Dragon Ball Super

what the fuck just happened?

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Question for mangafriends because google is hard
What color is gotenks's hair in the manga? Since trunks is blue in manga and purple in anime, are the purple pieces on the side of gotenks blue?

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HAYASUGIi!!

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Last thread was nuked and you fags thought it would be a good idea to make a new one

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haha, cool!

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Ok but what color is that

Why is Dragon Ball still posted in 2019?

i don't think toriyama has ever drawn base gotenks in color, could be wrong though

Yosha!

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What is the name of this form?

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I saw nothing wrong with the last thread.

Forma Obsessionado con Bejita

What is the name of this form?

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JOBBER FORCE ASSEMBLE

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FUSION FIGHTER
ULTIMATE POWER
SUGOI POWER

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Why is Jiren so strong? His power makes no sense at all. Frieza was the strongest organic being in U7 and a genetic freakshow in his own species so a 1 in million chance of existing yet he is a bug to Cell a gene engineered being who is a bug to Buu a mystic entity. As we can see you need science, divinity, or an extradimensional existence to explain powers higher than Frieza. Each race has a genetic peak as born power not trained power. Humans are crap not one was born with strength on par with Old King Piccolo. Saiyans seem to be around Captain Ginyu in genetic peak. Nameks are possibly able to be born as powerful as Frieza or even higher due to the nameless Namek. Thats nice but can a genetic peak be Jiren level. The answer is fuck no because god of destruction tier is so high it would take Goku trillions of years to reach it by training and Angel tier is completely impossible to reach even if you are a GoD who trains.

Lets give a probability estimate using other realities who have Majin Buu tier genetic peaks on average and SSG tier in the case of Dyspo

1 in a million
Perfect Cell tier

1 in a billion
Buu tier

After this point this will never biologically happen due to time

1 in a trillion
Buutenks tier

1 in a quadrillion
Buuhan tier

1 in decillion
SSG tier

1 in a vigintillion
Merged Zamasu tier

1 in a 10^60
GoD Tier

As you can see Jirens power is too ludicrous to be purely genetics so there must be some external force to explain it.

The "I got BTFO of my 2-0 argument" form

he fights a lot

DANCE, PUPPETS, DANCE

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It would take so much time to train to Jiren's level that the universe would be full of degenerate matter so like 10^70 years. Jiren's biological atoms would have long decayed into subatomic particles by then sorry.

you probably put more thought into it than the writers did

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There is also the fact training only makes you reach your genetic peak once you get there you cant get stronger no matter what you do.

universe 6 saga was the only actual good arc
the rest were shit and fanservice bullshit
cant believe people thought tournament of power was good

行くぞ!!

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Reminder that Dragon Ball is an awful franchise meant for children.

and you love it

>Cell: "SAY YOU'RE SORRY!"

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>literally a big fuck you to salagir and his namekian oc
based

Reminder that's what everybody acts like, in these threads.

True, people in these threads act like obnoxious manchildren.

I knew that middle-right panel reminded me of something

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These threads are usually worse than this though, for a Dragon Ball Super thread, this thread has been surprisingly restrained.

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So what's Beerus up to in the manga? He has been useless since the BoG arc and it's time to remind people he's the most powerful being in his universe that isn't an angel. I would appreciate more time for him that doesn't involve him bitching at people and eating delicious food.

It's because the shitposters are sleeping

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He's fishing, thinking about stuff.

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Whis noticed a significant decline of life energy on Namek and Beerus couldn't give a fuck.

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>Blueberry looks back
wow, yet another reused reaction image.
shit's piling up Toyo. stop being a hack.

NotGast survived and will fuse with Piccolo

grazie doc

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Why do they even have to get zunama drunk, all 3 of them are fast enough to cut off his whiskers before he could possibly react, they don't even need the giant scissors.

At least 1 piccolo isnt dead since he was seen in Bardock's vision

I figured out how to fix gt
Instead of Pan, Goku and Trunks it should have been just Pan and the boy she was on a date with in the first episode to play the Bulma role, then they pick up more allies during their adventures in space.

Спасибо доктор

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Just do Pan/Goku/Trunks but throw in Goten and Uub too

Doc, this dose.....it feels a bit weird......

>Uub
Make it oolong constantly complaining that he is way too old for this shit and you got yourself a deal.

Fuck off. Nobody cares about a random literalwho, Pan belongs to Goku.

Fuck you demyx

it should have been adult goku, pan future trunks AND a spacecop character like jaco
also a better villian
better aliens
better plot

even the filler episode of bulma gohan and krillin in fake namek was better than the entirely of GT

Here's an idea since you clearly don't know why people dislike GT.

Swap obnoxious Pan with Goten and have her be the irrelevant date-crazy character who's always on the phone. Then you give Trunks a pair of pants and make him a cool badass again instead of a bland 3rd wheel. Next you take all the characters who have nothing to do with the narrative and make them shine by developing them prioperly and giving them more screen time.. It wont fix all of GT's shitty problems but it's a start.

Your shitposts is a shitty problem.
Pan was only obnoxious in your dub, amermimutt. And that applies to the other characters too.

>yet he is a bug to cell

The only reason anyone had a chance against based lizard is because he never exercised a day in his life. He was as strong on namek as the day he hatched; Frieza's potential is completely unmatched. Even just training a short time and he makes cell and buu look like complete trash.

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The best arcs were the manga's version of RoF and the manga's version of the Broly arc.

the problem is it wanted to remake OG dragonball so fucking bad
they even made goku go naked multiple times like the og show
pan is bulma 2.0 except fucking annoying
trunks is sort of yamcha 2.0 except really boring
giru is robot oolong except no character

also vegeta is the villian again
buu powers again
dr gero again
lame ass aliens and planets, at least dbs ws interesting

the only good thing i can say is the dictator planet episodes were fun and the gba game was great

also weird hercule has been nonstop great in every dragonball series since the cell saga
they got his character spot on

FIVE

MINUTES

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>Rewatched GT
wtf it's nearly not as bad as what you faggots make it out to be. Super can't even come close.

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>cries "shitpost" with no basis
>unironically liking/defending Pan in 2019
>watching/having any knowledge about dubs
>randomly calling me american despite the fact I live in Denmark.

nice try panfag

This is the grammar of your average GT fan, folks.

Based

>Having any problem with Pan in 2019
>Probably wanted more Saiyan hair recolors

Not even a panfag. GT is just better. Try watching it again, and then compare it to Super.
What's wrong with it?

reminder in GT krillin is a cuck carrying clothes for spoiled marron and 18 and gets killed by 17
hes pretty much a cameo and i cant forgive GT for that

At least it's honest though. Instead of half-assing a fucking asspull that super did.

what you talking about, hes the most powerful human on earth

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That's hilarious, though.

woow, a character is living a family live
we CAN'T have that! He must FIGHT on-par with Super Saiyan Blue! Now that's GOOD writing!

Super goes out of it's way to make
>Krillen
>Tien
>Master fucking godly Roshi
>Android 17
>Android 18
Useful and full of life.

GT
>P...Pan
>mustache Vegeta
>cellphone Goten
>jobber Uub
>Swordless Trunks in cargo shorts

>Super goes out of it's way to make a bunch of shitty characters useful

GALO SENGEN

>krillin
agreed
>tien
does nothing, almost dies from the sparring match with piccolo gohan and goku
>master roshi
remember when the evil containment wave was so dangerous it can kill you? yeah lets just spam that
>android 17 18
agreed

GT
>pan
actual funny spunky character
>mustache vegeta
dad vegeta is cool
>cellphone goten
likable and makes sense
>jobber uub
might be the best moment of gt bro
>Swordless Trunks in cargo shorts
still is a cool trunks unlike super crying about mai

funny how you forgot to add gohan and piccolo in the list
hmmmmmmmm

its like it doesnt matter if you not goku or vegeta

>Useful and full of life.
Yes, let's have everyone miles below the saiyans train off screen and make them eligible for tourny. GT is way more pragmatic, it establishes that humans aren't as great as saiyans and half-breeds. They get a normal life, while they still gather on occasions. That's more "full of life". It's way better than super butchering everything. Also, strictly talking about the anime.

>Not even a panfag. GT is just better. Try watching it again, and then compare it to Super.
Look, to the anons who have not watched Dragonball GT, just watch and rewatch it with an unbiased view and then just say what you like and dislike about DBGT.
>This is the grammar of your average GT fan, folks.
This is relevant to Dragon ball GT, how?

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That only low IQ people actually like it? Wow the fact that it had to be explained to you really proves that point.

>Rewatched GT
>wtf it's nearly not as bad as what you faggots make it out to be. Super can't even come close.

This and Dragonball GT isn't perfect. But it not as bad as some anons make it out to be.

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>Mustache Vegeta

Anyone using this as argument proves they've never seen GT.

It's literally seen as a gag, and a fun one at that.

Besides, hasn't Super done this shit too? Oh yeah.

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Come over here and punch me in my perfect jawline!

>it establishes that humans aren't as great as saiyans and half-breeds.
Because they are in Super? Fodder fought fodder. In GT they are useless, it's not called Goku Time for nothing.

What would kefla think of dick pics

Beards are cool though.

>That only low IQ people actually like it? Wow the fact that it had to be explained to you really proves that point.
So, what you are trying to say is, that if I watch DBGT and happen to like it, then I am automatically low IQ? What?
What was explained?

Whose dicks?

other saiyans

goten, trunks, cabba

Batter up

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She'd probably laugh at their small size.

If you like something so trash then yes, it proves you are low IQ because you are being entertained by it. If you had a higher IQ you would understand how bad it is and thus not like it. It's like when you were a child and though eating glue was cool, but then you grew up and realized you were fucking retarded.

what about gotenks

Would she send anything back?

Same.

>Krillin goes fine with SSB
>Roshi has apparently been training off-screen
>17 has apparently been training off-screen
>Tien
Fair enough, I don't think they showed the other universes' feats. I might be forgetful though, so take that with a grain of salt.

No.

Damn she's mean

Ojamajo Doremi is getting a new movie.
youtu.be/lHphSHS8zPo

That's why we love her.

what about fat buu

>Satojun and Umakoshi
Toeichads WIN AGAIN

>If you like something so trash then
Based on your view.

>yes, it proves you are low IQ because you are being entertained by it. If you had a higher IQ you would understand how bad it is and thus not like it. It's like when you were a child and though eating glue was cool, but then you grew up and realized you were fucking retarded.

I disagree. Watching DBGT doesn't prove you are low IQ and can't be compared to eating glue. Can you not accept, that there are anons who like and dislike DBGT, I assume that anons recognize it's flaws and that's it really.

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who would she send nudes to? goku excluded

She will punch you for sending them, but furiously bates to 'em when she's alone

Cutegang, we should make this our daily bread

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Honestly I like GT and i'm just shit posting friend.

post things that could never ben in db today
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>lets take freezer and turn him into ivan ooze
>brilliant

Her own.
Her own

Wait a second, this isn't dragon ball.

>Honestly I like GT and i'm just shit posting friend.
That's cool. I mean, I know not every user is not going to like DBGT and it does have flaws. But I think it's great, canon or not.

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>who would she send nudes to? goku excluded
Probably Vados Mmmmmh

Assemble!
>3406241

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>Humans are crap not one was born with strength on par with Old King Piccolo.
The ox-king had a canon power level of 900 and he barely trained and didn't even know what Ki was.

Lastly, Jiren is just strong as fuck and was trained by a god and constantly battles beings that can slap Golden frieza's shit from an early age.
Even now Gohan has the greatest potential of any "Z fighter" and he trains even less then Frieza.
That's it.

Beings are just more powerful then others.
If you can't accept that but can except frieza just never trained a day in his life then you're just a fucking fanboy who stumbled onto DB yesterday.

I haven't given a fuck about Beerus and have actively disliked him since it wasn't revealed that he was the one who brought back and trained frieza to fight goku/become a god candidate.
Him doing fuck all except be Goku's instant win/get out of their dumb bullshit button is goddamned stupid.
Motherfucker didn't even flinch or show the slightest interest when that shit new broly was around for fucks sake.
The dancing fuck is he even around for?

>dbs ws interesting
No

>was trained by a god
Whoa, citation needed.

Also all the bare man ass.
I don't think anyone was wondering if vegeta had a tail hole, but they showed us anyway.

no women, user

This entire character.

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Kale and Caulifla are lesbians, so Kefla would be a raging dyke.
Also, there's a cutegang thread on /c/

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Does Super have the best soundtrack out of any shonen?

>raging dyke
>called goku hot

>making a loving relationship sexual
Degenerate. They aren't lesbians

nah but it's still surprisingly good

>BUY NEW BLURAYS
>But they'll be censored and also with shit nu!Yamamuro remastered box covers.

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>Referring to his body heat
>Literally hot
Yeah, no

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This canon picture proves that they are in love

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If Cell inherited zenkais, I don't see why he wouldn't inherit that.

Thoughts?

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It has a couple decent tracks but so does Bleach and even Naruto.
Still out of the shonen jump adaptations, Death Note will probably always have the best OST

It’s easy, someone with the potential of Frieza or Broly just have to train to archive GoD level

No imagine Jiren,he doesn’t have the natural born potential of these two but has been training for thousand years, he never reached that power by magic stuff he trained his ass for who know how many thousand years to reach that level

Is it? This just looks like a bunch of canned presentation effects and clips from season 1. What an awful promo.

I prefer this beard than his mustache in GT. Despite that I liked his hairstyle(a little different) in GT.

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And still weaker than post-ToP Goku damn the world is just unfair

GT, despite not being bad, is the pinnacle of wasted potential. It had a lot of ideas and tried to go back to DB's adventuring routes like it was in the original series before the Saiyan Arc, but the way said ideas were executed caused it to become flawed on so many levels.

Despite these, it gave us SSJ4. Compared to the recolors we're getting in Super, monkey man at least stands out and feels like an actual upgrade to the Super Saiyan line. Bonuses for the fact that it a) ties-in with the whole Saiyan thing with Goku and Vegeta and b) also is a nod to Sun-Wukong The Monkey King. THE character who inspired Goku's creation and who himself wouldn't be out of place in a battle shonen considering what kind of crazy shit he does in Journey to The West.

Guts has a much larger one.

I really resent this

>Despite these, it gave us SSJ4. Compared to the recolors we're getting in Super, monkey man at least stands out and feels like an actual upgrade to the Super Saiyan line.
I agree with this. However, it's only in DBH and I'd really like to see more of SS4 in Super.

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Every thread should be a Cute Thread

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Incest is wrong.
Goku will be dead soon anyway, saiyans may stay youthful longer but I'm pretty sure they don't live any longer than humans do.

>I agree with this. However, it's only in DBH and I'd really like to see more of SS4 in Super.
Yeah. Sadly. I didn't watch the Broly Movie, but I heard the titular character got something akin to this form.

Bulma's family including herself are supposed to all be purple.

Anime made Bulma's hair blue from the start and decided to stick with it, while her dad and Trunks got purple correctly.
Super randomly decides to have future Trunks match Bulma by switching him to Blue.

>wrong
So is kid Trunks dating Mai and yet it happened. Your point?

user, the suits at toei are raping the corpse of DB and throwing every stupid goddamned thing they can think of into it ot appeal to people who didn't like it before and won't like it after.

Kefla
Gay future goku and zamasu, gay whis, the flaming dyke magical girls, I can go on.
It's all bad.

The GT trio is so random and lack any resemblance of chemistry. Well, Pan and Goku interaction is great but I dislike the idea of Goku turning into a kid for that.

Only had 4 good ideas.
Piccolo having dragon balls, majuub, baby, and dragon balls becoming corrupted.
And the last one was both a retread of the first good idea and inspired by DBZ.
The IDEA of SSJ4 was good but the execution of it was terrible

As for original DB adventures?
No one really liked that part of DB.
It's just shilled as awesome because of nostalgia. The series was going to be shitcanned until the frying pan mountain arc.

>The IDEA of SSJ4 was good but the execution of it was terrible
Yeah. Magenta didn't fit Goku. Vegeta looked better in that regard with his redddish brown fur.

The magical dissapearing shirts was also idiotic
And the red should have been fucking brown and their eyes red.
It makes no fucking sense.

Then their tail being forced to grow back through stupid means was even more retarded.

Should have just wished for them back or had the kais use magic and had them keep their tails.

Yeah. All this what you listed should've been worked on better.

Useless characters that never do shit are obnoxious by default

Man talks funny how you guys agree that both amount to spic shit

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>Trunks dating Mai
Ew.
The editors who pushed for that should be fired.

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The Yurin episode was pretty close to that

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Shitlifa/Putifla/Mierdifla is a fucking garbage character that will never return and that's a good thing

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more relevant than Gohan considering she showed up in some form (Kefla) as opposed to Gohan (nothing)

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So is everyone okay with Broly being the strongest saiyan at this time, barring UI Goku and all fusions?

What about romaine sama

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indifferent since dogly is never coming back

>Saves entire franchise
>Shit character
Nice try Sanchez

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That was the case ever since Movie 8 Broly.

Hrs entitled to his green waifu and grumpy alien associate. Whether he comes back or not is irrelevant

>>Saves entire franchise
But that's Broly

No.
The movie was just poorly thought out fanpandering shit that shrank the universe so small that it feels like it's choking the fandom and it retconned too much.
Fucks sake it outright states that prince vegeta and raddits and nappa are just cold blooded evil anomalies and all of the other saiyajins are goody two shoes. Even king vegeta is nice
Not even going to get into how base Goku fucking outfought a Broly that was overpowering ssjblue Vegeta or how goku could sense broly on the other side of the goddamned universe and teleport there.

It was poorly thought out nonsense and the toriyama movie that we were getting about the first super saiyajin was sacrificed and raped by hack writers.

Nu broly is trash and the DBS universeis a massive clusterfuck of poorly thought out marketing decisions.

It depends. In the very first chapter Toriyama colored Bulma's hair turquoise but completely scraped it later, then during the whole manga and the next years her hair was purple, however Toriyama is senile as fuck and sometimes he forgets his original colors and adopts the most popular ones (like making Trunks' sword grey when all his swords were golden before) so he ended up making Bulma hair blue (not turquoise, just plain blue) for Super.
The only rule is that Gotenks, Trunks, Bra and Bulma ALWAYS have the same hair color, the "most canon" options are either purple/indigo (for the original manga) or blue (for Super) so depending what you pick Gotenks' hair would change too.

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>i don't think toriyama has ever drawn base gotenks in color

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>Millions of years old incel power can't be explained
>Broly is only 40yo and he's stronger than Jobren because he fought for 2 hours
>Goat is getting there in a couple of days too with gimmicks

Who cares

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Actually

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Would you like Super more if it maintained the same feeling of Z?

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And

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Why so assblasted user kun?

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So Toriyama?

Broly was a hit, because of the succes of Super which was a hit thanks to these two

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>The amount of GT pedros ITT
Fucking pedos, your garbage series nearly killed the franchise for a good reason.

Do you like El Golpe Desnudo?

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Waifucucks ruin everything

>Broly not coming back
He has been one of the most populat characters of Dragon Ball WORLDWIDE for years despite not being canon. They always cashed on him whenever they could. Now that they have a good reason to exploit his popularity I fucking bet you he's going to become a main character.

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Is this the "I bet my right hand" guy?

If Broly isn't the single strongest fighter then nothing makes sense.
No one will ever beat him 1v1, there's no one that can fight that could.
The sooner some brainlets accept this the better for them, they know Broly is the shit and super shilled by the powers that be.
Hiding behind memes and then cry when Broly does something is all the haters seem to be able to do.

>replying seriously to a seething jobhantard bait

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Something that has always really bothered me about Super is how it handles establishing villians for the series' newer power scaling.

When it was introduced that Goku and Vegeta were becoming as strong as essencially Gods, I really looked forward to villians that were more complex than "they are strong because they are natural prodigies". Almost every villian in Zs strength just comes from them being created inhumanly strong.
I thought Super, with it's god level scaling, would force the franchise to avoid this mindset when creating villians. Beerus was okay because he WAS the god that Goku had to go against, but then after that we got
>Frieza is back to being as strong as Goku for almost no reason
>Universe 6 competitors are as strong as gods just because they are
>Same for everyone in the ToP
>Goat Wizard
>Broly is just straight up a Saiyan who was born stronger than even possibly Beerus just because
The only villian that felt like it was handled well in Super was Goku Black. His strength had an origin that made sense and would be believably stronger than a god. Especially with the wish to be invincible.

Seriously they blew it designing villians for Super

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thanks doc

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>No one will ever beat him 1v1
lmao couldn't even touch Whis. Whis was using Ultra Instinct LMAO

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I how Cell Faggots & Dub retards pretend like Funi "fixed" Cell's return when it was actually more stupid.
>"Every Cell has a life of it's own."
So by that logic Cell should've regenerated from all the blood, Spit, and Tail he lost throughout the arc. Funi made and even worse plothole. Face facts people this arc was a mess and nothing you day can fix that. Fact.

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But Moro is exactly what you wanted, he's not "a strong guy because", he's a wizard that uses your own power against you, he's not naturally strong, he just takes advantage of the ones that are strong, like Goku. He and Black are the only realistic ones in that sense

I'm admittedly not caught up with the manga. Thats good to hear.

and Jobren got keked by Ultra Instinct lmao

>Blue Popo
>Purple Pilaf
>Purple Bubbles
>Kid Gohan's clothes


jesus, tori really forgets everything

Green Korrin too

and of course yellow shenron

>Universe 6 competitors are as strong as gods just because they are
Goku and Vegeta trashed them in base and regular SS. Just Hit, a 1000 years old assassin with hax powers, was a challenge.
>Same for everyone in the ToP
Most of the fighters in the ToP were weak as fuck. Jiren was like Goku and Vegeta. He trained all his life.
>Goat Wizard
He is using fucking magic

Maybe my problem is just with Broly

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Cope.

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Thots not knowing their place.

Concede

186149550
>Whis can't fight back
>Whis can't defeat Chadly
What was the Jobrentard thinking?

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You should read it, he styled SS2 Vegeta but had nothing to do against SSG Vegeta on his own, his power relies on a magic spell that manipulates the living force of the universe, he attacks and defends using the whole planet against his enemies and even the energy of the people is absorbed into him so the more they fight the stronger Moro gets and the weaker his enemy gets

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Where's my third person middle aged Chichi action game Reeeeeeeeeeeee

>battle game with playable middle aged Chichi whose special attack is taking her opponent over her knee and giving them a spanking never
bros...

To be fair, other than Golden Frieza the manga pretty much gives you what you want. Hit jobs to SSG, Black/Zamasu is a threat because pink SSGSS and godly magic, Toppo explicitly has God ki when introduced and beats Goku in their first match, and Jiren himself was trained by Belmod's friend from before he was a GoD. When Goku is describing Moro's ki to Vegeta, Vegeta briefly ponders fearfully if he was sensing godly ki.

So yeah, gods get respect in the manga.

Not a single character in the U6 tournament should be able to body a blow from Blue Goku or Vegeta. None of them.

Dejá de robar las imagenes de Taringa

I’ve always had my own headcanon explanation for Cell’s survival after Goku blew his upper body to bits: Frieza’s dna and Piccolo’s dna work in a perfect loop; the former allows him to survive ridiculous, otherwise lethal shit like having your upper body obliterated, the latter allows him to heal from non-lethal injuries.

not canon BTW

>You need to sense someone's ki to IT to his location
>Goku constantly uses IT to go to king kai's planet
>despide king kai having god ki, which Goku shouldn't be able to sense

The best and cutest character in the entire history of the franchise, bar none

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why must you ruin every single dragon ball thread between you and the hxhfags idk what's worse

That's not Dyspo

delusion Lv.99

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>waifufriends improve everything over the usual wave of shitposting in this thread
FTFY

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>Jiren himself was trained by Belmod's friend from before he was a GoD.
How old is he on the lowball?
From there we can gauge his potential when compared with Freeza and the saiyans.

So beautiful

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she's so fucking ugly, i cannot comprehend how you people like her, honestly it's probably just 2 faggots that like her. spamming every thread like always

waifufags are literally nigger imnigrants, just get into the thread made for a specific purpose and fucking ruin everything with their shitposting

>implying that they weren't already ruined by the avatarposting
>the mangavsanimeposting
>the spicposting
>the memeposting
>the pedoposting
>the pastaposting

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You say that when characterfags like Jobhantards only purpose is to flame and start shit up every time.
You see anyone else doing this?

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Question for Lorekeepers.
What is the deal with Saiyan Beyond God and Super Saiyan God?

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Toriyama dropped the idea

No real indication is given on Jiren's age. He could be as old as Goku or as old as Hit.

>cherrypicking the 1-3 good looking episodes from a series that has 131 episodes
super will always be hot garbage

Gestalt about it please? I've read many things I'm confused about it.

>off-model fanart
cringe

eat shit

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Only high gods have god ki, like the Kaioshin. Regular Kaio are gods only in name, like King Piccolo's good side

...

k

Toriyama wanted SSG power to be in base form. Then he and Toyotaro realized a new series wouldn't work if Goku and Vegeta base forms were SSG tier so they scrapped it and made SSG just another form they can use at will, and later even Toei followed the same logic (ToP).

Where in the manga they kinda retcon the thing exactly?

All Cuteifla is beautiful

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Hit jobbing was bullshit tho. He was too cool to job like that.

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Since the start, in Beerus arc Goku never dropped the SSG form until the end, then in Champa arc Goku went SSG against Hit, and they used SSG in every other arc too.
SSG in base form was only used in the RoF movie and the promotional oneshots Toyotaro did for it

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UGLYfla

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>shitlifa

>new series wouldn't work if Goku and Vegeta base forms were SSG tier
Why not? For the sake of "lol I was holding back"?

Rude

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SHE A SHIT

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>dead series
>dead thread

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C U T E

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Yes?
>scenario #1: At practical level Goku and Vegeta are in SSG form all time, when they aren't SSG tier they are holding back the extremely powerful power they already have
>scenario #2: As usual Goku and Vegeta are in their shitty base forms most of time, they will only be SSG tier when they consciously transform into SSG

#2 sounds way less retarded than #1, and less confusing. Some people still think Botamo, Magetta and base Cabba could beat any fighter from the Buu arc

where is this form? DId i miss a chapter where they all look retarded?

Nani the f%^*?

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>Ane-san~

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Underrated

>Some people still think Botamo, Magetta and base Cabba could beat any fighter from the Buu arc
Because of RoF (movie and anime) used the saiyan beyond god idea. I was kind of shocked when they used the regular SS forms again in U6vsU7 arc

>H-hai, onee-sama

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So Saiyan Beyond God is just trying to mimic Super Saiyan God without transformation. Reminds me of the Super Saiyan Full Power (light yellow no aura) where they tried to mimic being in base form as super saiyan, as far as I get it its not that good since we never saw it again specifically as that.

Hello hi is this the designated shitposting thread? *ahem*
Look at this Shin

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>Señor Vegetta, mi esposa necesita tus labios real!!

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But you've already kissed her

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BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP
SNNIF SSNIF SSSSSSSSNNNNNIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
SNORT SNORT
MHMMMMMM YEAHHHH KEEP FARTING MY MOUTH KARIFURA CHAAAN

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Risu has always been a neet.

caulifla is for bejita

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I want to put my dick inside Califula's ass fuck her hard then get it out full of shit then I'll make kale lick cali's shit out of my dick , then I'll make out with kale while cali pump the cum out of my dick

Nigger what

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Botamo can only beat Toei with his QUALITY whenever he is on-screen.

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Caulifla needs to be brutally and horrendously abused. She needs to be battered to within an inch of her worthless, pathetic life. No matter how hard she tries to fight, there's nothing she can do to stop it. Every ounce of energy she expends only hastens the end. With every single blow she experiences more and more pain. Eventually she can no longer even summon the strength to defend herself.
She's shoved to the ground. Still flashing that defiant gleam in her eyes, she's rewarded with a broken arm. The pain is excruciating. She hasn't cried since she was a child. It slowly begins to dawn on her how grin the situation is. Caulifla tries to crawl away leaving a trail of blood behind her but it doesn't help. This time she's treated to a broken leg. The bone protrudes out from the flesh.
Her clothes are torn off. She's told how disgusting she is, how revolting her physical appearance is and that nobody would ever want her for a mate. She says that it isn't true. If she wasn't so weak then she wouldn't be in this situation. She protests but the truth of the words can't help but resonate.
She's flipped over. She feels something pressing against her asshole. Summoning what little strength she has left, she tries to clench. It doesn't work. She's violated in the most horrific manner without consideration or care. Blood leaks from the new wound. She squeals and squirms and cries and pleads but it falls on deaf ears.
She's never experienced anything like this before in her life. The pain is unbearable and the humiliation gargantuan. She's told that it's the only thing she's good for. She's a failure and without this, she might as well be dead. She feels like death would be better than this. She doesn't get her wish. Only a warm feeling inside her ass followed by more pain.
She's yanked up by the roots of her hair and slapped repeatedly. The sting burns as much as the tears.

Next time she's going to get it even worse.

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Cell literally has no limit to how strong je can get due to infinite zenkai loop. Buu can just absorb beings to become stronger. Zamasu is a monster as he is stronger than Super Buu. Friezas growth rate makes no sense it should have taken him several centuries to catch up.

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遠からず。

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Moro is magic so his high power isnt improbable.

It's from a porn comic where he fucks his grandma I think

It's called Kamehasutra or something

@186154270
That's a very old pasta

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Why is U7 so fucking weak? Its strongest beings come from one planet and Z Jobza would die to the actual jobbers in each universe's team. Yes even that cutie un U10 that was first eliminated could kill Z Frieza with one punch. Caulifla and Cabba were born strong meaning Caulifla back in Z times was already stronger than Super Buu. And then theres Jiren who as a kid was probably as strong as Super Buu.

hot

Zamasu is the strongest Kaioshin in the multiverse.

>Humans are crap
Ahem... Android 17 and 18. As far as I know the only mechanical parts are the things on their hands.

>not one was born with strength on par with Old King Piccolo
This I agree since Androids were modified but still used the base Earthlings (not with terminology human=ningen) genes.

Jiren is super broken because autism unironically. So he was able to work is body out to a point of strong power. Besides I always felt he was a reference to one punch man which got stronger due to autism as well.

I think U7 is a universe of getting better through sheer willpower and courage. You know shonen. Besides it seems U7 have a thing for unexpected seemingly impossible feats due to intelligence something like time travel. Also reminder Dr Gero saved U7.

Because it's an universe managed by irresponsible and retarded gods. Just imagine how many planets Moro and Buu fucked in the past. Or all the races that were killed by Freeza's army.

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youtu.be/VEnV1pnuD2g

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Is Caulifla 6's version of Goku?

Cabba seems to be Vegeta's 'versal-switch, and Kale is clearly Broly's.

the Dai Kaioshin was probably much stronger pre Moro

>I always felt he was a reference to one punch man which got stronger due to autism as well.
Jiren was Toei's attempt at getting back at Screwattack for letting Goku lose from Superman in Deathbattle 1 & 2

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No because Goku is genetic shit as his own mom was basically a god in the original Dragon Ball due to how weak he was. Caulifla is a freakshow as without training Cabba a fucking elite in base will job to her and she reached two SS stages easily compared to the effort of genetic garbage like Goku and Vegeta.

Yes. That's exactly why they belong together.

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How come U6 thots are more popular than cheelei?

Even the South Kaioshin was probably stronger than Zamasu. Zamasu was only the strongest Kaioshin of the present era

Man, now I'm thinking about how things would've been if Goku actually married a saiyan girl instead of that bitch chinchin.

>draw Cabba
>call it a girl
That's why

Shitlai is nothing more than shrek waifubait

Super Broly in base is stronger than LSS Z Broly.

I always felt Jiren was a reference to

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would have been the worst for goku, no earth cooking.

More members of the cutegang, obviously

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Yes but that can very easily be explained by
>"The plot requires everyone be quickly advanced closer to SSJB because putting every Saiyan sub-character through the rigmarole of Z+ would be stupid"

It's exactly the same reason Saibamen >= Raditz.
Because when you say it out loud looking at the full time-structure of the show, it seems silly, but in the context of the Vegeta/Nappa arc, they needed some
>"ha-ha! look at how powerful we are; even our pawns are as strong as the strongest guy from the last arc"
shit to go down.

Power levels (especially when a catch-up is required) will be what the plot needs them to be.

SSG can destroy the universe by generating so much energy the actual spacetime continuum collapses(those ripples you see when Beerus and Goku clash). Meaning anyone above this can destroy a universe. So Cyanku can destroy all 12 universes in one go.

>beautiful
>strong
>affectionate
>aesthetic
>graceful
>massive potential

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Because Chirai and Gine ruined the movie.

Shut the fuck up retard

That was beyond bullshit. That is why the movie was the only good version of Battle of Gods. THe anime and the manga ruined it. Fuck Toriyama, fuck Toyo and fuck Toei.

>Meaning anyone above this can destroy a universe.
Not necessarily. Or at least not so simply; an unstoppable force needs an immovable object in order for the paradox to work.

A "god-tier" power (not including actual destroyers i assume) can no more destroy the universe directly than one can destroy a lake by punching the water.

I wish tardku never came back.

Kefla made a statement she could destroy a universe as well so maybe we use her tier as universe busting instead.

Female saiyans are ugly though.

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Just release at least 56 yottafoes of energy to make the universe collapse its easy for anyone God tier.

This, Gine is the worst thing to come out of nuDB

Looks like Toyotaro isn't the only Kingdom Hearts fan

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Only because Jobhan IMMEDIATELY went back to being a pussy-ass bitchboy, right after the Cell saga, and never managed to maintain, or claim back the fiber of character he attained at the end of Cell.

>shitty fanfic artist have shit taste in games
Who would've guess?

>Ahem... Android 17 and 18. As far as I know the only mechanical parts are the things on their hands.
Their entire bodies were upgraded by biotech and enforced with machinary.
You're talking about 19 and Gero. Who were, to be honest, the more dangerous androids.

>>not one was born with strength on par with Old King Piccolo
>This I agree since Androids were modified but still used the base Earthlings (not with terminology human=ningen) genes.
Ox King has a canon powerlevel of 900.

>Jiren is super broken because autism unironically. So he was able to work is body out to a point of strong power. Besides I always felt he was a reference to one punch man which got stronger due to autism as well.
He got stronger due to constant training and fighting super powerful enemies in a universe without Dragon Balls and an active GoD.

Wrong

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I guess then, it's the same as "anyone more powerful than the mean energy level from the saiyan saga can blow up a planet".
Sure, they can do it - but why? It's like being proud that you have a sledgehammer in your garage, and could deliberately knock a load-bearing wall in your house down at any moment.

Rude.

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>Manga came out 2 days ago
>Literally nobody talking about it anymore
Based unpopular fanfic

>tfw the ending is already revealed

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BASED

Ugly dykes.

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My sides are in orbit

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>funxexydragonball

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...

user, the canon explanation for her ridiculous boosts in power and skill means that she can't be Goku's expy.

I mean look at her. She gets super forms out of nowhere, is a dyke, and can't fight her way out of a three sided wet paper sack.
Kale is basically a creeper dyke stalker, and Cabba is a useless shitter who can't fight and can't get super forms and is less useful then Tien during the fucking cell arc.

The whole they're the opposites of the U7 saiyajin thing was a marketing lie.
That's all.

They retconned that retardation out.

Only because Toriyama himself thought the very idea of a saiyajin god was retarded and he made a red headed ass ugly nozawa nod form that was quickly gotten rid of and called shit by goku in canon.
It did two things. Allowed SSJ1 to be goku's only needed form by powering it up AND gave him an entire expanded universe filled with super powerful gods like beerus to train and fight with.

Then RoF came and just shat on everything and super came in dug up the corpse of db and started raping it.

Taller and stronger

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No, Toriyama's canon base saiyans are hardly stronger than what they were back in Z.
Caulifla was compared with namek saga Goku, SS2 Trunks with SS2 teenhan

I mean ignore this, somehow I missed the" Broly is stronger" and not base saiyans.

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Buu arc was the peak of the franchise

kefla could beat up beerus
shes the best

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>BRA-SAMA YAMEROOOOOOOOOO

>the female goten and trunks
>they'll be train by piccolo and learn the fusion dance
>will soon job to the next villain
Hybrid saiyans are shit.

Based Soiyans!

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holy chad

GO! GO! GO!

>That looks ugly
Found the fag

Any incels in here? We wanna beat you up!

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>AAAAAAAAAAAAAH BURORI SAMA, SMASH MY WIFE INSTEAD!!!!!

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>unironically the best couple of the franchise
What went right?

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>female saiyans only become warriors if they are genetically fit for the role while the rest are baby machines
Based

>The GT trio is so random and lack any resemblance of chemistry. Well, Pan and Goku interaction is great but I dislike the idea of Goku turning into a kid for that.

So, anons here like, dislike and like and dislike DBGT.
What would have made different to DBGT, to make you anons say "no flaws, will watch it again and will hold DBGT in high esteem"?

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>Moro stomped jobren and went after Chadly but lost
You shouldn't have leaked that

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EVERYTHING

But Krillin/18 and Gohan/Videl are way better

>Krillin/18
Maybe
>Gohan/Videl
Fuck no

>don't get any "couple" moment after they actually become a couple
Nah

>Fucks sake it outright states that prince vegeta and raddits and nappa are just cold blooded evil anomalies and all of the other saiyajins are goody two shoes. Even king vegeta is nice
King Vegeta specifically banished Broly so nobody can challenge him or hi son for the throne.

Paragus killed and ate another saiyan so him and broly can survive on planet Vampa.

I don't understand how you think the Saiyans were goody-two shoes. The saiyans are just tame because they'd get BTFO by Freeza if they didn't specifically follow Freeza's rule. But the entire race jobbed anyways.

>best couple
I don't think so

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Close

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This Kale reminds me of the female Thor, gotta have muscle to be credible as a fighter.
Caulifla and Cabba spaghetti limbs are a fucking joke.

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>marrying a robot
>better
Nigga...

Goku has no arc, just fighting, that's it.
No one else gets any attention so the only competition would be the MC, but since he doesn't care about his own family, Vegeta and Bulma win by default.

marrying a robot is better than marrying a slut

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What do you think are the highest and lowest points of the DB franchise?

Namek saga
RoF (particularly the Super version) or Buu saga

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Highest is Demon King Piccolo Saga
Lowest is Resurrection F Saga

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>This Kale reminds me of the female Thor, gotta have muscle to be credible as a fighter.
Based and cutepilled

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Honestly Vegeta feels much more like the MC nowadays, at least in the manga

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>highest
youtu.be/in7K7Otyp6Q
>lowest points
Most of GT and the anime versions of BoG and RoF

WHY CAN'T THEY LET HIM BE THE HERO OF AN ARC JUST ONCE BROS

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It isn't.

Ah yes As soon as you hear this cunts voice, you can instantly picture him. A gelatinous, mongrel spic, almost a bastardised joke on the human form made physical. He literally looks like propaganda against racemixing from the 1800s. This dumb, ugly fucking beaner is constantly incorrect about predictions, pirating the anime and manga (then whining when he gets caught) or else jerking himself off over twitter. He genuinely thinks he’s a big shot, you are literally some fat fucking Paddy who talks about anime to a fanbase of 10 year olds. You are fucking nothing. Fat fucking monkey retard.

So cute

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>Vegeta saves Esca
>Esca apparently has healing powers and saves Vegeta and Goku in return
might not be full pottery but it's at least a vase

Vegeta is a good boy, he deserves it

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Excluding GT:

Highest is Namek

Lowest is Resurrection F

Including GT?

Show respect for the final boss of Dragon Ball

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>highest
Saiyan-Freeza
>lowest
GT

Reekdom101. As soon as you hear this cunts voice, you can instantly picture him. A gelatinous, mongrel spic, almost a bastardized joke on the human form made physical. He literally looks like propaganda against race-mixing from the 1800s. This dumb, ugly fucking beaner is constantly incorrect about predictions, pirating the anime and manga (then whining when he gets caught) or else jerking himself off over twitter. He genuinely thinks he’s a big shot, you are literally some fat fucking spic who talks about anime to a fanbase of 10-year-olds. You are fucking nothing. Fat fucking monkey retard

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Toyo is smart enough to shift the focus to Vegeta because the anime will shill the fuck out of Goku as usual.

stay envious loser

DB is dead
Some mongrel at Toei thinks fans want Goku time, but we just want Z back, the show that everyone loves, the show that Goku spent half the series either sick or dead.

He's Irish you cunt

Redpill me on Masako.

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>we just want Z back, the show that everyone loves,
Why is it so hard to create a proper successor to Z. We had 2 attempt and they were both shit.

Is Z just too good for a proper successor?

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>Show respect for the final boss of Dragon Ball
Apologize?

>imypling official fanfics count
Then the final boss (so far) would be Hearts.

>Then the final boss (so far) would be Hearts.
Why don't we just say everything is canon?

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based. goku is fucking shit. which is why everyone hates GT.

Did someone say apologize?

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Why is it so hard to create a proper successor to Dragon Ball. We had 3 attempt and they were shit.

Is DB just too good for a proper successor?

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Cry more.

Because that's a lie

yes

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based

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Goku isn't shit, he's boring.
Now we don't get a Piccolo arc, or the kids fusing to fight against someone, we get nothing.
Only Goku, and Vegeta only shows up if he is with Goku, otherwise he gets sidelined like he was in the entirety of the ToP.

What happened to Vic?

>Now we don't get a Piccolo arc, or the kids fusing to fight against someone
Thank God for that.

maybe headcannon but I feel like just unlocking god mode seems to have given them both a bit of an overall boost

They seem to fight more in their base form than they do even regular ss

Power creep in a nutshell:
So Goku has defeated a dragon well guess he gotta beat Roshi, and since he beat the Red Ribbon Army the most dangerous terrorist group on Earth I guess humans suck so we need some nonhuman villains. Uh King Piccolo a nam- I mean demon yes the demon king Piccolo. Oh no he got beat uh Piccolo Two-Jr! Oh no he got beat uh fucking aliens the same species as Goku yh Goku is an alien btw. Oh no they got beat uhh more really strong aliens and one that looks like Satan.
Oh no he got beat too, uhhh cyborgs that are somehow stronger than the really strong alien for some reason. Oh no they are lame well lets try some attractive white teens instead. Now we are talking but oh no RoSaT beats them so uh uh a genetically engineered super warrior yes thats it!
No he got beat so what do we have left? Aliens? No Science? No Whats left cmon? I know fucking magic so a magic demonic bubblegum thing that uh uh kills the fucking gods of the universe yh thats some serious threat there.
Ok I think thats it for now but because I love Goku so much I will make him a god so he fights a god that looks like a cat.Ok we are done..

Fucking weed and smoking hoes

Because people want to fuck Female Goku and not feel gay.
Not saying it's a good reason or one I like, but a reason.

>Would you like ok thing more if it were more like good thing?
Of course.

Continued

Holy shit Goku is strong better make him a kid do we can have a plot. Now lets see we used magic demons, aliens and science so uhhhhhhhhhh
FUCKING ALIENS AGAIN and they are as strong as Buu because fuck you thats why and then there is a alien who connects with the saiyan storyline. Oh shit a second arc lets use cyborgs once again no one will judge ahhaahahha. Final arc lets just use magic and not just any magic but the ultimate magic the shadow dragons and the boss omega shenron is a threat to the entire fucking universe x1000000000000 compared to Majin Buu.
At long last we dont have any more villains thank god.

imagine complaining about narrative in a show directed exlusively at 5yo boys

>retards call her mere """waifubait"""
>First non-fighter character in a while helps the plot move forward and actually has character
Why is she living in your heads rent free?

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GO FUCK YOURSELF.

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Tell that to all the people who complain non stop in these threads

Psych you thought this would end? Oh no we are just getting started ok clearly Goku and Vegeta are too powerful for anything to exist in their reality to defeat them so we gotta use other realities. Frieza's back and dies oh noo, well lets use those other realities. So Goku is strong as shit so uhh the strongest mortal in unvierse 6 Hit is his name and he is the arc villain and doesnt lose. Oh no we need a new villain I got A FUCKING EVIL GOKU FROM ANOTHER UNIVERSE!
Thats briliant! We will call him Goku Black because Goku Dark sounds gay. So how do we connect him? Lets use the gods again the weak ones a guy called Zamasu so Goku is now fighting a literal god like Son Wukong its poetic. Oh no Zamasu is gone uhh the strongest mortals in all the universes minus 4 of course are the new antagonist.Boy that ultra instinct crap makes it impossible to write plots I guess Ill just make is so it never happens *raughs*. We need a movie villain? I got it Broly only hes even more ridiculously powerful than his previous incarnation.
Toriyama senpai you have nice ideas but I got a good one for the manga sensei. A magic fucking goat magic never fails in being great villains.

shit character, kill yourself.

Stay mad.

No an argument.

>

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Because no one would care if she was a boy

This. DB females are only like for their tits and ass.

Are you talking about Bulma? Because it sounds like it, waifuretard

>Because that's a lie
True.

But what if we pretend it's all canon?

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>>First non-fighter character in a while helps the plot move forward and actually has character
So Bulma

Pan is built for BBC

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Nice bait, the "green Bulma" meme has been drawn out son, but keep coping.

>no one else can be a relevant non-fighter character except for Bulma because she did it first!!

>seething this hard
Yikes

...

Do you like el cabron?

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>retards call her mere """waifubait"""
>First non-fighter character in a while helps the plot move forward and actually has character
Why is she living in your heads rent free?

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Toriyama mentioned in an interview right around the debut of Battle of Gods that Goku had absorbed the power of Super Saiyan God to his base and wouldn't need transformations anymore aside from basic SSJ. He even said we might never see SS2 and 3 again. However, the movie itself was never as clear as that. Goku absorbed -part- of the power of Super Saiyan God and power ups his base and SS forms from that, but it's never outright said he's just as strong as a Super Saiyan God and he even power ups into it again at the end of the movie briefly.

Bandai ran with Toriyama's interview quote though, marketing the RoF versions of the characters as "Saiyan Beyond God", which were even stronger than Super Saiyan God while in base. The Revival F movie itself once again had no clear quotes indicating that base = SSJ God, just that Base was very strong now.

Eventually though, with the Dragonball Super manga, followed by the anime later, it was confirmed that Saiyan Beyond God didn't really exist and that Super Saiyan God still was a transformation available for Goku and Vegeta.

Does anyone give a remote shit about that shit arc? I just speed read through it because of how generic boring shit is. And now its the new trope to make the MCs lose to everything even though they are GoD tier

I like character progression and reveals about Grand Elder Kaioshins hitting rewind to far reaching effects good Arbiter.

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>posting girl goku

Current Arc is reminiscent of the Namek Ark where Frieza, here Moro kills countless Namekian's to get the Dragon Ball.

Current Arc is reminiscent of the Namek Ark where Frieza, here Moro kills countless Namekian's to get the Dragon Ball.

>most unique antagonist in Super related to old unexplored lore is "generic boring shit"
>Goku getting his ass kicked a new trope
Leave, shitposter.

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you forgot the one that started it all

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no its not that its not anything. it was a one shot deal and isnt relevant anymore since it doesnt exist. in the movie goku absorbed his ssg power, but thats no longer canon ive never seen "saiyan beyond god" even used in official material

Shitty waifubait and we'll never see her again.

The hell is Dragonball Heroes? Should I watch that or is it fanfic/crossover tier? Is it canon? No spoilers

He didn't lose that one, Yamcha ran away when he saw Bulma before they could end the match

what is the best season of GT?
the final one?

Milf Bulma >>>>>>>>>>> waifubait Dragonball Bulma

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they fought twice iirc, the first one (the pic) yamcha won because goku was hungry, and then the second fight yamcha ran away from bulma

>first question
A gacha game that got a promo anime some months ago

>second
Only if you are bored

>third
Of course not what are you smoking?

Baby Arc > Shadow Dragon Arc >> Super 17 Arc.

These are the same one, Yamcha kicked Goku ass with the wolf fist because Goku was hungry and before finish him Yamcha saw Bulma and ran away

>argument
*reminder

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time patroller goku > goku black

Same, I don't get the hype toward it, the beginning of black arc was much better than this boring goat arc in both version

Something as relevant as a DB game intro, it isn't canon, and why are you asking permission to watch it you fucking cuck?

Correct

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So it's just a inferior freezer arc?
Can toyo and tori do anything else than reusing their old arcs?

for it to not be so boring. the only good arc is the shadow dragon one since it gives a real consequence for using the dragonballs and even then most of the shadow dragons were lame

introduce a new villian that takes powers from goku friends

So black goku 2.0?
Even black was much more entertaining and refreshing compared to this goat

3-0, when?

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*reminder

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golden cooler
if you think thats cool, sure

>Gokek won't ever be the fun yet serious character he was in DB and DBZ because Raughiyama went full senile

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I want to watch Beerus give Bulma the barb.

>how goku could sense broly on the other side of the goddamned universe and teleport there.

He could teleport to Namek in the Cell Saga in 1 second.

I liked her the most during the Androids arc

The manga is marginally better mangadex.org/title/28586/super-dragon-ball-heroes-universe-mission

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>Black stole the power Goku and Vegeta was using
>Goku but evil was more interesting and refreshing than an anti-powerlevel wizard that controls the life energy of the planets and people to attack and survive for millions years old
Stop trying

No. It exist for fanservice, shitty waifus, and for characters like Jiren and the U6 thots be dump there.

Kekbba

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Yes the evil goku was much better than a goat coming out of nowhere but somehow has the God tier power to do something that goku should be able to do too (genki)

>It exist for fanservice

just like Shitper

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>the legends were true...

>coming out of nowhere
>when his backstory has been explained already

>god tier power
>when he can't even defend himself from SSG Vegeta's attacks without magic

>Goku should been able to use the magic spells Moro uses
>because one technique he uses uses genki too
Not even another (You)

How can anyone compete with CHADly?
The only character outside of the MC that constantly gets merch and high quality figures!

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If only he had been there to save Goku from jobbing. If only.

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Moro would have been great back in Z when Goku wasnt too powerful for a plot to exist.

broly grew in a fight what took decades to frieza.

>And now its the new trope to make the MCs lose to everything even though they are GoD tier
You get what you deserve, you want Goku?
You get Goku, everyone else was made to irrelevant to job to build up the villains.

That looks nice.

gt circlejerk

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N-Never showing up again....ahahaha...my man Go-ohan just got a keychain the other day....pfft...

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Based.

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dragonball went to shit when it became the vegeta and goku show

>his merch outsells Gogeta merch
gogetabros......

But that's wrong.

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How about it, Billy? 3-0, when?

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Speaking of 3-0, how do you suppose it will go down? Will Vegeta have to corner him into it? Will Goku just concede?

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Beerus is shit

What about the Angel level Jobren, that iconic character, is he getting the good stuff too?

PS: this line has a FPSS figure if I remember correctly

Mad

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How about it? TKO? KO? Any guesses for 3-0?

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>Jiren
>angel level
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA

((dot))

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Of all the things to shit on in DBM, why shit on that

youtube.com/watch?v=_t-LYV2iG4c

I can't believe Toriyama just skipped over 4,5,6 and 7