Black Clover 197

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do i need to dump it again?

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Thong or nopan?

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This is the third black clover thread currently up

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Thanks user the other "dump thread" is bait

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The first one is dead and the other was doa because it was tit bait

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Based Satan BTFO elves and humans.

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Absolutely spoopy

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It feels good having a fantasy series where Elves aren't held up on pedestals proclaiming how great they are and how Humans ruin everything, Elves having flaws and being able to be tricked is nice.

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so 4-leaf grimoires are like crimson behelits from berserk? that's cool!

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That's all for today folks. sorry only can give you guys watermarked M$ version. JB said they will release their version tomorrow because stuff happen.

see you next week.

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>Making smug elf tastes despair
Demon-san is alright in my book

Based Demon

Schrodinger pan

I really like how Asta and Yuno complement each other

How will Patri ever recover

Yeah I actually like this turn of events, now we have an explanation for why Four-Leaf Grimoire equivalents don't exist in the Diamond Kingdom, they are pseudo-artificial.

Even though they should cancel eachother out like this.

>Top left panel
Satan-kun has a brother

y tho?

Asta is just sucking magic in an AoE, shouldn't Yuno get fucked as well?

Did you forget Asta can choose who's magic he's canceling?

I wonder how the Demon in Asta will react, what if he eats this joker and gets stronger?

>#multiple penetration
>#mind break

That's not very progressive of you Asta.

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tabata is pretty good at two page spreads.

This chapter confirms that Asta and Yuno are equal in strength

it's apples and oranges, but both are strong
you could even say that they're shonen protagonist strong

Asta is redpilled didn't you know?

Is this supposed to be the final battle of the arc? I feel like it came out of nowhere right in the middle of everything else. We haven't even seen what Licht, Nozel, Yami, Rades, Valtos, Gueldre and Revchi are doing and we also don't know where Charla and the wisdom apostle are. There's also a bunch of fights that we haven't seen the conclusions of yet. I get that Tabata might be looking to finish the arc since it's been such a long one but things still feel incomplete to me.

Ah, so he did tap into his unlimited NOT GIVING UP.

>it came out of nowhere
they interrupted the final battle of the arc to have a different final battle and start a new arc where elves and humans work together to punk this devil

remember when people joked that Black Clover wasn't the King of Shonen... whos laughing now?

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Well Asta showed the ability to control the antimagic energy, and the page shows how the mana and antimana arent touching each other.

> pretty good
He is the leading champion out of all shounen jump mangakas.

Idk I really like Tabata's art, but Furudate has improved quite a bit lately. And his panels are super good. I just like Tabata's two page spreads a ton.

>elves and humans work together
I don't think it works like that. Now that we know the demon was responsible for resurrecting the elves we can also assume the curse that makes the elves hate humans and causes them to go apeshit when losing is also the work of the demon. And since placing the final stone was a trap it means the elves don't know how to get rid of the curse. The only way to do so, which is to use Asta's sword, also removes the reincarnation spell, meaning the elf in question will go back to being dead. So the elves are faced with a choice between going berserk or dying. At best the ones with brand new bodies might survive and maybe Rhya and Ronne as well.

laugh in fujimoto tatsuki

Prove your worth vs Dorothy Unsworth

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That's fucked up, Patri killed his only human friend for the greater good. But in the end, it was all for naught.

Reposting from a previous thread.

The demon saying "die" is probably going to be the climax of the fight. The demon did say he loves to play with humans and elves. Furthermore, he's smiling in the last page. While he's surprised by Asta's and Yuno's tenacity, he's not intimidated by them as all their efforts only resulted in the sword attack being counter.
He can easily take out Asta and Yuno, but he won't because he'd rather play with them. I can see this fight going two ways.
>The demon gets bored and uses "die" on Asta or Yuno because he thinks it would be fun to see one of them have an emotional breakdown.
>The demon does get pushed into a corner and uses "die" to turn the fight into his favor.
What would be interesting is if he manages to kill Yuno. Not saying that Yuno deserves death (he doesn't,) but it would drastically change the tone of Black Clover.

>die
They're in the border of life and death.

The devil was right about that. They did the opposite of what Licht wanted.

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>still under Bnha in terms of ratings.

>What would be interesting is if he manages to kill Yuno. Not saying that Yuno deserves death (he doesn't,) but it would drastically change the tone of Black Clover.
It would most likely be Yuno, since Asta's anti-magic could protect him. But I don't think a shonen rival should die this early.

Tabata subliminally teaching young boys that being a faggot will only result in despair.

Or the 3rd option, which is that none of them will die because they already resisted the "kneel" spell.

Tabata could pull a fake out and make it seem like he died but since they are inbetween worlds right now they can't really die since its basically Purgatory, look to the fact Rhya is still kicking for evidence of that.

Yuno could die, and still live, since he has the other soul inside him.

>look to the fact Rhya is still kicking for evidence of that.
While I agree with your assumption, Rhya's not dying because Patri was healing him.

>pulling a Yu-Gi-Oh!

Crunchyroll love you

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Abe approves

I think it's probably going to bleed into the next arc of the series
Not sure if the current one will start wrapping up now with Elves making something of a tactical retreat, Siding with humans (since they just found out they were lied to all this time anyway) or perhaps just "give up".
Personally I think the latter is the only one really worth playing out.

His powers are not that strong he already said "be broken" but that didn't happen

Never ever.

same energy

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Oh god no, please not again.

What kneel spell?

>THAT DISGUSTING NASTY BLACK THING
wtf I hate Asta now

when devil uses die on Yuno it will only kill licht's child inside him

Current mangakas maybe

Since when were you under the impression that you were free from the keikaku?

Devil-kun doing Yuno's iconic face! Guess he really likes Patri.

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Was the fake lichts grimoire turning black? Is a new demon about to be born?

>noelle's fat ass spilling out
lewd

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>Elves making something of a tactical retreat
They can't. The demon cursed the reincarnated elves with Wicked Heart to prevent them from thinking rationally. If anything the demon might be able to make the elves go even more out of control similar to what almost happened to Langris and the poison plant elf in Hage.

Deym hips
Makes me want to slap her ass in front of Yami

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umm.. yess? do you even read? this is the whole monologue demon has given this chapter.

Damn, you wanna die that badly?

Fuck off, Yami

dude, chose a better way to suicide!

What about Mimosa, might just kill her.

Reminder that Noelle is for Nozel.

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No, he can't. Remember the fight against Ladros and Droite? I don't remember how, but he seems to be drawn by mana and can't help but to cancel it. At least in his demon form.

>Is this supposed to be the final battle of the arc?
Tabata would've said something.

Yes, death to cowtits.

Asta doesn't cancel magic, his sword does. He's no touma kamijou

Not bad, Tabata!

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This was the most obvious shit, what are you doing?

Asta is breaking his limits and learning how to control anti magic. Witch queen said he sub consciously turns the power on and off

Tabata has this shit all thought out. So much shit has been foreshadowed. It really pisses me off when people call shit asspulls in this manga.

because if they don't call it Asspulls the manga they have to admit my shitty academia is asspulls the manga

So far we can't say for sure, only time will tell.

what's funny is Jojo's Bizarre Adventure is one of my fave mangas of all time, but EVERY fight is a fucking asspull. No one ever shits on it for that.

Please don't start with console wars shit here.

The chapter 22 panel actually seems somewhat contradictory to me, since that text appeared when the grimoire absorbed Licht's 2nd sword. Anti-magic is demonic in nature, but Licht's sword should not be, unless the elves and demons share a common language which is different from whatever they speak in Clover.

The sword Asta got was already blackened though, didn't the swords become white when Licht grabbed them?

I'd argue that as a 5th leaf grimoire, it's already been changed so that any swords returned to it become demon magic or anti magic in this case. Had it been before, it might have been different or normal symbols?

Glorious BC master race

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Yuno rescue arc when?

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What exactly is the relationship between the elves and the demons? Patri used demon magic to resurrect the Third Eye, Vetto combined demon magic with his own and Fana talked about the demons enhancing the elves' magic or something, all of which implies some sort of cooperation or perhaps even worship. However, Licht's swords have names like demon-slayer and demon-destroyer, which suggests that they considered the demons their enemies, which is also supported by the demon mentioning how Licht opposed him in the past. It doesn't really make sense to me.

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Giving Julius all these cute moments in the anime will really make his death feel like shit.

Patri has sold his soul to the demons to enhance his own power and achieve 'revenge'.

I get the impression that Licht and the first Wizard King were the enemies of the demons.

He got killed off way too early desu.

The third Hokage died at around the same time, if not earlier.

>Patri has sold his soul to the demons
Did he though? He seemed surprised and scared shitless when the demon actually showed up.

>Yuno dies
ASTA MODO DEMONIO ANTI MAGICO COMPLETADO

yuno is not bakugou or sasuke

so devil-san is the one who actually casted this spell?

He’s coming back, time magic should atleast have a spell to revive from a mere stab.

axe soon failed anime

enjoy your shit anime while it lasts

shut up axefug

tpn is bigger kny will be bigger
bc axed

Fag btfo

3 more chapters and the manga will reach the 200 chapter mark, very proud of BC!! Can't wait for what Tabata has in store for the next arc

So apparently demons and Asta's devil are two different species?

>tpn is bigger
And?
>kny will be bigger
will call when this happens
and he has a final arc

Patri may as well have sold his soul since he's done all of their dirty work for them.

The worst deal with the devil is the deal you never realized you made.

What makes you think that?

250 chapters when it ends

Source?

>Some user said Tabata wanted to make BC more like berserk
Oh no.

250 chapters it's about 25 volumes
it is even smaller than beelzebub and saiki (whose sales were lower than clover)
The sket dance had 32 volumes, for example

Just got up to this part. Is Vanessa's magic based off of the Sisters of Fate from Greek mythology? The ability to control fate with the strand of a string can be used to kill a god. This power sounds pretty endgame. Maybe the whole Black Bulls will get crazy power-ups besides just Asta.

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Okay, so.
Charlotte's event has end but you can still whack the 4 bulls until maintenance.
>thorny dildo vs bbc w/ finral
>Charlotte solo and is very clever to attack the support first while dodging Yami's penetrating slash
>Finral got jobbed, and Yami is seething that he's having a hard time to fight against a captain without a support(what a weak ass)
>the capital is in a bit of wreckage
>two captains is about to go all out
>Julius the killjoy appeared and stop the disguised sex fight
>scolded deym shit that it's no longer an exercise training.
>pointing the major cause at Charlotte (WTF!)
>but telling them both to write a reflection letter or some guidance shit later on for what they had caused.
>>>>fastforwarding
>Yami:"How's the skills of my subordinate(Finral)?"
>Char:"He seems quiet good for a support type."
>Yami:"Oh? That also said, your magic keep quiet getting stronger than before, you know?"
>Char:'.............WEEEEEEEEEEEEW.'
>Yami made Charlotte wigul for praising her over how she gets stronger everytime they met.
Wew, this is it for the summary
But, HAH!! Yami with support jobbing on Charlotte whose at it's weakened state. Time to put your Yami into a garbo tier

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Are you okay?

thanks, that goes into my /pol/ folder.

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Nice

Lmao I literally just read it in my own game. I love this.

Ten bucks the demon right now is the Raditz of his race, the absolute state of humans and evolves jobbing to just him.

Predicting that this demon is end but getting bullied by the devil in asta.

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cheers user

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Nope. Even with a broken shit magic, she won't last longer with her commoner mana level.

Yuno will survive because Licht's unborn baby will take the hit for him. Screencap this.

>Demon dude didn't have a body 500 years ago
>He played everyone like a damn fiddle so that he could incarnate
>Except his plan failed and he ended up re-incarnating the elves to try again
I'm utterly confused now.
Where did Demon dude come from originally? How did he manage to play everyone if he had no body? Where how and why Asta's Grimoire has a demon on it too? Call me a brainlet but I don't get it.

I like BC but it still isn’t

Where is Yami anyway? I want him to job somewhere that matters.

The way he explains it up here>500 years ago the humans and elves defeated the demons together.
>Sealed them with the shadow palace pact
>They planned a happy epilogue wedding
>He got revenge at the last minute
>Reincarnated himself and Patri into the present

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Was N$ version always like this? the typesetting looked like totally from jb

We're not there, but we're doing better and better each week!
I strongly think that, given a year or two, BC will outdo Hero Academia.

>That devil over there
Owo?

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>Demon Script when Vetto regenerates his arm
>Demon Script when the elves get reincarnated
Based Tabata and his god-tier pottery

Lmao, just saw the scenes.
Yami is a jobber, wtf.
Charlotte almost overwhelmed him not until Julius appears.

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IMAGINE

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But then who attacked the elves? The humans? How did the Demon manipulate him if he had already been sealed?

Wait so this demon and the one in asta's book are two different things? Wtf

*Manipulate them

>Julius will never fanboy over half dwarf Charmy
Bros...

The royals were manipulated into attacking the elves, user. Please read through the recent chapter again. He was able to manipulate them with temptations of power, but he didn't have an actual body to give himself form in the physical world. Royals are power-hungry, maybe they found him by accident again after a long time that they forgot how big a threat they were

It appears to be that way.

It still hurts.

That's nuts so this definitely isn't the final

It's a shame that a lot of these hype moments won't get any amazing animation.

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63 will happen again
We will love it

Jobber Yami confirmed lol

The one where they're splatted on the ground

>No one ever shits on it for that.
Like how people hide Gintama behind the excuse of it's a gag manga, Jojofags hide it behind the excuse "rule of cool"

So this is final arc?

Holy shit is Julius Demon-kun?

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I doubt it, we've still got the entire world to explore. We still no almost nothing about the Heart and Spade Kingdoms.

>final arc
the first part

No, diamond or heart arc is next.
To keep up with the rising powerlevels they need to get machines or harvest the demon/anti magic source.

Maybe Julius is talking about himself as the incarnation of time? That Patri will never win against time itself?

>teleports behind you
>teleports behind YOU

Seriously, Tabata has given a dozen interviews saying this is the "first arc" and it should end next year

It's going to be Asta that takes the "die" because Yuno's 4-leaf is useful to the demon while Asta's grimoire is what he wanted to create 500 years ago. It's just going to result in the devil taking the hit for Asta using anti-magic and then shitting all over the demon.

So, Patri stomped Julius and now he's a little bitch being saved by Yuno. I bet even Asta could solo him right now. I miss the times when I used to respect Julius's strength.

>keep up with the rising powerlevels
Unnecessary. The only reason the powerlevels have risen is because all of Clover's captains are involved in the fight so the enemies have to be strong as well. It's highly unlikely that all the captains are going to travel with Asta to Diamond or Heart so the enemies there just have to be Bull level instead of captain level. Remember that Asta needed help from 2 or 3 of his buddies against both Luck and Droite, didn't even manage to get close to Rila even though the fight was 2v1 and now is only doing okay against the demon because Yuno's powers complement Asta's and they have flawless teamwork. 1v1 even Mars and Ladros level enemies are still a threat to Asta, not to mention the rest of the gang. Diamond's generals are going to be weaker than the captains and the elf apostles.

stop being retarded.

>Patri stomped Julius
Nice joke.

Yeah he did, if Julius was really strong, the fight would've been over in less than 3 seconds.

If you were not stupid, you could understand the context.

I did understand, Julius is weak. He dragged the fight long enough to get himself killed. Against a little shit like Patri no less.

>Diamond's generals are going to be weaker than the captains and the elf apostles.
Not him but let me clarify: weaker in the sense that their mana pools will be smaller. Not in the sense of knowing about modern magical combat and prior knowledge of Asta.

Literally already confirmed the anime will have the elf arc

They can't cover all of the elf arc in this year alone, so that's another 52 episodes.
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The Chinese leak was right all along, 153.

Patri is not a complete shitter either. You're exaggerating.

>He dragged the fight long enough to get killed
Patri wanted to kill Julius.
Julius didn't wanna kill Patri.
Patri made sure Julius exhausted himself by attacking the capital.
Julius protected it because that's his job but he didn't have nearly enough strength leftover to fight afterwards.
What part of this is hard to get, again?

cursed image

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He used all his "time" to save the kingdom, and his grimoire dissapeared

Patri is just the tiniest bit faster than Julius's Time Magic, and Julius merely wanted to bind Patri instead of actually killing him, likely to get back Vangeance. This, combined with his pride from being the Wizard King, along with the responsibility to take care of everyone in the Clover Kingdom, led to his downfall. He didn't get stomped at all. If he really tried his hardest, he could have killed Patri, but he felt that he could go the extra mile and take back Vangeance while he was at it

>Patri is just the tiniest bit faster than Julius's Time Magic
They're both faster, if they can both evade sped up light magic

Sure, you're right, Patri is the strongest character ever, no wonder he won against Julius.

I doubt even Pierrot plans things that far ahead, so 153 episodes was probably just the amount they had decided on back then. However, even that 153 seems like a bit of a stretch at this point considering that the anime can't get too close to the manga because the studio wouldn't be able to plan ahead when it comes to things like pacing and home video releases. I'm guessing Tabata had to provide Pierrot with some sort of a summary regarding whatever arcs are going to happen after the elf arc and approximately how long they're going to be so that they know what they're doing now that the anime is about to enter the same arc that the manga is in. Either that or there's going to be a filler arc after the elves.

I think Tabata did provide Pierrot with a general rundown of the first arc. And because BC is reportedly popular in China, they had to give them the total number of eps during negotiation.

>anime can't get too close to the manga
We've done the math in these threads every week.
The anime isn't catching up to the manga until 2022. Episode 215.

>one demon has reality altering word magic
>Asta's demon has anti-magic
>hurr durr they're different demons!?!?!

Lonne didn't place the final magic stone in the same pedestal as the others.

>reportedly popular in China
Literally hundreds of millions of views on iqiyi

Anyone else think that Julius has fought Patri hundreds, maybe thousands of times? I can't believe that the WK who has time magic can't loop back towards the past. It's like a basic of time magic. And that's why he told Patri that he will lose to Julius, because of all the timelines where he fights Patri, the only one that doesn't fail is the one where he'll die.

I guess you've had that conversation a few too many times because you missed the fact that I'm making an entirely different argument. Let's read that sentence again.
>because the studio wouldn't be able to plan ahead when it comes to things like pacing and home video releases
It's not about chapter x coming out this week and the anime adapting it next week, which is what your calculations are about. There has to be a decent amount of breathing room between the manga and the anime in order for the studio to be able to figure out the pacing, the release schedule for the BDs and also to account for manga breaks or production issues. That's why you occasionally see the directors tweeting about things weeks or months in advance. A few weeks ago someone mentioned how Pierrot had already listed the contents of something like 3 upcoming BD-boxes, which means Pierrot is planning things at least 30 episodes ahead. With a pacing of between 1.5-2 chapters per episode that's 45-60 chapters. For comparison the anime is currently about 80 chapters behind, so they're already going to be out of their comfort zone in a matter of months. Your calculations are off by at least a year or two.

Why chinks loves BC so much?

Is 150 episodes possible?

Because it is a generic shonen clone of other series. You know how much chinks lover their clones

they are dumb like bc fans

More than possible. 150 eps isn't enough to cover the 2nd half of the elf arc.

if your delusional yes

>Commoner mana level

Except isn't she the queen's daughter? I'm pretty sure that would put her at near royal levels of mana, it's just her magic isn't exactly great at anything attack wise. I mean it could be but using razor threads to cut people up is a little dark for a manga like this. I mean she used a spell that altered fate what like 5 times in a row after bean worn out from fighting? That's gotta take an insane level of power to pull off

Clover royalty got the elf mana. Not other countries royalty.
Hell if anything the only reason why Clover is holding out vs other militarily superior countries is because of that fact.

Cope baldy

Every witch is the queens daughter.
Are you going to argue they all have royalty tier mana?

Arabs also love bc, the designs are appealing.
Diamond arc with the bulls wearing Persian clothing will be the best arc yet.

Not royalty, but noble tier mana for sure. Just look at the mana pool that Dorothy has

Point is the queen obviously did something to be so powerful and it seems mana is passed down genetically, since if that wasn't the case then all royals after would far weaker instead of stronger. So Vanessa also being a super special fate altering magic daughter of a highly powerful mother would make sense for her to have higher than average mana levels at least

I wouldn't mind if Tabata took some cues from Otoyomegatari. That manga is beautiful.

I agree that mana is passed down genetically. But only that, not the WQ's near-immortality. The father matters too.

rades is not a noble yet his mana pool is fuck huge
It's not an argument if one of the queens thousands of daughters has shit loads of mana.

That's data book already shown she just has average mana.

Fucking deal with it.
It's a good limitation to her powerful ability.

>Arabs also love bc
Culturally, Arabs hate the whole "do great shit but not get recognized for it" deal. BC promotion system running on merit is exactly what appeals to them.

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The mark on Yuno's face got bigger?

Yeah. Caught it the first time right away tho

Black mark on astas face got thicker and he has 2 sharp teeth

Is it also just me or the horn got bigger?

He always had 2 sharp teeth.

this show is just like a worse version of yugioh
it'll never be worth the shit on naruto's sandal

I wish we got more shirtless Asta

Do you not remember how the fight went down? Patri gets stomped then decides to target the city forcing julius to either dodge an attack on himself or let the people be massacred. Patri won but it had nothing to do with strength or even intelligence. Julius was the Wizard King and chose to die instead of letting his subjects perish. That's not being stomped that's being a hero.

I wish we could get more shirtless Mimosa

This

I think it's just you.

Im catching up with BC right now and finished the tournament arc. Was someone else disappointed that Zora who was introduced as a rebel with a deep grudge against nobels, in the end joined the system he hated so much?

It's not fair that noelle gets all these delectable nopan shots mimosa just gets some minor Boob teases.
Damn tsun bias..

The Bulls don't adhere to the system by default.
Zora's walking a fine line but he hasn't betrayed his philosophies.

>150 eps isn't enough to cover the 2nd half of the elf arc
The anime has covered 115 chapters in 74 episodes. Add one more and multiply by two and that's roughly 235 chapters. This arc has already lasted over 50 chapters and you think there's more than 40 chapters to go? And that's not even taking into account the fact that Pierrot went out of their way to stretch the short ~10 episode arcs to fit them into their BD box-sets and that the elf arc is very fight heavy which is both faster and more expensive to animate. Based on the Witches' Forest being 28 chapters in 15 episodes(which also included some LN stuff):
>10 episodes for the royal knights (112-132)
>12 for the base raid (133-157)
>12 for all the stuff up until the Bulls arrive at the capital (157-181 or 182)
>9-12 for the Apostles and whatever the demon is going to do (181/182 - 205 or so if the pattern holds)
And the arc will either end there if most of the elf fights get interrupted or, the more likely option, there's going to be another 20 chapters or 10 episodes spent on all of them as well as Yami, Rades, Gueldre, etc. So the elf arc would end somewhere between episodes 115-130, at which point the manga would be somewhere between chapters 240-260 which is 20-35 chapters ahead of the anime. The only way to get Diamond arc animated is to extend past 150 episodes, but that would likely require some filler episodes.

Friendly reminder that bc is a tsun manga

Zora didn't hate the system.
He hated the people. But not all people were like that.
All he wanted was to be like his father.

>That devil over there
So, how long till Asta befriends KuramaIMEANhis devil and can access the full power?

Also, how much you wanna bet Spade Kingdom is full of their equivalent of the devil books and the devils are basically running shit there so they can be the final boss?

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Well duh. It's just product ordering.
There probably going to be more than 160 boruto episodes too.

Depends. Astas never been good at talk no jutsu.

Pierrot better get out of the pattern they're currently in because of that exact reason. I'm saying the total of 150 won't be enough in anticipation of that. Why do you think the tournament is only starting at the end point of the cour? They're obviously switching it up.

there's already 100 Boruto episodes and they haven't even started adapting the manga, or introduced the main antagonist who they showed in a flashforward in episode 1(so they can't get away with retconning him out).

Boruto will easily have 200 episodes, and that's a bare minimum(unless it gets cancelled, which is a possibility desu).

I mean, he's currently at the equivalent of Nine-Tails Chakra mode, but limited use. He's forcing the devil's power to flow through him and using it pretty much against the guys will.

Next he's gotta befriend the devil while keeping it in a cage so it's not fully there. Then he'll get the final powerup when he lets the devil reach full power but they're still bros and work hand in hand.
Then Asta will summon a giant version of the devil around his body and punch magic god or something.
Bonus points if the final form of his devil looks more like a literal black bull with curled horns like his devil form so far has.

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It won't get cancelled, the anime makes too much money.

>Forcing
Hes not.

Tabata takes more from berzerk than naruto.
I dont think that's going to happen.

Patri had way more mana than Julius, he was stomped. Also if he wasn't a jobber, he could've used his "ultimate" time spell from the beginning to stop time and restrain Patri.

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That's basically the situation with all of pierrots long runners as of late

Julius has to "take" time to use his time magic.

We can all agree that Black Sheep/Ram is better than Black Bulls right?

Naruto had to do all that because Kurama was inside him. The devil isn't inside Asta.

Julius has a condition where in order to use his time magic, he needs to take other people's time.

He kinda is. The devil wanted to just take over on it's own but Asta wouldn't give up. They don't have a friendly relationship still, it's more that Asta is just letting the devil have his way inside him and is refusing to let go.

I mean, not really. He takes a lot of things from a lot of series. Asta's devil form keeps evolving further and now that we know there's multiple devils I'm 100% certain his devil is going to end up becoming a good guy that works with him.

Maybe, maybe not. There's obviously something weird about Asta in general. And when he's using the power, it is flowing through his body. It is inside him, if only temporarily and under his control.

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Why would this be the final?

Sheep is too on the nose.
Bulls for life

Don't forget human "story' somehow depicted the elves as a "demon worshipping race".

The issue is that filler arcs in long running shounen anime tend to be less popular than canon arcs, so Pierrot may not be too enthusiastic about going on long tangents like that. It's what originally killed the Bleach anime even though the manga at the time was selling around twice that of BC's current numbers, although admittedly the market in 2012 might have been a bit different. In a way this might be supported by the fact that they're still animating Boruto even though it's mostly filler, but then again it's the sequel to one of the most popular manga series ever so it's a bit of a special case.

>Why do you think the tournament is only starting at the end point of the cour?
BC doesn't care about cours. The anime is paced based on the BD boxes, which are between 9 and 12 episodes each. That's why the short arcs like the introduction arc and the festival get anime original episodes while the longer arcs like Witches' Forest do not. If you look at the titles of the upcoming episodes:
>Episode 74 - flower of resolution (chapter 114)
>Episode 75 - fierce battle
>Episode 76 - mage x (chapter 118)
>Episode 77- bad blood (chapter 120)
>Episode 78- peasant trap (chapter 123)
it's around 9 or 10 chapters in 10 episodes, or roughly 2 chapters per episode.

Why do you fucking want this?

>Maybe, maybe not.
It's not you imbecile. Anti magic is not the devil itself. He's not possessed.

Because he's falseflagging.

>BC doesn't care about cours. The anime is paced based on the BD boxes, which are between 9 and 12 episodes each.
That's exactly what cours are for baka.

Did you miss how there's 4 other kingdoms in this world and we haven't seen shit from 2 of them yet?
This is nowhere near finale levels. This is the end of the first major arc. It's like the equivalent of the end of Namek or the end of the Soul Society arc.
There's gonna be at least 2 major arcs for this series and there could certainly be more depending on how things are separated.

My bet is that Spade kingdom will be the final arc. Either they'll be introduced next and it'll take an arc twice as long as the Clover Kingdom one to finish them, or we'll go to Diamond or Heart kingdoms for an Arc and then Spade after.

So what are the chances that after this arc we get fags claiming that the manga peaked? Shit happened with One Piece after Marineford and MHA with Kamino arc.

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There HAS to be an isekai arc. No way Tabata lets that concept go.

Bleach shouldn't be used to prove anything, it's the ultimate exception in both manga and anime.
Kubo had too much rights to the bleach I.P. so shueisha blocked the anime from being produced anymore, pierriot and tv tokyo want to continue but they say they do not have the greenlight from shuesha.
The manga wasn't axed but stayed in the bottom for year despite the fullbring arc's last chapter ranking nr 1.

Are you prepared?

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Cours are 52/4 = 13 episodes, which is more than any of BC's box sets so far. Some of them have been 9 episodes, which is why the current arc's beginning didn't match the start of a cour, which answers your original question.

100%. BC will have a buildup arc when everybody else is in their climactic arcs.

>Anti magic is not the devil itself. He's not possessed.
Nigga did you skip this chapter? The whole point is the devil that is the source of the anti-magic was offering to possess Asta in return for letting it handle everything.

Asta refused and punched it and the result was this form where the anti-magic, the fucking devil, is flowing through him violently. It's possessing him, but at the same time, not. It's in his body but his mind is still in control.

I don't WANT it but this is clearly where it's going to go. There's only really two paths here
>The anti-magic devil stays evil and ends up leaving Asta at some point (which would mean Asta would need a power overhaul)
or
>The anti-magic devil ends up becoming a good guy and works with Asta

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>it's the ultimate exception
I get where you're coming from but you could say the same about Naruto due to its massive popularity. We don't have that many data points to work with when it comes to 100+ episode Pierrot anime so I'm reluctant to just ignore any of them. BC hasn't yet had a full filler arc so I suppose Pierrot might at least give it a shot to see how it goes, but I honestly doubt they're ever going to give BC the same kind of treatment Naruto and Bleach got.

It's just his anti magic. Not the devil.
If you read the chapter you would know it's just the anti magic.
Infact also read the hot spring arc because it also once again says it's just anti magic.

>he doesn't know about Yami Shinzo

Or the devil could still be evil and asta keeps the bitch on a leash.

Yeah, happens to every long running series pretty much.
>One Piece - Marineford (before that it was CP9)
>Naruto - Pain Arc (before that it was the first Naruto vs Sasuke)
>Bleach - Soul Society (I don't think I ever saw someone say Hueco Mundo was a higher peak)
>DBZ - Cell (or Frieza depending on taste)

Eh, an isekai arc probably would be just one or two regular arcs long. I'm talking the big shit. I think they're referred to as Sagas. Like, We're at the end of the Revived Elf Arc of the Clover Kingdom Saga. an isekai arc would fit into like the Heart/Diamond Saga or whatever.

it doesn't get that high ratings.

Yami is the endgame isekai character.

Witch Queen said that anti-magic is always flowing inside Asta. That's probably why she was able to use his Black Form without needing a demon third party.

Why does everyone keep saying tami is an isekai character.
Is it really that crazy that hes just from over seas not japan?

Elf arc is all one arc according to tabata.

Look, it's chapter 97 if you wanna go back and reread it.
The anti-magic is LITERALLY coming from a devil that presumably lives in the sword. It wants the same thing that this devil does, to have a physical body in the real world. Asta refuses though so instead the flow of the antimagic just goes through him and gives him power while he keeps his mind.
Now, in this most recent chapter, it seems that devil is reacting to this devil and pumping more power to Asta to fuck him up. Dunno if he's just jealous or if it's a natural reaction to being near another devil, but the form clearly went up another step this chapter.

I don't recall any shounen where the protagonist has an evil power and just keeps it tied down the whole series.
The vast majority of them go with the "learn to coexist" option.

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Or asta figures out anti magic without the devil's help but even then he needs another grimoire since licht's grimoire would leave him.
He could get a special grimoire with only 1 star that gives him some weapons.

>lives in the sword
??

Anti magic cones from the devil but no where is it stated that anti magic is used to posses

Japanese ratings don't matter if the money comes in from outside. Boruto is extremely popular in Asia.

Well, Yami's situation is kinda like an isekai. While it's more realistic to say that he's from a foreign country within the same universe, he's still a "Japanese" guy who ended up in a Tolkien-esque fantasy world.

I think people are just joking that he's an isekai character. He's clearly a not!Japanese person who end up in a western fantasy weird with magic, and castles and shit. That's like the plot of 90% of isekai nowadays

Until we actually see the land of the rising sun we cant really say it wont have fantasy aspects over there either

The reason people say those series peaked at those points is because they did (or at least many people think they did). It's not very surprising that a long series would have that one arc that many people consider their favorite, which makes the other arcs seem less interesting in comparison. The elf reveal was very cool and there's been a lot of interesting stuff being revealed and some long-awaited development for characters like Noelle, so it wouldn't surprise me if people end up considering this arc their favorite once it's done. I can't imagine the Diamond arc living up to this arc, but I guess we'll see.

Anti magic is not the fucking devil you mongoloid.

I dont recall yami ever saying there was no magic in not japan.

Morris is going to steal Patris grimoire and is going to make artificial grimoires of dispair.

At this rate I'm gonna end up posting the whole chapter so fuck it just have a link.
blackclovermanga.com/manga/black-clover-chapter-97/
Yes, the anti-magic comes from the sword. Presumably that's where the devil is hence the "i'm the one closest to you". But hey, maybe it's coming from in him instead. Point is, there's literally a devil that Asta had an inner conflict with to gain his black form.

And that devil 100% wanted to take over Asta's body in that moment when he first used the form. It straight up said it wants to have a body in the material world and tried to grab Asta in that spirit void thing. Just like how this devil went on about wanting a physical body in the real world.
It just couldn't cause Asta was like "no fuck you I'll do this with my own strength and I'll never give up".
Because Asta has no mana in him, the anti-magic can flow freely through his body. He literally doesn't have his own magic as of yet.

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>people consider I can't imagine the Diamond arc living up to this arc, but I guess we'll see.
Tabata will make things interesting by bringing in gods and angels.
True, but it's the fact that you have a Japanese character being brought into a western fantasy setting is probably what people are mostly comparing it to.

I doubt Morris knows about any of that stuff, unless he's working with a demon. Patri is already in the process of falling into despair so he's too late anyway.

That page is just proving everyone else's points though.

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The devil doesn't live inside the sword though, it lives inside the grimoire. Otherwise you'd need a different devil for every sword Asta ever used to activate his black mode.

D-drawanon?

>test
Did it work user?

Why else do you think it's called Grimoire of Despair and not Sword of Despair?
Why else do you think it's said that "a devil lives inside the 5th Leaf" and not inside the sword?

Your ip range picture uploading block finally done?

How?
It's literally explaining that the anti-magic is flowing from the sword, not Asta himself. he's just an empty vessel that can actually hold the sword because he's got no mana.

And the whole first half of that chapter shows that the anti-magic has a form with a consciousness that is CLEARLY a fucking devil, which was confirmed again this chapter.
There's multiple devils and they have different magic. The devil in Asta's grimoire is the source of anti-magic. The devil that fucked Patri is able to turn words into magic.
Both devils want to have a physical form in the real world as their ultimate goal. Asta's devil is just screwed cause Asta won't give up anything.

Okay, I'll admit it makes more sense that the devil is in the grimoire rather than the sword itself. But the whole idea of it still remains. It's a devil that wanted to possess Asta but can't and Asta is currently just letting the power go mad inside him but keeping his conciousness so he can weild that power.
The next obvious powerup from there is for Asta to come to some kind of compromise or partnership with the Devil so he can have the power fully envelop himself while still being a good little boy.

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MANLET DEMON CONFIRMED
THAT HEAD IS BIGGER THAN HIS WHOLE TORSO

>Asta and Yuno are already starting to match the demon
What's the upcoming twist going to be? The demon making contact with the devil in Asta's grimoire? Patri turning into a demon? The demon revealing he corrupted Licht into his henchman? Yuno's elf side fully waking up? The demon intensifying Wicked Heart, pushing all the elves to go berserk? Gueldre and Revchi showing up to mess with Asta, thus giving the demon the upper hand?

>starting to match
Really? All they're doing is exude auras that resist the word magic.

How long until Nero comes into to save everyone?

Compare the shape of that demon to the one in Asta's book Seems like Asta's demon is full chad: ripped, wild hair, big curly forward pointing horns.
Meanwhile, Word Devil is a fucking creepy nerd: makeup, wavy upward pointing hair, sticc proportions, small boring horns.

The next power up is for asta to beat the devil into even more submition and take more of his power like a Chad.

Word devil has wide feminine hips too

The argument is that anti magic does not have a sentiant mind.
The devil does but his power doesnt.
If so he could just take away the power flowing through the sword and unwillingly through peoples body.

This will sound random, but how many of you anons are black? I have the feeling this series has a lot of black people following it.

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We're all black tsun lovers here.

They half cut off his wing but considering the name of this chapter it might all go to shit in the next one.

The demon started by one-shotting Rhya and then catching Patri off-guard and casually blocking Yuno's attack. Now Asta and Yuno are already figuring out how to counter the word magic and even managed to land a hit on the demon while only taking minor damage themselves. It's not looking too bad for them so far. Of course the demon could power up somehow but considering that Patri can't even touch him I think that would lead to absolutely ridiculous powercreep.

Patri is under total despair right now. Cut him some slack. Maybe word magic only works if the recipient believes in it.

thanks user

it already is unless this current mha arc turns out to be something good

>joined
Stop speedreading, he was part of it for years

i need to reread this fucking arc i didnt understand anything who the fuck is patri
god i hate being a brainlet

>All he wanted was to be like his father.
Like pottery, the Bulls will be recognized as heroes after this arc. Not just to nobles, but to everyone.

Go back and read from when julius dies.
Legit next chapter it tells you who patry is.

The antimagic itself isn't sentient, but the source of it is clearly the devil which is sentient.
Asta is just drawing the power into the vacuum that is his manaless body and the devil is probably letting him because either it's some sort of submission thing being bound to the grimoire or, more likely, the devil doesn't want Asta to die before he can take his body.

The full details of how Asta's devil works aren't clear yet, but he's certainly the one that makes anti-magic and that's why Asta just got stronger during this fight when his devil reacted to Word Devil
I hope these guys get names soon cause it'll get confusing just calling them both devil.

Huh, I wonder if BC might manage to have some impact on Arab society as a whole. At least in the near future once the peeps that like BC get older and grow into more prominent roles.

Though that would assume there's a good chunk of arabs reading it.

Witch Queen said so here, the anti-magic is constantly flowing, so its not some controlled phenomenon unless you think the devil is constantly 24/7 pumping out the anti-magic. Biggest proof of its uncontrolled flow, is how when Julius tried to hold the sword, it started to dry in his mana.

I just realized that the elves/humans turning evil is a reference to the 666 mark that represents both humans and the beast.
It might be that the demons are beings who got corrupted or despaired since demons are defined as corrupted spirits, this can mean that devils are not necessarily evil since devils are fallen angels or jinn.
Not many people use these distinctions though which is why everything is classified as a demon and devils are just one being, satan which clearly isn't the case here.
The ram horns on asta also fit the 7 trumpets which are actually ram horns that the supposed astaroth devil in asta
has.
Bulls are a sarcificial animal in most myths and rleigions so it weird that it was chosen for the main character unless the black bulls will be sacrificiced in some politic move or tabata goes the hinduism route.
There's also a minotaur which has a bull head and lives in a dungeon which could an arc and powerup for asta, maybe even some godly trails like hercules had.

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Question: have we seen Asta trigger demon form with anything other than the demon-slayer sword? Is it a different devil (residing in each sword) or the same (residing in Asta) each time?

>Get to pic.
God damn I love this girl.
I dont think iv ever been so emotionally invested in a shounen female.

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>1 question
Yes we have.
>2nd question
No the devil resides in astas grimoire not the swords.

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Does anyone else think the Asta Yuno rivalry is pretty enjoyable? It's like how the early Naruto Sasuke feud wasn't entirely personal until Sasuke got needlessly vindictive.

I like the absence of autistic nonsense. It makes me feel like I'm not lowering my intellect.

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I noticed I'm starting to hate topics that being up other series.

The only rivals in anime that ever mattered were Ash and Gary

fuck off

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Cute Anegoleon

>Asta gets to tap either Mimosa or Noelle by the end of the story.
Fucking lucky.

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So how in the fuck did this demon get into Licht's grimoire if he's not the demon who rigged the Elven genocide just to materialize?

that sure was a cool spread

They're either born from the grimoires of despair or those allow them to cross from whatever other world they're originally from into the real world.

Plan A failed, so a new deviç was born maybe?
Word Devil had to use a plan B to get a physical body for him, but he did mention deviçs kind of get born from despair&corrupted 4 leaf grimoires.

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The 4-leaf on Patri’s grimoire was already turning black in this chapter when he got mind-raped. Does that just give a demon an actual grimoire or does it birth a new demon entirely?

The real question is if the grimoire will try to find a new master after going 5 leaf or if the demon inside it will try and possess Patri.

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knock knock let the devil in

Be killed

Be gay

ur way over thinking this shit bro.

That's not Yugi and Kaiba

That was the big payoff after her whole character arc, and that one took long enough. It was great, no other way around it, Tabata nailed it perfectly.

Where did it all go wrong.

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>be some they already are
see

>Ladros
>weaker than the captains

The only person who could've defeated Ladros was Asta since Ladros straight up countered everybody with his absorption of magic.
I'm pretty sure the Diamond Kingdom got more quirky magic that can be on par or greater than the captains. The only thing that can defeat them is the lack of experience against the people of the same powers as theirs or Asta.

To be fair, Gintama's author admits and regularly jokes that he makes the story up as he goes and not to expect anything deep from him. He's done entire episodes just wasting time saying he doesn't have any story planned, like the one where they're all under the Kot.

One sided as in Deku could kill Bakusperg with one hit.

>Yami with good support jobs on Charlotte whose magic is weakened and suppressed it's true potential due to curse
>tfw Sol saying the truth
What kind of shameful performance is this?
>Charlotte solo and is very clever to take-out the support first while dodging Yami's attack
Man, her cleverness and flexibility are already alarming, sum it up with her curse already broken.

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Charla was going for the kill and Yami was holding back to not kill Charlotte, so your powerlevel reasoning is way off

Luck was a handicap match. Droite was being assisted by broken eye magic. And elf rill had prep time to prevent Asta going black and he was protecting mimosa. Asta is far stronger than people give him credit for.

>Patry gives into despair after knowing that he inadvertently caused his beloved Licht to suffer a fate worse than death
>All hope is lost while his grimoire turns into something sinister
>Suddenly, Valtos teleports in at the last second
>Valtos knowing how it feels to be a pawn in a grand scheme that fucks him over decides to help out Patry
>He goes up to the demon and gives him a long deep passionate tongue kiss
>It was his master plan to make the demon say "no homo" with his word magic aimed at Patry to cure his homosexuality
>Patry stops having gay thoughts about Licht and then stops despairing so that the Black Clover,TM, is stopped from forming
>Valtos dies immediately after

>still thinks elves' tactics=human tactics
>stating Yami is holding back even though he said he'll go all out to save Charlotte because Charla giving him a hard time.
>is on denial to recognize Charlotte's potential is better than Yami or any top tier captains, even though Yami straight out point himself that he acknowledges her strength long time ago in her weakened state
>must have missed Patolli's statement that she's immensely powerful
>didn't play the mobage that showed us Yami's jobbing along with the support against Charlotte and got mad about it and want to go all out but Charlotte overwhelmed him because the pussy is very strong and clever until Julius stop the fight.
Turn on your fucking brain, dumbass.
Read the mango carefully and do not go argue if you haven't play the BC mobage.

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Any anons got a number on how well bc is doing in China? I wanna btfo redditors and baldy in the future

>Mimosafags
Asta carried her her so she could do literally nothing. She might as well have stayed in one of those empty rooms.

I'm having a bit of trouble picturing this moment since I am farsighted but did Yuno and Asta get stronger versions of their Devil and Spirit transformations?

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I wish that was me

Yea, you can tell because Asta has two fangs now and his mark is bigger and Yuno's mark goes over across his eye.

Thanks user

I've noticed that the reason that Yuno was able to overpower the Elf Spirit from the Reincarnation Magic was most likely due to that Spirit being Licht's unborn baby. It's probably why Yuno was able to maintain his human self (Pretty easy to overpower a fetus), Has such powerful control over magic, in addition to the reason he has a 4-leaf and the comment that Raia made makes so much sense ("both his power as an elf and human have grown") since the baby was also half Human

bilibili - 34 million views, 945K viewers, 593K barrage (number of times played in a large screening room with many viewers I think), 8.1 rating
Iqiyi - got rid of their total viewing numbers last year but should be around the same numbers or higher since it was at 20 million views over a year ago and is bigger than bilibili, 7.4 rating
Youku - also got rid of their viewing numbers but should be over 20 million view at the very least, 9.4 rating

So when will the Heart and Spade Kingdom arcs start?

I think we will get a new devil race and Asta's sword demon, the new Word Devil and the Demon fought by the the first Magic Emperor will be a part of it.

Thanks user but is there a source ?

Based Charlybro

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where is the reincarnated Licht in all of this?

Catatonic on top of the palace

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i love mereoleona but i wish she was actually drawn with some muscles

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>Ladros straight up countered everybody with his absorption of magic
Yeah, just like how Gueldre countered everyone with his permeation magic. Took the captains only a few seconds to figure out that they could still attack him by flinging non-magical objects at him. Ladros is a complete pussy too if you get past his absorption. He almost started crying when Asta managed to stab him with the tip of his sword and barely managed to pull it out. He would lose to Yami, Mereoleona, Nozel, Jack, Charlotte, possibly Rill and most likely Fuego as well since it was stated that he had trouble absorbing spirit level magic. Dorothy might lose depending on whether she can transport Ladros into her world at all. William and Kaiser are probably the only captains he could defeat, at least based on what little we've seen of them so far.

Jai out yet?

Licht wasn't possessed by either the demon that caused him to despair or the thing that appeared in Licht/Asta's grimoire. The despair either summoned the giant demon or turned Licht into it, which left Licht's body behind. So I suppose Patri's soul will turn into another giant demon for Fuego to defeat while William gets his body back. He'd better not turn before he gets to interact with Rades, Valtos and Yami a little bit though.

Is Black Clover decent? I'm looking for a new pop shounen to supplement OP and MHA since I dropped Shokugeki no Stakes.

Sure way to piss off Yamifags

Its not a Pop-shounen, it just gets labeled that because the anime adaptation is trash, the manga is fantastic if you like character driven stories like OP, YYH and Berserk you should enjoy it.

Fucking kekd

Writer says he's writing shonen beserk and our series big bad faggot is skewered on a makeshift altar of spikes. It's pretty good.

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>Let me make friends so I can kill my friends so I can resurrect my friends

The gay is an incurable disease.

Asta ALWAYS HAD 2 FANGS

The theme of black clover is that it's very easy to exploit teen boy puberty homolust and doing so is evil. Instead get swol and swear your heart to a pure maiden.

Do you guys think Asta's demon and that other demon know each other?

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Devil*

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Yes they are very different thing. Dont get mad at your ignorance.

Noelle is easily one of the most well handled characters in the series. You can really see the amount of love and care that goes into her progress and development.
I look forrward to see where she goes.

Even if you think Charlotte is a better tactician Charla has more mana to pour into her attacks and partially broke the curse and still barely managed to draw with Yami. Your mobage is non canon.

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Id read a black clover high school spinoff

Was ronne only introduced 2 chapters ago?

I think he shows up in Rhya's and Patri's flashback

Ayt thanks. Also did he reincarnate? Since liar didnt notice ronnes presence, makes me think he didnt die and was just waiting

Ronnie shown up like 50 chapters ago.
Officially introduced 2 chapters ago.
Who whole point was for him to come out of nowhere because even raja questioned.
>wait...when did ronnie even get here?

Ye I know, so he didnt reincarnate huh? And was just hiding. Also I wonder how theyre gonna beat mr devil since it took licht and original wk to beat him

We dont know if he didn't reincarnate.
He had the tatoos

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That is true, well lets see if he did reincarnate tho the poor schmuck that got body swapped got his soul sent to hell lmao

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Poor boy

A lot of people are saying that now that the demon has appeared the elves are no longer relevant as bad guys, but I don't think that's true. We didn't get meaningful conclusions to any of the Apostle fights except for maybe Rila's, we don't know what Nozel and Yami are doing in the Shadow Palace, we haven't seen what became of Gueldre&Revchi's stealth adventure and we also haven't seen Rades confronting Patri yet and whether the madman actually dug up Julius' corpse or not. In addition to that there's the last remaining Apostle who is a complete mystery so far and also Charla who disappeared after fighting Yami which was quite a while ago. I think we'll reach some sort of a halfway point in the demon fight and then go back to the elves to wrap up everything related to them.

Only bilibili, it has the view count on the black clover page.

>Elder God Demonbane challanges Elder Chad Asta
>"lol u fuckinh manlet... i got infinite infinites to fucking kill you with you fucking fag. im infinute"
>"AAAAAAAAAAA NEVER GIVE UP!!!"
>Asta instantly kills Demonbane by swinging his mighty sword across Demonbane's throat.
>Yami arises from Demonbane's guts and grabs Asta by the head.
>"AAAAAAAAAAA SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!"

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now, is Asta's Sword Demon a special demon? I mean this not-Ryuk demon actually has magic, are there other anti-magic demons or is the only one trapped inside Asta's sword?

>Asta defeats a diamond general in a serious fight
>...
>Yuno wins by default against a captain in a friendly tournament
>OMG YUNO IS CAPTAIN LEVEL

>Asta deflects light beams
>...
>Yuno dodges light beams
>OMG YUNO IS CAPTAIN LEVEL

Why does this happen?

not him.
>Even if you think Charlotte is a better tactician
Facts. She ranked top 3 as a smartest captains
>Charla has more mana to pour into her attacks
Based on her fight with Yami, she only relies on her huge mana pool and strong spells.
The more she pours, the more she wasted a lot of mana and possibly unable to handle a strong mage in her next fight, so she decided to retreat.
jaiminisbox.com/reader/read/black_clover/en/0/170/page/4
Don't forget what the user said that the elves' tactics and humans' are not pretty much comparable
jaiminisbox.com/reader/read/black_clover/en/0/178/page/14

>barely managed to draw with Yami
Her giant thorny can easily be avoided to begin with, it just Yami knowing the situation that he can't abandon the ordinary peeps whose in the range of Charla's spell, so he decided to counter it and got btfo
mangapanda.com/black-clover/169/12

>Charla partially broke the curse
wdym? taking Yami's assumption as a fact?
Human curses has no connections to the elves.
jaiminisbox.com/reader/read/black_clover/en/0/143/page/4
if Charla got exorcised, Charlotte's magic will go back at it's weak state and roses will turn into blue once again unless the curse is broken. A possibility she might not be able to gain an elf boost due to Charla using the original briar magic not the based one or at least Charlotte can use the new spells that Charla used but weaker.

>Mobage is not a canon
Still not confirmed if it is a canon or not
But the QK game was written by Tabata yet there was a scene Yami having a hard time dealing with Charlotte's.

We ranking characters due only on screen time and plot feats, eh?

Learn to read slowly next time

I guess, this means tsun-tsun's potential is hardly getting acknowledge by normies. As i can see outside from Yea Forums, no one able to grasp the basis of her characterization but her having romantic feelings on Yami, that's all. This is so sad and funny at the same time.

Not him and I agree with you, but can you tell me about that QK scene? I haven't played the game.

Because Yuno's cute.
Yami has lost every fight he's been around for and the fandom is still thristing for him.

>Yami has lost every fight he's been around
Wut.

Why would demon bane work against asta?

Yamifags can't just take the fact that Yami is a jobber especially youtubers.
Fuegoleon even jobbed for about 130 chapters and none of the Feugofags ever complain.

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>Patri
>Third Eye
>Charla
>Ratri

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Not him but
Yamis only been around for 2 relevant fights.
He lost to licht (patry)
And kinda tied with charla

There is a demonbane that is evil, bad, etc..

Why would this work against asta?

Yamifags are the reason why I don't watch bc youtubers anymore

>Asta defeats a diamond general in a serious fight

Yuno also defeated a General(lightning boi) although it is a weaker type but a general nonetheless

Literally didn't lose those fights lol. A lost would mean a KO innit?

Just take it that he's jobber.
Thanks to the user who played the mobage and revealed the truth that he's even more worse having no support mage supporting him.

Just checked in but Yamifags are the majority in the western BC fandom and in this thread too, why do you think there's so many Yamchafags

I'm a Yamchafag myself, but I don't cum over everything Yami does or says.

If someone had to save your ass it's a loss.
Gauche saved yamis ass

Ill concede he lost to Patri but he didn't really lose to elf charlotte or the 3rd eye tho

I'm the one who said he kinda tied with charla

>Facts. She ranked top 3 as a smartest captains
Why would Charla be dumber? Droite seemed as smart as gauche.
>curse
Bottom line is her elf counterparts magic is stronger. Yami teased dormant Charlotte about it.

>That devil over there

It's not that charla is dumber but tBata has went on to make a point that elves know jack shit about modern magic

As much as I like the elf arc kinda glad its coming to a close since it went on wayyy too long. So I'm gonna guess Devil is gonna go on the retreat since he's not full power or someshit. Kinda excited for next WK announcement/asking help from other kingdom arc/liberate Diamond arc.

>Bottom line is her elf counterparts magic is stronger. Yami teased dormant Charlotte about it.
It's still Charla who uses Charlotte's original magic in an obsolete form.
>Charla is dumb
>
I already told you elves' and humans' tactics is different, I even provide you the page for you to see. Why it is hard for you to get through that in your mind?

>As much as I like the elf arc kinda glad its coming to a close since it went on wayyy too long.
t. newfags on their first long weekly battle shounen arc

I mean kinda? I normally don't read shounen. BC is probably the one shounen I didn't drop from fatigue.

They cut his fucking shirt

With that he's probably going to push their shit in next chapter

Nah, Asta will probably lose black form since this is his 3rd transformation of the day and Yuno will get ass fucked without Asta's support. These niggas couldn't even touch licht how are they gonna fight the devil

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Asta's using more and more of his black form though

so what I'm thinking. Devil-kun wipes them. uses his word power to show them this pear, This brings out Astas demon for a moment which slaps devil-kun around before licht wakes them up or manages to land a pot shot

Mimosa reset the count with her healing and Asta is learning how to control black mode more efficiently

>I already told you
You haven't. That was my first reply

Eh, theres still a limit on the black form but yeah no contesr devil will beat the duo, he's not even taking the fight seriously and only casting one or two spells at a time

Lmao, sorry bruh.
I forgot to write 'see this'
I answered him along with yours.

I imagine the Anti-magic devil is one of a kind. Probably all devils have different OP magic.

Now how Anti-magic devil relates to his fellow devils, that's a complete mystery right now.

Devil is just another form of elf it seems

Why are elves so fucking evil?

Just typical dark elves. Odds are they were enslaved long ago before becoming friends with humanity after they turned

>185884480
To keep us away from their women

Is that what some people are getting from this?
I don't think they're directly related at all.

Devils are just another race entirely but they can't exist in the real world without some kind of host body.
I think any body can become a devil, human, elf or otherwise.

The resurrection spell itself and the thing Veto did before just are devil magics rather than elf magic, so that's why the elves seem to be turning into demons/devils as they use them. If Asta wasn't so retarded, the devil in his book probably woulda had his body by now and be just as crazy.

Wasnt it revealed 5 leaf clovers are just 4 leaf grimoires corrupted? Astas grimoire is probably first wks or licht

That's amazing on both sides of the fence. Amazing that I got it right, and amazing that you haven't dropped BC despite it not being your cup of tea.

It's a demon and licht should be able to beat the demon too.

I have a feeling William will beat the devil while working with licht

I actually like BC tho hence why Im still reading it

Clearly Licht since Patri recognizes it and it stores Licht's swords

Just said first wk because tabata likes muh subversion also doesnt my nigga licht still have his grimoire or was he using all those fancy magic without one?

>When you realize that Black Clover is more progressive and has better female characters than the supposed "thinking men's shounen" that are MHA and PNL

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Wats pnl?

I don't think anyone in the history of ever has referred to either of those as "thinking men's shounen".

>People not realizing Tabata's master plan

The moment the Elves are defeated the Diamond Kingdom attacks under the guise of "suppressing the elves that wish to destroy humanity" and they ravage and take over the kingdom.So that we end up with the Black Bulls in the position of the ones who were unfairly brutalized and coming full circle

Pandora nightly lunch
It's a slice of life romance

Promised NeverLand

Asta's devil is such an asshole. Stole the other devils host. Now he has to wait 500 years to get another shot. lmao

t.brainlet
Diamond will attack just because then the bulls go trojan horse mode with a elite group of others squad members included to beat down the hq of diamond since the main force of the army is being held back by clover.

Thats a shounen? It any good?

Other way around.
Demons are elves. Devils are just devils.

it's confusing. It seems like that's happening to Patri's, but there's also the weirdness about the other devil.
For simplicity, I'm gonna call them Wevil (Word Devil) and Amvil (Anti-Magic Devil).

So, seems like way back when this all went down, Wevil was trying to be brought into the human world in flesh, but Licht and first Magic Emperor got in the way. Not sure if Amvil even was around at this point. Then the huge elf erradication shit happened, though I don't know if we've seen whether that was done by Wevil or Amvil, and while Patri was fucking dying Wevil saw him and was like "Yeh, okay, that one".
Wevil resurrected Patri into a body like Licht's and gave him the 4 leaf grimoire somehow. From there, everything Patri did was actually Wevil's plan and he just twisted Patri's mind. Now he's corrupting Patri and seems like he's going to take his body and grimoire or something like that?

Meanwhile, Licht's grimoire somehow wound up wiht Amvil in it. And the demon that the first Magic Emperor defeated may or may not be another devil, but presumably it is since Amvil and Wevil look nothing like the depictions of that demon.

>Then the huge elf erradication shit happened, though I don't know if we've seen whether that was done by Wevil or Amvil
Wevil did that. He admitted it himself this chapter. Amvil was AFTER Licht fell into despair.

I would be an asshole too if I had to inhabit a manlet.

Neither Licht or the word devil have grimoires right now

I'm wondering how Wevil has been able to do anything without a physical body this whole time. Like, what's the point if he can nuke a race and revive dead people.
Why is it so hard for him to have a physical body after all that?

Also, Licht died at that event, so how the fuck did Amvil get into the picture at all?

Well he can still possess physical bodies. Ronne and Baval.
I don't think he needs Patri's body for himself. He might be creating a new friend.

Alright so this mother fucker has the word of God power

where do we go from here?

You are both brainlets. Not only would it be creatively bankrupt to have two invasions back to back, but Diamond was already established as an arc about Mars attempting to change the kingdom from within back when Asta promised to go help him if he's ever in trouble. Hell, it's debatable whether Diamond even has the forces to seriously challenge Clover considering how poorly they've performed so far. Chances are they don't even know what's going on since Clover has some kind of counter-intelligence going on based on Golden Dawn busting Spade spies.

Diamond is going to be about Asta receiving some kind of a message from Mars where he asks for help, so Asta takes the Bulls to Diamond in their brand new mobile base. The focus is going to be on Mars' coup, with the Bulls having to lay low while they free Mars' allies from prison, sabotage Morris' research facilities and sneak into the castle at night to gather information. The end of the arc will then culminate in a civil war during which we learn Morris was trying to use the magic stones to enhance Diamond's knights and grimoires so that a demon that he's working with would be able to create more despair grimoires. This ties the arc into the larger conflict with the demons while giving the kingdom itself the focus it deserves and without being too similar to the elf invasion.

source: big brain

Because demons need a physical body to move in the 3rd dimension, everyone but 4 leaves are too weak to sustain him.
Amvil is likely something else, they are 2 different races.
He hasn't said 'die' yet but asta and yuno survive the crushing words on pure will power so it's not that bad.
Greek/Roman god powers and other mythology powers will happen, the royals that killed the elves will have those powers, maybe angels will appear too with holy mana/magic.

>devil that came out of nowhere in the story and solved the mystery on who hurt the elves almost instantly is going to be taken down or hurt badly by the 2 mc's that are now going to be a clear cut in power above the rest.

This was supposed to be the MHA killer? Not to mention i forgot julius died in this arc. Idr how long ago now.

To another magic?
It doesnt have to always be stronger magic.
I fucking hate power scale fags.

Word of editor power

...

>came out of nowhere
Speedreader

I'm sure we are going to see the both demons interact.

>Amvil is likely something else, they are 2 different races.
Nah, Wevil outright recognizes Asta's black form as being from another devil. He knows Amvil is one of his kind and that's why he's reacting. He probably doesn't know Amvil personally though.

We've already been introduced to dwarves and devils as two new races this arc. I wonder which tree we'll end up going down from here: D&D rules where there's tons of other shit like dragonkin or Tolkein rules where we only got a few more races.

Devils*

DAEMONS

The only demon we saw was in the first chapter.

Oh this guy is going to be beat by Yuno getting rid of the air around him making him unable to talk and Asta ramming it up his ass

Hes not going to be beat at all.
Hes gun a fuck off and after he corrupts patry.
Demon patry will be the final boss.

Nah because William is in there and this isn't what Patri wants

It's probably easier to separate the kanji
Chapter 1 had the God of magic. The fifth leaf has the evil spirits

>What patri wants.
I dont think that's a deciding factor

Explain the demon and akuma words then.

Where are the Mimosa lewds?

I don't know what you are asking.
The correct translation is that devils are the wevil and anvil.
Demon is the thing that the first wizard king killed

I regret to inform you.but this is a tsun manga

axed in 2 years

in two years
>>axed in 2 years

So have you just given up on "axe soon" baldy?

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Sally is the exception not the rule.

I'm a real nigga but I ain't black

>Came out of nowhere.
Is your brain okay?

500 for noll

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Why do you call her Noll?

It's a meme. Just go with it.

did asta always have a horn in black mode or is that new.

Always had a horn.

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