Sheer Heart Attack has no weaknesses

Sheer Heart Attack has no weaknesses.

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Star Platinum! The World!
*punts it into the sun*

SP fought SHA directly and couldn't do anything

That was before time stop

>Strong enough to break diamond teeth
>Can't even break a toy

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animeonlyfag here
will it be explained why Star Platinum also has the World. did he siphon it from Dio somehow or did he always have his own variant of "The World" ?

"They're the same Stand" is literally the only explanation you'll ever get

well that's boring.

>ASSPULL

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Gravity.

He's talking about a metaphysical force, specifically destiny/fate, that draws certain people together and guides their actions. He calls it gravity to make it pseudo-sciency and sound cool.

Probably the most interesting belief araki mentions in Stone Ocean.

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>Also read the manga
I could, and I know there's a chance you're just saying that because of the meme, but I prefer to wait for it to be animated, since I already know how all the parts end other than 8, because last time I checked that's still going.
It sounds very dumb.
And in that context, no, I don't believe.

My own shitty headcannon is that the true ability of The World is to copy the stand abilities of every living Joestar, and Dio just managed to unlock timestop before Jotaro realized he had it. That explains Dio's Hermit Purple like stand in the beginning of Part 3, and how he fixed Pucci's foot in Part 6 (He used Crazy Diamond's ability).

If Dio was alive during Part 6, he would also have Stone Free's ability.

What said, but also if you recall, DIO also briefly used another Stand that was similar to Hermit Purple.
The implication at that point was that because they are kind-of sort-of related, or at least were when DIO first got his Stand Powers (and the rest of the Joestars got them because their ancestor's body got them) is that they all get the same kinds of powers.
Of course this was back when Araki still wanted Stands to be parts of sets instead of just whatever fits their user's soul/personality/whatever.
He still kind of tried arguably with Crazy Diamond being arguably similar to Star Platinum physically, only having a different power, and then making it so Gold Experience can manipulate objects to become other things like Crazy Diamond, but the similarities grew stretchier by the arc, let alone the part.

I respect your shitty headcanon as I also have it.
I'm not saying it because of a meme, I'm saying it because you're actually missing out on great manga that is usually botched by subpar adaptations. (excluding 2 which is better than the manga)

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I also like to think that the flesh buds are Holly's stand, as we never learn what it's ability is, but it is visually very similar to what we see in Avdol's flashback.

It's very possible that, even in stopped time, SHA explodes anyway when it's grabbed. I mean, I don't think you can grab fire without burning your hand or an electrified cable without having the electricity pass through your body.

If it's any consolation, I probably will read it eventually. Until then, the closest I've gotten is reading the Duwang scans and then losing my place because it was in an incognito tab and my laptop crashed or something.
Then why does sunlight and hamon disintegrate them?
Also, since stands usually relate to their user's personality, that would raise some concerning questions about her.

I was under the impression the fleshbuds were explained as just one of the bullshit vampire powers he had.
I mean if they weren't, why would one of them have done to Okuyasu's dad what it did? If it was just a stand, it would have ceased to exist with no further effect when DIO died, and would certainly not be giving immortality to someone after DIO's body was destroyed, even if somehow the initial transformation was caused while DIO was dying but not quite dead yet.

This user is correct

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>being turned back into Killer Queen's hand by Crazy Diamond
>thrown into the mirror world by Man in the Mirror
>having its kinetic energy reduced to zero by White Album
>getting stuck underground by the effects of Oasis or Sticky Fingers
>being sent away by following the shots of Aerosmith
>being forced to attack some animal created by Giorno, just to get the damage reflected again and again to Kira's hand
>being sealed inside a wall by Kiss
>Metallica using magnetic force to encase it in iron and throw it far away
>Vainilla Ice eating it without touching it
>have D4C bring a copy from another universe and either have them clash against each other forever or just be destroyed by the sponge effect

Kira either overestimated his mindless bomb car or never faced a stand user before. I'm tempted to include Notorious BIG, but I don't have any idea what would happen if you pitch them against each other.

Yeah, flesh buds were some weird vampire experiment of Dio. Which makes us think why was Joseph so worried about having a flesh bud killing him since he can make hamon pass through his body at any time.

And also why did they go to such pains to remove Kakyoin's fleshbud instead of just having Joseph pass a light hamon through him.

Part 6 is confusing as all hell.

>since stands usually relate to their user's personality, that would raise some concerning questions about her
Kakyoin was as mindlessly and inexplicably attracted to Holly as he was to Dio. In Holly's hands the stand only makes you want to protect her to the point that you might die, Dio uses it in a more evil way.

We see plenty of bullshit vampire powers before Part 3 and flesh buds isn't one of them. The flesh buds created would still be tangible organisms created by the cells of the stand user, similar to how the things Gold Experience brings to life are actual living creatures and not stands. The stand ability is to implant some of yourself into another person and influence their actions. Holly's take on it would be more motherly and nurturing, whereas DIO's is a sinister manifestation of that. Maybe the vampire essence also changes some stuff, who knows.

I'm also just making this stuff up on the spot based on what said, don't take it too seriously. I know that it goes against the manga.

Top 10 most OP stands:

1.) Gold Experience Requiem
2.) White Snake/C-Moon/Made in Heaven
3.) Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap
4.) Weather Report
5.) King Crimson
6.) Tusk Act 4
7.) Killer Queen/Sheer Heart Attack/Bites the Dust
8.) The World/Star Platnium
9.) Jail House Lock
10.) The Hand (Okuyashu is a dumbshit with it tho)

The World was a Joestar stand, as Dio was in Joestar's body. So his descendant got it as well.

False. Dio's stand is The World, Jonathan's is Purple Hermit or some variation of it.

>female protagonist
>daddy issues
>gets killed
>ends the original universe
Women are fucking useless

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My headcanon is Star Platinum's ability is to do whatever Jotaro thinks it can.

You're ignoring the part where the flesh buds continued to function after DIO's death.
The one thing (non-independent) Stands cannot do, is continue to function after their user's death.
And the flesh buds can't be stand-alone Stands, because they were effected by DIO's death.

It's a fine idea sure, but it just doesn't add up with Stands as much as it adds up with DIO's tendency to make up bullshit Vampire powers on the fly. It's not like any of his Vampire powers were established before they became useful.
>JoJo went up the chimney
>DIO can now walk on walls by somehow more easily lodging his feet into brick than unlodging the other leg in brick
>Hamon user managed to touch him
>No worries, he can just freeze their blood and stop their hamon
>JoJo got him pinned down, he can't attack with his arms or legs
>Shit, he can just use those eye lazers all vampires have
>Head cut off
>Vampires can live that no problem, they just need a new body

Equally, top 10 shittiest stands:

1.) Talking Head
2.) Hermit Purple
3.) Notorious BIG/Cheap Trick (i.e. only useful with your death)
4.) Super Fly
5.) Rolling Stone
6.) Survivor
7.) Dragon Dance
8.) Fun Fun Fun
9.) Bastet
10.) Khnum

Even in Part 1, Dio could exert control over his minions somehow, which probably ties into the myths of vampires being able to control their victims, but still was part of his vampire powerset. I think that the flesh buds in Part 3 are an extension of that, a way to control people without turning them into vampires.

You don't have any evidence of your claim. Granted, neither the guy that you replied to has evidence, but at least don't call false so easily if you're just going to replace his headcanon with yours.

I'm pretty sure that the flesh buds were said to be made of Dio's cells, but I can't remember where.

If time is literally stopped then nothing moves. Heat from a fire or electricity just doesnt have time to transfer due to the lack of it. Things like that arent instant.

Weird to not see Heaven's Door there. Rohan first move is writing "can't attack Rohan Kishibe", it would be a killer move against almost anyone, and he only needs to make you see a drawing.

Dio has a stand that's, seemingly, the same as Joseph's. Joseph's daughter, as well. Where do you think it comes from? Does Araki really need to spell it out for you? Get real.

anyone who's seen so much as an ad for Pink Dark Boy can be turned into a book

if time is stopped temperature becomes irrelevant

same goes for electricity

This is how I saw it as well. Basically The World got a cut down version of everyone's stand and Jotaro just didn't have a decent grasp on Star Platinum's ability while Dio was just smart enough to realise it's potential. The reason he never used the other stands is that they weren't practical or were worse than what Vampirism gave him since Crazy Diamond couldn't heal him and Stone Free was hot trash compared to the rest.

Wait, in that case, since no physical event can take place, would that mean that you can go swim in a lake in stopped time and not get wet?
Seriously though, I think the way it's supposed to work is that anything touched by someone moving in stopped time passes the immunity to stopped time to whatever it is they touched. That's why clothes can move, why DIO can throw knives, etc.
This means while electricity still probably wouldn't be a problem unless you're touching a battery that's right there (telephone lines get their massive charge from far away so you'd only get hit by a miniscule amount of charge in that part of the cable at that instant), heat would still take effect because if you touch something that has excess heat to give off, it ceases to be stopped while you're touching it.

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It has tons of weaknesses
>Relatively easy to get away from if you don't care about sacrificing nearby people
>Can be frozen in place with a great many stand abilities

Dio also has a stand that looks like Jotaro's stand. Don't pretend it's anything but headcanon.

anything that relies on conductivity wouldn't work

knives would still work though

But wouldn't it be some form of conductivity when the momentum, the movement energy is transferred from DIO's hand to the knives?

hence the knife stopping in mid air after being thrown
but I'm more talking about how the edge of a knife would still cut even in stopped time

>hence the knife stopping in mid air after being thrown
The point is, that the knife both moves while handled by someone which takes energy, and then returns to a stopped state when released but still retains that energy, meaning the energy was transferred.

If we get pedantic, if Dio can see in stopped time, it's because light can still move. Heat from fire should be able go to his body. Also, since gravity keeps working for Dio in stopped time, electric forces could keep working too (though honestly I'm not sure about gravity, after all he seemed to be able to fly in stopped time). Also, even in stopped time he seemed to be afraid of Hamon passing through him if he touched Joseph, which makes it seem like involuntary, automatic things like that would start again the moment Dio touches them. On the other way, a stopped bullet doesn't get its momentum back until Time Stop is over, so who knows.

Wow, that's quite better. I thought it had to be a drawing made by his hand, either what he did in the air or the manuscripts for the manga

describe your Stand in this format:
>name
>what it does
>how it does it
>range
>general design/appearance

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>will it be explained why Star Platinum also has the World
This is just an internet rumor that may or may not have been based on an interview so take it with a grain of salt, but I believe that The World's original ability was to use the ability of every other stand so when you see Dio using the timestop ability you haven't seen used by any other stand user the twist that it's Jotaro's ability makes marginally more sense. This was evidenced by Dio using Hermit Purple's ability, but Araki later retconned the ability as the series went on.

The commonly accepted explanation these days is what people said about it being Jonathan Joestar's latent stand. It's more of a post-hoc justification than something actually established by the series, but it makes as much sense as anything else that happens in it so people just roll with it.

How fast is it, because I feel like all I'd have to do is make it to a car and I could just drive away. Hell if I really need to distract it I just need a lighter and just set fire to my shirt or something to distract it while I run to my car. Once I'm far enough away from it, the odds that it'll specifically track the heat that I'm giving off is pretty slim.

this kind of gets into exactly how the world works which we don't really know
but the way I view it is, heat is vibrating molecules
can't vibrate when time are stopped
but then AGAIN, magnets apparently still work in stopped time
so

Dio generally can give things momentum during stopped time, he can move the air around him and he can throw things. No idea of how would it work in other scenarios. If he were falling at a high speed, he coudln't do anything with Time Stop. It would be like punching a nail or the edge of a knife. If he were exposed to an electric field, or heat in the form of electromagnetic waves, it sounds like he should be affected, but who knows.

>Then why does sunlight and hamon disintegrate them?
They're still flesh buds. Vampire flesh buds.

Then they aren't a stand!

>but I'm more talking about how the edge of a knife would still cut even in stopped time
Because anything directly contacted and maneuvered by the one within the time stop takes effect, whereas objects and other people become incapable of both acting and conscious thought, with the "act" part being nullified while direct contact is made with the one with the power.

>heat is vibrating molecules
I'm not sure if that applies to the time stop, since he doesn't feel like everything else is at absolute zero. Also, heat can be transferred without contact, if a white hot iron for example were to be in timestop, it would still glow and still give heat, like an electric lamp.

I don't disagree in that they aren't a stand, but flesh buds could theoretically be the effect of a stand similarly to how Stone Free allows Jolyne to unravel her physical body. The buds are clearly just bullshit vampire powers, but could they feasibly be the work of an enemy stand? Sure.

But heat still takes time to travel.

CRINGE: Killer Queen
BASED: Oye Como Va, Mi Ritmo

That would explain Okuyasu's dad. Now we know that everyone Giorno heals will become grossly disfigured when he dies.

it wouldn't though
if everything except DIO is stopped in time, heat wouldn't exist, light would be stopped, the flow of electricity would also be stopped, everything

Araki retconned it in part 6 to where you don't actually stop time, just "move faster than the speed of light." When he throws things, the slow to a halt in the "stopped time" because to dio/jotaro, they're slowing down at the speed to where it looks like they've stopped. Heat and stuff still works due to friction being built up, (kraftworks, basically) and I doubt that electrical currents can move faster than light, so dio/jotaro would be fine

*if he can die

All that piss must be good for the liver

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he can literally make himself a better brain, or body part, or whatever, and not to mention GER

I don't think he can, can he?
I don't remember araki showing us what happens to all his repairs if he dies
for all we know it can all turn back into the original substances the moment giorno dies

What kind of sets would we get apart from tarot cards if Araki stuck with that idea?

If DIO’s stand gives him all the Joestar stand abilities, imagine DIO with Gold Experience, Crazy Diamond and Stone Free on top of The World and Hermit Purple

If Time is stopped how come Tusk's infinite rotation was still moving?

>Flawless physical restoration
>Biogenesis
>String lmao
Jolyne really got the short end of the stand arrow huh

Cuz it's infinite.

it's rotated the boundaries of time away

The Hand could have BTFO'd Kira

The Hand could btfo anything but Okuyashu is an idiot

>Araki retconned it in part 6 to where you don't actually stop time, just "move faster than the speed of light."
This isnt true at all brainlet

It's weakness is that it'll target anything hotter than a human being.

Shit, you could probably throw a lit match across the room and you'd have enough time to get away.

I feel like the explosion caused by SHA wouldn't really affect BIG that much, feels like it would still just absorb it.

Sure, but that requires that the enemy doesn't know that Rohan is a hostile yet.

I mean in any situation where the enemy is knowingly hostile of Rohan before getting close would pretty much make it impossible to activate on them.

No weaknesses, huh? You sure about that?

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I wouldn't think so, the changes he makes aren't really a part of his stand after he's changed it, I'd figure everything would stay the same, it'd be like if Josuke died would everything he ever fixed come undone again? Just seems off.

Also with those kinds of abilities, the same 'things reverting/disappearing' shit will happen even if they are just close to death or unconscious like with Bruno/Mista.

>Blocks your path

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Don't think you can make SHA die of old age.

Star Platinum! The World!
*Digs it underground or throws it into the ocean*