Anime HomeVideo Industry Falls 24% in 2018

streaming doesn't make enough money

That might explain why there was a drop to 36 airing standard-length shows this season, and an even greater drop to only 30 shows next season. There seems to be a big focus on popular manga next season (Sewayaki Kitsune, Hitoribochi on Marumaru, Kono Oto, etc.), maybe in order to try to capitalise off existing fanbases instead of riskier originals.

Does this mean we can finally ban the stalker generals?

DVD/Blu-Rays's will become obsolete.

The bad decisions the producers made are finally biting back. It was a terrible idea to make 20 extra horribly low effort anime in each recent season that had literally no target audience. That hurt the interest, sales and productions of all the shows that had a potential audience. Hopefully this leads to higher quality adaptations of popular source materials.

It'd be nice if it started dropping the silly prices for them.
At the moment you can buy multiple figures and several other merchandise for the same price as 1-cour series BDs. I know which one would feel more valuable if you've already watched the series live and can easily download it.

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>Implying DVD was a thing back is Totoro's day
>Implying 300 million dollars of home video sales means shit compared to merchandise revenue and box office numbers
user, please don't call people newfags when they are actually quite well informed, and probably more than you are.

They will never do that. Dropping the price would decrease the chances of making back the entire sum or a large chunk of the production costs. The system is broken to the core.

I guess shilling light novels was not a very profitable move, or at least not as profitable for the studios as trying to sell BDs. The production committees were probably not particularly generous.

So just change Yea Forums to Anime and Manga discussions to Manga Adaptations and Manga discussions?

There was a flood of low effort light novel anime because they are cheap shitty source materials. Who cares if something is good or not as long as it makes money?

A lot of studios are making movies instead. They are safer ways to make money.

No. The same applies to original anime. Hopefully this leads to higher quality creative originals.

>Implying laser disc or vhs wasn't a thing
Shiggy diggy go get

Certinly, they don't really mean that much anymore, if they ever did. A lot of shows have always been advertisements for the manga/LN, and with streaming contracts being an increasingly large portion of the overall market, it's hard to see how sales of an obsolete media could be especially relevant.

>DVD market is dead, and now for the weather
There are occasionally shows where I might buy the BDs, but I don't even really *want* a physical media that's less convenient to use than a file on my external hard drive, takes up space, and requires extra hardware.

There's just got to be a point where the high price puts off so many people that going for a slightly cheaper price might make it stand out enough to buy and end up earning more.
For example Virtual-san is >2k right now and feels appropriately priced for a show that should be quite cheap to make. While it is a 1/3 of the price of most so needs to sell a lot more to earn the same it probably will make a profit and probably lead to more similar series.
There are currently so many low budget shows trying to sell for the same as high budget shows and it's no surprise some of them are struggling to even get 100 sales.

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I noticed even fujo shows are struggling to sell now. Didn't help to have 5 really cheap ones through every season in the last 3 years.

I've long thought it disturbing that the industry relies on such a small customer base.

Yeah but that's what made anime be anime.

>BDs and DVDs earn less than pachinko.

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>Lasers discs and VHS are DVD
Amazing backpedaling.

The people who make anime make it.

Those people make it for the hardcore otaku, they're the audience and the ones that have decided the flow of the industry for decades.

I can see the Pachinko, but where are the Disc sales in that moon graph.

No faggot. In fact we're at the lowest historical piracy rate for anime as in the last decade (well maybe something more, goddamnit it's 2019 I'm fucking old) watching anine ib the west was 100% from pirated sources. With subscription based services existing now that actuall have good seasobal coverage people actually started paying to watch anime. That's what killed BD/DVD, they are relics from an old era.

Its pretty much like that outside of anime and in other countries as well. Physical disc sales are down across the board because we live in a digital age where its much faster and cheaper to download and stream things rather th han owning a physical copy of it. That's why there has been a rise in anime paid streaming services, online readers, and the like. The market for anime is changing, not dying. The companies crying about loss of disc sales are the dinosaurs too slow or incompetent to adapt to the new marketplace.

>1) TV: domestic TV animation revenues
2) Movie: domestic theatrical animation box office revenues
3) Video: domestic videogram animation revenues (DVD, etc.
media)
4) Internet Distribution: domestic online animation revenues
5) Merchandising: domestic animation‐related merchandise
revenues
6) Music: domestic animation‐related music revenues
7) Overseas: overseas Japanese animation revenues (movie,
TV, videogram, MD, etc.)
8) Pachinko and Pachinko‐slot machine: estimated shipment
value of animation character‐themed Pachinko and Pachinkoslot
machine machines.
9) Live Entertainment: animation‐related live‐performance,
event, exhibition, and cafe revenues (Note 4)

Better raise the prices to $700 for 12 episodes hen :^)

It's insane how much the China market has grown.

You can't be so retard to think not only that Ghibli is like the midnight anime but also thinking that movies and shows have the same distribution model, right?

It actually sold more than that.

ITT retards doomposting and thinking this means anything.

This could perhaps explain why figure prices have been going through the roof for the last ~2 years.

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things change with time, now they'll have to get up to speed with digital streaming/downloads and with selling merch

I still don't understand how streaming services make money. I get that they mine user data and spam ads at you, but that shit can't be worth that much money can it?

Streaming is a massive meme and will crash harder than the home video industry.

there are these things called subscription fees that most of them have

next time they'll think before making 'My stepsister is a convenience store worker in another world RE season 3'

I guess but even Netflix only started making a profit very recently (like last year) and only because its userbase is fucking massive. I'm sure CR loses a ton of money every year.

>You can't be so retard to think not only that Ghibli is like the midnight anime
I just believe late night anime aren't more profitable than mainstream morning ones and represent a much smaller part of the industry. It's not just Ghibli. Precure, One Piece, Dragon Ball, Doraemon, Conan, Lupin and the likes earn billions of yens in the box office on the first week end and even more in yearly merchandise sales.
Even among late night anime, there are mainstream manga adaptations like Snk or Tokyo Ghoul where the main revenue is far from being the anime's homevideo sales.

NEETs parents finally cut them off huh? Guess now the industry will stop having to pander to degenerates who'll pony up $450 for a single season of anime.

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then move on boomerfag we don't use DVR anymore

They moved to mobage shit

Good, anime needs to stop putting out low quality trash and expecting it to sell because it copied something that sold well.

Wait a minute, how does TV animation revenues work? Does it have to do with the ads?

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>Wait a minute, how does TV animation revenues work?
it doesn't work

>It's doesn't work
>It's the highest earning category on that graph
???

Streaming services make money by having a library that you can access from anywhere, a huge selection (extremely important), and most importantly, a good enough recommendation system that gives you the kind of show that you want to watch.

The highest earning category is selling licenses to Asia and the West.

Probably, plus subscription fees from premium anime channels.
>the highest earning category on that graph
That would be China.

I see. That makes sense.

Your guess is as good as mine.
Adding to this, it doesn't help that some companies release their physical sets in multiple expensive "collections". So to own a series on blu ray would rack up the costs.

>insightful comment
I sleep
>all dat merch
damn nigga

Yes, who fucking cares about the shitty encodes from streaming sites.

Japan needs to stop producing crap anime. Good anime sells. Bad anime don’t. It’s the same for regular movies in Hollywood. Right now they just throwing shit at the wall and hoping some of it will stick.

It's never going to be that simple, there's a whole host of reasons something might not sell well despite how good it may be

More Japanese media companies charge a fuckload of tens for vol. 100$ per 2-3 eps disks. Which is compounded by the rising use of torrent clients with Japanese ip flags. Of course if you charge alot people won't shill for the non wanted series.

I can't believe Yea Forums is still too retarded to understand the anime industry.

Basically, more mobage adaptations, isekai and idolshit?

user why do you have standards for Yea Forums to begin with?

I'm surprised DVD/bluray has lasted as long as it has in Japan. I remember looking at Japanese DVD releases a decade or so ago and seeing DVDs with 3 episodes going for $50, which is ridiculous. And I imagine it hasn't gotten any cheaper.

>WAAAAAAAAAAAH WHAT I DON'T LIKE IS CRAP, MAKE WHAT I LIKE
It's Yea Forumsermin like usual.

Judging by next season's lineup, their new approach is to decrease the total number of shows, and adapt lots of popular manga and hope that the existing fanbase will guarantee good sales. We'll see if they manage to pull it off.

the great thing about BDs/ DVDs is that they are rarely being centralized. With the rise of streaming services, these websites can easily manipulate what's allowed in their platform and whatnot. Stop giving these goddamn websites the power to monopolize an industry. Gas all streamfags

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Are you doubleplusstupid? There's a shitton of legal and illegal streaming services that allows you to watch all kinds of shows everywhere.

Japs get all the anime for free on TV retard, do you think disk sales were important in the 60-70's?

>streaming services

you fucking faggot and your telling me that I'm stupid? Off yourself

You need to learn to be coherent. Are you trying to say that adapting a light novel is easier than adapting a manga? Wouldn't it be easier with the manga because you have images to work with? Are they cheaper to license? A source would be nice.

They flood the market with shitty adaptations for quick cashgrabs, what did you expect?

Time to merge Yea Forums with /vg/ now I guess. There are more and more mobage anime now anyway, no need for a forced divide at this point.

I don't think you understand what a monopoly is.

Prepare yourself for
>corporation isekai
>battle harem office
>magical salaryman

maybe 8f BD weren't so expensive I would buy but alad I will stick with my manga and LN if I really like the series.

It's a question of which medium the publisher makes more money selling, not which the studio would prefer to work with.

The money are just shifting to streaming. Nothing changed.

As a westerner, you really shouldn't buy overpriced dumb BDs from rich nip producers handling the videogram distribution in Japan. You don't need to feel any pity for them. They're in many cases the electronic rights holder earning the money through streaming licenses anyway.

Yeah, but the barrier to entry is cheaper with streaming. Only the most obsessive fans were buying blurays priced that high. Now they'll be at the whims of a wider audience.

I personally am looking forward to the death of
>loli
>magical high school harem
>videogame isekai
>monster girl
as the primary focus of anime over plot and quality.

Digital sales are more important. Physical discs are dying, did you not know this???

It is simple. That's the point. Those producers over think and over manage and shit gets made. Just looks at how much just the art (animation) itself has dropped over the years.
This is the obvious result of years of overdoing it. I hope this will reverse the trend.

well, turns out you can't rely on it anymore, time to adapt, faggot

>implying I don't buy my BD anime from local pirate sellers
they even make a metal case if you want

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>streaming will kill piracy
>actually kills physical media instead

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Not all debt is bad, retard.

I remember to pirated some shonen episodes, put them in dvds and sells on conventions hehehe

Yep, debt is in fact good. If you're not in debt you're doing something wrong.

Imagine a new age of anime, with only 10 shows per season but with 100% soul.
Instead of the current 50 souless glorified ads.

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Crunchyroll it's supercheap compared to Netflix.

>Imagine anime but they pander to me instead of other losers

People who only watch what panders to them assume everyone else does the same.

>There's just got to be a point where the high price puts off so many people that going for a slightly cheaper price might make it stand out enough to buy and end up earning more
That has already happened a few times, companies just blamed the show creators rather than whoever priced up the BD/DVDs

Nichijou was the last big one that came to mind that was something silly like $1000 for 24 episodes

Anime producers are truly retarded.

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>all these retards that don't even realize that anime is simply a glorified ads for the source material

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Based nip producers jewing out the dumb nip otaku. That was truly capitalism at its finest.
The god of capitalism, Adam Smith, is proud of the nip jews. Truly, the otaku nip samurai feared and lost against the nip jews, just like nature always intended.

imagine paying 25 dollars for 3 episodes

I'm surprised how some still haven't realized that much.

It depends on the anime. Pop Team Epic was entirely funded by King Records. Batman Ninja it's an original story and so on.

Yet people will continue to go on about "muh BD/DVD sales" and use that as the sole metric to make big claims about a show's financial success or the lack thereof

Yeah lowering prices for a shrinking market will definitely make money.

Is anime saved?

Streaming is the future. Especially with 5G right around the corner.

More like 80.

GOOD. Less shows make more sense form a pure business standpoint. Over saturation is a huge problem.

>There's just got to be a point where the high price puts off so many people that going for a slightly cheaper price might make it stand out enough to buy and end up earning more.
Yeah the point where they're at.

I don't think you have a sense of the scale of the broader market in the first place. There is less than 130 million Japanese speakers in the entire world while the North American English market alone is 350 million, basically 3x the size. Dragon Quest is the absolute most mainstream, cultural bedrock tier video game in the country and sells like 2 million, normally 200,000 first week would be considered VERY successful and 25-30,000 will chart top much of the year. Any TV anime selling over 50,000 home video disks for something people have already watched is pretty miraculous.

Keep this in mind when someone complains about anime CGI being really crappy compared to video games or whatever, it might be on TV but the audience is like public access size.

Video games and the internet killed morning anime. It is not lucrative enough to shill things to children to fund a large number of anime in that time slot anymore, that's why they started moving to late night in the first place.

>these websites can easily manipulate what's allowed in their platform and whatnot.
>Stop giving these goddamn websites the power to monopolize an industry.
Do you even understand why region protection exists? Fucking retards.

That's why TV original anime are what's so sorely needed.

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Monetizing from disc sales is obsoleted in other part of the world
Why jap still cant move on?

>Le physical media is le dead meme

Yeah, good luck when the licenses get pulled off and you could not watch the shows you actually wanted anymore, good luck dealing with algorithms telling you what you like and being bombarded with mainstream normie modern garbage and retro anime no older than the early 2000s and your dragonballs, good luck with preservation....

good fucking luck.

Remember how Love Live was an ad for Dengeki G's magazine?

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So did Blockbuster. This is the point where the industry either has to evolve or die.

It does just not for late night shows.

Anime BD/DVD sales matter far less than they used to. Nowadays merchandising, event tickets, streaming, etc. share as much importance to BD sales. However, BD sales often also tie into event ticket sales since those are usually sold as bonuses or the limited edition box set comes with figures or other paraphernalia.

Rather than focusing on BD/DVD sales, we should also take further interest in the merchandise people buy to gauge consumer interest in the series, and I think more companies should practice what was done with Kemono Friends, where the BD is an extra to accompanying books or even music albums.

At the same time, number of anime projects only grows.

> I'm sure CR loses a ton of money every year.
Loses on what? Do you lose a lot of money when you torrent your animu? Traffic is cheap, and CDN companies handle it for convenient price if you are just another service and not a giant. Wages and royalties are probably the top things to consider when planning.

You guys don't get it. And if you don't get it, you say it's "retarded".

> Good anime sells.
Learn about at least another five titles before posting on Yea Forums.

> Which is compounded by the rising use of torrent clients with Japanese ip flags.
Can't see much difference from, say, 2009. Japanese peers have always downloaded anime, they just don't upload because that's illegal.

More studios should become more proactive and independent by abandoning the idea of production by committee and instead gear themselves more toward studios taking more ownership and control over the series they work on. There needs to be better alternatives in which anime are created as the current system has too few benefits for the actual studios to make the whole industry sustainable in the long-run.

You're forgetting how economies of scale and scope work.

>wider audience.

>as the primary focus of anime over plot and quality.

have you seen normalfag shows in japan or in the west for that matter they are even dumber than anything in anime you will never get your shitty 90's anime back give it up

What people really don't realize is that anime isn't an advertisement for the source material as much as it is an advertisement for the cultural mind virus lurking behind everything "otaku" that leaves you a broken husk desperate to fill the void by pouring all your money into overpriced anime-styled junk just because the temporary rush you get from owning and consuming it is the only thing that makes you feel like there's any value in existing anymore.

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I highly, highly doubt CR makes a profit. Streaming a lot of video takes lots of bandwidth and costs quite a bit of money. Plus they have to pay tens of thousands of dollars to get a license.

I think someone might be projecting a bit.

>retard thinks parroting dumb meme makes him smart and knowledgeable

Not really surprising, while the pick up was slow I'm guessing even otaku realise that if they start watching shit online they can start funding season 2 and not even go to sofmap or wait for amazon delivery's.

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I haven't spent a cent on anything anime myself.

user are you ok?

>archive.is instead of the site
cheeky cunt

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>they just don't upload
Yeah, right.

B-but I posted a smug animu waifu pic. You're supposed to be impressed by that. Why didn't my attempt at passing off as being smart fail?

>Good anime sells. Bad anime don’t
The sales of felcher gundam say otherwise.

Price of Smiles is that yet it's not selling well. People don't want new stuff that often, sad to say.

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Depends on the anime. Sure shit like pastel memories and go-toubun this season are adverts for the source material.

But then you get shit like the mirai project and original products from the studios that basically want to profit from their own shit rather than a third party.

Thats the shit I wait for year after year.

Physical media is overrated. Same thing happened with videogames.

That's because it sucks

It's the best anime airing right now.

Domesitc na Kanojo ditched BDs/DVDs and are using something called PlayPic. A new era is creeping upon us.

More like Chinese streaming bux are so important that Japs are reluctant to run afoul of the censors

Good
The market solely focusing on BD sales killed all forms of originality
Only newfags would be mad about this

No not even close.

Disney should just buy anime.
I'd loved to see our American companies just buy anime and make them even better!

Are tourism advert anime the best kind of advertisement?

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Reminder that only China can save anime now

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>BDs cost to much thats why they sell poorly

Not really. Plenty of DVDs/BDs are priced at 2000-3000 yen and sell the same, if not worse. Video games cost 8000-10000 yen in Japan and nobody bitches about game sales.

Bang Dream doesn't even have discs on sale and makes more money than everything else on the list.

Meaning more original anime, more sequels and remakes.

no

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>Good anime sells. Bad anime don’t
Delusional as fuck. The fact alone that poorly produce harem shit like 5toubun is one of the best selling anime this season, while Mob is doing poorly proves you wrong.

>Good anime sells. Bad anime don’t

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Because STOP FUCKING CREATE ANIME ABOUT SCHOOL GIRLS IDOLS OR FUCKING STUPID GAREMS

Mob Psyco is a meme anime

>Mob psycho
>good
go back to plebbit

Literally the best anime airing this season, eat shit moefags

The past few episodes of Mob have been embarrassingly bad.

>>The market solely focusing on BD sales killed all forms of originality
I don't see how focusing on other forms of revenue would increase originality. Nothing is going to change the fact that every company will want to make profit on their product and often companies like to chase popular trends.
The only way I can see around that is more cheap anime that makes the income requirements lower to earn a profit, so they can take more risks with the content.

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>thinks the market ever solely focused on BDs
>calls others newfags

Yeah cause chink pandering anime is so much better.

The only redeemable thing from mob is the animation.

>The market solely focusing on BD sales killed all forms of originality
Jesus christ, I guess that if this board can't even figure how King Crimson works, much less will figure out how the industry does.

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You think people in Japan buy discs only to watch the content.
They primarily do it to support the industry, though.
For a Japanese person there is no need to buy discs of TV anime in the first place, since they all record the free TV broadcast.
Sure, there are exceptions like pay-TV anime (and maybe the recent Neflix garbage), but those are exceedingly rare.

The reason disc sales are dropping is probably that they are unhappy with the state of the industry.
Especially the rise of the overseas market (rather China than the West) might be making them wary of buying content made for gaijin (i.e. not them), and I can completely understand that.

How many of those we actually get per season in comparison to everything else? Isn't there only like 1 idol anime airing this very season? Stop crying.

Well im not crying, i'm not watching anime anymore(almost 2 years) and i know anime now more shitty than it was.But i'm fucking hate school anime its worst fucking genre and most popular among braindead fuckers.Every season 99% anime its FUCKING SCHOOL ANIME FUCKING SCHOOOOOOOOOOOL

Manga better anime.

I am just happy that mobshit flopped like the shit it is. Nothing better than frustrated Yea Forumsermins.

>i'm not watching anime anymore(almost 2 years)
The absolute state of neo Yea Forums. No wonder nobody in japan cares about western subhumans anymore and pander to chinks.

No, the best is ueno san

Based nip producers having made a fortune out of the dumb nip otaku who thought that they had to "support" the industry.

Absolute cringe seeing them try to defend that cliffhanger.

>the great thing about BDs/ DVDs is that they are rarely being centralized
>BDs are literally centralized by Sony
>multiple streaming sites available, often with overlapping shows

Discfags are the only people dumber than streamfags. You're not even afforded the same freedoms as pirates with the files you paid for.

It was obvious it was gonna flop only normalfags likes that shit.

i'd consider buying more anime if they weren't stupidly expensive

can we finally stop with the Stalker threads then

>dumb nip otaku who thought that they had to "support" the industry
How was that "dumb"?
Worked for decades, and generated a fuckton of shows that they love.
Seems pretty smart. Even in hindsight.
>Based nip producers
Of the past? Sure.

They're the only consistent sellers though. Come back when they're not.

You are pretty dumb to consider buying anime in the first place, no matter where the disc is being printed and who distributes it.

This isn't entirely true, a stronger factor was the presence of animation touchups and bonus features on those discs and that hasn't changed. The average nip isn't so virtuous as to pay 8000+ yen a volume as a goodwill gesture.

nah i like owning my media

It's over.

>Overall, the home video market was down 5.1%
>Anime HomeVideo Industry Falls 24%
Seems to me the problem was shit anime that no one wanted to buy.

They should, though. Just so that the west can keep laughing at those morons.

This. More sequels and remakes are very popular.

>only western retards likes that shit.
Fixed. That's why I am happy that chinks are now more relevance than western retards. Hope some chink company put netflix out of business with all their normalfag western pandering trash next.

>presence of animation touchups

In that case Imoimo should have boosted sales to magnitudes never seen before.

How is commie state pandering better than western normalfag pandering?

everybody laughing at modern west nowadays tho. Looking at how you retards self destructing is way too funny.

Guess we need Cygames to start giving out more codes.

We got maid-san s2 thanks to chinks. What we got thanks to western retards? Bunch of edgy trash from netflix? Tranny cartoon from CR? Fuck them the west.

Shut up, Venezuela.

Shut up, drumpf is doomed come 2020.

Based.

Yang Gang up in this bitch

Too bad it doesn't translate in doujins.

For 90% of anime BD releases there are no bonus features except for a booklet or two and NCOP/NCED on disk. The animation changes are very minimal, and the series with lots of them don't show any noticeable increase in sales compared to those without.
I'd rather buy some other merch for the shows I like than non-existing Bluray extras.

I don't like that faggot either, but he was the better choice in 2016, and if the Dems fuck up their nomination process again, he will again be the better choice in 2020.

I'm up for a Re:Creators reboot with ACTUAL WRITING AND DIRECTION.

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He's right. Anime can only exist and make sense in capitalism.

only basic income can save anime now, should be paid directly to the animators based on view count

Because they dont release and any MANly anime like Jojo and hokuto no ken.Just look at this shit that airing right now, its fucking 99% girly anime with only girly characters for faggs and fattys.
God i fucking hate modern anime

They did a HnK series recently, that shitty looking CGI one. And there's a Jojo anime airing right now.

Yang 2020 nigga, I want my monthly 1000$

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Chinese animation ruin everything.Jojo animation fucking disgusting and i cant watch it after 1 episode tho i luv manga.
1-2 MANly anime in year? Its not enough

You obviously haven't seen any chinese produced "anime"

the one about e-sports is pretty good

After shit like Megalo Box, Baki and that Sumo one flopping last year I doubt anyone will want to.

HAHAHAHAHA, no
most of the time you hear "piracy is killing X" it's a story told to stupid investors
>our numbers are down, but demand is totally on the rise, there is nothing wrong with what we are doing, the only explanation for the discrepancy between our profit projections and reality is... those pesky pirates over there!

Kill yourself.

retail sales in america were shitty in december. its kind of going around. not really anything they can do about it but not make bad animu

so no more my asspull academy and other drek

Sony owns the patent for BD technology, yes. So any company that presses a BD has to pay royalties or whatever. That's mostly their problem and not the consumers problem though. The actual shitty thing about a BD is that there's DRM on it, but fortunately it can be cracked pretty easily. Since a BD can be ripped and encryption is broken, I'd say it gives you a much higher degree of freedom than your average stream site (especially the ones that don't offer free streams like netflix). A pirated file is still the highest level of freedom, yes. Of course, a BD is still the highest quality of source so they serve a purpose.

>burger retail
irrelevant

It's really funny when you hop on over to nyaa and the pirates are only in the thousands, vast majority of which would never have paid in the first place. Most people watch stuff on their phone and don't bother with torrents.

If you dont know about Ashina no joe, why you watched Megalo Box?
I know people like school anime and other shit with high school girls and i don't understand why.

All about gachashit these days.

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Ashita no joe*

>Megalo Box
>literally made in 480p and then upscaled because the director is a fucking moron and thought that made it look "old"
It deserved to flop for that alone.

You know that bandwidth prices for providers are quite different from consumer rates, don't you?

There have been countless pirate video hosting sites, some of them quite popular, and they have all been made on a dime to profit from ads. Traffic is not the main source of expense for most for-profit sites, unless you are a giant like Youtube or Netflix (in that case, you start hunting for exclusive deals, offering free CDN endpoints to ISPs, lobbying for/against net neutrality, and waging peering wars).

>i don't understand why
Understanding other people's preferences isn't something you should expect to do.
Even if people tried to explain what makes SoL good it shouldn't really change your view on it. Likewise people can go on about hype and such but it doesn't change that I find action series boring.
You just have to accept the loss that most of the current era isn't for you in the same way mechafags had to mostly give up a long time ago.

well maybe more people would buy it when they wouldn't push out 3-4 episodes for about 40-50 bucks

Pirate sites aren't spending millions of dollars every year on licenses either.

The asking price for anime DVDs and BlueRays are too high, and the run times are too low. Japan is to dumb to understand that nobody wants to pay $40 for 3-4 episodes, or a 20 minute OVA.

So what to do if i wanna enjoy garems, fucking stupid school romances and shit like dat anime but i cant?Just wait for my era anime?

Not everyone has or had a DVR anyways, but they buy it for the sake of owning something, suppert da industree is a later secondary consideration as disks lose desirability as media.

From the start anime DVDs were priced with the expectation of a rental market but they became a premium collector product.

Everyone who makes one of these worthless posts should unironically be banned from Yea Forums for life

nice argument retard

Why should I pay $40 for 3 or 4 episodes when I can get the whole series on Netflix, Hulu, or Crunchyroll for cheaper?

>The reason disc sales are dropping is probably that they are unhappy with the state of the industry.
underrated answer.

>The actual shitty thing about a BD is that there's DRM on it, but fortunately it can be cracked pretty easily. Since a BD can be ripped and encryption is broken, I'd say it gives you a much higher degree of freedom than your average stream site
The encryption is only broken on a handful of players which few people own.

I'm not arguing I'm telling you to fuck off.

The industry could save itself if it stopped doing what it's been doing for decades and instead pandered to my tastes specifically. Also they should only charge $20 for a Blu ray because that's what I would pay and that makes it the most profitable option.

Overseas Market is rising because more people in the West and China grew up on Anime and now old enough to buy the product. DBZ Broly made more money because of it's popularity in Latin America and US.

If Nips want to be at the center of the industry, then they need to cut work hours, increase pay, and encourage people to breed. The days of otaku bankrolling the industry are over.

I'm not sure what playback devices have to do with ripping a BD. These are two different things. Region locking for BDs also sucks ass, but there are plenty of super cheap region free players so it's not a real issue. Ripping a BD can be done pretty easily with software (makemkv is probably the most reliable way).

>encourage people to breed
Nah, they should just increase immigration.

Fuck off bernstein

>increase pay, and encourage people to breed
Kind of contradictory there. Larger population means more demand for jobs, allowing employers to get away with lower wages.

The only way for them to get higher wages is to band together and obtain political power so they can make a livable minimum wage. It's time for the workers of Japan to join up and take control.

The industry simply can't thrive on hard work, guts, determination, and production committees alone. It's killing anime as a whole.

>encourage people to breed
Abe has been trying that for a few years now.
I have yet to hear about a birth wonder in Japan.

Well, on the upside, at least they don't get replaced by immigrants like most of Europe.
If you deduct (naturalized) foreigners, the birth rates in Europe are about as bad as in Japan.

Maybe industrialized nations are doomed to perish.
Maybe that's why we haven't seen any alien species roam through our end of the Universe.

Europe is doing fine. The UK, which is absolutely bungling Brexit, is the one hurting. Immigrants do many of the jobs regular people don't want to do and stimulate the economy. If Japan wishes to survive the next few decades, it needs immigration.

>If Japan wishes to survive the next few decades, it needs immigration.

Don't forget about Gay Marriage too?

>Immigrants do many of the jobs regular people don't want to do
You mean they do those jobs for slave wages that regular people don't want to do.

Piracy is highly illegal in Japan, so I doubt it. BD/DVD is simply dying as a format, streaming and DVR recording is the future.

Have you never looked at the flags in the peer list for anime torrents? They have their own file-sharing networks as well.

Brick n' mortar prices, sjw laced bullshit dubs to name too

LASESDISC ARMY WHERE YOU AT?

Releasing a sub only bd for years only to have a dub bd, 24 ep. segmented releases can fuck off too

And defective discs

You seem to have gotten lost on the way to ANN or r/anime

Interesting, I've never thought of that before.

They literally can't take away my bluray. They would physically have to come and take it away from me in order for me to not have it.

>but muh AACS keys

When bluray officially dies, all of them will be decrypted by then. Hell, people already have decrypted UHD

The same is true of pirated files.
In fact, in the case of files they would have to do far more than physically take them away since P2P networks like bittorrent keep them in circulation.

This is what torrenting is for,

this

I don't think the format of which the anime is distributed is indicative of how original the anime is.

>The average nip isn't so virtuous as to pay 8000+ yen a volume as a goodwill gesture.
Perhaps this isn't a representation of the majority, but those nips sure don't have any issues spending 8k yen several fold on ONE volume, all for a stupid event ticket or some other nonsense.

>Piracy is illegal
>Let me just VPN my shit
>Problem solved
Honestly though. The prices are really high. Most of the time, I just support the show through music CDs. But I rarely buy the Blu-rays not unless there’s a really good bonus.

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>Piracy is illegal
>Let me just VPN my shit
>Problem solved
Honestly though. The prices are really high. Most of the time, I just support the show through music CDs. But I rarely buy the Blu-rays not unless there’s a really good bonus.

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I hevn’t actually sen much of those lately.

Now it’s all high fantasy.

None of them are high fantasy. They're caricatures of caricatures of high fantasy.

his lifestyle is comfy af

Funny enough, I’ve bought the most anime I ever have in late 2017-2018. Mostly Ghibli shit but also got a Japanese Big O Blu-ray set, all of geass, all of sailor moon crystal. Mostly because they’ve started not charging retarded prices for everything. It’s a shame funimation stands alone now in anime distribution in the west

>all these people who don't realize that while BD/DVD is in decline, the anime industry is actually growing as a whole thanks to other sources of profit
With that said, physical media still has their uses, particularly for archiving if nothing else.

Would love to see what happens when this person loses interest in her

Oh no how dare they make something that isnt moe show #5245

I still import BDs to support anime I like.

>corporation isekai
CEO shark gets transported to another world, sees the entire thing as ripe for making lottsamoney and exploitation, goes full corporate raider on the world to make fat dosh. Would be way better than Shield Hero and other standard iseshit.

>It's time for the workers of Japan to join up and take control.
As much as I'm for that it's literally never going to happen. Their entire culture from day one has indoctrinated them to absolutely hate that. Their ideal citizen is the most ordinary unassuming drone indistinguishable from the next one who doesn't break from what's considered the norm.

disk packaging is now a special thing like in the vein of toy merchandising of an anime series now. The new norm is streaming, like people said.

People who watch everything, and find some good in everything they watch can clearly see people who call shows they don't like "soulless" as they are: people who only watch shows that pander to themselves, and your deflection won't change that.

Buying is voting.
Anime is made to the tastes of people who buy.
The weeb who is dissatisfied with the state of anime but doesn't exercise his ability to vote must consider blaming himself.

BDs are too fucking expensive.

Maybe they shouldnt be so stupidly overpriced

>Oh no how dare them to not buy stuff they don't like!

Apparently "Mushoku Tensei" is coming next, which is like the exact opposite.

>Mushoku Tensei
>A 34-year-old Japanese NEET is kicked out of his house following the death of his parents. He intercepts a speeding truck heading towards a group of teenagers and pulls one of them out of the way before dying. Awakening in a baby's body, he realizes he has been reincarnated in a world of sword and sorcery. While initially indulging in his perversion, he resolves to become successful in his new life, discarding his past identity for his new life as Rudeus Greyrat. Due to his genetic factor and early training, Rudeus becomes highly skilled at magic. During his childhood, he becomes a student of Roxy Migurdia, friend to Sylphiette, and teacher to Eris Boreas Greyrat. Shortly after, a teleportation catastrophe scatters many people around the world, and Rudeus resolves to escort Eris home. During his journey, Rudeus receives advice from the mysterious Human-God and befriends Ruijerd Supardia. Successfully escorting Eris home, a misunderstanding with her leaves Rudeus heartbroken.
>Two years later, the incident with Eris has made Rudeus impotent. He enrolls in Ronoa Magic University under the Human-God's advice to cure himself. There, he is reunited with Sylphiette who cures his impotency and the two are wedded shortly after. Rudeus receives a request to join his father's quest to save his mother, and ignores the Human-god's advice to do so. During the quest, he develops a romantic relationship with Roxy and takes her as his second wife. He is then visited by a dying future version of himself, warning him the Human-God will cause the deaths of everyone he cares about. In order to appease the Human-God, Rudeus attempts to kill one of his enemies, a warrior named Orsted but fails; instead, Rudeus offers his allegiance to Orsted in exchange for his family's protection. Shortly after, Rudeus takes Eris as his third wife.
What the fuck even is this plot?

"Yikes!"

>What the fuck even is this plot?
Good-old Japanese isekai wish-fulfillment.

They’re already relying more on merchandise sales instead of bd because you gaijins are willing to shill endlessly for merchandise. And they know it.

How about dropping the prices to a reasonable level then? What they have now is a ripoff, plain and simple.

The current prices are reasonable.
They are targeting a niche, that highly rewards being catered to.
The prices are not the problem. The problem is they are trying to betray the niche that made them what they are.

Streaming is the future.

Hopefully.

Am I the only one who rejoices at the thought of BluRay dying a premature death before a BD drive becomes a staple of every computer?

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Good.
God I can't wait for Japan's archaic business model to crash and burn.
It's time for the country to join us in the 21th century and to stop pretending it's financially viable to base entire animation productions on the gamble "Will enough losers buy garbage BD sets at 4x the price they'd pay for in another country?".

Maybe they can also pick up the opportunity and do away with their idiotic "We have to pay the network for the privilege of being aired" system and switch to the much more sensical "The network pays US for the program that brings them share and advertisers" system.

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>showing support for a good product is dumb
based retardbro