Why do zoomers hate the Dragon Ball franchise so much to pretend people only like it because of nostalgia?.
It does go downhill after freeza but 2 mediocre to bad arcs don't really trash the entire series, it's still far better than every modern shounen series if you don't count hxh jojo and one piece as "modern".
Also by Dragon Ball i'm talking about from volume 1 to 42
Why do zoomers hate the Dragon Ball franchise so much to pretend people only like it because of nostalgia?
I would erase some volumes till the end of Freezas saga, yet the rest was also good. DB has lot of rewatchable value. I tried some anime from my childhood and some of them are shit or mediocre and I don´t mind admitting it, but DB was one of the good ones despite its flaws. I could have read it for the first time as an adult an still think it´s good, like it´s happening to me with one piece.
Literally nothing but fights
>why are there fights in a battle manga
Zoomers I know either brainlessly love Super or hate anything DB related but haven't really read anything about it, because it's and old but popular work.
I don't know what do you mean by "modern shounen" though, there is good stuff like World Trigger and a lot of shit, just like in any genre and in any time period.
Super is okay. Replace the Beerus arc and the Frieza's return arc with their movies and you realize that the problem with them was the terrible pacing, which was done much better in a movie. The only truly bad part of Super was the Zamasu arc. The movies I mentioned are good, ToP is good, Broly is amazing.
>every modern shounen series
That's not a high bar, battle shounen [which I assume is what you mean] is pretty much uniformly terrible.
Giving something a term doesn't make it good.
The fights are strategically uninteresting.
Read the fucking series
It became this but it wasn't like that at the beguining.
>Frieza is the strongest in the universe
>A random Earth scientist creates robots stronger than the strongest in the universe
>Pink bubblegum genie is final boss and is even stronger than robots stronger than strongest in the universe
Dragon Ball is retarded.
It’s written for teenage boys, of course it’s retarded.
>muh grandma goku
This is untrue.
This does become true, however.
because it's shit for kids
>ToP was good
>Constant asspulls
>The most boring primary antagonist in the series to date
>Any character with an interesting gimmick beyond the standard punches and kicks were one note jobbers
>There being basically no tension in spite the fact that the stakes had never been higher
Sure there were parts that I liked, like Roshi being relevant for the first time in decades, Toopo raping Frieza, and the final battle against Jiren, but I wouldn't call ToP good as a whole
>Goku trusts Raditz and releases his tail
>Raditz doesn't finish Goku ASAP, deliberately not eliminating the adverse scenario (Goku holding him) that almost finished him seconds ago
>Piccolo tells Raditz about the Dragon Balls
Even in Shurato, the first arc's antagonist knew to lure a homing attack back to his attacker.
This would be a fair argument if it wasn't for the fact that most db hating zoomers also praise shit like my hero academia
Buu saga was the most entertaining though. Also full of great designs and new abilities.
They do? Didn't most of the early zoomers grow up with it, just like the millennials?
My Hero Academia is unironically superior to Dragon Ball
i dont care about trash zoomers, db is shit and mha as well
>Watching DB for strategic fights
because there are too many asspulls, the pacing is way too slow, and you always know that goku is going to do some retarded thing like let the villian live, and after freezer the power levels make no fucking sense
You just answered your question yourself, they're zoomers.
Hating Dragon Ball is just a teenage phase and they're going through that
>Frieza
toonami fags are so retarded, how cant you not follow basic story progression.
Self proclaimed strongest in the universe. The only asspull about this is that both newest strongest beings just so happen to both be made on earth.
>Also by Dragon Ball i'm talking about from volume 1 to 42
I think the majority of its fans have never read the manga in the first place, it's so much better than the anime it's not even funny.
It's isekai tier trash. The only decent thing it had beyond fights is world building and lore which has been abandoned. I don't ask for anything complicated but with it's length DB franchise has accomplished very little storytelling.
Most modern shounen try to plant philosophical themes with all the depth of a puddle in their stories(see naruto for example). DBZ doesn't bother with that shit.
>watching anime to see two button mashers competing to see who's the most retarded
>>Pink bubblegum genie is final boss
based toryama making a bubblegum the final boss couldn't be more based. makes more sense than the robot I guess, it just happened to be an unawakened evil
Pretentious faggots who are too retarded to appreciate Prime Toriyama's artistic skills have always existed.
And prime DB is easily better than all those other series you mentioned too.
>zoomer detected
>Super is okay
no
It went to shit after Freeza but it being retarded was the least of its problems.
DBZ and after is just screams, asspulls powers, explosions and random new enemies. Boring as fuck pacing in the animes do not help.