The Promised Neverland 129

The sad part is that Norman is right and Emma just has MC's reasoning plot armor.

NORMAN GOOD
DEMON BAD
GENOCIDE NOW

That look of pure disgust.

Emma is right. Not getting themselves stuck in the middle of an all out massacre is the best route.

Getting all the demons destroyed is objectively the best route, only way to avoid future problems.

looks like ray x Emma is endgame bros

>*subjectively
It'll get a shitload of the kids caught in the crossfire in the process.

Shit, so that's what the 4s meant.

In contrast to Emma's way which is only going to work because she's the MC?
Realistically, most demons would still eat kids.

>ray
I'll let it slide for this, but I hope no one thinks that Emma' not going to save her husbando from himself.

So with the way these last few chapters have been going, what are the odds of a bad end where they don't all survive and never get their happily ever after family? All of this seems like one Norman death flag after another.

>is only going to work because she's the MC?
Are you implying it's not logical? Doing all that without a single kid getting hurt or dying, that's the biggest stretch. Going to the human world is the best thing.

Is this metaphorical or literal?
Is he actually a skellington?

Norman's plan could work, but it requires everything going perfectly and the demon civil war to last as long as possible. If anyone in the noble families start suspecting what's really going on or if Giran get defeated quickly, the whole plan fail and Norman is left with 4 dudes against an army

In the chances of any of the main three dying, I'd say 1%, being WSJ. Though yeah, Norman can't hold all those deathflags.

Literal. He drank all of his Halloween juice to fight the titans.

Metaphorical.

Norman will do nothing wrong

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Only emma to throw mama off, the others used the devize ray made

>All of this seems like one Norman death flag after another.
Not really, all the more because he's already "died" once, so we've already dealt with the emotional fallout of that. He has more future-healing-from-Emmaflags than anything.
I can't believe Lambda juice was bone juice all along!

Metaphorical.
Norman has no bones, that's why he's so pathetically weak.

Barbara a cute!

>神にでも悪魔にでも悦んでなるよ
My Japanese is pretty rusty, but think this means "I'll be fine with becoming a God and I'll be fine with becoming the Devil"

i can be your angle...or yuor devil

But what has he done to make him say that he is also a devil?

m'lady

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MS's mistranslation of the boat out of mud metaphor is seeming weirdly prophetic.

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>your angle
Can he bent 90 degrees, or hell break his spine?

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NORMAN A GOOD BOY
>i’m not losing my way or anything like that
>everything from the beginning, all my decisions, all of them were burdens i had to bear
>rei and emma are kind, but you can’t win in this world with just kindness
>in reality, if i hadn’t been chosen to be shipped out, i wonder if everyone could’ve done the jailbreak
>i have no regrets
>i want to save them! emma, cislo, and all of our friends!
>if it’s for that reason...
>i’ll happily become a god or a devil
>emma

>I-I’m not losing my way or anything like that
Poor thing.

That's in response to fodderboy asking him that in

>genocide is back on the menu
Based

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>back
It was never off the menu, Norman literally said last chapter he had no intention of stopping or delaying his plans.
Though we all know it was never an option to start with in this manga and endgame will either be coexistance or escape to the human world.

FUCK, EMMA

Norman is HOT.

>as soon as Norman gets up and face s up or away from Emma he's one step away from 4/shi/death

Pottery

Norman is objectively right and Emma is a spoiled brat who didn't pay enough to start questioning her foolish dreams

>What you’re saying about demons is wrong!
>It’s wrong isn’t it?!
>Boss you’re on our side right?
>Boss is still the Boss right?
>You’re not losing your way?

>This little redhead has cursed my dick so now I must descend into hell

>The numbers 4 and 9 are considered unlucky in Japanese because し (shi) and く (ku) sound the same as the words for death (死, shi) and agony (苦, ku)

>Ray stepping towards agony
>Emma occupying the 9 step preventing Ray from trowing himself in despair but still anchored on 8
>Norman doomed to die steps up and Emma cannot do anything to stop him since she's behind him

Is this Norman posting? Fuck off and just hug her back.

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So in short, ray X Emma is happening.

>Although slightly less well-known, eight is also a lucky number. This is due to its shape – 八. Called suehirogari (末広がり), it's lucky because it widens at the bottom which reminds one of prosperity and growth.

Emma confirmed to bring prosperity and growth to the world

Also 1 + 3 = 4. Posuka couldn't have made it clearer.

Barbara, you'll never have a shot with Norman, stop trying to mess with Ray's ship.
And get Vincent to help you figure out how capitalisation works while you're at it.

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>74-30=44
>118-74=44
>Norman literally appears after exactly 44 chapters both times
>this is why we never got a Lambda escape arc

DEMONS GOOD
HUMANS BAD
GAS THE CHILDREN RACE WAR NOW

La más profunda tradición.

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can i get tldr for the story
i remember reading up to their escape and when they got assisted by pair of demons, who wished for the humans to live naturally so they could hunt them again because they're natural prey

>fighting for your life bad
>submission good
>genocide bad
>pursuing a suicidal coexistence with predators good
>facts and logic bad
>emotions and feelings good
what the did the author mean by this?

Is this how you read it?

This is how brainlets read it.

>can't defend my point
>better use personal insults then
every time

woah there trips, now who do I agree with?

trips confirm
These brainlets should fuck off with their shitty reading comprehension.
The conflict between Emma and Norman is basically utilitarianism vs a more ethical approach, not facts vs emotions. It's not like Emma just talk-no-jitsu'd Norman, she's being made to prove her way with results.

It's pretty obvious Norman will die at the end to make a sacrifice or something

That already happened, I don't think they will repeat the same sequence but just for real this time.

you seem to forget how humans from the human world dont give a single shit about the cattle kids and they would be persecuted, arrested and returned to the demon world, just to avoid a new war against the demons
norman plan is the best, there will be casualties no matter what you do so its better to take the path with the best outcome

Literally the last chapter they talked about Emma's plan being extremely unrealistic and how no one who went for that plan has ever gotten back alive. She's going to manage it just because she's the MC.

>you seem to forget how humans from the human world dont give a single shit about the cattle kids
We don't even know if the know about the demon world, just assumptions.
>the path with the best outcome
Which is Emma's.

>pretty obvious
No way, they wouldn't let exactly the same scenario of Norman trying to sacrifice himself happen the same way again.
He'll try to, and Emma will save him this time,

Nah he'll try to yet again but this time Emma will succeed in saving and healing him.

>Emma's plan being extremely unrealistic
It's not unrealistic at all, she's just climbing the Everest, people has done it before, people have failed before, it's just not easy.

>hurrrr humans have been in war against the demons for thousands of years hurr
>duurrr we aint know shit about demons lmao hurrr
of course they know, you think the ratri clan just erased demons from their memory? remember how minerva had a lot of human allies (who are now dead) in the human world?
>the best plan is emma's
no. unless she can asspull a way for all demons to survive eating normal food instead of human meat coexistence is impossible. also lot of demons have a boner for hunting humans as a sport, so you will have to get rid of those and there will be casualties anyways

>Which is Emma's.
The story hasn't framed Emma's as the best outcome as Norman and even Ray have both pointed out holes in the logistics of it. Musica and the 7 walls is a hazy path with too much uncertainty.

Stormin Norman's war plan at least has it's foundation built right now and a clear objective.

>hurrrr humans have been in war against the demons for thousands of years hurr
What? What's been thousands of years since the war ended, not thousands of years of war.
>unless she can asspull a way for all demons to survive eating normal food
Oh, you really haven't read it, then. Figures.

They specifically talk about it being hard and no one havibg managed to do it before. Emma herself says there might just be a 0.1 chance of success or something. It doesn't matter anyway because she's the MC, but it's presented as an unrealistic option by both Emma and Norman.

No one had ever reached Everest's peak until madlad Hillary did. If Ratri did it before, then it's clearly not impossible. Chances are between Ratri's founder and ER, no one had 500+ IQ.

and you think they will forget just like that? imagine forgetting about an evil species that hunted and ate humans for who knows how long and caused who know how many deaths and was so strong that human race had to make a truce with demons and give them children to eat

no enemies at all > the possibility of coexistence with a former enemy and predator based on a legend you are not sure if will work. of course emma is the MC and her MC powers will make it work but dont come and tell me thats the most rational path you can take

I wish we'd get to see more of the other plantations in detail, Goodwill Ridge seems to have some variancw and unique design while what little we've seen of Glory Bell and Grand Valley look like carbon copies of Grace field.

After thousands of years, we'd write it off as legend.

I want him to look at me with that expression so bad, Yea Forums

>Zazie is not a emontionless retarded doll.
Also did Emma and Ray go by themselves?

Why wouldn't they? From what little we know of the 7 walls, it's not like Norman's crew would be of much use.

I though Norman would lend them a fighting hand. Guess not. I think they'll Musica's absolute unit, anyway.

Reminder that this series will have an ending that is even more shit than Naruto's.

The series turned to shit so quickly.
And now shirai has to desperately dig away the shit he lay down with the biggest shovels he can find.

At least he has an artist who draws consistently inconsistent for him.

He appears after 37 chapters again you degenerate piece of shit.

>Emma is going to lose her legs.

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What are you on about, I was meh about most of Goldy Pond and post Goldy Pond felt rushed, but the last 10 or so chapters have been great. Reminding me of why I loved escape arc so much again.

Okay, 44 chapters between when we properly see his face on panel then.
Tbqh, I really hope it wasn't intentional because making chapter number symbolism should never dictate your plot.

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God I want Norman to fuck me

Yeah, me too

We know, Emma

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>First arc worth 37 chapters was enjoyable
>"The last 10 chapters out of 128 total were good again. What are you on about?"

Someone hasn't been paying attention to the writing. Shirai literally takes his writing on the go. And whenever Demizu draws something unfitting to his idea for the story, he changes the story to fit the drawings.

The bubble burst is gonna tear the anus of those that aren't woke.

Sometimes, I can’t decide whether I want him to fuck Emma or want him to fuck me.

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Muh symbolism.

Yet Ray is not dead despite him being shown with 1 + 3 on a clock in grace field.

It's simple: just BECOME Emma.

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I agree, but t. Ray

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No one's saying he's going to die, but those 4s were put there for a reason, (one would have been just a coincidence, but not 3 directly surrounding him, and the writers have literally said there's hints in the art for future plotpoints before.

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Genius. I love Emma anyway, I wouldn’t mind becoming her.

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Why does every shounen have to degenerate to this ball-less "if you kill the enemy they win" trudeau cuckholdry? Did canada annex japan when I wasn't looking?
>50 years ago, fucking suicide bombers and living under daily firebombings
>today
>can't even kill a monster in a fantasy story

>but not 3 directly surrounding him
>On the 13th volume
>where all clocks are set to 03:05
>and Norman himself looks like a 4
Now that too much a coincidence.

By spreading her bottom?

Killing demons promotes racism.
You don't want 10-14 yr kids to become racists, do you?

Ema is really unbearable these days. I want to drop this manga because of her.

>"if you kill the enemy they win" trudeau cuckholdry
Because it's a shown of how much a memed brainlet you are, since Trudeau asked to slow down on the bombing of civilians, so ISIS wouldn't use that as fuel for their propaganda.

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Nah, this confirms Norman x Emma is endgame - she’ll save him with the power of tru wuv as per cliche Shonen jump tropes.
Ray will continue to be irrelevant for 100 chapters

This. There's a reason rivalXmc ships are so popular, but this time its het, so it can actually be canon.
Norman has stolen both the rival and love interest roles, leaving Ray as irrelevant as the love interest in shounen, but without the compensation of ending up with the MC in the epilogue.

God, I can't stand Emma sconstant "suffering victim" face in the latest chapters. She didn't worry about her eaten siblings as much as she does about fucking DEMONS

t. speedreader
And she only got that desparate expression when Norman started talking about killing Musica, her friend.

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Killing Emma would save this manga.

The lambda experiments are dying.

His relevance, mom and paneltime is, however.

>last panel he literal goes MUH EMMA
Norman is a dumb waifufag!

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God please, will EmmaxNorman ruined and we never see Bemma?

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The crazier Norman gets the more likely NormanxEmma is happening
This is how all Shonen play out.

I’m still wondering where all the human things Norman (or was it Rey? I can’t remember anymore) got for snitching? It’s been a while but I believe that was never elaborated on. They even mentioned that all the devices were from a certain time in human history and not newer.

>I’m still wondering where all the human things Norman (or was it Rey? I can’t remember anymore) got for snitching?
If you genuinely don't remember that it was Ray, you need to read the series again. This is beyond speedreading, did you even read the series to begin with? How would it make sense for it to be Norman?

Yeah okay but @#&+! Seems to have actual magic and be some sort of god. How was Norman planning to appease him assuming it really some unkillable entity?

Probably going to offer him his body to eat

Milf intensifies

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Did her hair fall down in the Manga, too? I don't remember that.

Episode is out on dsgstng's VK site, fucking mods won't let me post the link.

its anime OG

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>when it goes in your butt

Feels good being a VKchad and a RussianCHAD

заплати за рекламу и смотри аниме! НЯ!

Nah, the true endgame is Emma x Musica

>the last 10 or so chapters have been great.
It's only great if you are dumb. Considering the giant plot armor of the main characters, Emma's talk no jutsu power and that Norman has "died" once and doing it again would be stupid, it is clear that nothing will have real consequences.

The author's writing style is very predictable.

Dropped the series many chapters ago but I see it's time to pick it up again

It is time to burn.

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At least post a better one.
>Heavy breathing Isabella.

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Thank fucking god they're showing Norman's PoV and not focusing on Emma and her boring adventures.
He really carries this Manga, holy shit.

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no one should have not seen this coming

>tfw want to mating press Isabella and give Ray a dozen non-autistic siblings
>tfw my mom is called Isabel
It's an awkward kind of feel.

Ray will be relevant next chapter, right?

We might get a scene or two of Emma giving her dog a treat

Who?

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>Emma's talk no jutsu power
Did you even read my comment? It doesn't count as talk-no-jitsu if she has to prove him wrong with actions and results rather than words (which failed), or if his own actions lead to his downfall.
And formula being predictable isn't bad on its own, plenty of the greatest literature ever is falls into set formulas and is predictable (obviously not saying this manga is near that level), its about HOW it happens that makes something effective.

Todays anime episode is the last time Ray will ever be relevant.

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There's still his second attempt at killing himself later

>tags: forced impregnation
>mindbreak

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So this episode sinks down Leslie being Ray's father for good. Some people actually believed that.

Her anime design is so fucking sexy.

Why, just why did they have to skip putting her inner monologue in her mama flashback? At least they showed her flashback of becoming a Mama at all but now it just seems like her motivation for being one was
>I DONT WANNA DIE!
Instead of how she was doing it because early death was pointless and she felt she had to do what she could so the future cattle children could live as long as possible within their timeframe through love and tutoring hence why she was considered the best of the best.
Also they just had to fuck up and make an anime original scene that Grandmother wasn't her original Mama even though it's shown in the flashback in the manga as well as the anime even goin as far as including the same flashback only for these retards to forget they even did that a few episodes back during Krones meeting with Grandmother.

How so? It showed the same stuff the manga did.

How can a guy who has purple hair and blue eyes have a grey eyed/black haired kid with a woman who has brown hair and purple eyes?

I wish Norman would look at me like this

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I can't watch the episode yet, could someone post the anime version of pic related please?

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There was no scene in the Anime where she hugs Emma and Norman

Not even the "they were so small" panel?

>It's that time of the week again.
The experiments at Lambda have ruined their bodies, to the point they have to constantly take some pills to slow does the effects, but their life span have been greatly cut short. It's not made clear if this affects Norman as well, Vincent is ambiguous, he just says it as in "us". I think Norman has it as well.

No, they just put her mostly reacting to Ray.

so what chapter should animefags start with?

Oh well. Thanks user.

the first

First one. If you start where the anime stops you'd miss way too many things that weren't told in the anime.

>changing into a skeleton at will

whoa that's spooky,does this mean magic actually exist in the world?

Wtf, I love Norman now. Emma sucks, btw.

>Inb4: t.Barbara.

Always loved lines like that.

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>STILL no lewds of her
What the fuck

Also Norman has a laboratory full of demon parts.

Manga did the ending way better, It felt too rushed in the anime.
I'll watch S2 in 2020 and hopefully they go past the meeting of Sung Joo so I can hold off on the manga for a bit.

But Norman's body wasn't modified, was it?

We've seen him taking some pills, though.

S-so it pretty much confirms that Norman has a short lifespan?

He was already a sickly boy... I feel like crying rn (_)

He looks so fluffy

I'm mad they didn't put "DATE 15 humans escaped Grace Field Plantation"

If Kairu tries to kill my son/husband again I'm gonna be upset

Norman is gonna become a demon

I'm sure Emma will fix it with a future O MY SEVEN WALLS.

How can we protect that smile?

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WTF I didn't expect Zazie to be that cute

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By giving her someone she loves back

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>those freckles

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It's gone, user.

>putting on a toddler sized skirt to stalk her husbando
what a whore

Ray is for Relatable

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But sadly, not for Relevant

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Will Emma be a good single mother?

so how was the episode?

>I'll watch S2 in 2020
Who cares for S2? The first arc is the only good arc

Meh.

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hair down isabella/10

Shit
I waited 12 to watch these brats escape?
Mama is still a bitch I hate!

4/10

mob psycho 100 2 Is aots ^_^

its all down from here
the escape arc is the peak of this series

It adds an interesting layer of complexity if Norman and his gang have a short lifespan. People have a short lifespan are under pressure to formulate short-term plans and go out in a blaze of glory, in this case that means quickly killing all the demons. Between "let's starved the demons in 5 years" and "let's bring peace between demons and humans in 50 years", he can't afford to pick the second plan even if he actually believes it's better. He would never see the end of that task and he would lose his devoted followers who also cannot afford to wait that long. Even if he did make sense for him to gain Musica's trust and use her as an ally to slowly convert demons to the human side, he can't physically follow on this plan. He'll die first. He has to lie an pretend it's better to kill Musica for the success of his short-term starvation plan.

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Time to drop this shit then and watch chicken run

Here it is. The start of Ray's downfall

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mindbroken forced pregnancy isabella was hot

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That's a very sad picture
Post more Ray's faces finding out how much screentime he will have later on

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So who will Emma get?
>Edgy irrelevant mama's boy Ray
>Moeblob milkytime "muh Emma" Norman
or some shota action with Phil

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spoonfeed me what happens with Phil or is the manga not 2+ years ahead

>Manga did the ending way better, It felt too rushed in the anime.
I disagree that was really well done and it was probably the only time the decision for "no monologues" actually helped elevate the storytelling with Isabella's flashback.That being said as an adaptation its very much inferior to the manga but the last episode did well what the previous episodes failed to do. Can't say I'll watch S2 because the first arc is the only good arc in this manga and they did a passable job with it the rest of the arcs aren't up to snuff and I doubt the anime will change that.

This show was trash and racist
2/10

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He's still living in Grace Field with a different mom in 6 months, but we haven't seen him after the 2 year timeskip yet.

Who not both? It's not like someone would tell her not to.

Violet

Black loli almost killed everyone with her crying

Emma's isn't really a long term plan since she needs to make the new promise before Phil and the other Grace Field kids get shipped.

Norman & co's problem with that plan is that they fucking hate demons and that they can't assure that &%$# will just pinky swear that they won't eat any humans anymore without getting anything in return and that all demons will obey.

Who put these fucking tears in my eyes

mob psycho 100

That's way too fat for just one kid. Does Ray have siblings?

There's no HOW in Neverland, user. You didnt see HOW Norman escaped from the lab, he just did, you didnt see HOW Emma beat Lewis, she just did. That's the reason why these characters are usually called mary stu. So if you think you're going to see Emma working hard this time, you're naive.

Ok i liked Ray plot twist but i've got a serious question.
They impregnates girls to make the better moms, make sense.
But who impregnated Mom ?
The demons don't seem to keep around males, as females are better suited to be caretakers.

Best episode of the series which is faint praise honestly. This adaptation could have been handled a lot better even though it wasn't bad or anything it just made me wonder what's the point when I could very much be reading the manga instead. Only a few Jump adaptations that I can say went above and beyond the source for materiel (Trust and Betrayal, Haikyu and hopefully Kimetsu next season) and this is really around the level of most outside the horrid longrunners.

>But who impregnated Mom ?
turkey baster

Insemination.

makes me wonder if ray consumed his twin in utero and thats why hes so smart because he absorbed his siblings power

>plot twist
Only if you were a retard

Spoiler: They do keep males alive as well, even some special children that are male to make better meat. Caretakers are women, but they do have non-food males alive as well to impregnate those "Mama"s and make new cattle. it's seriously kinda fucked up. Poor Isabella

Fuck Emma.

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I don't think I've ever seen so many speed readers on one book before.

humans are literally being bred and eaten like literal animals , its more than just "kinda" fucked up

give me reasons, hints that should have told me the truth.

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i can hardly remember but wasnt ray whistling that song earlier on in the series

Emma is clearly proposing a long term plan. Bringing peace between two hostile nations is always a long-term plan, wiping out completely the other group is always a quick and dirty solution, but sometimes justified and necessary. The tragedy that this story is setting up is that the success of the long term plan (alliance with Musica for diplomatic purpose) is the complete opposite of the short term plan (kill Musica to make sure starvation works).

The anime made Norman almost confess and played Leslie's song during his departure. Given how Posuka's drawing influences Shirai's writing, maybe Shirai really is going to make Emma fall in love with Norman after watching the anime.

>They do keep males alive as well
Actually we don't know that. The sperm could come from anywhere.

ok, how could i have connected the song to Mom though ?

I thought Leslie/Isabella was always supposed to be a Norman/Emma parallel.

glad we're getting a season 2

please don't die, norman, I just got you back

SHE SINGS THE SAME FUCKING SONG IN THE FIRST EPISODE TO CONNY

I read the whole arc because mangafags kept telling me how much better it was than the anime. And, in the end, the difference is quite small. In fact, the anime helped the storytelling to become less didactic. In both forms, the characters are too one-note and the escape was too easy. For all the hype it had, I was expecting something more emotionally intense.

7/10 adaptation of a 7/10 arc. Not bad, not great.

what this guy said

I always thought the parallel between the situations was intended and that's why Mama swiftly took advantage of Norman's shipment to try and sway Emma. Worked for her.

>how could i have connected the song to Mom though
>She sings the same song in the first episode.

>artificially produced children routinely tested for intelligence
>some of them have dark skin
I think the demons didn't notice something important about humans

>kid in the structure sings a song
>caretaker in the same structure sings the same song
>they must be real family, there's no other way he could have heard the song from her.

>Actually we don't know that. The sperm could come from anywhere.
my personal theory is that it comes from the top shotas before they get killed
>"Here, 12 year old boy. Lose your virginity with this older girl. After that, you die, so don't waste it"

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Just passing by to say Ray can't be a clone, he has Isabella's maneurisms, and that wouldn't be possible if he doesn't have her X chromossome.

Emma deserves a safe place to live in even if it's not the way she wants it. The ends are more important, no? Norman isn't wrong, it's for Emma's sake and her dreams.

>Mama stated that she had no real reason to keep Ray by her side since she was always in control of the situation and knew what he was planning since the beginning so why else would she keep close tabs with him?
>Her reaction over giving Ray the camera
>Ray sings the same song she sang in the first episode
>The kicker should have been when she told Emma that being a Mama meant being a breeding sow.

they dont get to fuck tho
those poor shotas probably get milked with some kind of machine

Artificial insemination. The Mamas and Sisters are all virgins. No one fucks.

as someone who was up to date with the manga and read it like 4 months or so before the anime started, mangafags were generally pretty dumb in this board. The manga overexplains things, while the anime omits internal monologues to focus on reaction shots and the emotional core of the scene. The only thing the manga does better is that it's visually more dynamic. Compare the last shot of the anime with the end of the arc in the manga and there anime looks like a joke.

Nice try, Norman.

They're demons who harvest kids for dinner, but they're not monsters, user.
If they reached 12 thanks to their effort and scores, they deserve that /ss/ action

>Conny asks Isabella what song that was showcasing that it wasn't a song that was known throughout the house
>Ray sings that same song that nobody but Isabella should have known
>Its probably nothing

You are a brainlet

I know this is a shitpost but you're tempting me into posting the artificial insemination panel.

Mom was talking about how future mom's should all give a birth to a child. And remember the bait letter Ray left to Krone and her words about how "this is something neither of them were supposed to know about". It was a huge ass hint after which most of mangareaders started guessing. There were also other weird things in their interactions: Isabella saying "in the perfect world, I would have stayed with you till the very end" and etc

not that user but can you post it anyway because i want to see

how graphically explicit is it

she could have sung it as a lullaby to the little ones, and Ray heard it
She could have sung it to Cunny too, but she doesn't recall because only Ray got memory hacks

the only thing emma deserves is to die

I feel like this will disappoint you.

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>the difference is quite small.
>removing monologues so tense scenes like pic related wind up looking retarded in execution
>REMOVING MONOLOGUES IN AN ARC ABOUT MIND GAMES ISN'T A BIG CHANGE

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Fuck off and hang yourself, Barbara.

>after watching the anime
The entire thing was clearly planned from the start, have you never read Shounens before?

i was hoping for some baster in vagoo action with the mamas having a disgusted look on their face

>5 minutes of retarded silent walking through the CGI corridors instead
I'm never getting over this

The demons do not consider the moral aspect of enslaving and killing humans because they are restricted by time. They have a death sentence looming above their head and they are psychologically blind to any outcome other than enslaving and killing humans.

HOWEVER.

Norman and Co want to genocide all demons without exception because they are restricted by time. They have a death sentence looming above their head and they are psychologically blind to any outcome other than genociding all demons. They are ok with killing even the rare demons that are completely innocent (Musica). They could hatch a plan to cure the demon's unstable health so they aren't cursed with a human-eating diet, and they ally with cured demons to incite a rebellion against their dictatorial government that hides the cure to the curse of human-eating, but Norman and Co ain't got time for that.

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How do you think they put the egg back in there?

>IN AN ARC ABOUT MIND GAMES
I read the manga before the anime. There's barely any mind games going on. Most of the strategies are explained to the characters anyway.

Thing is that Emma isn't thinking long term because she is determined to stop any more cattle children from getting eaten in less than six months

Nobody agrees with Emma's plan due to how long it would take (especially since a new promise would bring results right away) but because nobody else considers demons worth letting live and because of all the risks and doubts involving her plan.

Ray stated he had memory hack since he was born so he would have recalled the song Isabella sung to him back then hence why he asked her "why did she birth him" this episode because he always knew he was her child. The song was just a really subtle way in connecting the two if the dialogue and letter scene wasn't enough. You should have connected the dots by episode 10.

I just want to talk about how hot Norman is despite the genocide thing. Anyone?

>black little girl is named jemima

sorry im a brainlet so let me get this straight
they surgically remove the egg
inseminate via a needle
then they plant the egg back where it should be
and thats what happened?

i was hoping they would be tied down and have gallons of demon cum forcefully poured into their wombs , just like in doujins

>They have a death sentence looming above their head
But they don't. They won't die, they'll just devolve to how they originally were.
They could share their blood, too, but they won't. Song-juu could live forever without having to eat another human, but he won't.
They want to hunt them, they want to eat them. They put the lower class demons in that position of their own volition.

It's completely different from Norman and co.

And then he disappears for 100 chapters

Well, you just have to wait for doujins. Or for the manga when it's revealed Isabella has been turned into a baby popper.

That's a good doujin idea but I don't think demon cum is gonna produce human livestock. That's not a good business model.

Doubt it, Manga's ranking shot up as soon as Norman came back.

>disappears for 100 chapters
>still more plot relevant and popular than Ray
W-wew.

*And then he disappears for 44 chapters.

Leslie was cute as fuck.

if were going full doujin route i want specially designated "breeding mamas" that have have had their legs amputated so they cant escape , theyre stuck in a wall for quick access and then theres like , a whole bunch of shotas offscreen that comes in to fuck them
shotas get a stamina enhancing drug and the mamas get a drug that makes their babies grow faster (think 1 week , instead of 9 months)

>But they don't. They won't die, they'll just devolve to how they originally were.
Not much different than a death sentence. Arguably worse.
>Song-juu could live forever without having to eat another human, but he won't.
Some demons are just dicks. Song-juu gets the noose of course. He might refuse to bend the knee but it's entirely possible that many demons would accept the deal of being cured in exchange of not being dicks.

This.
He showed up in chapter 74, it was only about 30-40 chapters.

calm down asanagi, don't you have some victim girls doujins you should be drawing

seriously go play free cities user, it would scratch your itch perfectly.

It felt like he was gone forever. He wasnt there for the jailbreak, first dawn, helter shelter, goldy pond, helter shelter part 2 and the escape.

>Not much different than a death sentence. Arguably worse.
How? The wild demons in the forest are living, just because they don't have the mental capacity of demons who eat humans means they're the same as being dead?
What about insects and fish? They have just the same mental capacity but they're certainly not dead.

The fact is the demons were originally that way.

i have but the lack of "proper" graphics is a turn off

Is it impossible that we can follow both sides? I would hate it if we just followed Emma (and I'm an Emmafag) and suddenly she comes back and he just goes
>oopsie something went wrong with my plan please fix it emma
And we didn't get to see anything about it.

>It felt like he was gone forever.
That's just testament to the impact he left in the first arc.
After rereading the Manga in one go from chapter one again it didn't feel that way to me. On the other hand, it feels like it's been forever since Ray did something of note.

You made me remember Zaidvalroa. F

Norman is getting way too much focus to just get shelved again.

Author has to keep secrecy somehow.

I think we're probably going to go back and forth between Emma and Norman.
Honestly this is the way it should have been before so we could have seen what went down at Lambda.

who or what is that?

Anime version is cute, but no where near as smug as manga. See

>F
He moved on to wholesome comics, user. Let him have his character progression.

archiveofourown.org/works/10487208

I agree but I can understand why that part was kept more of a mystery than this. Considering we already saw him doing the deal with Giran and basically have a good understanding of what he's trying to get at, I think it'd be a waste not to actually go in depth into it now.

Wait until after the chapter comes out and there's nothing left to discuss.

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Manga did most things better, sometimes much better, but I thought anime did a good job on "muh Leslie" flashback/Ray is her son reveal. Maybe it just that actually hearing the music helped the scene.

But I'm thirsty. Damn it.

To be fair OP's pic looks like a very good way to put a character in the bus for some time.

>Considering we already saw him doing the deal with Giran and basically have a good understanding of what he's trying to get at, I think it'd be a waste not to actually go in depth into it now.
This, I think we're going to follow both perspectives here, they've already laid the set up for following Norman.

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I want to let angel Norman dominate me gently and I want to ravage devil Norman and put him back in his place.

what the fuck was Isabella always this attractive?

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You can't have both, Emma

That sexhair is doing wonders

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Yes, but manga didn't do her justice.

If your brain stops working you're brain dead. The demon's fate is not far from that. They're not one hundred percent brain dead but it's arguably worse. If your brain is going to stop working permanently at least you want to lay in a bed comatose, an honorable death, nobody wants their final state to a drooling retard that crawls naked in a forest and eats bugs. The demons in the story clearly don't want that.

>The fact is the demons were originally that way.
You were originally a mindless screaming baby, I'm sure if a disease returned you to that state you would consider it a problem. You wouldn't embrace it with zen-like enlightenment because you were once that way.

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This, the pills could have been supplements, but I think there's a good chance
Especially if it affects ALL of them, its not something specific to a particular modification, it sounds more like general Lambda-wide drug.
It'll be easier to tell in context of the chapter though.

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Why would they ever give Norman something like that when his IQ is literally something off the charts though? It's counterproductive, a waste of a unique individual.

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Post the most degenerate pice of art.

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Why go to the trouble to bring him to lambda earlier and do nothing to him? Just let him keep answering question in GF.

Maybe they just start giving pills that cause these effects to everyone that enters Lambda, before they realised how "special" Norman was.
Either way, I think it's VERY unlikely that Norman will die again.

Calling it, drinking Musica's piss is the key to save Norman & co. from dying young, which is how they'll join team #notalldemons

But we saw him like two months after the escape and he was already doing the tests and shocking them for a while.

Have the experiments accidentally ruined their body, or were they deliberately given an incurable flaw to make sure to minimize trouble if they ever broke free? If you're going to genetically engineer a bunch of superhumans that hate your guts, it's a good idea to take that measure. The Jurassic Park book did that idea ( and then went full retards because the escaped dinosaurs got the supplement they needed from some damn flowers)

The GF tests aren't the same as the Lambda tests, they're much harder. It's just a giant waste of a brain like that otherwise. Especially when these supposed drugs didn't even fix his body which was his main problem.
Not that I think Shirai would actually have the balls to keep any of them at death's door even if they took the drugs but I just think from the scientists' perspectives it would've been a weirdly dumb move.

I wonder if Norman ever got a boner when he was roughhousing around with Emma.

Anyone got that picture in higher quality?

>haha Norman, silly, why did you put a stick there of all places?
>let me get it out
What do?

>The GF tests aren't the same as the Lambda tests, they're much harder.
And there's literally no reason to make him change facility if they can just wifi the tests in. They wanted him to test his reaction on certain drugs.

>Calling it, drinking Musica's piss is the key to save Norman & co. from dying young
So Emma gets cucked by Musica?
nice.

That would just be a mess. You'll get kids whining about why he can stay beyond 12 with his family but they can't.

>But we saw him like two months after the escape and he was already doing the tests and shocking them for a while.
Yeah, and at that point he was also taking the pills, and probably had been for the past two months.

And? Kids have whinned about not wanting to go before.

>be musica
>born with body that heals demons of their genetic flaws
>when you cure a demon, the government hunts them down and kills them
>when you meet humans, they want to kill you to make sure they can starve demons to death
>so you lie about your identity
>you wander around like a hobo
>your only friend is another larping murderhobo obsessed with old traditions
>you just want to piss in people's mouths

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Good, she doesn't deserve Norman. Musica is top-tier waifu.

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Wasn't the manga in the "final arc"? Seems like it has over a year of story left.

They whine about not wanting to go but they see it's protocol, everyone leaves at the right time. If you make an exception the whining will be much worse.
If I knew my siblings all went to bed at ten, I'd be okay with going even if it pissed me off a bit. But if one got to stay up to midnight you'd bet there would be anger.

Final arcs of shounen tend to be 100-200 chapters.

Norman's strength and body are still hot garbage, where are his powers then? He can't even fight demons.

His superpowers are being extra handsome now.

>your only friend
Oh, so Emma meant nothing to her? I knew Norman was right about the demon genocide.

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That would be more of a no family wants Norman than a privilege. Also they wanted to test drugs, not se how smart he was. That's why they brought him over.

>over a year of story left.
Probably about a year or so. Mangaka said last August he was aiming for 20-30 volumes. Final arcs in WSJ manga just tend to be long as fuck.

not even him but what? they literally gave him tests every single day

Yes, to know the effects of the pills.

They fixed his 5head/hairline.
It's part of a plan to make Emma want to fuck him, and then have them create ultra intelligent offspring.

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Sonju
>probably came inside his waifu thousands of times
>is stronk and handsome
>only fights for his own dreams

Norman
>too much of a pussy to fuck his waifu even when she's throwing herself at him
>handsome but weak as shit
>fights for someone else's dreams

Who's the REAL chad here?

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But she already wanted to fuck him

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Well, it's working.

>pair up the strongest and the smartest to make the perfect babies
Not bad. Peter's not so bad afterall.

>the strongest and the smartest
That's why Barbara x norman is endgame.

>long flowing hair
wtf I love Isabella now

Barbara a fucking shit who needed steroids to be strong. Emma is naturally strong and durable. Kill yourself, Barbara. Emma owns Norman's dick.

I imagine Ray aggressively posting this from the bedroom Norman gave everyone.

Norman's superpowers are hidden in his eyebrows.

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I wonder what it would feel like to lick them.

Giran, fuck off, or Emma will think again about the whole "no genocide" thing.

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Wait, what does happen to the girls that dont get to return to one of the houses as a mama?
Do they just get eaten anyway?

And whose semen are they using to artificially impregnate the wamen? Ratri clan seed?

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Reminder that Emma has a type.

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>what does happen to the girls that dont get to return to one of the houses as a mama?
They keep on having babies. 18 were born between Emma and Ray, who have almost the same age.

So what is the consensus that the 7 gates are the 7 seas, the entire "world" we have seen so far is underwater in the ocean, and the demons are just anglerfish mutants?
Like basically the entire demon world is a large scale Goldy Pond, with an artificial sky and all

>eyebrows get bigger when BTFOing Emma
checks out

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I HATE Barbara

AAAAGGGGHHHHH EMMAAAAAA THIS IS AAAAALL FOR YOOOOOUUUUU
>autism attack

Does Ray gets good in the manga? They made him look like stupid loser by the end of anime.Big Brain Norman did everything.

He is pretty much a side character at this point, he doesnt do much.
Its all about EMMAAAAAAAAAAA

Well that sucks. I liked him most and it's all about worst one.

Ray just gets worse. He doesn't get to do shit, Emma steals all his relevance and screentime. And now Norman too.

Nah, Mom with proper haircut is better.

Why do they have ears?

I want Isabella to bear my 7 children!

Too bad you're dead, Leslie.

How are they dealing with their periods?
At this point Emma should already have hers, right?

I'm sure that Yugo and Lucas gave them all the talk

She doesnt get periods from the constant stress

>when animeonly retards still didn't understand that the first arc was about the escape and end up disappointed because they were hyped for something else entirely

wrong

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>implying Norman's IQ is higher than 155

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Die bitch.

Primary amenorrhea.

I wonder what happens after the time skip. I haven’t read the manga yet so I’m just catching up to the anime.

>Does Ray gets good in the manga?
>get good
You just saw the peak of his panel time. In escape arc, he was arguably the best character.
After that, he may as well not be there.

Who got her pregnant?

Smee.

My daughter Antemma is cute!

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Who user?

Imagine if that evil Ratri dude is the semen donor for all these kids and they are basically all half siblings, which was done in order so that even if they escape, they cant keep this up for generations because the inbreeding will eventually kill them all anyway.

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Ray's dad.

Who’s her dad? I didn’t read the manga

So how many chapters until we start posting "Norman did nothing wrong."?

>her

But Norman looks noticeably more Ratri than any of them.
He must be inbred as fuck. Probably why he's so weak.

>her

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Ray sucks.

Rate Season 1

8/10

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read the thread
artificial insemination

Regardless, the sperm came from somewhere.

Emmas resolution to not kill all demons would be more supportable if she actually went through hell or if the gold Park arc lasted longer and consisted of her seeing others getting mown down endlessly. She's had an easy ride so far

im an animeonly but from what ive gathered that hasnt been shown in the manga either

>Artificial insemination is the deliberate introduction of sperm into a female's cervix or uterine cavity for the purpose of achieving a pregnancy through in vivo fertilization by means other than sexual intercourse.

I want them to fuck so badly. I want Emma to lovingly cuddle him, lulling Norman into a false sense of security, before flipping him over without a warning and making him understand that the atmosphere has changed and he's about to experience loving in a way that he never has before. I want him to get extremely nervous but aroused at her assertiveness at the same time, knowing even if he wanted to he could never fight her small but strong body off and would have to accept anything she wants to do to him. I want Emma to pin him down despite it not being necessary and completely lick every single inch of him until he's begging, sweating, whining and making her feel powerful from her position above him. I want her to finally take pity on him and reveal herself before taking him in without warning once more, making him gasp and writhe beneath her. I want him to stay completely powerless as she decides at what rhythm they go and when he's finally allowed that sweet release he craves. Then I want her to kiss him lovingly and give him lots of tender aftercare, apologizing for being so dominant but telling him this is the way things are now and he better get ready to go again in the morning, to which he'll just give off a little pleased smile and pass out in exhaustion from the activity that's too much for his weak body to handle without lengthy rest right after.

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>not knowing Smee
Brush up on your Peter Pan lore.

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kek

6/10 where the manga arc was an 8/10

Fixed Posuka's inconsistent art-Hair down Isabella/10.

yes i know what it means , why did you reply me?

>"fixed"
I didn't know ruining the expressiveness of the art + retarded anime faces with high mouths counts as fixing anything. Not to mention how much better the manga panels were at key scenes like pic related.
Imagine having this level of shit taste.

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Bemma when, bros?

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Why the fuck is Ray talking to imaginary Norman? Couldn't they have deliver that scene better?

Can you tell two (2) panels where the same character isn't drawn completely different?

Yeah no piss off, the manga art is atrocious.

>the escape arc is the peak of this series
Objectively wrong. Barbara is the peak of this series.

Barbara is trash. Dumb whore.

cute

This is wholesome and smug Emma does things to me but why Phil?

They're always clearly distinguishable as themselves.
As long as that remains the case, small inconsistencies has never bothered me, I care about if the art looks good, is expressive and evokes the emotions its meant to.
Sorry, I honestly can't comprehend preferring the anime art.

Reminder that no matter what, Lewis penetrated Emma first.

Not where it counts.

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How dare you. Barbara is pure, unlike Emma.

Barbara lets Cislo and Vincent DP her while she strokes a clueless Zazie every night. You know it's true. Fucking slut.

I drew lewds of her It's a bad sketch and I don't like it tho

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Shipper Ray is always welcome but why do people insist on making Emma retarded enough not to realize what certain terms and implications mean? She's not Norman tier but she's not a retard with a two digit IQ either.

Don and Gilda would be the Hufflepuffs, right?

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I thought that was Anna giving Norman a love letter at first and was about to shitpost. Damn it.

>Emma retarded enough not to realize what certain terms and implications mean?
It's a shounen-MC specific kind of retardation.

>Character on fanwork is OOC
And a total of 0 people are shocked.

niggy japan is racist as fuck already

Reminder that ray x Emma is endgame with Norman becoming the antagonist

But there's no indication of it with her. I don't think being oblivious to Norman's feelings means she doesn't know what the concept of romance is. Surely they have books.

>Ray the most irrelevant house

Reminder that norman x Emma is endgame with Ray staying irrelevant.

user, you are 50% of a post into making Yea Forums break. Based faggot.

>>Ray the most irrelevant house
But that would be Hufflepuff, the official house of LiterallyWhos

>Hufflepuff is so irrelevant user forgot it even existed
Truly fitting for Ray.

Cedric Diggory was a Puff. Ravenclaw has literally no one except the chink Harry wanted to bone.

It had Loony Lovegood who managed to be more relevant than Cedric.

Luna Lovegood

Pretty sure Ray also cut his own ear off.

Damn, you are right.

He didn't. He just made an incision that Anna healed later.

How does this make you feel?

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Based Anna and her magic medical powers. Normal is a fool for making his party all DPS.

>Normal
*Normie

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

It makes me feel awkward because this artist made Gilda actually hot, which is a first for me.

Choose wisely.

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>tfw want the genocide route to happen but since it's a shounenshit manga they won't allow it

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No, this is Emma and Norman: The Manga

Ray is practically nonexistent.

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Norman made them go aloned.

We don't even know if they left already, it's a Norman chapter.

So when Emma and Ray head to the seven walls, who is coming with them?

I want some of the kids to go purely so someone other than Norman and Emma gets to fucking do something.

For one none of his guards can go, since they're in constant need of pills suply.

Don't be rude to the priest.

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Sounds like Norman's going to need his whole team for whatever he's doing anyway.

That doesn't mean they can't take someone like Hayato or something. It's gonna be a giant waste if only Ray goes because he doesn't get to do shit and it'll just be the Emma show again.

More like Emma: The Manga until literally about 10 chapters ago.
Reminder that Ray has had 2-3x the amount of panel time Norman has.

I'm expecting Don and Gilda for sure, probably Anna, Chris if he's recovered, and maybe Violet or some other Goldy Ponders.

There's no one that can keep up with Ray and Emma, even Hayato may need his dose of anti dying pills as well.

>Reminder that Ray has had 2-3x the amount of panel time Norman has.

user please. Ray's paneltime doesn't mean shit when it's just him making some face or saying "Yep"

Which makes it all the more ridiculous that Norman is much more important in 10 chapters than Ray in almost 130.

When will Norman let Emma HEAL him?

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Chris is like 7, isn't he? Why would he go?

Chris is too young. Don almost fucked them over last time they brought him.

I thought he was one of the older ones for some reason.

It's a waste to just leave such a giant cast of characters out just to bring the same two again, especially when one of them doesn't even do shit. I don't want 20 more chapters of Emma being cool and Ray nodding like a retard, man.

Reminder that Norman x Emma is endgame with Norman becoming the antagonist

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When she flashes him one of new newly grown Emmas.

>t. Norman

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one of her newly grown Emmas*
Oops.

Only Zack and Gillian the absolute units come to mind, and they'll find Musica and Sungjoo again, anyway.

>Gillian
Fucking please, I'd sell one of my kidneys for this.

The party will be Emma, Ray, Anna and Adam as the tank.

I don't think we're going to see much of the journey, just straight to whatever the crossing to the seven walls is and then seven walls, which will be safe from demons.
I doubt they'll see much combat.

Anna tripped inside the farm because she wasn't used to this level of responsibility, is it really safe to take her?

Emma would probably have to sell her own kidney to convince Gillian to help her find a way to save the demons. Thing is, chances are only Ray will back up her.

Eh, I dunno, everyone is an Emmafag now. As much as I hate the idea, I think someone like Gilda would go if she asked.

Even the biggest Emmafag don't want to help her on that.

Does this mean Ray is a bigger Emmafag than Norman now?

Well, obviously he wouldn't, he's trying a whole entire plan that he thinks is better for her. The others aren't really doing anything.

Then what does that make Ray?

Well they are endgame

He doesn't count as a character anymore.

Ray is irrelevant, that's the difference. He's the man with no opinions.

Ray just wants to keep his ship alive.

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Would Gillian get along with Norman?

His opinion is that he will follow Emma's opinion.

He's a shipperfag but a shitty one. He spent the few last chapters just watching them and doing absolutely nothing.

He remembers the last time he said her no, she cut her ear off.

Cute

So he has no opinion. As a non character would, exactly the same as when everyone in the group sucked up to Emma because she is the MC. And we know the cast is irrelevant too.

>The others aren't really doing anything.
They're agreeing with Norman's genocide wholeheartedly. Emma best put on her biggest slut mode and start holding hands if she want anyone else to come along.

Because he knew if he did nothing, Emma would take the initiative to hug Norman herself.
Plus, they were holding hands like 5 separate times in 2 chapters. Can't a man enjoy seeing his ship sail?

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>Last episode of the anime

Screw you guys, Don IS cool! He may not be as smart as the geniuses, but he's got hard work and guts!

Emma's not a whore like that.

Ray has meta awareness powers and knows as the MC Emma will be proven right despite Norman's actions being the logical course.

Canon and the beginning of Dongus

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Emma is loyal to her husbando, Norman's the slut who holds hands with anyone, even demons to get what he wants.

I want to make Gilda abort Dongus.

Don please, we are all just waiting for Phil to grow so he can replace you.

Wait is this the same leak user?

You don't interrupt when there's hugging lewd enough to give your bro a boner.

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No way, Don's the man! What he lacks in brains he'll make up for with his superior build! Tallest of the kids, maybe even stronger than Emma (blessed be her MC powers).

>Emma's not a whore like that.

His opinion is not letting his friends lose their marbles out of stress like he did once.

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He could've pushed their heads together in the panel where he looks like an awkward third wheel. But he still just held them like a loser instead of trying to make his ship canon. Ray is useless even when it comes to the things he loves.

The only memorable thing Don does post escape is almost getting his group killed in a demon city because he can't fucking walk right.

Musica is the one holding her. Also they're girls so it doesn't count.

Consensual
double
handholding

You mean this?

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Don, first across the chasm. A name sang throughout history. No need to disparage side characters, hey, at least he ain't Yamcha.

Emma didn't trade her hands for anything in return though.
Their love was pure.
Norman meanwhile, pleases demons for alliance.

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Musica is so cute and small.

Yes, Emma has no shame.

This is Don posting, isn't it?

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What a fucking slut.

Norman and Emma are equally slutty. I wanted to offend one of them in particular but looking at this they attack each other about the same amount.

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Norman literally prostitutes himself to the same demons he wants to genocide. Emma deserves better.

Emma has putting her hand weirdly on Norman's neck and griping his shirt last chapter like a desperate whore, why are you guys acting like he's anywhere near close to that?

And he complains about Emma when he craves for the Big Demon Hands ten times more.

explain Phil meme

Is it slutty if they're mainly being lewd with each other?

But who will go out with Dillian then?

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Hey, he did say he would utilise himself.
Not his fault he looks delicious, and might as well get something out of it.

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Not really but let me shitpost in peace user.

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You'll have to forgive my ignorance, I'm new to the threads. I just really like Don is all. He stays positive in the face of disaster and manages to hold his own in a cast of super geniuses (and later on, literal super humans). I think he's a real beacon of hope. You guys can say he's done nothing at all, but I say he's a man of humility, without need to hog the limelight.

Somehow Don manages to become even less important than Ray.

Once Ray raped Emma while she was asleep, and Emma hate handhold him once.

But Emma's love for her husbando is pure, so it's okay.
Norman just offers his hand to literally anyone.

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Only Don would post anything good about Don. Don is shit.

Nah, Don still made it to Emma's near death experience dream.

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Ray truly hit rock bottom, huh.

Emma is like Misato, she uses handholding as a form of normal bonding.

Cute!

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No one unless she takes a bath.

Just more proof that Ray is the most relatable character in this series.

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Holy shit I thought you guys were always memeing about Ray not appearing in the dream.

Holy shit i forgot about this, Ray...

Don't make me take up a Don tripcode. I'll do it!

You know who else forgot about Ray?

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Go clean the Lion's Jaw toilets, Don.

Hnnnnnnnnnnnngh, why is she so cute?!

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Not Norman. He called Ray is best friend!

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>Emma is not a whore like that
Woah, Emma...

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>neither him or Emma found it a bad thing if Ray were to be stabbed and killed
>didn't even say goodbye to him
>Emma forgot his existence during the escape
user, I'm not sure how to tell you this but.

>didn't even say goodbye to him
This time it was Ray who couldn't bear say goodbye.

Even fucking Isabella! Truly XAXAXAXAXA

In the last spin off chapter Emma forgets his existence and leaves him behind, user.
Norman just plain ignored him.

To be fair, we've all held our mother's hands user. You should be more concerned about her weird finger intertwining dreams.

>we've all held our mother's hands user.
That's just you, you degenerate.

>NormanxEmma shipping

Who was with Emma during the most exciting parts of the escape?
Ray.
Who was with Emma during their fight for survival in a brand new world?
Ray.
Who was with Emma on their many journeys into the demon world searching for the seven walls?
Do I even need to say it?

Norman's the childhood friend, and now he's the genocidal childhood friend. Sure, Emma's gonna rescue Norman at the end due to MC powers, but Ray's the real deal. There for every leg of the journey, and still has her back when Norman has gone a little off the deep end.

You're trying too hard for a thread that's on the verge of death.

Ray has become her beta orbiter while Norman has become the mysterious bad boy. Their roles have literally switched.

I'll give you a reply just because everyone else is.

Fuck if I care.

That only works if Emma plays by thot rules. As Emma is not a thot, then it is inapplicable.

You're not gonna get any autistic shipping wars like you intended in a dying thread.

This

But he's getting (You)s so he's still winning something.

I'll give you a reply just because everyone else is.

Ah, no no, that was never my intention man. I just wanted to vent a bit of frustration seeing all these Emma x Norman posts. I could have totally bought that in the first arc, but given how things are now? I just can't see it. I think the ship is unrealistic. Not that I don't see Emma going crazy ol' cat lady end, but them's the ropes.

Is this really what you kids think trying hard is? I used to try hard in the day for trolls, but now I'm just talkin' normal. Don't be so soft.

But Norman was never a beta orbiter, because he went against her explicit wishes to do what he thought would make her happy. He didn't just blindly follow what she told him.
He's literally doing the same thing now he did when the sacrificed himself, in his mind.

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Is this your first time in here? Nobody but you thinks RE has a shot in here. Posting this is just gonna cause autism.

RE is retarded. There, that's what you wanted to hear, right?

>I think the ship is unrealistic.
How so? I'd say the recent developments have made me MORE certain that the ship is endgame. I feel almost the opposite way, when Norman first left and we were supposed to get Ray and Emma adventures, I thought it was possible the mangaka was going to focus on their bond.
But then Ray was so irrelevant and they never really developed their bond, while now Norman's back and they're holding hands everytime they're in the same room as eachother and Emma's even making the same retarded faces as him too.
I don't get why you'd think recent events have made the ship less likely?

It's about real relationships my man, and at its heart TPN is all about human relationships. It's been the bonds that have gotten the main characters as far as they've gotten, and when it comes to ships, it's about takin' bonds a step further. That step further doesn't come from coming back to life, it comes from honest to goodness camaraderie. Ray's still Ray to Emma at the end of the day, but Norman's now Mr. Minerva and the literal Jesus to a bunch of actually autistic superhumans. Norman's set up to be an eventual antagonist to Emma while Ray's gonna be in her corner. There's literally no comparison. Norman's got the deck stacked against him, no matter how much crying you guys want to do about it.

No, no, that's not what I want to read at all. But I am amused.

Now this is some fresh autism.

Dude, don't indulge him.

Yes, yes, you are big brain user and literally everyone else is low quality farm produce. Congratulations, no one really cares.

Perhaps it's a difference in perspective. I said before, I'm new to these threads, I only recently binge read the manga, so everything I know is still pretty fresh in my mind. First and foremost, I think the topic of ships is kind of stupid to begin with, not unlike shipping in One Piece. I don't think Emma would see either Ray or Norman as anything other than brothers, and I don't think she has an incest fetish. Like I said, crazy ol' cat lady end.

As for holding hands and being touchy, that's normal human stuff when two people who care about each other meet after a long time. Nothing unusual about that.

I disagree, my autism is very old at this point.

There's a new thread, just migrate.

I don't even know where to start with this post
But yes, Norman is set up as an antagonist to Emma's ideals, but one Emma is supposed to bring to her side with HEALING. Did you even read the last chapter? Ray is literally just the sidekick, they have no special relationship to speak of.

Will this lead to gay doujins?

Thread is close to archiving, so I figured there was not much to lose in indulging him a little.

It's been almost 3 years and RN is still a minority. No.

Not many fujos in TPN? I figured there'd be more. It seems ripe for fujos.

Sadly, no. TPN shipping is mostly het only, because female MC and few other significant characters.

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>REtard
KEK

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Nope, sorry.

Based

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Shirai and Pozuka work hard to btfo all fags and fujos and it is apparently working

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Cognitive death, is functionally the same as brain death.

This panel is even more insulting than the Emma dream sequence for me. Holy shit the disrespect.

It does seem to be working. What kind of kyrptonite against degeneracy is this? I'm actually surprised.

that's just ray irrelevance at work

Norman killed fujos by asserting his heterosexuality in chapter 4. Emma looked like a boy so they could probably get behind that though.

I'm alive.
I'm still writing. I've just became much slower.
I'm sorry.

>I'm sorry.

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It's okay. We appreciate the narrations too. Don't let that one faggot from last thread discourage you.

He's a white haired pretty boy obsessed with the MC, so if you think about it, it's still gay even if Emma's a girl.

>implying it's not

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I mean, it was pretty gay when Emma was a boy (female) but she's growing some Emmas now.

>It seems ripe for fujos.
Not really. There are 3 prominent characters in TPN, and one has been absent for 50 chapters and is a very outspoken waifufag. Even fujos need some bait or scraps to cling onto, it's hard to start shipping something when you have to start out with outright delusion.

Some kinda writefaggotry goin' on? I did some writefaggotry back in the day, what do you guys want? I'm almost drunk, open to suggestions.

Pretty much this. Shirai barely throws them a bone at all. Most WSJ titles have a lot of fujos because the mangaka admittedly make ultra gay scenes but that doesn't really happen here. Probably because Emma is a girl. Last chapter would've been gay as shit if she had a dick.

We're lacking some Isabella lewds.

Isabella getting railed by the entire demon HQ onegaishimasu

>Isabella actually being impregnated the ol' fashioned way by Ray's dad, who keeps making regular visits

Have you guys determined how demon sexuality works? I thought for a few chapters that they were simply monosexual, but there was that male and female pair in Goldy Pond, so now I'm not sure how to think about demon sexuality.

>the dad will never be Leslie
It h-hurts bros.

Most likely all earthly species works, it's not like they are aliens.

Well, we don't particularly know but Nouma had breasts so I'm guessing they might just reproduce normally. Just imagine the demons some barbed dick for effect or something.

How do you go from this...

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It hasn't stopped the bulk of Ao3 writers.

I read this as but Norman had breats.

What are the chances we'll hit 66 posts?

But who is Ray's dad? Given the mama program being entirely female....hm, and given that the demons appear to value efficiency, it seems unlikely to me that they'd waste potentially valuable male specimens. If I had to postulate, I imagine the demons would utilize a method of storing the sperm of potential genius male cattle for impregnation of the mama candidates, to create a sort of invitro straight shota situation.

We mustn't forget that a species method of reproduction goes hand in hand with how they evolve. Given that the demons evolve through consumption, coupled with their extraordinarily long lifespans, it's not unlikely to think that their reproductive cycles are very seldom, if they happen at all.

After thinking for about five seconds, there seems to be a pattern of parallels in themes in the series. There's the us versus them, the young versus old, the human versus demon, parent versus child, sibling versus sibling, friend versus friend and foe versus foe motifs going on throughout the manga. I'm not really recalling much male versus female in what I've read though. I find that a bit interesting.

What we know is that there are five high-quality farms and few enough mass-produced farms for Norman and his superhumans to make a dent in production. This suggests that either demons don't eat very often or that there is not a very high demon population. Given the fact that Emma and co go throughout the demon lands on journeys of great quantities of time and that demon settlements are described at towns, I'm inclined to think that the demon population is low. I don't think they do much reproducing at all. I think that's going to be a point in the latter parts of the story. There has to be a reason there are so few demons after a thousand years.

I didn't even realize, kek

>page 10
Zero

We're at 600 already.
If we believe in ourselves, we'll make it.

But I don't believe.

I dunno what 66 posts means, but if you say Don is the best, I'll make it happen.

Huh? I haven't seen any fujo fics in AO3.

Sometimes a scientist and male doctor come by, that's how Krone met Smee.

Let's shitpost to the max then. Help me brothers.

> I only recently binge read the manga
Same. 100 chapters and not a single indication that Ray and Emma feel anyway about each other but brother and sister.
The Manga author explicitly states they're all sibling relationships except Norman's feelings for Emma.

If that doesn't spell things out for you I don't know what will.

I meant 666.

Okay
NORMAN CUMMING INSIDE EMMA

BIG DEMON TIDDIES
I?m assuming the number of breasts change depending on what they eat, too.

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The same could be said for NormanxEmma too, ne? Accepting one incest ship while denying another is pure delusion.

Logic does not apply to the kind of subhumans who ship RE.

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I've not had the pleasure of going back and studying the manga page by page. Does that look like sun-moon parallels? There's something between the sun and the moon though....what is that?