Shokugeki no Soma or Bleach?
Which one had the worse downfall?
Soma was never good
Bleach
Hunter X Hunter
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Stop disrespecting Bleach like this. It's the 6th best-selling WSJ title, and Soma never reached the highs Bleach did. Even some of the asspulls were entertaining.
This happens to every series in Shounen after X number of chapters
>the 6th best-selling WSJ title
So what? it isn't immune to criticism
Bleach was a pillar.
>the worst downfall
Your parents' life when you were born
Only Bleach had a height to fall down from.
Bleach had a higher peak, Souma fell lower.
Shokugeki easily, Bleach still had some nice and meme moments here and there but Shokugeki?
its get worse and worse each chapter after el hermano shows up
Bleach went from actually good to completely retarded and shit.
Souma went from decent to unreadable.
So I'll go with Bleach because that was an actual loss.
I want to say Bleach so much, but truth be told I would never read a cooking shounen manga. And I actually enjoy cooking.
>being this mad
Hit a nerve?
No
Terrible and pointless burn, apply yourself next time.
bleach was never good
Kubo is a hack.
Your mother
dead manga
Toriko
new manga from him never ever
rent free
Dumb hiatusfag
Your father
You're brothers
It was underrated.
Get a room.
I'd like to see you do better
your*
Bleach fell mighty hard, but some claim it was a wasted masterpiece.
Meh.
Shokugeki No Souma.
O B S E S S E D
Nope
HxH should've just ended with Gon finding his Dad and should've never brought up that other regions/worlds bullshit.
Shokugeki was actually WONDERFUL for the first 20 chapters at least. Lots of fun, spectacular art, a theme is stuck to.
Then, it became true shonen. And nothing survives that. Maybe Toriko.
>Then, it became true shonen.
I mean he manage to asspulls in a cooking manga of all things.
WSJ series are far from being any sort of gold standard in writing so idk what your point is
The taste of food doesn't really matter, it's the taste of friendship. It's the cooking you did along the way that really matters.
Unless you're evil. Then your cooking and friendship is going to lose. And anyone who enjoys the food you make. It's probably evil food, just like everyone who enjoyed it without repenting.
Bleach no fucking contest.
It was one of the big three and one of the most popular WSJ series before the anime got cancelled and the manga given an abrupt ending.
I wish the anime came back
That will never happen
Based user annihilating OP
Bleach was never good
Soma was great at the beginning
The Promised Neverland
This but vice versa
haven't kept up with shokugei what went wrong?
Literally El Hermano showed up and his trying to NTR the MC
Erina's dad showed up and the series took a nosedive
Then Soma's adopted brother that he never knew existed dragged it down even further with a bunch of 'superhuman chef' nonsense
And he can apparently copy any chef's skillset if he takes their cooking utensils
Oh, and he wants to bang Erina
everything
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Joe got his ass kicked by a literal who is also Soma's lost brother aka El Hermano
He is also NTRing Soma
They also use Chainsaws and Guillotines for cooking because they are apparently better than using a knife
Hunter x Hunter ENDED when Gon find his dad, Togashi said it himself that the story was done there, everything that came after it is just Togashi paying rent.
Shokugeki no Souma is truly the Gal Cleaning of shounen.
Objectively Soma. Bleach continued to sell well and people still followed it and actively discussed it despite its decline. Soma on the other hand tanked hard in sales and people abandoned it in droves.
Also this.
>4th arguably 3rd biggest anime in the world
>Forgotten cooking series
Cope harder OPtards
From what I see Soma is wasting its time on retarded awful plotlines, while Bleach wasted with its godawful pacing on meaningless characters way too fucking much, only to end it all like a wet fart in two seconds.
I'm still mad
Souma sold its soul to demons
Shokugeki by a landslide, Tosh went from upgrading his art to turning it into an assembly line production, let alone the fact that we lose a prominent hentai artist that was getting better and better.
All Kubo did was copy Togashi and made Bleach bootleg HxH but with actual drawing skills with a dash of JoJo poses. That's not too bad a trade considering all we lost were the backgrounds and proper pacing.
Hey, Tosh still had his touch back during the RdC, but yeah, during this arc he doesn't even bother with the foodgasms.
No, by RdC he already compromised heavily on many of the characters such as Erina. Her details were heavily reduced and made to look like a generic moe girl, which while transitioning well when Tosh draws the chibi SDs, lacks the elegance and beauty that Erina had in the early chapters. Let's not even get into how everyone's body proportions rapidly shifts even within the same fucking chapter unlike the consistent anatomy of the early arcs.
>Let's not even get into how everyone's body proportions rapidly shifts even within the same fucking chapter unlike the consistent anatomy of the early arcs.
thought i was the only one that noticed this. megumis chest was quite big in the last chapter in that one panel.
>copy Togashi and made Bleach bootleg HxH
What? How?
I used to complain a lot when I was following it weekly, now I just wait wait and wait hoping to binge it all once it's finished. It's not exciting enough for me on a weekly basis anymore, nor is the art good enough for me to spend a lot of time in threads hoping to get meme edits and such.
And I'm certain most people stopped around the same time I did too, especially nips since there's literally no new doujins anymore and barely any pixiv art. Even fucking Hisasi gave up as far as I can tell.
>Increase text count by 3x
>Decrease action panels by 2/3rds
>Zero backgrounds
How indeed.
the only nip art i see anymore is of that doramame artist that used to draw sorina but now draws erina and el hermano. the manga is rushed irredeemable trash now and im certain its ending in another volume or two so you can binge soon.
>Increase text count by 3x
Wat
I always said the RdC was the equivalent of the Christmas Bowl in ES21 and that anything after would be the equivalent of the World Championship aka milking it out. It might not be the most apt comparison, but the point is the author simply ran out of steam and I bet even Mori is getting tired of being a consultant.
During the Shinigami Substitute and Soul Society arc there was a much more balanced dialogue to action ratio. It wasn't great by any means, but at least we had backgrounds. Once it hit Hueco Mundo or whatever Ghost Mexico was called it was incredibly lazy, and that much should have been obvious given how Kubo decided to create a setting where he didn't even have to draw backgrounds half the time thanks to everything being Bleached.
What you say simply does not reflect reality
It actually does, your denial doesn't reflect reality. You can go archive and look up how hard Yea Forums or even the rest of the internet complained about how lazy Kubo got. If you dare put a side by side comparison of the fight panels next to the anime fight scenes you'll realize Kubo doesn't even have a 1:50 key frame ratio for the studio to work with, they just had to wing it all on their own.
I don't think they've consulted Mori in ages. If she saw all the shit that's been happening like chainsaw cooking, guillotine cooking and whatever the fuck El Hermano did in the latest chapter ("my knives made the meat taste like it aged two months" fuck out of here), I get the feeling she would stab Tsukuda's hand with her sharpest knife.
>I don't think they've consulted Mori in ages.
No wonder the food began to look like shit. I'm not even talking about the techniques, just the art itself relies too heavily on sparkles and glazing like almost every dish is coated in crystal and oil.
pretty sure mori is no longer working on the series since she got pregnant. the shit that has been happening makes no sense. we dont even get to see cooking anymore. just flashy moves, an underwhelming dish and lackluster reactions.
Bleach is winning right now, but Soma is on free fall right now. I predict Soma will end up with the worse downfall and avoid getting axed because the art will get more and more lewd. Just imagine Fairy Tail, but even shittier.
Now you are moving goal posts
That explains so much.
SnS was never good. Bleach kinda fell off towards the end but I'd still like to see a continued anime so I don't consider it a total loss.
No I'm not, I'm substantiating my claim you retard. Stop using buzzwords you don't understand, why the fuck should I spoonfeed you what everyone that isn't a zoomer or a delusional bleachfag already agrees with? You can either try to prove my claim wrong by actually providing evidence or shut the fuck up, nobody has to prove to you water is wet.
See, if Shokugeki was a hentai then Erina would have been knocked up at that point and it'd be happy ending. Alas, this is the shit we get.
Not yet it isn't. When El Hermano complete the cucking of Soma by banging Erina in front of all the Blue spectators, THEN it will be the Gal Cleaning of shounen.
>appeal to masses
>Posts a manga that got axed too soon while taking about mangas that lasted long enough to become worn out
But why?
At this point I wish Soma was just a strait ecchi manga. Sell the tits that's the only thing the series has left.
I hope Tosh does something good in his next manga
In case you faggots are too young to remember but Bleach was at the upper echelon of Jump for a good portion of its lifespan while Souma never came close to its peak. Kubo managed to fuck up enough that even the most hardcore Bleachfag got sick of him while Souma is and has always been mainly supported by waifufags who don't care about anything else so its fall from grace was pretty much expected but you just can't help but laugh at Bleach for stumbling as much as it did.
tits aren't worth it
>Bleach continued to sell well and people still followed it and actively discussed it despite its decline.
This is all wrong. The fact that there was articles and videos about Bleach's decline is proof enough. Sales, ranks and discussion went down.
I'm still surprised Bleach got as popular as it did.
Soma went from decent to bad to literal trash.
Bleach had its highs and lows but was consistently entertaining
fag
They are both shit get better taste
no u. Tits are gross.
Nope, the ending was a bit rushed but the ending was incredibly satisfying, unlike a certain disciple.
>Enjoy the manga for what it was up until they win their seats
>Suddenly EVIL CHEFS
>Drop it as soon as the brother appears
>mfw people have only been saying it gets worse and worse
show me a good standard.
Humanity for letting this thread continue to exist as well as eventually leading to your creation.
actual faggot
the one that had copy off of the design and characterization of the main villain of the other.
SnS. Soma peaked with the Autumn Election and the Stag arcs, but fell right afterwards with the Azami arc. It was a quick, sharp decline.
Bleach was a long, slow downfall after Soul Society.
Seems to me people were still interested in Bleach until the end. We had the Hall of Anal devastation 2.0 with Bleach, and it was well worth the wait. There will be no such thing with O MY KNIFE COLLECTION.
Apply yourself next time you underaged dipshit.
At least people actually read Bleach.
What? The moment the king beasts entered the manga it was a FUCKING RIDE Man I should reread it.
Carried by the shonen wave of the 2000s led by Naruto in the West and One Piece everywhere else.
wouldn't all those accolades make a fall from grace even worse? hop off kubo's dick for a sec so that you can see whats actually being said
So much this.
The first few arcs were so good and then it went complete dogshit.
The world god only knows
>It sold well, so that justifies its "high quality."
Mark Hamill would like a word.
Mx0.
And Double Arts.
Now that was a trainwreck worth watching.
> Now that was a masterpiece worth watching
FTFY
>still seething
History's Strongest Disciple Kenichi had one hell of a downfall
Just because the Goddess arc was a wild ride doesn't mean that the rest of it was bad. I quite liked Keima going back in time. Also, Chihiro might not be best girl, but she loved Keima for what he truly was. Almost everybody else fell for a ruse.
The man was robed of an amazing arc and even further beyond the space arc. Imagine if every single beast got the Bambina treatment, it's not fair.
You know backgrounds are drawn by assistants, right? Kubo simply had to tell his assistants to draw them here or there. So that wasn't Kubo's lack of effort.
Tokyo ghoul
Berserk fall was worst. Only the Golden Age arc is good, and that is just 13 volumes (counting since the start of the manga)
Bleach was a fun ride, it was like being on a train falling into the Grand Canyon in slow motion and watching all the train cars in front of yours crumple and burn.
Shokugeki is like riding a trolley that crashes into another trolley and you get knocked off and skin your knee. No spectacle, just mild pain.
Magi. Practically nobody talked anything about it during the last volumes. People forgot it very quickly.
Blue Exorcist. It barely has 20 volumes and its sales are already the half of what they were, (which were very good, better than My Hero Academia). Peoplehave completely forgotten it.
Yorkshin arc was really good, but every thing after it suck. It's really a shame. Now Tagashi just "draws" 10 chapter a year to sell a volume when the money of the previous batch starts to run out.
10 IQ
Devolving of Erinas character and her sudden bigger than life mommy issues made it impossible for me to continue Soma.
Such a shame.