Nothing about this twist makes sense

I did, I am not saying it makes perfect sense, I am just saying that is the way Araki intended it to be understood.

>Trying to find sense in jojo

wel this is around episode 120, and they were punching frogs back in episode 2 so I dont know what are you complaining about.

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He cut of his fucking tongue with a knife. That's not a stand related wound.
>Shigechi or Josuke were direly wounded.
No, that was just people being retarded.
>normies
kill yourself normalfag

Is Narancia the only one to get Solo fights?

Bruno vs the boss maybe? Giorno only did one thing really.

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Bruno vs Secco
Doppio vs Risotto
Mista vs Rolling Stones
Doppio vs Taxi Driver

Welcome to jojo bro.

Asspulls: the series

Dumbest headcanon I’ve seen in a while, and that’s saying something.

>O MY BOAT
>O MY VOLCANO
>O MY STAND THAT CAN ALSO STOP TIME
>O MY HAND FETISH
>O MY GER
>O MY UNIVERSE RESET
>O MY PICK UP THAT GUN
I mean what do you expect from this series?

Anime only here, it seems like every fight in part 5 has some plot point, most discussion I see is how stuff doesent make sense and poorly written, do the later parts get any better?

>O MY DETECTIVE SON
>O MY AMBULANCE

The thing is, most of the fights in this part have made me think "that's pretty clever" at the twists, even if not everything is consistent. This is the first that not only appears to me like the writer didn't put much thought into, but that even following his rules I could come up with better courses of action than the character.

Does Abbachio even get any solo fights??

No.

Diavolo vs Ghiaccio
Who wins?

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It feels like part 5 is making a lot more outrageous leaps of logic to move the plot along, like when Giorno turned a brick into a snake, and it magically conjured up a vaccine for the purple haze pathogen, which then cured giorno despite that not being how vaccines work?

Or really just Giorno's ability in general is just pure asspull.He's the least interesting character in his own show.

The stand IS a fake tongue. So if the tongue is a stand, only stand users would see it stabbed through the knife

He's still dangling a bloody knife in public and no one's batting an eye.

The stand attach itself to the tongue retard.

It wasnt a vaccine

The woman that Kira tried to use as his last gambit to reset time with Killer Queen Bites The Dust/Another One Bites The Dust could see all of Kira's woulds and both she and Hayato aren't stand users.

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Why don't the assassins just shoot them with a gun?

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Stands can block them

Egg

So? It's not dodgeball.

Is the existence of Chickens dumb to you?

Mista btfo I guess

What?

He gets donuted in one blow by King Crimson

Yes. Fuck chickens.

Mista has the advantage of being able to bounce them around but Sex Pistols is a garbage Stand and Aerosmith can easily do the same but better

and yet he lives

Aerosmith has low accuracy.

In dodgeball, if someone catches a ball you throw, you lose. But you don't lose a fight in real life because someone caught your bullet with their stand.

He told lies to freak them out a bit and get their attention on him and then cut off his tongue when he's sure he got their attention.

Why didn't Siegfried and Roy just wait until someone had to take a shit?

130+ episodes in and now you fucks think this shit makes no sense?

If you had a superpower, even if it was something egregiously stupid like possessing someone's tongue and making them say the opposite of what they want to say, wouldn't you want to use that to kill people with?

In Part 5? Or in general?

We haven't even gotten to the stupid shit in Part 5 yet, just wait until Rome.

In general, Part 6 is kind of a clusterfuck, but it finds itself in the latter half. SBR is a masterpiece. Have been holding off on JoJolion so I can't speak to that.

Jojolion is the best part.

How would you kill someone with Talking Head?
You can keep your victims from calling for help, but it's not like they'll need help unless there's another, actually useful stand, attacking them.

They don't have to catch it, having your punchghost out would block all bullets

>How would you kill someone with Talking Head?
Did you not watch the episode?

Strangle them with their own tongue
Doesn't matter if you can just spam bullets

>unless there's another, actually useful stand, attacking them
Clash was the only dangerous stand in that situation. Talking Head made Clash more effective, but I'm talking about scenarios where you could kill someone on your own with Talking Head.

A lot of early SBR is garbage

Why didn't Narancia just say the opposite of what he meant to say to get around Talking Head?

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welcome to part 5

Oh we’re talking about not making sense?
>shows up
>authors note says that Star Platinum is the worlds strongest stand
>jobs immediately
>takes a nap
>gone for the entire part
>hype slowly building for his eventual return
>shows up
>dies

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Tiziano seems to think he did when he turned what was presumably "they haven't gotten away" into "they got away"

He's old

"strongest" But how? Maybe since Diavolo is gone, but even then, being the strongest doesn't mean you can't be caught off guard.

This was so dumb. I assumed that Narancia was doomed to play into Talking Head because he's suppose to say the opposite of what he "intents." Then Tiziano and Squalo are pissing their pants when they believe that Narancia found them, as if they didn't know how Talking Head worked.

I was talking about when Giorno was taken into the canals, he wasn't even under the effect of Talking Head at the end anymore

That didn't make sense either
It seemed like the implication was that Talking Head's stand power is to just not let you say what you really want to say, period. If you can get around it by just purposefully saying the opposite of what you really mean, then Talking Head goes from bad to worthless

Both times are dumb. Both Tiziano and Squalo are going "nani the fuck" when they should be fully aware of how Talking Head functions.

Pretty sure Mista could easily fold Jobtaro in Part 6

>my Stand works only on liquid
>lets not keep some bottle with me just in case and let my partner bleed instead

He literally had a glass earlier

yea this fight sucked ass and these two had the most useless stand abilities in the entire show.

So you skipped over parts that made sense why he died.
Time was moving way too quick for star platinum to work effectively against pucci.

It worked alright, it was just that he was literally the only thing in the world that could actually fight him. And remember that he did have a chance to kill him, but he gave himself up instead. The fact that the "strongest" loses makes the underdog win later more interesting, even if the actual result of the win was pretty stupid.

It's Italy man

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giorno's stand is so fucking slow that it didnt stop mista from slapping him

remember how speedwagons abs could melt ice

Question for people who played the EOH game, why didn’t DIO just have The World Over Heaven punch itself to gain more abilities to beat Star Platinum? Like time skip, time reverse all sorts of stuff. Or make The World do other crazy stuff instead of JUST PUNCH HARDER

I could explain but it's really complicated and involves lots of bad writing

same type of stando powah

Secco really got screwed there considering Bruno is the fastest stand in the team and he was faster than him and outsmarting him most of the time. If he wasnt zombified he would have died at least twice in that fight, twice he also had to copy Seccos ideas.

..

>>O MY HAND FETISH
>>OH MY PICK UP THAT GUN
Rest I can get but how are these asspulls?

EOH is a garbage game.

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Of course special snowflake Jotaro had to get a hit in

It's really complex as a previous user stated.
It's like this:
It really just boiled down to referencing part 3 and believing that it would look cool or smart.

it's totally like the part 3 jotaro vs dio fight arent you amazed

I cant be the only one who notices the lack of censoring lately. Wtf happened? Last few seasons have been black as F and now we get very little censoring. I mean Bruno got chopped in half and it wasn't censored. Wtf is going on?

Different time slot.

if talking head was already controlling someone's tongue, it could just grab a knife or something sharp and cut the victims throat. idk how else tho

Why didn't he just do that then

I hated the guy with the bugs in his body, and I hated how little we saw of mountain tim. he looks like a complete badass but he gets shit on every time we see him

also fucking rip stroheim, at least he was a cute cameo

kek

No, and it's a crying shame.

yeah idfk man. lmfao, it's a fun fight but if you look too close it's pretty shite. they could've just gone to another rooftop with some sniper rifles and blown out giorno's head before he could even realize a fucking bullet was flying towards him but they didn't. it's typical jojo fashion-- look cool and do cool shit but don't actually be efficient in killing.

EOH legitimately made me like Jotaro less.
The sheer level of part 3 wankery and the fact that Jonathan got shafted as hard as he did are disgusting.

be pretty funny if the poor skaterboi impaled himself on something because he wasn't aware of his actions during timeskip

Why is OP asking these fucking questions? I thought this is just how JOJO works all the time. You aint gonna have to explain shit. Its asspull the anime. Isn't it? Isn't that he point? Did OP make this thread just to be funny? Am I fucking retarded?

>Am I fucking retarded?
Yes.

Star Platinum's true power is to counter DIO

That was one of them hypotermic questions

>hating a character because of a non canon game
Yikes

How come Unita Speciale have such shitty stands for guarding when they're supposed to be Diavolo's bodyguards?
Talking Head is borderline useless, Clash is extremely limited in its ability to attack, Notorious B.I.G. acts entirely on instinct and can't distinguish priority targets, and Green Day attacks completely indiscriminately in a massive radius, which runs the risk of the boss getting caught in the crossfire just by being in the same city as him.
Oasis is at least good, but that's just because it's strong, usable in all situations, and can be controlled by the user. It's not outright designed for guarding.

What the hell were they thinking with Johnny and Gyro's default colors in EOH?

>Yikes
Yikes

The censorship is a lot harder to notice this time, but it is still there. It is most likely because of the different timeslot.

Getting Metallica mostly uncensored will be great.

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>Having talking head be your stand
>Get killed by someone else with a better stand because your's is so shit
The real asspull is those two weaklings being Diavolo's elite guard. Only thing about it that makes any sense is that how secretive they could be when working together for assassinations

>KC
>Strongest Stand

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SAME TYPE OF STAND
STILL
I think its bullshit too and it would have been more interesting if DIO actually won.

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Yeah Araki really had to stretch it HARD to make the fight seem tense.

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>>Yikes
>Yikes
Yikes

SPEAKING OF NONSENSE

WHY DIDN'T THEY JUST SEND THE AIRPLANE AFTER DIAVOLO?

DIAVOLO CAN LITERALLY NOT FUCKING HIT THE STAND IN MELEE, BECAUSE IT IS FLYING

AND IT CAN TRACK DIAVOLO USING THE CARBON OXYGEN

Narancia didn't betray the boss until the others were already on the boat.

Diavolo could swat Aerosmith out of the sky.
It's easy when you can see the future and your stand hits like a truck.

REEEETARDSSSS.
the second tongue was made by a giorno. the third tongue was as well. the second tongue could only be seen by stand users.

>the second tongue could only be seen by stand users.
No

You are getting off the target here. Bystanders did not know it was s tongue, it looked like a piece of meat and honedtly any fandom personas would be Intrigues but they wouldn't shit themselves as Tiziano did. Which was what Narancia intended, only Tiziano would know what it truly means.

My autocorrect was acting up, sorry

Clash is pretty fucking good, it's just a bad writing. It should've killed Giorno in one bite.

It's pretty stupid when you realize that their victory was only possible because Giorno and Narancia were literally invincible.

You're gonna love when KC at 5% of it's power beats Aerosmith in a few episodes

>Green Day attacks completely indiscriminately in a massive radius, which runs the risk of the boss getting caught in the crossfire just by being in the same city as him
Which is why he tells his alternate personality to not go there until he's sure Green Day has stopped his rampage.

You don't see how that could become inconvenient depending on the circumstances?

>Green Day
Green Day is his literal last resort.

Did it really took you 5 parts to finaly notice that not everything in JoJo makes sense?

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Given that letting loose Cio and Secco was like the nuclear button, there are probably other guard squad members we never see

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>shark burrowing into your neck
>nuh-uh I still win because muh kakugo

>hey, we're an an elite assasination squad who's shown to take out standless targets in a group
>let's attack that stand mafia squad one at a time
There's something really precious about Araki doing this stupid shit. At times the plot is just that wonderful fucking butterfly that's so majestic and shit, but when you think about it for even a second, it doesn't make any fucking sense. At least in Part 3 Dio's mooks weren't a squad

Why did the anime cut out the signs that they were actually all buddies

>Stand related wounds can only be seen by other stand users.
t. Anime-only speedwatcher

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normal people wouldn't see the Tounge Stand

The restaurant scene exists

That's nothing compared to showing them actually caring about each others' deaths

>Ghia spreading her legs open

What would Prosciutto look like without his little hair ties?

>like when Giorno turned a brick into a snake, and it magically conjured up a vaccine for the purple haze pathogen
I'm not a biologist, but I suppose the idea is that because the snake is born in an environment where the virus is natural, its body produces the antibodies needed to fight it.
Giorno says it in the episode.

wouldn't they see his tongue on the knife point at the very least?

the tongue on the knifepoint IS the Stand

No, the tongue on the knife was his tongue

he cut his tongue multiple times. that's the Stand

That's an extremely stupid explaination (and I don't ,ean you're stupid for saying it out loud, that seems to be what Araki wanted it to be). Nothing about it is even close to how biology works. But to be honest, fuck it. It's not like we're reading/watching JoJo to enjoy a logically sound story.

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GUYS THE TONGUE IS NOT THE STAND FOR FUCKS SAKE

Golden Experience GAVE life to the ladybug. GE is the stand. The tongue is just something that was given life BY a stand.

By you guys logic, normal people would see Giorno with huge blocks missing from his body, since his body was patched up by himself in the Baby Face Fight

>guy whos peak ability is too fuck you over infinitely when shot
>lol nope
>guy whos ability makes your will to attack 0
>lol nope
>guy who can punch fast
>gets a hit in
EoH is fucking retarded

I'm not saying it's possible. We're watching a chinese cartoon about punching ghosts that can stop time, and people are shocked by a snake having antibodies.

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Suspension of disbelief only applies to the fantastical

To be fair, punching ghoss stoping time are a premise, and all the stupid and illogical bs is just that, stupid and illogical bs. But I agree with the more heneral idea of "who fucking cares".

agree to disagree

>We're watching a chinese cartoon about punching ghosts that can stop time, and people are shocked by a snake having antibodies.
That's a pretty terrible argument to make. Punch ghosts stopping time is their super power, they are supposed to do that.

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What got me was that they all had super cool designs. Does the manga have more interactions involving them? Cuz they seem like they could have been great if fleshed out more.

The anime actually added more than what the manga had

The manga has less interactions, they're only introduced as they appear

So why was everyone saying wow the real protagonists are the bad guys with their beautiful קשר and shit when they're just bad guy of the week

Gameplay is fine and fanservice is nice but story is just plain garbage.
Also Part 3 nostalgia pandering is basically japanese Jojo version of Kanto nostalgia pandering that Gamefreak does in Pokemon nowadays.

Because more or less, Bucciarati's gang goes on to do what the Squadra wanted to do, try and kill the boss.

If Risotto wasn't deadset on avenging his comrades (part of his character really, as shown with Sorbet/Gelato), him teaming up with the Bucciarati squad after some sort of scuffle with them wouldn't have been unusual.

if you are complaining about jojo, your iq must be too high for it

And also if the hitman team wasn't entirely composed of scumbags

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Hot like always. My folder is a mess right now so I can't post any pictures of it at the moment.

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Prosciutto would have a mullet.

As is the style for blonde Italian men

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It mostly looks like Dio was caught off-guard rather than Star Platinum being better than Tusk/GER.

Doesn't excuse the rest of the Jotaro wank though.

Maybe star platinium. But majority of stands is way to slow to stop bullets. Even Kars had pretty bad time from mere machine gun from WW2.

>"i waited for someone to react to me cutting my tongue !"

narrancia is Lucky that nobody gave a shit until squalo hit the groud full of holes

Having your stand out will block any projectiles

And stand users don't always have their stands out, and even when they do it doesn't cover every angle

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Kars casually blocked bullets from a gatling gun with one arm

Little feet and Kraftwerk were fast enough to block bullets, little feet was blocking multiple bullets fired from aerosmith. Blocking bullets is a casual feat user

>getting coffee for morning uni
>sipping on coffee in library
>hear familiar ost, look up
>dude with the worst glossed haircut and glasses is blasting the new jojo episode
>no one bothers to stop him
>he watches whole episode, even plays the full song of the ED cuz he likes it so much
>everybody in the library is visibly annoyed

Which one of you faggots was this?

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>who's shown to take out standless targets in a group
Risotto is the only one with knowledge of stands and stand users it seems and he's also the one in the extra anime scenes we don't see part of the group.

How could weLittle Feet block Stand bullets?

It makes sense if you remember Narancia is literally retarded.

Was he as ugly as Joshu?

Took me a while to realize the dots on Brunos suit kept increasing the worse his father's condition got

Sorry man, I didn't notice my headphones were unplugged.

>be me
>fujogf gets stolen from me
>want to impress fujogf and get her back
>buy some cool pair of glasses with dads money
>set down my Gold Macbook Pro in library so I look smarter than I already am
>start watching some weird show she likes
>someone tries to stop me, I pin them down with superior chad strength
>start playing the show at maximum volume while everyone cowers in shame
>chad stride out the library to get my fujogf back
How was your day anons? pic related.

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Phantom Blood but Erina is Scottish and just beats the shit out of Dio

I hope anime improves on infamous H.U.G.E. it was kinda sucky in the manga

I hope they spend the entire episode on Trish's foot

>Erina with a thick scottish accent and a claymore
Still a better protag then Jonathan

You're nuts, user

Why are you questioning the stand of someone who has the ability to give animals stands

To expose the shittiness of the writing

Black sabath?

The turtle didn't even do much why did he bother putting it in, pointless giorno wank

they already revealed his name, they're calling him Notorious Chase

Ill-Reputed Great Days

?

Didnt do much except save trishs life

Talking Head is an automatic stand, shooting it wouldn't do anything. How the fuck could a stand like that be useful at all if you could just kill it?

All he had to do was look for the two dudes dressing like they belong on a 2030 fashion show.
No tongue bullshit necessary.

It delayed him a bit, surely that could be achieved in ways that don't reveal that giorno can just infuse animals with stands if he has the DNA.

>How did Narancia know the ladybug would turn into a tongue?
It probably started turning into a tongue and he figured out what to do with it. Yeah it's weird that it looks like it's still halfway through the transformation when he's well out of the restaurant, but it's the kind of timing bullshit that you have to shrug off.
>How did it turn without Giorno being there?
Giorno could have infused it with life before disappearing, and it just took some time to start turning
>More importantly, how did it attach itself without Giorno to direct it?
Nothing suggests that Giorno needs to stick around, the very first thing he turns into an animal (the luggage turning into a frog) completes its metamorphosis when he's already left. He could have just created a tongue that would attach itself.
>Instead of shouting around, why didn't Narancia just shoot the Stand and look for the guy next to a dead body?
Wounds inflicted upon automatic stands don't reflect back to the user. While it's never stated that Talking Head is automatic if it wasn't it would be the worst stand possible, and we never see Tiziano control it directly.

As for other people reacting to the tongue being cut: if you fully understood the situation you'd probably be horrified, but if you saw somebody walking around with a knife with a piece of meat on it you probably would just find it weird and move away.

Could Giorno have cloned Diavolo?

It isn't automatic.

Could an animal comprehend his stand? Why can't Giorno just make humans?

>While it's never stated that Talking Head is automatic if it wasn't it would be the worst stand possible, and we never see Tiziano control it directly.
We see him use it to grab a knife to cut narancia

Kinda just zoned out the entire arc because of all the plot induced stupidity displayed by the others.

Reminder that JoshuuChad (ACT 2) could easily fuck over KC and MIH in a microsecond.

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Re-edited because I fucked up the stand Act number.

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One dot symbolizes a fragment that he stole from his father's soul

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rly makes u think

You must be a fool if you think you can 『stand』 a chance against my ZA WARUDO

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>Staying stat
Kek

Get fucked retard. Joshuuchads - 89
Everyone else - 0

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Full strip.

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Do you not fucking pay attention to anything at all?
Devo was found all fucked up by civilians.

ASSPULL

Why is this so funny

Because Joshuuchads are ultimate beings.

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based Joshuuchad

cute, nips are a bit too outward-facing imo

Interesting.

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REMINDER - LA SQUADRA COULD WIPE THE FLOOR WITH UNITA SPECIALE, EVEN IF DIAVOLO WAS HELPING THEM

>Trish lewd
>she 15
FBI.OPEN UP

I'm not a fan of your hypocritical questions, bub.

>Yikes
>Yikes
>Yikes
Oof.

based

REMINDER - JOSHUUCHAD COULD WIPE THE FLOOR WITH GER, EVEN IF EVERY STAND IN JOJO WAS HELPING IT.

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Every time I close my eyes I wake up feeling so horny that I STAND UP, Walk Like An Egyptian to the fridge to take a chiki cherry cola before taking a Roundabout to the Last Train Home.

New end song sucks how am i suppossed to wake up feeling so horny?

WAKE UP
HORNY
MODERN CRUSADERS ALIVE

post your favorite stand

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la squadra could wipe the floor with diavolo

Why does Narancia look so girly?

What a weird switchblade.

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Fuck no. Part 5 was really thing where i started seeing how hack Araki is and later parts don't get any better.

Why can't you say anything bad about this show?

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Guns are illegal

Damn, those pink short-haired girls are all alike.

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Mista has one.

Hayato

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Happy birthday to Abbachio!!!

>Wounds inflicted upon automatic stands don't reflect back to the user
Nice headcanon. This is exactly the same type of shit as Empress, whose user exploded when she did.

The whole crew probably would have died if Bruno wasnt zombified. Bruno baited Secco to target him knowing that the mold didnt affect him which allowed the others to escape his ground sinking. Green Day and Oasis have to be the godliest stand combo in the series.

>No cool hamon combo from Jonathan and Young Joseph
Shitty game

So does the last part of the ost come out today?

Last part is in 3 months.

Nigger

In a group argument between all the main antagonists who would win?
I think valentine will win.

>he actually put a real asspull for PB
gotta give you a credit when its due user, but you are still a faggot

Who?

Valentine has by far the clearest and best motivation, which is why he's the best villain imo
Yoshikage Kira is the only one that is even close

Diavolo wins by using Epitaph to predict everyone else's arguments and saying them first in a mocking tone.

I want to make out with him

>O MY ARROW

Can jojotards explain why Bruno is still alive?

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Now that I think about it. Diavolo would be such a prick to hangout with.

JoJo is poor writing. All of it except SBR.

Based

Shining Diamond=/=Golden Wind

But in a later episode he couldn't create life because it was too cold so how could the snake survive?

This big boy

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Crazy Diamond fixes things. Josuke's grandpa was already dead by the time Josuke got to him. Josuke could restore his corpse to perfect condition, but not bring him back to life.
Gold Experience imbues things with life and heals injuries by making new body parts and sticking them in. Bruno wasn't dead yet, just on the brink of death, so there was time to save him.

Kars has 400 IQ

>pic
patrician taste

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because its poetic the end

Because Giorno said so. The temperature was too low in order to create an animal or a plant but let's just say that Giorno's ability is always an asspull

He's technically not alive. His soul/spirit is puppetiering a corpse.

You are over analysing. It's poor writing. This manga was written for kids.

Valentine can bring other valentines to brainstorm. I bet valentine can outsmart Kars.

What track are you most excited for?

Bruno's theme makes me nut

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no animal can be born in the low temperatures of white album but animals can be born with immunity to a disease.

Viruses and cold aren't the same thing.
Viruses are survivable and are even possible to be resistant or immune to.
Meanwhile, the only animal in the world that can survive temperatures of -100 celsius is the tardigrade, and even then, it goes into stasis.

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He's not.
He's dead and just happens to be walking around.

Boss theme

i was always thinking that every normal person got into a trance when two stands users fight or something where they don't notice anything.

Like how the heck in part 4 the guy with the paper skills just freaking bring a taxi cab out of the paper with the driver inside and the taxi driver didn't ask shit.

or in part 3 where there was some stand fight and the driver was like "meh" i don't remember exactly what fight but later on dio vs jotaro battle ,Dio happens to sit in a car and make the dude drive and this one shure was scared.

Feelsbadman, fuck faggot black priest

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How would he? His stand has no combat abilities

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I can, I just don't want to.

They're buttbuddies they wouldn't fight without each other like the two on the hitman squad

>Shining Diamond
>Golden Win
fucking kill yourself please

He cut open his torso. It wasn't just his abs ya b.

Like when Han cuts open the tauntaun to warm up Luke in starwars

No, anything but FBI

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But faggot black priest is the one of the only good things that came out of SO.

>implying your stand needs combat abilities to be in a jojo fight

You mean "one of the multiple"?

this woman is 66 years old
this is the only jojo girl you're allowed to beat off to

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Even if the series is known for asspulls, OP is correct in his observation that the asspulls have gotten more frequent. It seems like every episode has one now, and they're less consistent within the world's internal logic.

I have noticed this too. Maybe you are retarded.

What reference do you want Araki to add to the series?

Catch me if you can!

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Probably the exact same thing the people working the anime were thinking when they changed the default color for Fugo aka they don't care

I'll never get over this

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Yeah

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More frequent? I remember part two starting with Josepth pullin a tommy gun and a bunch of hand grenades out of his ass and ending with nothing short of divine intervention. And then there's everything inbetween.

Part 5 makes even less sense comparatively.

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The stand attaches itself to a person's tongue you absolute fucking retard

I'm not sure. I think I started suspecting that things won't make much sense since the first Speedwagon encounter. And then I just chose to roll with it.

You can disagree but that won't stop you from being wrong and literally retarded

Some reference to 2000-2013 hip hop. Maybe a stand called G.O.O.D K.I.D and his buddy's stand is M.A.A.D C.I.TY

I love her. No other jobro hold the same place in my heart. I love her.

why did Donatella rape Diavolo?

aight im late, what are you guys talking about?

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>Suspension of disbelief only applies to the fantastical

The snake was half brick

7 and 8 are absolutely miles better you clown.

literally what happens in SBR

Empress is an automatic stand that tries to stab Joseph's throat out, what's your point

>Talking Head is borderline useless

IT'S SUPPOSED TO DISBAND GROUPS

WHAT IS SO HARD TO UNDERSTAND ABOUT THIS

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A switch blade designed by a man who's probably never seen one

b-but if stand no punchy it bad...

Unironically

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I can't wait for the anime. So many moments with ff.

based
an adequate stand for thetrue protagonist of VA

Yes, they have gotten much more frequent. And the asspulls you mention from part 2 are different.

The tommy gun is played up for humor, and the grenades establish Joseph's knack for sleight of hand.

Even the ending of part 2, while admittedly weak, still made sense within the logic of the world.

In part 5 the asspulls aren't even consistent. They break their own stand rules and it is much more noticeable because they're used as a contrivance to throw you off from the twist or continue the action.

>Explanation in line with explained lore that makes sense in universe
>MUH POOR WRITING
Why are you even here

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He cute

I thing I never got was how weather got his memory back when he was nowhere near his disk am I missing something?

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Talking Head and Clash would have destroyed La Squadra.

I'll be honest, you might be right, but it's still more entertaining then 90% of Part 3 a lot of stuff from Part 4. And when everything is stupid and inconsistent, it's way easier to accet something like Diavollo's stupid double personality.

mista is a criminal.

clash could solo risotto since he can only attack the user.

He's not right for going 'it's ok in my favorite part because Joseph is le funny trickster man'.

That had no bearing on its snake biology

Clash is easily countered by White Album. No liquids, nothing for Clash to use.

I don't completely disagree with him, but Part 5 is as goofy as any other one, except for maybe Phantom Blood.

>speedreading
user, Donatello Versus was the one who returned his memory disk as a fuck you to Pucci

So is every member of Passione.

Remember the dude that put Jolyne in that plane?
He used his stand to dig up future Pucci's corpse then took Weather's disc from it, then gave it to Weather as a final fuck you to Pucci

it still doesn't make any sense. If anything, what would logically make more sense if he created B memory cells of the virus, cause now all he did was just introduce a foreign substance in his body to fight not only the virus, but the snake.

Yet before Araki managed to got a switchblade right.

Did you guys ever drop (or think of dropping) a part? i almost dropped part 6 during bohemian rapsody

almost dropped JJL during Urban Guerilla
i fucking DESPISED that fight

I get how you feel. Urban Guerilla was terrible. So was the dragon stand from SO. But I never thought about droping a part.

I never really want to drop anything, but I do find myself getting bored with some parts. It was hard for me to get into Parte 5 and the same is happening right now with Part 6 although I was really invested at the beginning of Part 6. I'm currently at the Sports Max fight and I'm considering just restarting the entire part since I got bored so many times I barely remember anything from it...

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the final arcs are some of the best of all of jojo though
just pass through Yo Yo Ma and you're ok.

>sports maxx
damn and youre not even in the really bad part

>questioning jojo

Phantom Blood was so bad it put me off Jojo for 2 years

Almost thought of dropping it around Sethan/Alessi.

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it put me off for only 2 months
nice numbers

Hey, guys, how's it going?

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>How did Narancia know the ladybug would turn into a tongue?
because giorno did it several times already
>How did it turn without Giorno being there?
because giorno can give indepent orders to the stuff his stand affects he did several times already
>More importantly, how did it attach itself without Giorno to direct it?
see above
>Instead of shouting around, why didn't Narancia just shoot the Stand and look for the guy next to a dead body?
there could be several reasons, he doesnt know if its an automatic stand, squalo would know he can tell the truth again if tiziano died, etc. It was a gamble

any other arguements you want utterly destroyed?

OH HI THERE

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Are people who liked PB in the minority? I personally loved it

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when i first started watching it, i didnt really like it, so i skipped to the last 2 episodes
i actually started to get interested by jojo when i got to Battle Tendency

I actually enjoyed Yo Yo Ma's arc.

>O MY STAR FINGER
>O MY HAMON TRICK
>O MY NEW ARROW POWERS

>>>>>>

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I think he was just looking for a particular reaction. Yes people would be shocked to see some guy cut off his tongue, but only the enemy stand users would start panicking/breathing harder seeing him do that.

What? It was fun

He was egging them on before with the lie too.

The thing that gets me is why didnt naranchia just start saying the opposite of what he meant to say after they figured out the ability

quick jojolion question
So the head doctor is fake-out final villain and Yasuho's old bf is the true doctor right? Am I the only one seeing this played out?

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I thought urban guerilla was medicore. What'd you hate so much about it?

When did I ever say it was alright in part 2?

There is a definite difference between the asspulls in each part and being able to recognize the difference doesn't mean that I like one part more than the other.

You are literal fucking trash.

That seems plausible but honestly I'm expecting some weird time and space bullshit to start going down

i doubt someone with a hair THAT bad will be the main villain

but again, diavolo, pucci and valentine's hairdos were pretty bad, but come on

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mista is a true degenerate though, other criminals have respect to follow the law

If I some guy cut out his own tongue and then show it off, I'd be panicking as well.

Doremifasolatido is tecnically a worse Oasis that can carry urban
and i think that urban's stand is kind of dull and uninteresting to watch
as a whole, Rai's introduction wasnt a high point of JJL

I attempted to watch jojo years ago and put it off because I got stuck in the middle of phantom blood. Picked it back up a while ago and actually found myself enjoying phantom blood, even the parts I was re-watching. Not sure if my tastes changed or if it was just because I was excited to get to later parts.

That's a good explanation I thought parts of rais intoroduction where kinda cool like the ski lift and honestly until you mentioned it I forgot all about urban guerilla

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why does diavolo has those weird polka dots in his hair but doppio doesnt?

I take it Girono's Stand was kind of influenced by Jonathan's ripple since it could create life on the tree branches?

>why do two people with different bodies have different bodies?

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>Metallica
>Green Day + Oasis
>Final fight
Which are you looking forward to most?

Metallica

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all of them though im really hoping they do something to make the end fight better, dunno what though.

The rest of them

Green Day and Oasis > Metallica > Notorious BIG > Clash and Talking Head > Narancia, Mista and Abbachio beating up some random guy >>>>>>>>>>> Rolling Stones > GER

I would have cared more if they were cute dykes instead of the ugly monsters we got

Bruno literally died

This one for me too
part 5 has such amazing fights, even when the main gang isn't involved

name a better couple

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literally unable to

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imagine if Narancia and his two shitty solo fights were cut out of part 5 and the screen time was given to literally any other character.
would be the best jojo part

little feet is good

>narancia only haves 2 fights, where he kills the enemy
>the enemies he kills are best squadra boy and best couple of all of jojo

yeah, fuck him

They are in the minority. I think it's the best part.
Dio and Jonathan had a good relationship and it's difficult to find such a good relationship between antagonist and protagonist in later parts.
>skipped to the last 2 episodes
It's literally the best part since the beginning.

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I want to see Green day and oasis animated.

>not liking based little feet
faggot

Little Feet was a great fight

To this day I have no idea whats so terrible about PB. It shows its age, but some people talk of it as if it was a torture watching/reading it.

Both Metallica and Green Day/Oasis. Fuck the final fight

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only the middle is bad
its just completely horible compared to other parts
seriously, name a fight you actually liked in part 1, and not that "dio - jonathan relationship" bs

little feet fucking sucked in the manga (why did it go on so long??)
the anime did a good job with it but I think they still could have shortened it.

wrong again

yikes

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>tfw no risotto vs chocolate and secco

>Y NO PUNCHY PUNCHY?

naranciafags are the worst.
it was 8 fucking chapters and 2 episodes. for a solo fight involving the least important characters. the same, if not more, time than white album and the one fight fugo was in got.

>Y NO ORA ORA? THIS IS BORING!

>waaaaah anyone not gay for narancia has got to be a Jotarofag
pathetic. narancia might have the least interesting stand in the entirety of part 5, and it has nothing to do with the fact that it can't stop time or punch things.
to make things worse there is already a much more compelling character in the gang who shoots things.

>SHOOTY MAN IS MORE ENTERTAINING
Keep digging yourself deeper.

>mista
>compelling
yikes

Not even a naranciafag. The fight is good and the fact that both characters are irrelevant in their groups made it even better after the disappointment that was the handling of Okuyasu.

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>you will never take Trish shopping and pay for everything and carry her bags for her

>How did Narancia know the ladybug would turn into a tongue?

Read this sentence out loud and realize this show rarely made sense

Aside from Sheer Heart Attack, what other automatic stands haven't had their users take damage when they've been damaged?

Does Harvest count or is it more of a semi-auto?

Black sabbath and yoyoma

Multi-part stands are another logic bomb entirely.

Honestly the rules regarding stands make no sense at all the longer I think about them. They're just cool, and Jojo runs on the rule of cool, not logic.

the way I understood it is that Giorno made a Bruno Bucciarati with Bruno's corpse
it's him but not quite really

Are you claiming that Bruno is now a clone of the original Bruno?

No he gave life to brunos corpse, and his soul just went back in. Hes like a ghost possesing a dead body that still rots.

This doesn't make as much sense as Giorno simply forcing the 'life' of Bruno's soul back into his corpse. GE doesn't just create life, it manipulates it.

Black Sabbath, Bohemian Rhapsody, Tubular Bells, Rolling Stones, Thoth, and obviously all of the posthumous stands.

>muh fights
How to spot a brainlet shounentard

why are Bruno and Giorno faces drawn like a disney princess?

Because they're pretty princesses, duh

Narancia is probably my favorite character from the gang but if you cut him and Fugo out you really wouldnt lose anything important to the plot.

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>him

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Yeah, Araki kinda messed up by making the squad so big. He did remedy it a bit by having only 1 solo fight, but Fugo, Abbacchio, and Narancia still got screwed a bit.

I was rewatching some episodes, and I almost seriously thought Prosciutto and Pesci were going to make out. You know, with the whole extreme closeness and rubbing of faces.

Lisa Lisa is also like 70

Prosciutto belongs to Risotto tho, fish is just the retarded kid.

jojo BIZARRE adventure

Part 5. Dio sticks Jonathan's dick into everything and Giorno Giovanna is one of his many kids. Bruno is killed but becomes a zombie. Best girl Narancia dies, GioGio goes god mode and kills Diavolo multiple times. Polnareff becomes a turtle. AND YES, ABBACCHIO DIES, BUT NOBODY CARES.
Part 6. Everyone dies. Even Jotaro.
Part 7. The President kills Gyro Zeppeli. Johnny kills the President in all parallel worlds.
Part 8. Gappy is the new Jojo and he has four balls because he's made of two people, Yoshikage Kira and Josefumi Kujo. Johnny kills himself to save his child and wife.

Here are some spoilers. Help curb the cancerous fanbase by deterring new people from watching it.

Too late, you are already here.

You're not wrong, la squadra were all gay. Araki told me they were inspired by the sacred band of Thebes.

I care about Abba

Pesci is Prosciutto's little brother, you sicko.

Startdust Crusaders took me like a year and a half to get through because it was so fucking long and felt like a grind to complete

>smartphones in 1999

you could cut out fugo, narancia, and abbacio, and you would not miss out much. mista is the only gang member who plays a super crucial role in fights besides Giorno and Buccellati.
I think Abbacio's only contribution was flying the plain during the B.I.G fight

2001 bro

>Johnny kills the President in all parallel worlds.
That's wrong though.

I watched SC as an animeonly while it was airing and the pace never bothered me. The problem seems to be that people try to binge it.

mb yeah diu was '99, gw 2 years after
>GW is responsible for 9/11

I showed my friend Jojo back in 2016.
He got through PB and BT just fine, with PB requiring a little prodding from me, but he dropped SC right when they got to Egypt and hasn't watched another episode for around 2 years.
It's frustrating because I have no friends in real life who like JoJo.

>Diavolo died in the 9/11 attacks millions of times

Yeah I was trying to binge it and that was an awful mistake.
Jojo is best experienced 2-3 episodes/week imo

Japanese people have no soul
Italians do

>Local man too DETERMINED to die

I didn't mind it at all

The Boat condom still makes zero sense to me though. Or rather how nobody noticed it happening

PB and BT are easy to binge, but when the MotW format kicks in it becomes difficult.

I completely understand. The first half has so many retarded minor villains like that fucking orangutan that the show starts to feel like a really bad comedy. The second half was more bearable with villains like D'Arby, Vanilla Ice, and the final fight with Dio. That final fight was fantastic.
But I couldn't bring myself to watch part 4 because i was so sick of the grind. My buddy pushed me to watch it last october and now i'm 2/3rd into SBR. Part 4 is where I think most people can fall in love with the series, other than part 2.

If I had to guess, Zucchero deflated lagoon 1, brought it inside of lagoon 2, then deflated lagoon 2 and inflated lagoon 1 simultaneously.

I had to push my friend to watch the last couple of episodes of PB, and when I showed him the first episode of BT on the same day, he immediately fell in love with it and wished I'd showed him that first.

>Stand Fight Part 1
>Stand Fight Part 2
>Stand Fight Part 3
>Stand Fight Part 4
>Stand Fight Part 5
doood it's so good tho u gotta watch jojo!!!
if anyone were to ask me, i would tell them to watch like this
>first few eps to familiarize yourself with stands, jotaro, avdol, and kakyoin
>skip to meeting polnareff and watch that arc
>skip to the end of SDC part 1
>watch all the d'arby eps
>watch the ep where they're stuck in the desert fighting the sun
>watch the video game episode
>watch avdol die
>DO NOT watch avdol come back to life
that shit is so retarded
>skip to dio's mansion and watch til the end

I hope nobody asks you

kys

seething sdcucks

Allpartschad actually, episodeskippers arent any better than partskippers

Reading/watching jojo is difficult tbqhf. You have to be very open minded because almost everything changes between parts, even the pacing, which I think is the most difficult thing to get used to.
I remember when I started reading jojolion and I read it at the same rhythm I read the second half of sbr, and at one point I just wasnt feeling it. Then I decided to read it slowly, and I enjoyed it much better. You just gotta accept those differences and give parts a chance before deciding you dont like it.
But really all that stuff is what makes it worthy imo.

One thing I won't ever understand about this fanbase is why people love Part 4 so much. It's good don't get me wrong but I found a good portion of it kinda boring.

za warudo lmao amirite

>Green Day and Oasis have to be the godliest stand combo in the series.
Crush and Talking Mouth are better.

Normal abs can melt ice user. It's how bodyheat works.

>Allpartschad
This is the cringiest thing you Redditors have ever tried pushing here.

Thankfully it's died down a bit compared to how it was before

bump

>liking each part equally for each's ability to tell a story good enough to keep you going
>cringe
go back to your hole man

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Why did Narancia stop saying opposite stuff when he was with Mista and co?

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>His soul/spirit is puppetiering a corpse.
That applies to literally anyone.

No, I'm pretty sure most people are souls in living bodies.

The"strongest" as in the "physically strongest", not the one with the best ability. There was no stand that could come close to Star Platinum physical specs since The World was gone.

King Crimson is stronger. Crazy Diamond is also pretty close

>King Crimson is stronger
Source?

The world was weak as shit
>punches jotaro a bunch
>only breaks a couple bones
dio hits harder than his own stand

>King Crimson one shots everyone
>Star Platinum has to punch someone hundreds of times

That's just plot armor.

It's more apparent because they're a pair of breaths.

Star Platinum is shown to be strong enough to donut, but Jotaro isn't a murderer so he doesn't do it.

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And yet it still managed to go toe to toe with Star platinum in a multiple punch attack, something no other stand did.
KC one shots everything because Diavolo actually wants to kill his opponent while Jotaro almost always seek to only incapacitate them.
I don't remember having seen KC stop bullet in midair or breaking something as hard as diamond.

That's just because jotaro wants to show off and not insta kill everyone. He doesn't even use that much power except for last blow that actually send enemies flying.

>And yet it still managed to go toe to toe with Star platinum in a multiple punch attack, something no other stand did.
The world wasnt able to kill jotaro after hitting him a bunch of times. King crimson could just one shot jotaro. King crimson>the world

The World killed Kakyoin in one hit.

Wasnt it implied that SP was inside of Jotaro blocking the hits? We know The World is capable of one shotting (kakyoin). Also the world matched blows with SP which broke giant teeth as hard as diamonds

And yet it still killed Kakyoin in one hit, as a previous user said, it's plot armor.

Were they really as hard as diamonds? I thought it was just a figure of speech.

thats because kekyoin is a skinny twink

So was everyone that Diavolo fought

oh shit your right

t. Soiboi bugman incel cuck

Part 7 but that is only because characters. Part 8 is just Araki not knowing what to do anymore and only main character being likeable character.

>actually good part
>putting off
What a fucking shit taste.

>it was fun
IF YOU LIKE SHIT

Actually kill yourself please

Dumb speedreader.

>part 1
>actually good

Part 1 is super short which I appreciate.

not him but I should read the manga, no wonder people call the anime garbage

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The manga is pretty good but I don't know why the anime would be considered garbage

Part 7 is overrated as fuck because NPCs from Reddit think it must be good because it's no longer advertised as a shonen (it's still a shonen tho).

BASED retard

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>arakis donut fetish.jpg

So the new opening has a bit at the very start after mista kissing giornos hand that makes me think of another song, any one got any ideas?