Christmas Cakes

I hope she ends up with no one and becomes a lesbian

People are stupid. Relationships and whos fucking who is the focus of most people's lives.

MC dumps his loyal fiance for teacher. The end.

>Relationships and whos fucking who is the focus of most people's lives.
You mean, women's lives.

Fem MC is the teacher right?

Yes. She has a scare or something that she might not be able to have children due to her age but he's fine with it.

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Well that unexpected, I'm fine with the ending.

Cakes are made for /ss/. You cannot dispute this.

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>Cakes are made for /ss/ and /ll/.
Fixed.

Isn't the manga already finished?

>TV series
This got a JDrama adaptation?

>spoilers
No, stop.

Yep and yep.

This

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You forgot about /ll/ too?

>26
>virgin

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Sauce?

Petit Heaven by Senke Kagerou

/ss/ or /ll/, which one is better?

because she wants dudes who are taken
she is a ho

>54
>Virgin

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She can always get a man. She just can't get the tall handsome rich loyal chad that she wants. Just like all women.

/ss/ because we need more cakes and the only way to do that is to cuck them when they're young.

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Duckrolled!

>54
>virgin
I didn't know I needed this until now

>300
>virgin

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I love how even her manager calls her old.

I doubt that.

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>Just like all women.
Go single or go lesbian that's what my aunt who's a lesbian always says.

Dude never liked his loyal wife anyway, blame him first not her.

It's cute but she's not the main character. You can just read the last chapter which is purely focused on her and leave it at that.

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>/ss/ or /ll/
Doesn't matter I like them both.

/ss/ easily

/ss/ is amazing, /ll/ is underrated and deserve more content.

this

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/ll/ because of Itou Hachi

Both. I love age gap relationships even Yaoi ones too

/ss/ is nice but loli x older male is definitely the clear winner.

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see

/ll/ is superior.

You don't want to have relationship every single beautiful women you see, user. Some of them are broken too.

It's weird, I'm 35 and I've dated a bunch of older women and I feel like I see something different now in these manga than the rest of Yea Forums does.

One one hand, the idea of this really appeals to me, but on the other if a woman is a virgin over 30 she probably has psychological issues that'll keep her from ever enjoying intimacy with a man.

Why not both? A hypersexual, naturally dark-skinned female teacher in her 30s wearing glasses and business outfits, inclining several of her pupils to sex, conducting orgies and bdsm acts once in a while.

God I'd love to spend a night drinking beer with her so I could watch her take a hot smelly piss made steamy by the cold night air
that shit almost killed the manga for me though

This manga has been a pleasant surprise and I'm glas it didn't go the "will they or won't the route" but I hope it doesn't wind up being dozens of chapters of "wacky mishaps" from struggling to keep the relationship secret

>it didn't go the "will they or won't the route"

Picked up. Finding manga about ongoing relationships isn't easy.

Japanese are not simps like westners no men wants a 25+ woman

Well that was disappointing. Most of that chapter was her worrying about it and then it turns out the dude has a low sex drive.

>being this gay
that's why japanese has a birth rate problem and why you're forever single. 2D women don't even like you

Agreed, it's like a better version of Annoying the Pretty Boss.

You just need to know how to look. There's plenty of them

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Japanese men do love older women in general because experience of sex and other things. Lesbianism is very popular among older women including the richer ones because young women do love a sugar mama.

>japanese has a birth rate problem
Don't believe the meme

It ain't often that I was actually rooting for the younger girl instead. What the fuck man.

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This is by the guy who did the manga about the black panther OL cake and the 20-something turtle dude right?

Absolutely This.

>being this gay
Don't discriminate

That manga was actually pretty good until the bullshit cancellation ending. Even then it was OK.

>yfw they all spent the night together

>That manga was actually pretty good until the bullshit cancellation ending.

A fucking damn shame really.

>You just need to know how to look. There's plenty of them

Already read that one. And Bonnouji. My biggest problem, other than finding a story that has an adult relationship in the first place, is finding one that doesn't have all kinds of bullshit drama. You start reading a story about two 20somethings who start dating and instead of comfy domestic stuff there's cheating or aliens or yakuza or whatever.

I kinda wonder, if the plot lines that got thrown in at the end were planned all along, I'm glad it got cancelled. Not sure I would have wanted a 30-chapter gay mad scientist boss arc.

Probably haven't read this one

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The ending was fine. She needed to grow up, literally. Moving away was the best option for her to do that.
On a related note I hope his newer work gets translations. It's about a guy who works for an onahole company and this is his boss.

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>She needed to grow up, literally. Moving away was the best option for her to do that.

Yeah, but we're not talking about that. It's that the last two chapters had the psycho girl, and the breakup, and the crazy doctor boss, and the car crash, and whatever drama happened. The rest of the series was kind of a slow burn. All that stuff at the end was silly.

Christmas cakes just need to be put in their place.

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What the fuck is the matter with you? Go fuck off to a yuri anime or manga quit dwelling around here.

I like both equally, though /ll/ has much less content and thus is so much more precious when you find it.

Hina is the epitome of a roastie. Imagine leading someone on so hard that they break down psychologically.

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I'll admit this shit has me hooked and the translator working on this is a God send

Delete that

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>Lesbianism is very popular among older women including the richer ones because young women do love a sugar mama.

I have a soft heart young girls loving their sugar mamas.

Yea Forums loves yuri and /u/ will always have a place to stay here faggot.

God fucking hell, why do I love this idea of a young boy being seduced and taken advantage of by an older woman and his childhood friend who's crushing on him being completely powerless in managing to stop it.

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That doesn't mean you can go into any thread and shit it up with your yurifaggotry, faggot.

loyal fiancee maybe(considering where the translations are at) but she fucked off to England to study and they try to do the Long Distance thing. theres a reason why so many say it doesn't work, especially of regular folks.

this, and the /ss/fags shitting this place up and going off topic

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Fuck off.

If you are over 30 (male or female) without a serious relationship, I hope you have a REEEEEEAL good excuse because that's a critical point of your life.

At least I hope you have a great job with a nice salary to compensate.

Die teen

no, just don't be alone after 30. Unless you have a good reason.

Post grooming

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Fuck cakes. Litchurally

I do have a reason, its called "I don't want one"

I have much more fun hanging with people I know and building robots and shit

I've relegated myself to being everyone's crazy uncle

you /ss/ fags are cancer, not as bad as the /u/tards or lolifags(you guys at least have the decency to stay in your won thread) but still cancer

I wonder how serious that feeling actually is. I always thought I felt the same way, then when I was around 25 I woke up feeling like it'd all been a mistake. Eventually got my first girlfriend at 26 and now I've had almost ten years of relationships, but I wish I hadn't started so late.

Dunno, I went through the reverse honestly. Had a few relationships and shit then realized that I'd be a lot more use to others if I fixed me instead of chasing a relationship

I'm cool with the supporting role, as long as those around me succeed then I'm happy

/blog

I"m 30 and have resigned myself on being a herbivore man.

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that's ok, it's a personal decision after all. Most people just let time choose for them or simply don't think about it. You gave it a thought and made a decision, that way it won't hit later when you are older.

When I was in Japan, I mostly slept with younger girls, and even when I visited prostitutes/brothels, I chose younger girls. With that said, there are lots of cute older women around, but the prettiest older women were usually already married, and they would be working their arubaitos for some extra cash. But cheating is pretty rampant, so it's not like those women weren't available too.

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I read the first chapter, it was good but I'm getting some bad NTR vibes from it. Is this NTR/Drama free?

What if my reason is I'm too worthless and fucked up to have an intimate relationship to the opposite sex? That realizing this, it would be better to be friends at most to any person instead. So no one will be hurt and suffer the possible consequences.

This makes me remember the LN where the characters are named based on Genji Monogatari. Best girl won the Koremitsu.

Just read the whole thing. It's really pretentious.

I really like this story, the realistic trainwreck is good. you just know the trouble is gonna get worse before its gonna get better.

Thankfully lesbian JAV is more popular than the normal JAV stuff. I wonder single or married women show up these prostitute/brothels to get away from the housewife and stress related work.

back to your containment board subhuman retard

36 is rather late for realizing this, but I'll let you in on this little fact of life. You see, you're not that guy.

>3DPD posters
>Normalfags talking about their love-life
Great thread you've got here.

wow this is garbage

How would she keep her relationships secret? And what might be the end of her story?

>too old to be /ss/

Women choose, not the otherway around. This is the one thing I stand by. Women are fickle and don't know what they want to begin with. They can change thier mind when something better comes along or not fitting checklist. If a man did choose them, they simply can reject that man's advances. Men are the ones at risk to always be shot down, and rejected. This can already fuck with one's psyche in confidence of self worth.

You're right for the wrong reason, this is only valid when dealing when dealing with normals, women flock to chads, who then get to pick which girl or dump them, the woman is just a pump and dump for them, he isn't at risk of losing anything.

>women flock to chads
Doubt, now it seems women flock to staceys. lesbianism is a helluva drug.

we are like monkey, the alpha/chad get all the females and others dont, fuck them fuck society FUCK

this belongs on /r9k/ not Yea Forums

Alternatively butch lesbians. I had a manager at a call center I worked at who was an extremely butch lesbian and had a seriously fucking hot girlfriend.
She was a pretty cool manager though, almost like one of the guys you'd go out for drinks with at a dive bar on guys night

>nobody has chosen me
Lmao, shows you the difference in mentality. Men constantly try to improve every aspect of their life just to have a chance to impress women and women just sit there waiting for someone to come to them.

First, they did improve and take proactive actions to impress men. Second, the society norms disdain on women being advanced. Most of them want good suitable men to settle in asap but most men dont want that

Nice. I hope the butch dyke is still with her gf. Still I think normal women will come to staceys more often now.

back to your containment board mentally ill faggot

>there

>Alternatively butch lesbians.
This isn't US.

Lesbianism is truly the future for Japan.

>32
>too old to have children

Japs are weird

you are fucking deluded now go back to your containment board retard

What's the name of this Manga. I always see it posted without name

Petit Heaven by Senke Kagerou

Absolutely based

But seriously now since Saucenao doesn't work for it, I believe it's from Domestic no Kanojo.

>retarded small hat

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She's so cute

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>3D cakes be like

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>cake thread
Nice

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boobs too big

Technically all three of those words are indeed words, but the way in which you've combined them makes no sense at all

Are you afraid of boobs or something?

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It's too bad her manga is shit

the secondary sexual organs she had are over the threshold limit of size that allow the optimal, efficient and effective visual and contact pleasure. the size of nipples and especially areola increase with the increase of volume of boobs, in turn, decrease the beauty of boobs because huge areola is ugly and associated with lactation which imply used body. Also, a larger boobs is usually less firm and prone to sagging, thus generally affects the attractiveness of bigger boobs.

i am afraid of vagina actually since JAV and doujin do not prepare me by censorship. Vagina is alien to men, looks like infected stab wound. They most probably are ugly with meat protrusion and heavily melaninized

ESL-kun please

I dated older women for a while, but then I realized I could be dating them 20 years from now, but my time to date younger women is running out.

i dunno but i think old men get young girls all the time but older and still attractive women have higher standards, they always tried to match your ages thus the older you are, the less the population of suitable women

If you're talking normal relationships, guys usually date younger women and women usually date older men. It's weird when you're dating an older woman. Like, I was 33 dating a 41yo. It's not unusual for a 41yo to be dating a guy over 50. So we'd go out with her friends and there'd be other boyfriends there who were old enough to my father. Or she'd compare me to weird ways to old dudes, like how happy she was my nosehair wasn't out of control.

I looked at this for a while and realized I could be dating women that age when I'm a gray-haired 50 year old guy. Meanwhile at 33 I could still date early 20s and not have it be creepy.

well, you are better than in life for i am NEET, useless as fuck but still dreaming about getting someone to love, fuck. why cant i fap away the desire for love, fuck

>Men constantly try to improve every aspect of their life just to have a chance to impress women
HAHAHAHAHAHA. is that what you call sitting on your ass all day playing fortnite with kids?

>Men constantly try to improve every aspect of their life just to have a chance to impress women
>said on 4channel
The lack of self-awareness is astonishing.

Coward

>fort
you try too hard

>Women choose, not the otherway around
Always fucks me up when people don't understand that.
>mom comes to visit and pick up some stuff they need for renovations
>happens to see my neighbour
>"What a pretty woman, why don't you just take her as your girlfriend?"
I don't know mom, maybe because she's a sapient being who can make decisions and her decision was that she doesn't like me very much.

too close to home?

then you have to fix that up. You are not choosing to be alone, you are letting circumstances and time choose for you.

Chad picks and chooses all the women he wants and they never turn him down

i wish my computer can run fornite, i cant play shit in this toaster

>Most of them want good suitable men to settle in asap but most men dont want that
Maybe I just interact with the wrong kind of women but I never got that feeling. What they want seems to be adventures and then they begrudgingly settle down eventually when they get older and that isn't an option anymore for various reasons, but not because they wanted to.

Because Chad has been blessed with looks that make him attractive in the eye of almost every woman.
Not that hard to choose and pick if almost all of them are into you.

you are not wrong, women have freedom now however the more they fuck around, the lesser the value she is

>"Those two chose one another and are together now"
>"Nobody has chosen me"
Bitch, are you for real?

>"Nobody has chosen me"
>>"Nobody i want has chosen me

Same. I don't want to just read teenage romances all the time but then the ones with older characters are almost always full of cheating and shit which I can't stand.

Could be like that (not that it would justify it any more, but still).
However, seems to me, out of those two random pages, that she is deluding herself into thinking that she deserves something whilst not fully, or at all, committing to it. Relationships require both parties to put effort in, not just sitting on yer ass and hoping it'll just happen out of its own LAMO.
I know this.

>At least I hope you have a great job with a nice salary to compensate.
I do, but it's pointless. The moment she realizes you don't have any relationship experiences she sees you as a boy rather than a man and all feelings immediately die off.
Catch 22 shit.

/ll/ for me.

>I hope you have a REEEEEEAL good excuse
I do. My parent's marriage was utter dogshit with 24/7 fighting and mobbing each other which really made the idea of relationships fairly unappealing to me.
That changed by now but I could still never give that as a reason to anyone. It would be an even bigger red flag than being a perpetual single at 30.

>REEEEEEAL good excuse
I might be addicted to porn and had some pretty bad experience with me parents divorcing and losing me colleagues (both because of me and without my input), that made me into a sorta recluse or whatever.
Believe I am beyond salvation hehe.

The right man for her doesnt have to try

>The moment she realizes you don't have any relationship experiences she sees you as a boy rather than a man and all feelings immediately die off.
There definitely exist women who prefer pure virgin boys, it feels more special and meaningful to build relationship with them.

no, I mean with good job with a good salary you are free to do what you want. Travel, buy shit, or support things you want.

I suck at finding any of them then.

Also, deathgrip a thing, so don't squeeze on yer thing too hard, kids.

sort yourself out, clean your room bucko. Improve yourself and ahem fuck your parents (not in a literal sense).

You are responsible of what you do now. If you really choose to be alone, CHOOSE but do not let someone else choose for you

You are this mad.

I already did sort myself out, but that doesn't change the fact that being a perpetual single at 30 is still a massive red flag. Even if the bigger red flag behind it has been resolved.

no its not

i doubt it. i spent years squeezing my dick way too hard, then i had to stop for three weeks due to having no alone time and by the end of it i was so sensitive that fapping was hardly even any fun.

>but that doesn't change the fact that being a perpetual single at 30 is still a massive red flag.

You are already making the wrong mistakes user.

>just helped an authentic nip christmas cake at work
>she said thank you
Heh, see you later virgins.

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>There definitely exist women who prefer pure virgin boys
the problem is that 30+ yo men aren't boys.

I've never read that but with women you're doing it wrong if you just expect them to "catch on" It's not really the girl there it's the guy for half assing his actions and pretending gifts and a dinner is the same as a kiss or holding hands.

>tfw almost there
I pretty much don't use anything but dating sites for partners because no real world hobbies or social circles and i've broken up with quite a few girls in the past because they wouldn't put out Next girl I should be fine though

If you have any helpful advice I would be genuinely happy to hear about it.

WELP

hobbies don't really work out, unless it's just an alibi hobby like bowling in large groups where you sit around 90% of the time.

I've only seen these relationships work out if the women is a corporate CEO/powerful politician and is too busy to manage her love life. Very likely she also has an average appearance. When there is subreddits dedicated to all sorts of kinks and onions culture but nobody posts in the stayathomedad forum, that tells you how little women are interested.

I only knew one family where the dad staid at home. The mom looked very average and was some higher up in a bank. so I guess from my extensive amount of sample data I can only agree with you.

Top reference.

Men have it hard, but it's a plain hard at all stages of their life
Women go from having the world at their feet to being social pariahs if still single almost overnight, that would be "the wall" And God have mercy on the truly ugly women

>finally seeing a thread with OP's pic related
>thinking we can talk about the series here
>instead we have a reddit thread.
I think I prefer the /ss/fags ruining this thread instead

/ss/fag here, i try my best. i like /ss/ because the women almost always love and accept MC in every way

Still better than having the thread overrun by spics

Isn't the one in OP unironically a roastie

Roasties can't be that cute

I really don't trust date sites but it will help you to socialize with more people and maybe the friend of a friend can be the girl/guy you are looking.

I also don't like conventions but maybe you can go there and find people with mutual interests. Women are not less participant than they were 20 years ago.

It looks like you are not choosing, you are just letting go. Be careful with that, regret hit the hardest when you get older.

Like I said before, if you CHOOSE to be single, it's ok. There is nothing wrong with it and many people around the world do it but voluntarily. Also do not confuse being single with living the life of a hermit. You can be sociable but single.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAA

oh, kids

t. 32-years-old

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she is but I give the series a pass and read it for the sweet trainwreck drama. This series has a 100+ chapters of it.

even she knows it

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Pretty sure the author is female by the way

Try being 35+ and still looking like a 5ft teenager if you shave, and dress a certain way.

Besides real life stuff is shit anyway.

>When there is subreddits dedicated to all sorts of kinks and onions culture but nobody posts in the stayathomedad forum, that tells you how little women are interested.

From that post you never had any experience working with females right?

My last gf was 11 years older than me (29 & 40). She was very reluctant to start dating me because she thought it was too big of an age gap. I guess it's different for women

>My last gf was 11 years old

>29
>haven't really talked to female outside my family in good 10 years
I'm sure i will be fine.

Unless that 11 year old had 36 E cups like she did I'll pass

Women don't have it any harder than men. It's just that they are used to everything being handed to them from when they were still young so the drop down to the level of a man who didn't put much effort into his life hits them extra hard.

Jesus, that's a lot of E cups. What does she need that meny boobs for?

never got this "you are not choosing!" thing. a relationship requires two people, him deciding he wants one doesn't mean anything at all if he can't find someone else who also wants a relationship with him.
it's not like changing the light bulbs where you simply have to do it.

>last girlfriend
>last
what happened man

I'm not measurement expert but that's not very big from what google is showing me.

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ewwwww, delet this shit

Every chapter of this series I couldn't help but think "Why couldn't they use some kinda saliva suction machine to transfer the spit, like every dentists has." "How have they not looked for more options beyond fierce make out sessions?"

I've developed SUCH a fetish for nervous/embarrassed faces thanks to this series.

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step aside all you plebs.

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forgot about this manga.
was pretty good, actually

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What are the essentials for someone interested in getting into christmas cakes?

This man speaks the truth.

The works of Sugi G.

Someone post the cake trap image

What is the name of this manga?

It's been listed multiple times in this thread
Petit Heaven by Senke Kagerou

Goddamn. Something about how you can tell they mold to the shape of the bra/clothes that's holding them all up I just love.

I really like her design too bad her series isn't fast in the development department. she deserves to breed while she still has the chance

>Men constantly try to improve every aspect of their life
lmao! sure thing, incel.

>look up the mangaka's other works
>There is an occupation called the "special technical staff." It is a secret job, which is to have sex with idols for Odaiba TV. But if they ejaculate inside the vagina while on duty, the penalty of vasectomy is awaiting.
Takuro Tsuyuzaki with a greatest sexual desire passed the employment examination performed for the first time in 30 years!
Please tell me one good reason why nobody is scanlating this

>>Please tell me one good reason why nobody is scanlating this
>not allowed to come inside
there's your reason.

>vasectomy
>penalty

Shenanigans obviously happen though. I would bet my left nut there's creampies.

Some women are ice queens

I feel you, but if it wasn't a slow burn, it would probably be done already and with that no more Takizawa (or he prolongs the series in another way). Good on yanbaru that he's doing well with it, but I hope if they eventually get together that it's not the end and we get bashful antics of an (inexperienced) older lady in a relationship.

>if they eventually get together that it's not the end and we get bashful antics of an (inexperienced) older lady in a relationship.
I dont get how the Nips dont see that this type of setting makes for a good story too, then again when it is attempted they botch it up.

I'm guessing that the interest in older women isn't big enough for a manga to explore it, although I do think the interest is growing when I think of the popularity off characters like Kaede. "Kawaii Joushi wo Komarasetai" and "Sensei Wa Koi o Oshie Rarenai" come to mind when thinking of relationships with older women so there's definitely some attempts here and there. It can only get more popular with time since I doubt there will be another influx of isekai in the future and siscons seem to have gotten out of fashion too (that or I just haven't been interested in it enough to know the current state of that trend).

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i want Game Over anime

doesnt even have to be older women(although I do agree I would like to see more in future series, so far the only ones who do it right are Josei magazines.) but the whole starting out, brand new couple and going through the awkwardness of a new relationship imo would make for a good romcom or romance story.

No they are right. It is a scientific facts that the best time to have children is in their teens and the quality of newborn deteriorate over their 20s. At 30s, they are basically austist factories. Children born to older mothers show a lower level of intelligence, physical abilities and social bonding than those of younger mothers. I am not a pedo but if we want a healthy population, we need to lower the breeding age to at least 14 and ban reproduction of everyone older than 30

what is a roastie

Woman with a cunt that looks like roast beef

>ban reproduction of everyone older than 30
while I do agree the younger (when attempting to conceive) the better. I don't agree going totalitarian on the issue.

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really wanna impregnate her

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Why didn't she get him fired for harassment?

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Because he's Chad.

It's like real life. That cute innocent looking girl from accounting? She's getting railed every night by some chad VP.

I just read Hakuba no Oujisama through the first volume cause of this thread. Am I supposed to like the Roastie MC? She wants to steal the male MC from his fiance after having an affair with the other male teacher? This really does feel like it's written by a woman.

you want the ending spoiled okay
she ends up with ozu which leads to him breakup with his finance and them dating. Thats what happens in the live action version don't know if this will change

I'm torn because in the one hand she is stealing another person's man and the dude ain't helping honestly. on the other hand the fiancee moved to England for a year leaving him alone in a all girl school. I'm glad the fiancee can trust her partner enough to go and do the long distance thing but the dude is obviously failing. I'm interested what the fiancee is doing tho too.

>Tfw I am older than most of the so called ,cakes

What's a good, wholesome cake manga or anime that ends positively for the cake?

drama is an adaptation of the manga

This one

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>fuck on the first date
>wholesome
wew

Ryuta Amazume loves putting stupid shit that turns off readers in his manga. Even what was probably his most comparatively wholesome series, Nana to Kaoru, got cancelled cause of his stupid fetish for turning off readers.

He's a virgin so it's pure

>got cancelled

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>the hymen in her heart is there, she's pure.

That started in 2018, 2 years after the original run got cancelled you dumb nigger.

>if it got cancelled and came back then it wasn't cancelled

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Who are you quoting?

Yes exactly

This needs an edit.

what manga?

I literally stopped reading on this page, is it worth continuing?

Read the thread, it's Petit Heaven by Senke Kagerou

It doesn't help that she's an antisocial drunk with tunnel vision.

>greentexting always means you're quoting some one
wew

Lurk for 10 years before posting again.

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only if you enjoy the anxiety and drama, old man brock is getting strung on her now that the young one is coming in. I think he might do something stupid and lose his family.

Where do you find someone like that? Asking for a friend

no you

hownew.ru

no-you.com

Depends on their upbringing and how they go from there.

Why the fuck is it that in every shoujo/josei series, the feMC has to steal her husbando from another woman, leaving that woman a shattered wreck?

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>Tfw you are now old enough to be a christmas cake
everytime i see a christmas cake or a young parent on an anime i die a little inside

Hakuba no Ouji-sama

You mean otaku and weeb's lives. Take gotoubun no hanayome for example.

Two cakes offer themselves to you, but you can only pick one. Which one, user? The one on the left is a 27-year old wedding planner who's good at fondling, and the one on the right is a 26-year old girl who loves drinking, works at a clothing shop and has a younger sister that everyone prefers.

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wedding planner

the alcoholic will shrivel up quickly and probably pick up a xanny habit, all the while stressing out about how much better her sister's life is and taking her anger out on you

Do you hate shonen manga series with teen MCs yet? No? You're not cake enough.

Female power fantasy. NTR is just logical extreme of shoujo drama

I'm warning you now, the wedding planner also likes to drink. She's very dangerous once she gets drunk, though. Just looking out for another user.

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i hate them but i still watch them, sometimes, but i hate hero academia for example

Tons of them do not have this trope. Rose of Versailles, Kimi wa Petto, Cardcaptor Sakura doesn't leave meiling a mess, Akagame no Shirayuki, Akatsuki no Yona, Special A, 7 seeds, Hatenkou Yuugi, etc most things scanslated by wingtip cafe

And I'm just naming some. Like, do you even shoujo?

shojo sucks so no, I tolerate Josei tho