I want to hold hands with the alien computer girl

i want to hold hands with the alien computer girl

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i want to protect the alien computer girl

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>when you realize the Data Integration Thought Entity are all fat disgusting neckbeards rping cute human girls.

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>2098x1180 png
>looks absolutely disgusting
Stop streaming user.

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DITE isn't actually human so its not gay

the more i think about this the more sense it makes especially asakura being a stab happy troll.

i want to drink tea with the alien computer girl

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Bring back glasses.

Remove the rest.

i want to tightly wrap my arms around the genki goddess

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>not yuki nagato

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yuki a qt too

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daisuki

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haruhi is a shitty girl.

embarrassing post

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was she autistic?

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i mean you could say that
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same

Why have so few people not heard of the spinoff, let alone seen it?
I'm not going to mince words, Harui's was big for its time but going back and watching it, it's has aged like an egg in the sunlight. The Nagato spinoff is unironically better in almost all aspects especially when the shit hits the fan

>The Nagato spinoff is unironically better in almost all aspects
No. The little accident ark is the only good part of it. Everything else was painfully mediocre.

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I feel the majority of Haruhi was the same way. Painfully mediocre by todays standards
-The first 5 episodes drag on trying to inroduce the concept when it could have been done in 3
-The Nightmare has no tangible later repercussions
-The Baseball game and Murder case was abject filler
-Videogames was servicable, but forgettable
-Heater pickup was a solid episode
-Time Travel was a solid episode, the best in the series
-The Endless Eight was the Endless Eight, no further comment needed
-The Movie Maker/Cultural festival was great up until Haruhi got on stage and ruined everybodys immersion then followed it up by learning absolutely nothing from it inb4, this is called bad writing, not 'a subversion'. The short film airing episode was abject filler. The series doesn't end on any satisfying conclusionary note unless you count the solid movie, hence why fans are as rabid for S3 as Valve fans are for Half Life 3.
Overall most of it was forgettable, a good chunk of it is filler and aboout 5 episodes of a 24 episode total series is what I would consider 'good'. As a whole is riddled with fanservice

[Cont]

On the other hand the Yukino spinoff
-Cuts to the chase from a vaccuum in one episode
-The second episode has tangible repercussions and builds on the layup from the last
-Haruhis introduction is succinct and cuts to the chase
-The fourth episode builds on this and sets up the chocolate
-Everyone grows as a result of the impact and the actions have repercussions (note the main series has just finished setting the premise at this point)
-Homework is expostion and filler
-Trip is mostly filler with the exeption of the straws and the charm which are done well
-Hotel is abject filler
-Stargazing is a filler start followed by a solid end
-The four Disappearence episodes is again, unironically, some of the best anime produced this decade and a crime not to have watched
-Beach is abject filler for the most part until the end which builds on the previous even more
-Fireworks is a solid episode and gives the entire series and season a sombre endnote
On top of this, the overall cast is larger yet still more developed than the stereotypes that make up the main series with notably less, but more concentrated pcokets of fanservice credit where it's due however; they weren't sterotypes at the time, since Haruhi made them industry stereotypes. Yukino still handles the characters with more nuance however making Haruhi believable, delivers on developing Ryoko and Tsuruya at the disgusting cost of a weaker, more fanservicey Koizumi. I'll never forgive what they did to my nigga Koizumi. Of a 16 episode season, only 5 episodes are filler. Quite the flip compared to the 'main' series.

A Ford Model T might be hugely influential rendsetter and ahead of its time for it's industry, but it can't compete with newer models that are rid of its flaws. That's my stance on Haruhi.

Could a computer get pregnant?

>that 8-bit arrangement of Shostakovich's 7ths
Man... KyoAni really are in a class of their own

I hate the Nagato spinoff with a burning passion. It's pure shit. It's unironically awful in every aspect (without exception) especially when the shit hits the fan. There is no show that I hate more that the nagato spinoff. Complete insult to the franchise.

>weren’t stereotypes at the time
Haruhi’s entire thing was Kyon being a self-insert making meta comments about the cast of generic early 00s harem stereotypes.

I never understood the appeal of Yuki. With Haruhi, everyday would be a unique adventure filled with mystery; with Mikuru you could fondle her tits and tease her every day; but with Yuki, she's more like a house plant, just water her once a day so she doesn't die.

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You have a girl understand your feelings and your heart.

You monster
How do you live with yourself?

It baffles me why people like Haruhi, aside from her looks. Her personality is so unbearable.

Get in line

There is only one way to find out

but she's moe!

She'd probably play video games and read books with you. It sounds a lot better than "adventures" and being stuck around a clueless ditz. Plus she's calm, rational, and quiet, which is all of the qualities that make for a relaxing presence.

You'll man up eventually, user.

Imagine being this much of a retarded hipster to think the spin-off is better than the main show.
Nobody gives a shit about the side characters, what made Haruhi good was the two main characters and the strong theme development. Yuki spin-off is a generic romcom where the two main characters are serevely cut down, has no themes whatsoever and isn't even funny.

I need more of this show... pls kyoani

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>The first 5 episodes drag on trying to inroduce the concept when it could have been done in 3
>The Nightmare has no tangible later repercussions
>The Baseball game and Murder case was abject filler
How did such a mainstream show become a pleb filter and a brainlet detector in just a decade?

Nagato's face is so soothing for some reason. It makes me want to watch it all over again just to hear all of her whispered "so"s.

>filler
>filler
>filler
>filler
this term just means "I didn't like it" now

>complaining about filler episodes in a slice of life anime
>>"The series doesn't end on any satisfying conclusionary note unless you count the solid movie"
everyone does count the movie as the end, so this is point only serves a purpose of making your paragraph longer
>>"The Endless Eight was the Endless Eight, no further comment needed"
>newfags still complaining about the endless eight in [current year]
haruhi is a slice of life anime with a serialized storyline sprinkled throughout. the anime is not bad for its genre, it's just not what you want it to be.

>preferring the ugly piece of shit in pic related over the version in the original series
>preferring a romcom anime over a gripping paranormal mystery
>"cuts to the chase" is another way of saying "rushed and/or forgettable"

sorry you didn't make it through the pleb filter, user

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I'm seeing criticisms, but no actual points.
You can't just say X is good and not provide your reasoning-otherwise I could say some horseshit like 'Naruto is one of the best written works of fiction of the known human era' and if enough drones ((You)) mindlessly said their unique wording of 'yay' as oppose to whatever wording of 'nay' I could assert I'm correct in this claim.

>it's a deconsruction of 00's harems
Except it's written, marketed and sold as a comedy, which it fails at because it's fundamentally unfunny as it attempts to tell the same joke for 17+8 episodes. Haruhi is angry and big 'ol Kyons gotta fugure out why she's acting like a bitch this time and IT'S A BIG THING but it's actually a very minor, insignificant thing.... inb4 goalposts, faggot
If it isn't a comedy and is indeed a romance, then it fails there. There's no permanence to anything. Nightmare didn't result in any movement in the relationship bar Haruhi has a ponytail now. Mystery has no repercussions full stop (and also fails as a mystery because if you've heard of the shows premise, you already know exactly whodunnit and why without even knowing a single detail).
If I want a romance, I'll watch A Silent Voice. If I want a comedy, I'll watch XRA.

>revolving around leads
See above, the dynamic doen't evolve from the premise set in the first episode bar Haruhi going a bit tsundere and then said development being drilled in at every point.

>newfag
Haruhi has always been devisive you should know this, what being an older faggot than I, right? old/b/ thiesm wars? oh wait, just change the word newfag from a descriptor into a buzzword, that'll show us how old you are, trying to fit in because by liking dogshit because it's old and everyone else likes it is peak normalfaggotry, following the fucking herd. Process and think about what you're fucking watching, drones.

My best friend went over my house and he was saying that he watched Haruhi so I asked him who was his favorite character, so then he said Yuki. So I said, "You know I have the same hairstyle as her." He said, "Hahaha, you do, that's fucked up. You look like a total girl. Why don't you just cut it off and get a real man's hair cut?" We both laughed and then I said, "You know with a little work, I could actually look like Yuki for you." Then everything went silent and he gave me a look that could kill. But I just kept going. "Yeah, I could dye my hair, cosplay, and even..." Then I took the glasses from his face and wore them. "I could pretend to be Yuki for you, if you wanted me to."

Then I suddenly realized what I just said to him and stopped talking. It was the most awkward moment ever in my life. My friend just stared with no expression on his face. Then after a few seconds, I made a weak laugh and said, "Yeah. That was pretty gay," then took the glasses off my face, gave them back to him, and we watched TV without talking. Minutes later, he said he had to go and it wasn't even late. I said, "Oh okay," with another weak laugh. He said that he had to go somewhere tomorrow but I knew the real reason. Now my friend thinks I'm gay for him. What do?

Pic related. It's me dressed as Yuki.

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fuck off 3d

hot

I thought Yuki was cute in this.
The other characters though, not as much.

i get turned off by her messy-ass hair and spiky eyelashes

>
Tell me exactly how the Baseball game does anything. Nagato is already established as a powerful entity after she fucks up Ryoko, Haruhi is already established as moody, Itsuki is already established to pander for Haruhi so she doesn't temper, nothing else happens. The baseball game in fucking AssClass has more reason to exist.
My points remain for the other examples if you want to attack them.

>SoL
Ah, so it's SoLshit now. That still doesn't excuse filler for being filler. As mentioned above, it's sold, marketed and branded as a comedy. You can't move the goalposts like that on me.
>Anime writing quality is dictated by the quality of finger-broken animators they use on it
If you want to make that point, Transformers has some nice flashy animation you might enjoy, but sadly it's written like shiii-- oh wait, because it look pretty and the big man go boom boom it's actually one of the best written franchises of all time.
Hang yourself.
>Haruhi isn't a SoL, it's a gripping paranormal mystery
At least try to keep your own delusion internally consistent. Is it SoL, or is it a mystery; then prove it more than the fact it's written and sold as a comedy by the fucking authour. Perhaps you simply have brain damage and thing we're talking about Hyouka which you'd still be wrong by calling it gripping
>muh chase
Brevity is the soul of wit, wasting time on 5 episodes of setup in a 12 episode season isn't to be applauded.
>pleb filter
>>you digest what you're watching therefore you pleb. me smart, me listen to hivemind, hivemind back me up

Now isn't this nostalgic. I haven't seen this copypasta since 2007.

But you haven't made any actual point user, just brainlet criticism from someone who clearly can't handle subtlety nor theme development.

>Haruhi isn't a SoL, it's a gripping paranormal mystery
as i said before, it's a slice of life with a serialized story sprinkled throughout. you're allowed to have more than one genre per anime. don't ignore what i said.
>>Anime writing quality is dictated by the quality of finger-broken animators they use on it
strawman, i never said this.

imagine being this much of a fucking hipster faggot that you can't enjoy slice of life as a genre

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>Tell me exactly how the Baseball game does anything.
Haruhi partially gives in her selfish desires and takes Kyon's opinion in consideration to stop the match, ends up somewhat satisfied with the event in itself even if she didn't attrack "paranormal" attention, she didn't find it completely meaningless unlike everything she did in the first book.
See, you just are too sterile inside to see how the characters gradually develop while still being a fun show.

The movie's yuki is so pitiable you can't help but feel bad man.

>you're allowed to have more than one genre per anime
Easy there bro, he can't handle that much.

the movie's yuki in the movie is the second best of the three versions. she was actually cute and subtle enough to make me want to protect her at least somewhat.
in first place is the original human interface for the DITE, and the worst is the lul xD random romcom version in the spinoff show

Alien yuki is just a fool though.
Movie yuki is a real human being and a person you empathised with.

But you haven't made any actual point user, just brainlet criticism from someone who clearly sees shit that never happened

As much as you fucktards want to dismiss the fundamental flaws of Haruhi, you can't change the genre to dimiss criticism. It isn't a gripping Mystery SoL Comedy Romance. It's a Comedy, full stop- in the exact same vein as Lord of the Rings being a written and sold as Fantasy Adventure not a Cyberpunk Romance, Citizen Kane is sold as a Mystery Drama not a Futurisitc Acttion, Bokurano is sold as a Mecha not a Isekai and your mother sold as a cheap whore and not an high class escort
Your incessant whining can't change this fact, you're simply moving the fucking goalposts and whining when I point this out and refuse to follow along to your dumbass tune
>Strawman, I didn't attack the art as if it dictated writing
>>preferring the ugly piece of shit in pic related over the version in the original series
People can look up a thread, fucktard

Imagine being this much of a fucking hipster faggot that you can't see flaws in writing and imply that somebody dislikes the entire SoL genre when they make the initial claim to prefer one SoL over another

Yes, and she takes Kyons advice in the exact episode during the Nightmare.when she wears a ponytail. It achieves nothing, it's obvious fucking fanservice shite

>it's fun
And that's where the entire argument crumbles. Fun does not equate to good, feel free to kill yourself. After all, you can't criticise X, it's just dumb fun, like, learn to take a chill pill man.
Transformers is just fun, turn your brain off. Twilight is cute and fun, tun your brain off. Naruto is fun, turn your brain off. Stop thinking about what your watcing, like you fucking hipster man...god I bet you're fun at parties. You're just sterile man, have some fun
I've heard it all before. You're a 'unique' stupid, braindead normalfag. Don't respond until you come to terms with reality and think for yourself.

>Baseball game
>Nagato is already established as a powerful entity after she fucks up Ryok
>watching chronological order
Get a load of this, pleb.

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I think I watched this three different ways a few years back.
I watched all of E8 too (but only the first time).

>Yes, and she takes Kyons advice in the exact episode during the Nightmare.
It's not the same at all, in the "nightmare" episode Haruhi is at her worst level of detachment, Kyon gives her a light of hope about the real world but she's still not convinced at all, it's her appreciation to him what makes her give in (not to mention the symbolical implication than a mundane kiss with a normal guy was more wonderful than all the supernatural shit they were experiencing at that point).
In the Baseball episode she actually starts to gradually have a sense of belonging and attachment in the real world which is further developed in the other "SoL" episodes, where she gradually ditches escapistic fantasies, weakened her powers and finds freedom/significance in modest things.
>muh fun bad!
Typical tryhard retard, not many shows mix comedy and substance to portray reality more plausibly as Haruhi, but tryhard faggots like you will never get it.

>"you can't change the genre to dimiss criticism"
you can't change the genre to create flaws. of course the show has flaws, but the argument isn't about whether or not it has flaws. it's about whether the Nagato spinoff or the original Haruhi is the better show. and we believe that Haruhi is a better show.
>>It's a Comedy, full stop-
consider the following: take the series and divide every episode up and then attempt to categorize them by genre. if you were unbiased with your judgement, you'd find that many episodes do not fit the genre "comedy" because they're not very funny.
take the movie for instance; there's no way you could sit there with a straight face and tell me that the disappearance of haruhi suzumiya is a comedy. the same applies to the episodes "Mystérique Sign," "Melancholy Part 4," "Melancholy Part 6," the entire endless eight arc, etc.
>inb4 "that just means its a shitty comedy"
instead of it being a shitty comedy, how about you change your stubbornly rigid outlook and admit that it's not JUST a comedy? treating it as if it's trying to just be a comedy will make the show appear worse than it actually is.
>>>preferring the ugly piece of shit in pic related over the version in the original series
this statement makes no point against the show's writing. i was simul-shitting on both your trash opinion and the show's art direction.

>first five episodes
this proves you're a fucking moron who watched the episodes chronologically.

The Baseball Episode is a masterpiece and shows you're an idiot
>comes right in the middle of nagato's exposition breaking up what would otherwise be, as you stated, multiple straight dragging eps
>introduces the character of koizumi before his subsequent exposition dumps and true introduction, and
>demonstrates what would happen if haruhi got angry
>hints at haruhi's god powers/demonstrates

I'll give you the layup and symbolism of the episode were done well and a highlight of the series, however the brasstacks (and initial criticism I had if you look) are that there were no repercussions as a result of the episode.
Haruhi was just as tsun as before, she doesn't treat anybody better or have any notable positive outlook on the world as a result of Nightmare, Kyon doesn't act on his emotions and a few throwaway lines in a filler episode does not excuse the rest of the episode for achieving nothing (ie fanservice filler), nor does the exact same logic excuse the rest of the filler.
>Gradually ditches her escapist fantasies
To be absolutely perfect and have no conflict in stepping outside her bubble. She isn't just the creepy girl who believe in aliens, she's also a master guitarist, skilled planner, vocalist, plays videogames extremely well (despite the haxx0rs on steroids). Action -> no repercussion.

There's a perfect quote from the show whch I'd post my harvested screenshot if it weren't for the fact Yea Forums being a nigger and IP range blocking' due to abue'; 'Theres something wrong with people who seek reality in fiction'. Making up headcanon and analysing every interpretation could be done by anybody to portray any narrative and to be quite honest the Kyon=The God is a more succint and more interesting piece of theorycrafting

>you just can't enjoy it
Ignoring the normalfag powerworrd of tryhard, because I already know I'm taling to one, believe it or not I'm not saying I couldn't see it. I'm saying it wasn't done well. If I turned my brain off, sure I could have fun and laugh at the flashing pictures, but that doesn't change that it isn't a heavily symbolic, amazing SoL that should be logged in the halls f valhalla for writing quality

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nagato is cuter :)

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cringe

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>Imagine having this shit taste

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This.

>Genre
And the crux of your argument is seeminly that it's flaws can be written off because genre, whereas I have pointed out exactly hat genre it is, shown why I deem it flawed from both the genre is it and the genre you think it is, while still assertaining my original points. My original points still remain, even if the argument has become tangential; it is simply that nobody has attacked my points of why the Nagato spinoff is better outside on 'u smelly u rong u dum' of which I have responded to them all despite the low quality.
>It's not a comedy
Exactly, it fails at what it sets out to achieve, even if it does find success in other things it does. I could write the an excellent piece of prose, but if I hand it in as a Science paper, it'd be thrown out as dogshit. Likewise this doesn't excuse the flaws that the prose has just because it doesn't fall into the category set out. It fails as a comedy, it fails less as a drama and SoLshit isn't an excuse for poor writing.
>Outlook
And I have described why it is a shitty SoL, not a mystery and a shitty romance
>simul-shitting
We're reaching levels of shitting that shoudln't be crossed user. You walk a fine line, just know that.
Regardless, it still isn't a tangible criticism of the show outside of 'bad art direction' (which you still haven't quantified in the slightest outside of 'me no likey') and haven't commented on the rest of the shows writing at all, so how else am I supposed to take it?

>Show is broadcast along 4 different structures
>3 of which are chronological
>>Therefore you're an idiot for not watcing them in the broken order
Perhaps (hear me out) the chronological order is what the creators deemed the correct order, hence why it's been that way in every single broadcast and marketing material bar the initial.

All your first paragraph just proves that you don't really get what the show is about, Haruhi changes after the dream episode, the "filler" episodes actually have more character progress for her than the Melancholy arc where she's a lot more detatched and socially inept. Wether she's "tsun" or not was never the conflict of the series, that's a pretty retarded way to summarize it.
As for her being "perfect" I disagree, wether you are good at something or not doesn't matter when you see absolutely no point nor joy in doing it, that's the whole point of Haruhi's character: she had potential for many things yet she didn't saw value in any.
And finally I'm not the person who tend to overthink stuff at all (I don't care about the Kyon = God thing for example), my interpretations of the show are almost literal for the most part, you just can't interpret what is thrown in your face because the show has more subtlety than other high-school shows.

>>It's not a comedy.
i said it's not JUST a comedy (i even made it all caps for you so you wouldn't make this mistake). there are many episodes that are funny that i would qualify as comedic, and there are many that i would not, because the writer's goal isn't always to write a comedy. if you believe it set out to be a comedy, then you'd be disappointed.
>Exactly, it fails at what it sets out to achieve
that sounds an awful lot like something i already addressed:
>>inb4 "that just means its a shitty comedy"
you say it "set out" to be a comedy, and that's only partially true. it set out to be a slice of life with themes of mystery, the paranormal, and comedy. if you honestly think that the show was designed to make you laugh at every turn then you're beyond help.
>Imagine being this much of a fucking hipster faggot that you can't see flaws in writing and imply that somebody dislikes the entire SoL genre when they make the initial claim to prefer one SoL over another
i never made that implication; you did. by calling the genre "SoLshit," i think that it was reasonable to assume you disliked slice of life as a whole. if my assumption isn't true then i will retract my statement.

All your first paragraph just proves that you don't really get what the show is about, Haruhi changes after the dream episode, the "filler" episodes actually have more character progress for her than the Melancholy arc where she's a lot more detatched and socially inept. Whether she's "tsun" or not was never the conflict of the series, that's a pretty retarded way to summarize it, besides she's not even tsun because she has an explicit attraction to Kyon from the fucking first episode, she doesn't even hide it.
As for her being "perfect" I disagree, whether you are good at something or not doesn't matter when you see absolutely no point nor joy in doing it, that's the whole point of Haruhi's character: she had potential for many things yet she didn't saw value in any.
As for Kyon's development the movie is pretty brainlet-proof and should make everything clear for you if you didn't get it in the show already.
Finally I'm not the kind person who tends to overthink stuff (I don't care about the Kyon = God thing for example), my interpretations of the show are almost literal for the most part, you just can't interpret what is thrown in your face because the show has more subtlety and subtext than other high-school shows.

One of you is getting trolled fucking HARD, I can't tell who though

>only pretending to be retarded!

I choo choo choose Haruhi

If you were looking at IP count that was my first post ITT. I just wanted to show the shitposter/shitposters that I appreciate his/their skill and dedication

I wish I could watch Haruhi again for the first time

Haruhi becomes a lot better when you realise Kyon was the one with powers all along