good to have some flashbacks to their love confessions at the very least, since that was skipped in season 1.
Could make for a very tragic moment, and a nice shitstorm for animeonlies.

But yeah the sanctuary arc is pretty great, Rem does get her little moments, but I'm betting Ram/Beako are gonna steal the show.

If they want her coma to have any impact they can show those scenes by flashbacks as Subaru finds her and realises she's not waking up.

What will cause the biggest shitstorm? The coma scene or Roswaal's reveal?

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But director just wants to design new ourfits for his emilia tan!

Will we get extra scenes of Emilia spinning in new dresses?

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I think most people think Roswaal is pretty sketchy already, but its kind of a lot.
If the whole strangling business is in there, it might get close.
But like a lot of what I see is "will Rem return in s2" and such, so I think the coma will be the biggest one.

Good god, why does the thought of sticking my fingers in a girls mouth like OP's pic turn me on so much?

Just thinking of sticking my fingers in Rem's wet and sloppy mouth, feeling her soft tongue wrapping around them makes me wanna cum. I bet Rem gives the best blowjobs.

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I'm hoping on a releasedate soon.
Don't expect it to be this year but damn this waiting is tedious.

Would you an oni?

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Rem coma will be the biggest shitstorm
Subaru loving rem too, unless director manages to skip/downplay every single mention of that and makes it seem they are platonic friends to the animeonlies

>Implying they won't downplay any mention of Rem until she's slowly driven out of the story

I drew this just for you

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I think a lot of animeonlies will drop it then.
Or start reading the ln like I did.
She's kind of the face of the series.

Animeonlies are contrarian emiliafags, at least the noisy side. Most of the remfags probably aren't that noisy

I wish I could be hopefull like you anons, but this is probably what will happen

I don't think it'd be handy to forget about it.
The season will have a lot of nice things if they use the whole sanctuary arc, but downplaying Rem would not be in their best interest.

Rem barely exist after Peteleguese defeat, the fact she´s the "useless party member", a simple cum-dumper for Subaru. because the author need justify Rigel existence, he was procreated before of Ekidna resurrection

I expect we'll get a flashback, or get to see her getting defeated and eaten.

I want to cum in smug rem's mouth!

>generic isekai trash
>masterpiece
This dumb shit is literally for incels.

LN added a rant about Regulus's first wife who never smiled.
>A girl who used to watch him since he was young. She didn't smile. She couldn't be made to smile. That was fine. It's fine that she doesn't smile. Why is she smiling? Why, only in the last moments, are you laughing? Stop. Don't laugh. Don't laugh. Don't laugh, I won't be alone...
Paraphrasing here. Seems she killed herself in front of him.

Real original opinion there buddy

Hot

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re zero isn't generic isekai though user

>no harem
>mc is weak and has to actually learn from his weakness
>mc actually acts how a real neet loser would

much better than other isekai, but still isekai trash nonetheless

by this point i think a lot of animeonlies have been spoiled to the real conclusion of arc 3 and rem's ultimate fate and if the direction board of rezero 2 downplay her they will raise a fuss about it to the point of spoiling other animeonlies

>by this point i think a lot of animeonlies have been spoiled to the real conclusion of arc 3
nah, maybe the ones around here but the people here are a very small fraction of the people who watch Re:Zero

>Subaru loving rem too
I thought he loved Emilia?

>[Rem: Say “I love you”…]
>Rem spilled these words out with a faint, frail voice while looking up at Subaru.
>In her vision which had become blurred by the swell of tears that gushed up, she saw Subaru shake his head. After that, Subaru brought his face close to her and said,
>[Subaru: I love you(suki da)]
>[———–]
>[Subaru: I love you(daisuki da). Isn’t that obvious…If you aren’t with me, I can’t live on…]
>It was his true feelings. If you were to say that this was when he spilled everything out, that wouldn’t be an exaggeration and would be an accurate statement. If it wasn’t for her, he wouldn’t come this far. >If she were to disappear, he would not be able to live on.
>[Rem: Ahhh…I’m happy…]
>Accepting Subaru’s confession, Rem felt a tear alongside her closed eyes. Taking in Subaru’s words happily, her face quickly blushed. Soon after, it now really did seem that all power within her body had departed.
>[Subaru: Wait…]
>[Rem: I love you(aishiteimasu), Subaru-kun]
>[Subaru:Don’t fuck with me, stay by my side. You’re going to leave me with regrets again!?]
>Subaru could not bear to live in a near future where Rem would cease to exist. Along with knowing this fact since long ago, her existence still has become sooo much more important to him, compared to long ago. So,
>[Subaru: In the future where I talk while smiling, I need you…I don’t want this]
>[Rem: In that future, is it okay if I stay by your side?]
>[Subaru: ….Isn’t the answer obvious? I won’t let you go to anyone else’s side.]
>Wiping off her tears that were suspended on her eyelids, Subaru looked straight at Rem and said:
>[Subaru: You are mine. I won’t let anyone have you.]
>[Rem: Proposal accepted!]
>[Subaru: Heh?]
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He's talking about the WN it was removed in the LN which is Emilia only and that's what the anime is going to be following most likely.

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do you think you'll finally get off your fat ass and actually do something with your life?

Says the guy on Yea Forums

He loves rem too as much as emilia (and arguably more by the point the wn is now), but they completely skipped his confession to rem in season one (it would be after the white whale fight) so don't be surprised if they are trying to make them seem like very platonic friends in the anime as far as they can (director is a emiliafag).
In his meeting with witch of lust, he sees her as rem. I wonder how they will modify that

LN reader who just finished vol 9 here

This is pretty much bullshit. There aren't anymore romance scenes Rem and Subaru beyond the fake death and polygamy stuff.

but he aint wrong though

>it was removed in the LN.
Nope. It wasn't removed in the ln. The confession was there as well. The anime was the first to remove that

>This is pretty much bullshit. There aren't anymore romance scenes Rem and Subaru beyond the fake death and polygamy stuff.
>LN reader
There is your answer. Because they downgraded or cut everything there since arc 4 started

How so?

Remfags and Emiliafags are both annoying as fuck. The story would be infinitely better without any romance since it's the least interesting aspect. If Rem wasn't stuck being a love interest for Subaru she could have been actually part of the plot instead of coma'd. She was only written out to silence the waifu faggotry.

That’s why beakofags are the true patricians

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Anime removed the confession as well.
Everything rem related in arc 4 was downgraded because it was done with season 2 in mind and completely erasing any romantic feelings subaru has for rem there. It isn't bullshit, the anime began removing those, and the LN continued, check volume 10 release date, it was after the anime

Beako is the best girl for many reasons. Her part to play in the story is way more interesting than Emilia or Rem and she isn't romantically interested in Subaru which means she isn't brain dead.

>But yeah the sanctuary arc is pretty great, Rem does get her little moments, but I'm betting Ram/Beako are gonna steal the show.

Emilia, Otto, Echidna and Betty get most of the ironic fanart of Arc 4. Ram's scenes barely get any mentions. How that gotten be much better here?

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I wonder if they also did it to make Subaru seem like less of a creep. Trying to date two girls at once is pretty off putting.

They won't show the confession. They are trying to make them seem like platonic friends in the anime (see all the changes of subaru feelings for rem in the ln starting arc 3 epilogue/finale, which was made after anime ended and the skipped confesion.
What is funny of all of this is that the arc 6 keeps bringing again subaru feelings for rem over and over. Its kinda dumb that tappei does this when they will erase that from the LN/anime.

They weren't downgraded and all the scenes except for one. The comparison states they still there and literally every LN knows that Subaru loves then both.

It's only a downgrade to Remfags here becasue they believe she seriously gonna win in the WN and don't think Tappei is actually going for polygamy lmao. He's favorite isekai is Joblesss Reincarnation which ends in that!

>evert LN (reader) knows that Subaru loves them both.
Because LN, has the confession. Anime doesn't. Take that out and subaru's romantic feelings will be unexistant in the anime

>It's only a downgrade to Remfags here becasue they believe she seriously gonna win in the WN
>implying emilia is going to win
Lmao

Did the LN cut anything from arc 4?

>They weren't downgraded and all the scenes except for one.
Improve your english, and by someone who has read both and did not just read the doc, yes they did. And not only the rem scenes. They cut off many things (O, MY TELEPORTATION STONE)
>remfags here believe she is going to win.
Honestly as someone who doesn't give a fuck about who wins I don't see emilia dying and rem winning by rebound that crazy or unexpected. I expect emilia end. But rem end can perfectly happen because it's not like emilia will 100% survive until the end of the story. Tappei stated emilia won't be the main heroine of arc 11

>The comparison states they still there and literally every LN knows that Subaru loves then both.
Fuck the comparison. Are you really going to sit there and use somebody else's opinion as fact to try to defend your point. It's absolutely insane to think this.
>Note: I’m like 90% sure this won’t ever matter or come up again, and that changes like this were not made with the intention of ‘retconning’ the polygamy or romance, but I’m noting it anyway on the off-chance something significant arises from this (so far, nothing).
Subaru’s monologues and actions still make it clear that he loves Rem, and it seems to be implicitly understood by Emilia and everyone else anyway, as far as I can tell.
Every possible scene Subaru would show his feelings for Rem they have done away with. The ones they couldn't cut were changed to be more ambiguous. They are absolutely retconning Subaru's feelings for Rem even though the source material doesn't allow it.

> literally every LN knows that Subaru loves then both.
Not the readers who start exactly where the anime left off, it's like you don't know Japanese people. Those fucks aren't going to bother rereading something they already watched.

It's easier to count the things that weren't changed.

>Subaru’s monologues and actions still make it clear that he loves Rem, and it seems to be implicitly understood by Emilia and everyone else anyway, as far as I can tell.
is supposed to be memearrowed

Better ask what it wasn't cut from arc 4

what wasn't cut*

>even though the source material doesn't allow it.
This shit is what bugs me the most.
Its not like tappei has stopped showcasing subaru's feelings for rem. In fact the opposite has happened. All for what? Emilia shipperfag editor cutting it out?

Who's rem?

Funny and original

An unstoppable force. She is so powerful she has forced the author's hand to bend to her will.

>It’s often said that characters that go beyond the author’s plans come alive. Subaru is a protagonist that strongly goes towards that trend, but she is the one who jumped over that framework and moved it. Not even a fragment of the initial plot’s top face is left. As a result of love for her springing up, this has become the only character introduction that appears to be favored this much.

>implying emilia won't die and rem win by rebound

Where should I start reading from if I finished the anime? Do I have to start from the beginning because of the differences?

docs.google.com/document/d/1_wOtTltdwZhHK0UKaV1AelPcA-K70SdWPcY3FTBJGnA/edit
Scroll to "Post.Ep 25 (+Arc 4 & 5)" and as it says:
Read all the essential to read cut content (there is more cut content, but that one is necesary to read, you can read the rest too if you want, all cut content is there.
Then read all the arc3 interludes (which is the continuation of the end of season one)
For arc 4 read user's complete arc 4 translation.
If you wonder, they are the web novel version of the arc, which is the superior one

>Do I have to start from the beginning because of the differences?
That would be optimal, but personally I would recommend skipping the first vol since I don't really like that arc that much. Vol 2 starts the mansion arc. And after Vol 7 they edited the LN to be like the anime which isn't good, I don't recommend that anyone reads after vol 7, they should just use the anime to fill the blanks between that and the start of the WN translations.

If you want to continue after the anime, it has to be the WN as there are no LN translations and the LN really really fucking sucks after Vol 7. If you choose this route there are a few cut scenes you should read.

LN vols 1-7
mega.nz/#F!KkEAGCqS!xoPEC1isMhJSjHFsEGOkTA
Also whoever owns that mega, thank you for including vol 7. It was getting tiresome having to link two megas.

repost of one of my old posts

>what are the differences between the WN and the LN?
The LN tones down characterization, foreshadowing, world building, straight up cuts content out, and past Vol 7 it takes influence from the anime which makes it cut way way more and drastically changes the structure of events. The WN is superior, except that it will never have official translations into english.
>fan translations
arc 1, none (LN 1)
arc 2, none (LN 2,3)
arc 3, none (LN 4,5,6,7,8) {End of Anime}
arc 4, complete WN translations (LN 9 -15?)
arc 5, is over half way complete (fuck the LNs)
arc 6, some chapters here and there highlighting some good scenes
All LNs here, fuck kadokawa
mega.nz/#F!KkEAGCqS!xoPEC1isMhJSjHFsEGOkTA

Even though you have watched the anime, I'll still recommend you to read the LN to Vol 7, its still pretty good as far as isekei LNs I have read. It actually isn't that bad as I made it seem (until vol 8) and you get most of the things the anime left out and also able to get a better perspective on Subaru's character.

most translations can be found here, its a little hard to use
docs.google.com/document/d/1_wOtTltdwZhHK0UKaV1AelPcA-K70SdWPcY3FTBJGnA/mobilebasic

If you want to jump to where the anime left off, start with Arc 4. I strongly advise you to start with user's interlude (the part you start with) because his doesn't skip a chapter like Translation Chicken. Translation Chicken's translations are higher quality and more polished than user's but he hasn't finished Arc 4 like user has. Start with user's interlude, then switch to Translation Chicken or just keep with user's like I do. Also user's translation gets way better the farther into the Arc because I guess they were learning as they went. If you care about the quality of translations stick with Translator Chicken.

He’s right.

okay, where is the harem, the baddies the MC is better than because he is so smart, the wish fulfillment, the cheat skill, etc

So is the entire point of Emilia just a bait and switch? I find that somewhat underwhelming but who cares what I think.

>Every possible scene Subaru would show his feelings for Rem they have done away with. The ones they couldn't cut were changed to be more ambiguous. They are absolutely retconning Subaru's feelings for Rem even though the source material doesn't allow it.


This makes no sense. The confession from vol 7 is still there. Subaru says his feelings for her are the same as Rem. Japanese fandom don't give a shit about polygamy because common as in WNs. The only thing against this has just been nitpicks that don't change the meaning of what is said at all. Even his thoughts about in her in the LN are same the WN.

Some of ya just jumping on pins and needles for no reason which influenced by still pushing monogamy and waifuism.

>The confession from vol 7 is still there. Subaru says his feelings for her are the same as Rem.
I doubt in volume 7 he tells that to emilia when he meets emilia in volume 9

I'm talking about Arc 4.

learn english

No I'm talking about the Flugel tree scene and fake death confession.

Subaru's line loving both just as much is in vol 10

I know the point is that meaning is still the same. Even Emilia is like do realize what your saying and he's like yeah.

Except that the WN and LN fanbases are clearly divided now and they consider the LN and WN to be different stories at this point.

Do you know of the changes in Arc 4?

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But that was skipped in the anime because that volume was written without the anime in mind, before it finished airing.
Volume 9-10 and onwards was made with the anime in mind and there is where every rem scene started getting raped
read the thread

>[Rem: Say “I love you”…]
>Rem spilled these words out with a faint, frail voice while looking up at Subaru.
>In her vision which had become blurred by the swell of tears that gushed up, she saw Subaru shake his head. After that, Subaru brought his face close to her and said,
>[Subaru: I love you(suki da)]
>[———–]
>[Subaru: I love you(daisuki da). Isn’t that obvious…If you aren’t with me, I can’t live on…]
>It was his true feelings. If you were to say that this was when he spilled everything out, that wouldn’t be an exaggeration and would be an accurate statement. If it wasn’t for her, he wouldn’t come this far. >If she were to disappear, he would not be able to live on.
>[Rem: Ahhh…I’m happy…]
>Accepting Subaru’s confession, Rem felt a tear alongside her closed eyes. Taking in Subaru’s words happily, her face quickly blushed. Soon after, it now really did seem that all power within her body had departed.
>[Subaru: Wait…]
>[Rem: I love you(aishiteimasu), Subaru-kun]
>[Subaru:Don’t fuck with me, stay by my side. You’re going to leave me with regrets again!?]
>Subaru could not bear to live in a near future where Rem would cease to exist. Along with knowing this fact since long ago, her existence still has become sooo much more important to him, compared to long ago. So,
>[Subaru: In the future where I talk while smiling, I need you…I don’t want this]
>[Rem: In that future, is it okay if I stay by your side?]
>[Subaru: ….Isn’t the answer obvious? I won’t let you go to anyone else’s side.]
>Wiping off her tears that were suspended on her eyelids, Subaru looked straight at Rem and said:
>[Subaru: You are mine. I won’t let anyone have you.]
>[Rem: Proposal accepted!]
>[Subaru: Heh?]
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That was fast

This is now a teeth thread.

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>I know the point is that meaning is still the same. Even Emilia is like do realize what your saying and he's like yeah.
The meaning is the same to you, because you have read both scenes (LN and WN) and you had read the Vol 7 scenes. If you had not, the meaning would not be the same.

But we aren't talking about that scene, at least I'm not. I'm talking about the bigger picture. The scenes where Subaru sits at Rem's bedside for example. The one at the end of the interludes is unrecognizable now, and the one about his heart being covered with iron is too.

my fastest was like 17 seconds after

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Now with the 2nd season coming, the porn scene will finally come alive again, cant wait to see more Emilia scenes, maybe even an victim girls doujin with Emilia as the main star.

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good thread

why the fuck is this so hot?

re:ero

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why were arc 6 chapters 10-35 mostly skipped? what do i need to know before jumping to 36?

Oh they'll use her alright...in merchandising. But that's about it. I bet they'll make lots of figures and ads with Rem while only giving the vague hint of her coming back and making extra scenes of Moblia spinning in new dresses for the adaptation. Just you wait and screenshot this.

I love this oni!

>Watanabe: That’s a tough question. People will get mad at me no matter who I say (laughs). But I suppose that Rem’s role in the story is that of a sub-heroine, while Emilia is the main heroine. I directed episode 1 myself and did as much as I could to enhance her presence in the scenes to make up for her lack of screen time. I’d change her outfits and made sure she gave off a strong impression. As far as I’m concerned, the heroine is Emilia, but perhaps nobody will believe me when I say that. After all, Rem clearly acts more like a heroine (laughs). But please don’t forget the scenes that showcase Emilia as the heroine (laughs).
>Suehiro: I liked Rem when I was reading the novel, but when I watched the anime, the director’s experiments paid off. The scenes where Emilia’s outfit changes or when she lets her hair down are forever branded in my head.
>Watanabe: Seriously?!
>Suehiro: I thought, “Emilia sure is cute. She’s a bona fide heroine.”
here is the guy behind all the changes, doing his job so they accept emilia as the main heroine by giving her cute scenes and dresses and skipping all rem scenes possible, say something nice to him

>how can I improve Emilia’s popularity?
>I know, just give her some outfits instead of enhancing her character or development!

>Skip every remxsubaru scene to make them look like "extremely good friends" instead of lovers and give muh waifu 100 dresses while she does cute things. That will show them know who the main heroine is!
Pathetic

We all love her!

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The absolute state of emiliafags

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It's not fair! Why can't Emilia get some development too? I don't hate Rem but I don't like how it seems Emilia is just...there. Ugh.

I want to give Rem a remjob

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She develops in arc 4 to then become irrelevant again. The fact that in arc 5 and 6 a vegetable has more influence over subaru's character than her says a lot

At this rate, I wonder if it's intentional.

Cute fangs

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>imagine thinking Re:Zero is bad simply because it's popular.

damn brainlets

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I wanna see more teeth stuff

finger_in_another's_mouth

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Ty

>why were arc 6 chapters 10-35 mostly skipped?
I think it's because at the time that chapter 36 was translated, that was the latest chapter. Essentially fans wanted to know what was happening in the latest update so they translated that chapter, this kept happening until today so the chapters between 10 and 35 have been skipped. Pretty sure they're eventually gonna be bridged when arc 5 is finished though.

He should kill himself. Which faggot would be a better replacement to direct the anime adaptation?

This, It's bad because of many reasons, not just because it's popular.

I keep going back and forth on whether I think it is or not. My opinion for is that he's otherwise a fairly solid writer and has thought through a lot of his concepts, at least in a big picture sense, and he keeps adding things to ground to story a little bit make it not just end up being the same pile of cliches that he also seems to be a little tired of. It's possible in this case that when he talks about how great Emilia is he's either being tongue-in-cheek a little or just thinking about the finalized version of Emilia that's in his head but we aren't there yet.
For against it's not that uncommon for writers to just stumble into something good and not really realize what they have. In this case I think he does actually realize it, but the problem comes from him trying to hard to get people to see Emilia a certain way (he's stated she's the hardest character for him to write because everything he's doing is so precise for her, while Otto is the easiest because he barely gives a fuck) and that the other characters flow more naturally because well... they flow more naturally, and he's actually sort of an idiot savant who could make Emilia better if he cared less about her being his ultimate waifu.

INTENSE FRIENDSHIP

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Who's that? Is that a fanfic version of Ram with bigger tits?

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Reminder that Rem is, and always will be, best girl.

youtube.com/watch?v=dRgdjDuWkv8

>ITT: Remfags mourning the fact that Rem will never escape from the fact that she killed Subaru in cold blood in the earlier timelines and the multiverse will never forgive her

Karma's a bitch. Deal with it.

She only really has eyes and teeth like that when her dick is out, so where's the dong?

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So then is Emilia irrelevant because she let her contracted pussy kill Subaru more times than any other character except Elsa?

Spoken like a true secondary

>animeonly
>that post
Back to animemes with your I love emilia edits.

No, because that wasn't targeted. Everyone dies in those timelines. Very different circumstances.

>he's actually sort of an idiot savant who could make Emilia better if he cared less about her being his ultimate waifu.
I honestly believe this is the case, if he wasn't such a tryhard about it and gave her some actual fucking human flaws like he does with literally every other character then she'd be 100% more interesting.
>Otto is the easiest because he barely gives a fuck
Otto is also on almost everyone's top 10 or even top 5 characters even if he's never 1st place because of how likeable of a character he is.

Her horn is her dong.

>since arc 4 started
>volume 9

>he wasn't targeted
He was targeted along everyone here. Emilia's pussy is a jerk, but they didn't show it in the anime because director is also a puckfag

Either way, pretty sure that Emilia didn't tell Puck to go on an apocalyptic rampage in the event of her death. She bears no responsibility for his actions. It is strange how Puck doesn't seem to be getting punished in later timelines like the rest of Subaru's murderers, though- maybe that comes later?

He was specifically targeted. Puck specifically sought him out, berated him for it and killed for for exactly stated reasons. The only time Puck does not specifically yell at him is the first time where he shatters from touching the door and doesn't see Puck.
Emilia both knows and accepts that will happen if she dies, it was the terms of the contract she accepted, and that's the contract from HER end. Puck's exchange is that he gets to style her hair every day.

>She bears no responsibility for his actions.
She specifically contracted him to do specifically that in the event of her death. He brought it up literally in episode 1 and she knows exactly what he will do and why. And again, that's her 'benefit' from the contract, that's what Puck is obligated to do as per the terms set out on her end, her obligation to him is letting her style her hair daily.

Seriously? I don't remember that, and I don't think Emilia ever took that promise literally, either. Especially with that pathetic "obligation". Strapping a magical Mutually Assured Destruction nuke to her back sounds horribly out of character for Emilia.

I do agree that Puck is overdue for misery and has been getting off way too easy... I do hope Emilia gets pissed at him and cuts him out of her life for a prolonged period at some point.

>Everyone dies in those timelines.
Roswaal is fine. And if 'everyone dies so it's okay for Puck to kill everyone because they were already dead' is an excuse for Emilia, the only time Rem ever killed Subaru he was already dying from dogs aids. And Subaru was at no risk of dying from anything other than Puck in all of those timelines, the witch cult leaves him alone and doesn't care what he does and actually thinks he's kind of cool. So if by 'everyone was already dead' then in the timeline where Rem actually killed Subaru the village was in the process of being half killed because the same time Subaru's curse goes off so does the curse on all the village children, and the village will subsequently be attacked and mostly slaughtered.

>gave subaru his first lap nap
>kills subaru multiple times
>trashtalks him and his veggie waifu while giving zero fucks
>echidna sucks his dick, probably satella, pandora and the rest of witches too.
>friends with flugel, fluent in english, probably masters every dialect.
>adopts a dumb elf as daughteru and makes her his bitch even though he is supposed to be his spirit
>sees beakko pantsu daily
>btfos rooswald in a shonen battle.
>makes lizardman use his sword
>fucks off and gets away with everything
>probably was aryan
>anime will make him look like a good guy
Whats on store for him Yea Forums?

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It went like this
>Hey Lia, join up with me and become a magical girl. I'll be your pal, regulate your unruly mana and if you ever die, I'll fucking kill everyone! Doesn't that sound great?
And she's like
>Yeah, that sounds great Mr. Cat, what do you want in exchange?
>Just wear cute dresses and be generally cute and let me style your hair how I want everyday!
>OH BOY, I can't wait for all the cool stuff we'll do together, I guess I'll just try not to die, tee hee.
And she takes promises 1000000% literally and 100000000000% seriously. She has religiously worn the things Puck tells her to wear and styles her hair the way Puck tells her to do so, even after he fucks off. Her absolute biggest beef with Subaru is that he will not stop breaking promises he makes to her.

>btfos rooswald in a shonen battle.
He gets fucked up in that though. As far as the actual fight is concerned, Roswaal nukes both him and Ram.
He's probably Flugel or Emilia's actual dad turned into a stupid cat by Echidna. And as we all know Flugel is Subaru and Subaru is also Puck, and also Al, but also Subaru's dad so really he's all those guys turned into a stupid cat.

>whats on store for him
Fucking off until endgame.

>friends with flugel
More like he is alt timeline flugel just like satella is alt timeline emilia.
Al is also probably connected to that

If this is a thing that actually happens in a flashback later then I'm dropping out of this series entirely, because holy FUCK does that knock a giant fucking hole in the plot.
Especially since Puck didn't seem to mind when the Bowel hunter bitch vivisected Emilia.

>Getting stuffed inside a MAGIC ROCK until endgame
FTFY
What's even the plot of why they go to arc 5 if the magic teleport rock is cool enough for Puck to fuck off in?

>friends with flugel, fluent in english
I've seen this referenced, but I don't remember anything like that from the WN?

I like the theory of he being pandora's brother more. His human self also having grey hair is arguable but I doubt his eyes weren't blue. I agree on Al being flugel though. His face always hidden already makes you suspicious

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>mind when the Bowel hunter bitch vivisected Emilia.
He totally does. Its just Subaru also dies/is dying when that happens so you only see the aftermath later when Subaru is shown some stuff that happens after each time he's died. Puck shows up and he's super pissed and tries to kill Elsa but she's incredibly hard to kill and just cheeses it. There's always a delay from when Emilia dies (thus severing his link and ability to manifest near her as a cat) and when he can manually haul his fat spirit ass over to where her corpse is and fuck everyone up. That's why Subaru can sit there for hours after he's accidentally gotten Satella to kill Emilia and Puck only actually arrives even later, he's gotta travel. It's actually a bit nebulous whether it's Puck or Emilia that froze him to death the first time with an automatic spell, but Subaru at least still credits that to Puck, though Emilia might not even be dead yet in that timeline. But later it takes Subaru quite some time to haul Rem over to the mansion and by that point Puck has shown up there and tells him off and kills him because Emilia is dead.

Also there's at least one plothole added to the LN because of this. in WN Puck is obligated to not harm or fight the witch cult, for some unexplained reason, but it's part of his contract with Echidna. Once Emilia dies that releases and he can fuck up whoever he wants and boy is he mad about that. But in the LN Emilia still dies repeatedly even though Puck should be able to fight back against the cult without just letting Emilia die, and as shown in the anime, not only can he kill the cult himself, if he's supporting Emilia they can also just straight fight Pete. But while this tidbit seems to have been changed in the LN the plot structure hasn't, so it becomes a hole. (Also the loop where she fights Pete with Puck and beats him was added in the LN to make it seem like she does things)

I dont remember exactly when, but puck speaks english in one of the chapters

Thats kinda hot

Okay guys, what if Emilia's dad is a whore (he's an elf, this is almost redundant), and Pandora cares about Satella because Satella is her child with Emilia's dad, and Emilia's mom is Minerva, making the similarity between Emilia and Satella due to them being half-sisters and her dad's strong, fuckboy elf genetics.

There's a leak model sheet for Al's face, he's just kind of a guy. IIRC he looks more like the appa vendor than anyone.

Cannot unsee now. Also pandora was the one that fucked emilia's life and caused her to freeze and puck the one to unfreeze her

Interesting can you find the picture? Also was it in black/white or colored?

Technically Emilia caused herself to freeze, though she was doing in response to Pandora being a massive bitch. All Pandora did to her was seal her memories away so she remembers the events incorrectly.

I love Emilia.

And the fact that he speaks english is extrapolated to mean that he's a friend of Flugel, then?

Yeah, honestly I can't wait to see that animated. Amazing how such a boring character can have such an interesting story behind her

I think it's a failed timeline Subaru. Only he gets as fucked up due to extreme failures and handling dangerous magic.

Yeah. Him knowing flugel is just a theory created from that, shaula also knows english

Nope, I apparently didn't save it, so have a screen shot of a thumbnail since the link 404'd. He's just kind of a sort of rugged dude with some scarring.

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Looks like a very punished dilf subaru

Uuuuuugh... God that's stupid.

I cannot begin to express how fucking ruined this whole goddamn series is for me knowing Emilia consented to a contract like that

THE ENTIRE POINT OF HAVING A M.A.D. DOOMSDAY WEAPON IS TO TELL EVERYONE IT'LL GO OFF IF YOU'RE ATTACKED!!! THERE'S NO GOOD REASON TO KEEP THAT A FUCKING SECRET OR JUST CASUALLY SLIP IT IN IN WHAT SOUNDS LIKE STANDARD HYPERBOLE!!!

Jesus Christ I've never felt so angry at a fictional character's stupidity. This completely ruins the entire reason Subaru got involved in the whole goddamn affair in the first place by making Emilia ABSURDLY reckless and selfish.

He doesn't have the right eyes. If nothing else Subaru would keep his sanpaku eyes.

inb4 it's Kararagi Subaru

Colored. His hair looks purple-ish in the photo, but I think the consensus is that it's just the lighting.

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Calm down regulus

Interesting theory, but if he's literally Emilia's father like he implies, then wouldn't that make him Fortuna's brother? Or are you saying that Fortuna and her brother weren't related by blood?

Well, it's a fair assumption.
He does have sanpaku eyes, though? You can clearly see the white of his eyes below his irises.

She's not exactly selfish or reckless, she's incredibly, incredibly stupid. She basically wakes up with bad/no memories, she's effectively about 7 or 8 mentally, but she's a sheltered child who just got a taste of harsh reality. I believe there's also some level of duress involved in her agreeing as if nothing else she has no other friends or anything to talk to and the local villages are scared of her. That said, she does fully understand what the contract entails, and you can't force a contract on someone, so she willingly agreed to it maybe in the hope that she'd just try not to die or something.
Also in case you didn't notice, Subaru's reasoning for getting involved and staying involved has been dumb bullshit ten times over. It's a combination of his dumb selfish pride, fear of being totally alone, and eventually (like arc 3 after Rem's speech eventually) genuine concern for the people around him. He basically pursues Emilia for two reasons: 1 - He said he was going to. For stupid reasons to start (she's pretty much his ideal waifu appearance-wise, and somewhat personality-wise), then mostly still stupid reasons (she owes him that sweet elf poon because he's the awesome isekai protag) then finally... to find out for what reason he should pursue Emilia while also trying to not let her die? and 2 - Because Rem told him to. Part of her speech to him in From Zero was to not give up on himself and what he's working towards, she knew that meant chasing Emilia, he knew that and that's why he says 'I Love Emilia'. It's as much an acknowledgement of what Rem said to him as it is something to leave her with no mistake about what he's doing. And that's why she pretty much files it under 'consideration' and keeps after him and tries to suck his face off like 2 days later.

Kararagi Subaru doesn't really look like him at all, though. Actually, the person he most closely resembles is Kenichi.

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I might be a little tired, yeah he's still got them. His eyebrows are more defined, but that could be whatever. I know when Subaru gets mad and runs off he does style his hair sort of like that to mimic Wilhelm, but I dunno. I figure any explanation about Al is going to be absolutely ridiculous.

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An interesting theory. Except, according to Fortuna, Emilia's face most resembles her mother, not her father.

Counterpoint: 99% of girls in this have the same face because the artist can't into faces.

There are still so many things wrong with Emilia's whole character with the factvthat she KNOWS she's a walking WMD. Why the fuck is she walking around urban areas like it's no fucking big deal? Isn't she supposed to care about the civilians? If so, why the hell is she walking around unprotected where any old lunatic could stab her? Why is she still in the running for the priestess ruler position where she'll be targeted for assassination? DOES SHE OR DOES SHE NOT CARE ABOUT LITERALLY ANYONE ELSE?! IT'S FUCKING CONTRADICTORY AS FUCK! IT MAKES NO GODDAMN SENSE! THESE ARE NOT THE ACTIONS OF A RESPONSIBLE PERSON WHO KNOWS AN ICE NUKE WILL DETONATE IF THEY ARE KILLED!

Ironically due to how round they are, Rem and Ram share their basic face structure with these things.

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Fair. But, do you mean to say that Minerva got it on with her best friend's dad? Does that sound like something Tappei would write?

The answer to all of these moral problems in the world of Re:Zero is, "No worries, Reinhard will deal with it."

>Why the fuck is she walking around urban areas like it's no fucking big deal?
She's an idiot. Seriously. Emilia is an idiot is a big part of her character. Not even trash talking, she's legitimately stupid on account of being actually, literally retarded. Her mental age at this point is generously 14, except she's so naive and sheltered that other characters that age like Felt are more mature, and there have been numerous characters younger (Petra, Annerose, young Rem and Ram) that are more reasonable and responsible.
>Isn't she supposed to care about the civilians?
She's quite impulsive, so no, not really. Most characters don't make a big deal of this, but Tappei's twitter icon isn't Emilia as a Berserker from FGO for no reason. Her sin is Wrath and she loses her shit and does stupid stuff, in episode 1 the civvies started complaining because she hurled snowballs in a crowded market at Felt without any major concern for them and they got spooked.
>Why is she still in the running for the priestess ruler position where she'll be targeted for assassination?
She's been kept largely out of the loop. She thinks people don't like her because they're racist. And they are, but the reason for that is that Pete and Pals have spent the last 100 years or so casually massacring people if they even so much as smell an elf living near them. So knows next to nothing about the Witch Cult, both Puck and Roswaal (by extension Rem and Ram, who intimately hate the Cult, but follow orders) keep her in the dark for their own ends.
She's determined to see this through for her own reasons and she's stubborn. Make no mistake, she considers her reason for running incredibly selfish because it's phenomenally stupid. The anime does a bad job of presenting what each candidate was actually doing and why, but Emilia wants to win so she can get access to dragon blood that the royal family may or may not have had so she can use it's magic to unfreeze all the elves she froze.

That does literally nothing to resolve the fact that Emilia's entire character is fucking self-contradictory. She can't be concerned about the state of the people while walking around their city centers with an armed nuke.

Depends on how Tappei actually feels about this polygamy thing Subaru is pushing towards.

Well, I don't mind the idea that Satella and Emilia are sisters, in any case.

Post got to long above, but Emilia has a kind of general concern for people but is mostly too stupid to understand her own actions. She's more selfish than she is concerned about other people, in the sense that she'll stick with this even if it keeps endangering others, although part of that will go into point two which is: she's more cowardly and self-loathing than she is nice. This is somewhat changing in later volumes as she starts to develop slowly, so very, very slowly, but she was easily convinced to not help defend the mansion and get on a cart with a bunch of literal children to 'defend' her. Before that she was easily convinced, presumably by Ram, to escape down the secret escape route in the mansion while again, literal children and a very crippled maid attempt to hold off an army for her.
The LN/anime try and add some stuff to make her seem more concerned, but I feel like that misses a point. And one of those points is that Subaru is an unreliable narrator who doesn't see Emilia for what she actually is until late into arc 4, and even then he still thinks far more highly of her and her intentions than he probably should. So half the time you hear 'Emilia is the kindest' it's bullshit Subaru is shoving on her. She is a nice person, in a broad, boring sense, but there's other parts to her character that Subaru refuses to see or acknowledge, like her being a scared, clueless little girl in a hot 100-year old elf body.

Ignorance, reckless stupidity, naive faith/gullibility, and incredibly myopic goals...
All to avoid Emilia being an outright malevolent person.

...seems... awfully excessive to avoid the fact that Emilia might just be an awful person, objectively.

Also her royal selection speech in the anime focuses on her doing a 'equality' spiel like she's a communist or something. In other media her speech more accurately focuses on that they shouldn't be racist to her specifically just for being a half-elf and she has only broad, vague ideas that everyone should just kind of be nice to each other, but that isn't the focus or point of her speech, which is to establish her candidacy, and her candidacy is basically built on 'Well I qualify and I'm running so deal with it and don't try to sabotage me because you're racist assholes'

One weird problem I have with the series as a whole, is that while there are asshole characters, the racism that Emilia is supposedly subject to doesn't really seem to come up much or even at all really besides maybe Bordeuax giving her lip. Pretty much every other character doesn't really care that much as far as mainline stuff is concerned (Rem and Ram actually have their problems with her, Rem for more knee-jerk racist-y reasons, Ram because Ram hates idiots and Emilia is an idiot and Ram really hates having to rely on idiots because she's crippled and can't fix the problems she has on her own, which is similar to how she feels about Subaru. But you only get that sort of stuff in side material)

>fact, objectively
Oof

She is kind of an awful person, but it's an awfulness born of cowardice and ignorance rather than outright maliciousness. My hope is that these are points to be addressed similar to Subaru and Rem's own flaws and not simply 'selling points' because the author thinks stupid girls are moe. By arc 4 some of her own ignorance is broken down but it still doesn't go a whole lot of anywhere even by arc 6. But if she's supposed to be the main heroine her final decisions and growth and such are endgame-type material and the story is slated for 11 arcs. I hope that this isn't a cliche like 'The real nice person was in you all along if you believe in yourself Emilia!' and then it ends and that similar to Subaru and Rem we get some character growth a good bit before the end and then get to see what she's supposedly learned or how she's changed in action for a bit. A lot of anime cuck out of showing what all this growth was supposed to be for and it's infuriating.

>because the author thinks stupid girls are moe
But user didn’t you like how she didn’t know about the witch cult, how babies are made, or even what being a Virgin is?

As in "not tainted by either the author or Subaru's excuses", smartass

I'm pretty sure people don't know what would happen if you killed Emilia and if they did they'd be doubly concerned about letting her walk around. They're already concerned about any surprise visits from Uncle Pete because of her, I can't imagine how much more on edge they'd be if they actually knew she explodes.
But I guess it's a bit of a moot point now since Puck fucked off so he can't come trying to be a faggot anymore.

I like how she counts stairs. Getchu a girl that counts stairs man, that's where it's at. Snowball throwing a definite plus.

>But I guess it's a bit of a moot point now since Puck fucked off so he can't come trying to be a faggot anymore
but now they acquired the satella nuke, everytime shit's fucked for subaru and he accidentally lets things slip satella comes and nukes the entire area.

Fill me in on the stairs meme. I’ve seen it in this threads a few times but never the context

I think it was that she counted stairs for one of the trials at the Pleiades tower in arc 6.

>Excuses
Emilia is basically "What if we put an innocent character in a setting and under certain circunstances so that with only her naive behaviour everything would result in a disaster": The character.

In arc 6 it's revealed that she compulsively counts stairs. This comes up to explain that a staircase skipped an entire floor because of how many steps they went up and they actually went from the 1st to 3rd floor or something like that.

why would anyone be aroused by this kind of picture haha ha ha

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>(Also the loop where she fights Pete with Puck and beats him was added in the LN to make it seem like she does things)
Well, she actually did fight Pete in the WN. It was just a little more brutal.

He has a trauma about doing that. The arc 4 thing was a super accident since he didn't realize Satella can still hear him and who knows what Satella is doing in arc 6 or why. Also hilariously I think Tappei said his punishment is specifically killing Emilia, so everytime he blabs, no matter who it's directed at, Satella will go hunt down and murder Emilia.

>In arc 6 it's revealed that she compulsively counts stairs.
My sides

That's a different fight though isn't it? Pete also has sweet super moves to bust out that got axed.

Saliva is the best.

How will the LN ruin her?

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Pretty sure what Tappei said was more along the lines of, "up until now that's only happened to Emilia, so don't go assuming it would happen to anyone he spoke the words to."

lolify her, just like how they did with pandora.

That's way less funny than having a 'kill Emilia' button though.

Squirrelface, stupid random circles and lines everywhere, ponytail that doesn't resemble a scorpion tail at all.

Wasn't Pandora always described as sort of whispy and rail thin?

We're finally going home, lads.

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I think Pandora’s design is actually good though

>Saliva is the best.

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Alternate version concerning this thread.

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Home, sweet home.

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Well, the fight happened completely differently, yes. Pete actually uses magic.

She needs to be Puck's sister so I can call them Pancho and Paco.

>Pancho and Paco.

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Yeah, but (((he))) should be criticised for using a reddit meme instead of calling them a virgin neckbeard like Yea Forums used to call them.
Incel sounds like SJW roastie cancer.

>that post
>that image

Oh shit nigger what are you doing?

>That's way less funny than having a 'kill Emilia' button though.
Is that what it does?

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witchculttranslation.com/2019/03/29/arc-5-chapter-60-one-ending-one-battle/

Chapter 60 out. Al vs Lust begins

sweet, thanks Discount.

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Cum in oni