What are some of your legitimate criticisms with Kill La Kill?
It would be naive to say anything is perfect, but I haven't found any other anime that has come close to the level of enthusiasm I have for this show (yes, I know it's a mainstream pleb anime). The animation quality, the sudden changes in artstyle for emotional effect, the design of the individual characters (along with their Japanese vocal performances), in conjunction with the exhilarating music makes it more enjoyable/motivating than anything else I have seen.
Yes, I know this is basically Fan-Service: The Anime, but you know what? It seems like it's actually trying to tell a story (unlike things such as Ikkitousen) and I'm not ashamed to admit that I really like sexy characters (even if it's a lowbrow interest). Fan service is important to me on a deeper level even if that means I'm some weirdo for saying so. It must be some deeply rooted cultural thing for me, but the exclusion of violence or fan-service makes the work feel less sincere/personal because it's as though the creator is censoring the range of what they want to say in order to appeal to a wider audience.
To me, the inclusion of fan-service is like a nod from the creator: "Yes, we know you want to see this. We do too. It's okay, you are among friends."
This one is purely subjective, but to me the worst part of it is the episodes between 4 and 8. Mediocre sound design, mediocre plot in those episodes. Animation remains top tier throughout, even though I wish it was more consistent.
I wish Ragyo, as the true villain, was more involved with the story rather than seeming like she was out of left field. Compare with bossu from Part 5.
I'm not a fan of episode 7. I know why it's there, but that kind of episode is always too corny for me. Also production wasn't as good during the reverse Godrobe battle. That's about it.
Jace King
I can't think of much objectively wrong that sticks out, but personally I thought the last half felt a little wobbly and sort of out of left field. I was also never all that huge on Ryuko as a character, and the fanservice is too obnoxious for my tastes.
But it was still overall good, and I'll admit most of my bias is because I can't help but see it as strongly mirroring Gurren Lagann, which I hold in much higher regards.
Jaxon Thompson
>It would be naive to say anything is perfect Any more perfect and it would be fucking uncanny. KLK is maybe the best, most hype and fun show ever. And it's amazing again on each and every rewatch. Shit's just way too good.
I just wish Ryuko fought more while wearing regular non-synchronized Senketsu, its a really nice looking design.
Eli Turner
>don't lose your way >ryuko loses her way twice
Landon Hughes
I love the show, it's one of my all-time favorites. I don't understand why anons are so hung up on the fan service. My brain actually stopped recognizing it as such after a while. The kamui's were simply 'what the powerful fighters fought in'. I legitimately enjoy this show for its plot and characters.
However, I didn't like the final episode. I fell Satsuki got cheated out of a proper ending. I hate that she was relegated to waiting on the sidelines in the final fight after all she suffered. I also feel Junketsu got short changed, and deserved a redemption arc. This would also allow Satsuki more personal growth.
You've great taste. Episodes 17 and 22 are my favorites for good reason.
Doesn't seem too bad if the trailers and site are to be believed. It's not going to be a competitive fighting game, but it'll be a fun new story. Kinda like Raging Blast.
Dylan Bell
I'm watching all of Ikkitousen right now, and having fun with it. Thanks for the cop-Hakufu
Ryan Gonzalez
Yeah, that's a great way to look at it. Thanks for the positivity.
Sebastian Scott
Season 1 of Ikkitousen has some legitimately interesting plot threads and psychological fetishes. Nearly all of that is eschewed for soulless shonen storylines in seasons 2, 3, and 4.
This anime is great because even with a plot so fucking idiotic it managed to keep me entertained and interested enough to watch the whole damn thing in two days
Robert Sanders
stopped reading after edge clown showed up
Carter Ortiz
>What are some of your legitimate criticisms with Kill La Kill?
Probably the most over hyped shonen shit ever. It's the same shit as naruto. Its got memorable character designs, but its still more or less a trashy shonen manga with a few good cotes of paint on it. Also its other great selling point is that it's only 24 some episodes long not 20,000 chapters.
It's honestly all of Yea Forums that does that. Look at any board such as Yea Forums.
Henry Ward
I think it's more common with Yea Forums and Yea Forums. /tg/ at least explains why something is shitty, even if they're wrong. Hell, /fit/ is even more bearable than Yea Forums's collective consciousness.
Anthony Hernandez
>the exclusion of violence or fan-service makes the work feel less sincere/personal because it's as though the creator is censoring the range of what they want to say in order to appeal to a wider audience The rest of your post made sense, but what on earth are these mental gymnastics?
I only watched the first couple episodes before dropping it but I would say the entire premise is disinteresting.
Jackson James
The story was kindof cool but I felt like it was a never ending montage of fanservice and explosions, critically admirable but devoid of artistic passion, similar to american media. I didn't feel like I actually cared about any of the characters at all by the end of it. Also the dialogue is awful, it has the same sort of feel as Bobobo except not funny.
Thomas Reyes
>The rest of your post made sense, but what on earth are these mental gymnastics? If someone wants to write a more sincere/personal story, they wouldn't consciously omit things for the sake of appealing to a broader audience. Violence and fan-service are the two most often removed aspects of a work and it comes across like the author was more interested in money rather than having fun and entertaining the audience (or telling a better story).
that's a fucking retarded question, think of a food that you don't like and expound on your logic that leads you to not liking it
Jaxson Hill
Is this bait? Have you not heard of America?
Ayden Smith
I don't see how it's a bad question. You can say you don't like cheetos and say you prefer some other snack product or that you don't like snacking at all.
I'm not necessarily looking for an apples to apples comparison, I'm just trying to learn what a person who dislikes a certain thing prefers instead (or why they may actually dislike the original thing in the first place).
Jeremiah Ward
Not liking KLK is like saying you don't like anime.
what the fuck are you talking about, hollywood is all about tits and booms, america is the opposite of what you're talking about if your point is that shit gets censored on toonami then who cares cause it's shit geared at kids anyway
Brody Rivera
>Hollywood You should Google about how many western Hollywood movies are adjusted to maintain a PG-13 rating instead of an R.
I don't mind educating you but it's hard to take you seriously when you are so seething.
Jackson King
asking him what he likes instead is reasonable but asking him to explain why he doesn't like what you like is ridiculous, you want to sound like you're refuting him so you can feel self assured
Lucas Williams
>you want to sound like you're refuting him so you can feel self assured I can promise you that's not what I'm trying to do.
If you don't like something, it's not inconceivable to point out the things about it that turn you away.
My second question following that, would be to learn what they like instead.
The line of reasoning is as follows: "I don't really like eating sugar because it makes me irritable and anxious. An example of what I prefer would be sugarfree coffee drinks, soft drinks, or teas."
Jaxson Sanders
fine, that's true, but your original point was that fanservice makes it more artistically sincere. "fan-service" is exactly what it says, going out of your way to put in sexual content for the audience, there's not a shred of artistic integrity in it. the reason Hollywood probably has to tone down so much is because their writers and directors are so neck deep in debauchery all the time that they perceive it as normal, and then remember after the cocaine wears off that in order to make shekels they have to take out the tits and fuckwords
Adam Garcia
a better metaphor for this situation would be him saying "I don't like the taste of sugar" and you asking him to explain
Daniel Moore
The show tries to have its cake and eat it too. It starts out as this uneven slapstick comedy with the occasional well-directed scene. The plot is straight up shounen, with maybe the Fight Club episode rising above that. Around episode 16, the show goes for the plot twist, and then you see them trying to recapture the magic of Gurren Lagann, with everything scaling up to unbelievable amounts. Honestly, if you have never seen TTGL, I won't blame you for liking all this, but let's face it, Kill la Kill didn't do nearly enough to separate it from TTGL or even other battle shounen.
The characterization is also weak. Ryuko is just not convincing when she's angry or when she turns on her friends or in any angsty situation for that matter. It reminds me of how, as kids, we would re-enact episodes of Power Rangers and other shows from that era. It's that level of contrived. Most of the characters in this show are at that level of contrivance.
And Imaishi isn't just some ten year old in a basement, he's like an auteur of some sort. Hes the reason people paid attention to TRIGGER. This man did key animation on Neon Genesis Evangelion and Fooly Cooly. He directed Gurren Lagann. You'd think, after all that time at Gainax, he would have a grasp on what it means to make something original and meaningful.
And I realized all this on a rewatch of Kill la Kill. Clearly there's something there, I won't deny that, but the spell is broken for me. Too many deep flaws, I could keep on going about this show.
Jeremiah Rogers
Its Sonic Adventure 2.
Josiah Lewis
>the reason Hollywood probably has to tone down so much is because their writers and directors are so neck deep in debauchery all the time that they perceive it as normal That's not correct. They keep things PG-13 because theaters refuse to admit people who are under 17 to R movies and also because families feel unmotivated to watch an R rated film together. There are some statistics on Google on just how damning the R rating is for a film's ticket sales and it's astonishing.
>fine, that's true, but your original point was that fanservice makes it more artistically sincere I suppose my wording was unclear/misleading and that's definitely my mistake.
What I mean by "fan service makes something feel more personal" is that it sometimes feels like a nod to the audience like "We know you want to see this, it's okay, we do too." There are definitely some situations where there has been fan-service that has been included at the expense of the work's integrity for the sake of profit (such as in the case of something like Ikktousen). I suppose what I'm trying to state is that the explicit exclusion of all violence and all fan-service causes the entertainment to feel really sterile and joyless in the same way the Marvel films feel. No sense of anything mature or personal since those topics are off-limits.
You can ask me to clarify again since I know my explanation so far hasn't been very lucid and I apologize.
Isaiah Brooks
Eh, somewhat.
I would say it's more like him saying "I don't like the taste of sugar" and me saying "Explain, but also, what do you eat instead?"
You can say something like "Sugar makes me irritable or anxious" followed by "I prefer sugarfree products."
Nolan Walker
It's by no means perfect, but it's one of my favorite anime series. I just love the manic energy of it. This
Benjamin Rogers
I'm going to be honest in saying that a big reason why I didn't like TTGL is that Yoko was hyped to be this fan-service character and ended up being the least likable wet blanket I have ever seen in an anime. Also, the fan-service for her was sparse and generally underwhelming.
Yes, I know that fan-service != storytelling, but that's honestly something I was hoping for when I saw the initial fan-servicey shots of Yoko in the first episode and I've been very sour about it. You're allowed to say I'm being ridiculous. That's fine.
Sebastian Jenkins
As someone who considers Gurren Lagann to be one of the best anime of all time I think the Kill la Kill comparison is a bit unfair to both shows. I watched Kill la Kill almost immediately after Gurren Lagann and while both follow a similar plot structure I got completely different things from both. Gurren Lagann is written more like an epic with a outward focus while Kill la Kill feels like a Tarantino film with a more narrow scope. The only reason I rank Gurren Lagann higher is simply due to preference and I think that's how it is for other Yea Forumsnons too even though most don’t want to admit it.
Gabriel Reed
I mean, there's not much for us to say. We're coming from two totally different perspectives, and I can at least respect your honesty. What I will say is that one day, fanservice might not mean as much to you as it does now.
Nathan Phillips
>watching TTGL for Yoko tits this is your first mistake
Colton Rivera
>I could keep on going about this show. I'm honestly interested to hear more from you on this because it's intriguing. I'm assuming if you had to recommend something you like in-place of KLK, it would be TTGL right?
John Clark
>What I will say is that one day, fanservice might not mean as much to you as it does now. I thought that for a while, then some time passed, and I still appreciate the simple pleasure of seeing a sexy character.
You're correct that I made a mistake, but if you weren't around for the initial release of TTGL, there was a flood of Yoko fanart as far as the eye could see. She was hyped more than any other character that came before her.
The skimpy suits weren't even nice looking, gross even, but that's subjective It's an unapologetic 1:1 copy of the TTGL plot twist Just like with TTGL, the plot twist and the second half were dreadful I liked Ryuko's original clothes way more >It seems like it's actually trying to tell a story ???
>It's an unapologetic 1:1 copy of the TTGL plot twist How? >Just like with TTGL, the plot twist and the second half were dreadful Second half of TTGL was what made the show great you absolute pleb. Although I agree that KLK ended on a super weak note.
Blake Rogers
Subtlety is important, the fanservice just becomes tedious if they're always wearing simple clothing
Anthony Sanchez
*skimpy
Dylan Scott
My only complaint is it didn't go on for hundreds of episodes. I could've watched Ryuko vs. the sports clubs forever. Or seen the drama CDs animated. Or explore more of the Elite Four's pasts from the short story. Or what they did the month Satsuki was missing. I love the setting and characters so, so much.
I EJACULATED TO RYUKO MATOI BECAUSE OF THIS THREAD
William Lee
There's zero stakes to anything. The loser of a fight just gets their clothes ripped off. Heck they don't even seem to feel pain, while in their suits. That is not how you write an action show. There's no purpose to any fight. Also anytime Mako or her family opened their mouth it was like getting my teeth pulled out.
Ian Thompson
>How? BAD GUY IS IN ANOTHER CASTLE, I WAS JUST TRYNA HELP >Second half of TTGL was what made the show great you absolute pleb absolute kinopeak of the show was aniki ja nai. Simon accepting he's not his bro, but that's ok cause he can do the thing. Second half was him ditching his own self, and just becoming a bad Kamina impersonator.
>Second half was him ditching his own self, and just becoming a bad Kamina impersonator. You clearly were watching it while heavily brain damaged if this is what you took away from it.
Nathan Stewart
It was amazing, although I admit that I started watching it with too much prejudice which in turn lowered my initial enjoyment of it. I still ended up having a blast, of course, and I did learn a valuable lesson from the experience,
>The characterization is also weak. Ryuko is just not convincing when she's angry or when she turns on her friends or in any angsty situation for that matter Yeah, it's not like her mother -literally- threw her into the trash, as an infant, after experimenting on her and seemingly getting unsatisfactory results. Let's not also forget that she found out that she was a hybrid "monster" made with the intention of kill humanity, but repurposed by her father as a tool to save Earth without him ever telling her that. Nothing better than to find all that out as you're trying to avenge the death of your father.
You're absolutely right, she had no reason to act the way she did...
Michael Hernandez
alright, so what happened then? cause that's what it looked liked to me
Cameron Thomas
>we know you want to see this, it's okay, we do too that's the opposite of artistic integrity, that's the definition of selling out. there should be no "we know you want to see this" at all in the process, the artist should only consider what they want themselves. if they truly think their art is enhanced by degeneracy then so be it
Parker Young
Who gives a shit? Are you from fucking Trigger? No? Then shut the fuck up and go do something else you fucking sperg.
Josiah Adams
That underboob/almost nipple slip.
James Anderson
KLK suffers hard because it has absolutely no focus, especially suffering in comparison to being a direct spiritual successor to TTGL, which had an amazing, direct, simple, and focused plot.
My main gripe is the lack of any stakes whatsoever. Mako and her family heavily clash with the show's tone in the later seasons since they have the power of comedic relief plot armor and are immune to anything actually bad happening to them. The show seems completely torn between a serious tone and comedic relief and never knows where to go with it in later episodes. Sure the outfit dies at the end but I didn't feel much because it happened right at the very end and he wasn't a super interesting character, basically existed only to mentor Ryuko and had no backstory of his own.
I also think the writing of Satsuki is by far the biggest mistake in the show. She was a strong and imposing villain and a great rival and foil to Ryuko but literally OUT OF NOWHERE as soon as she reveals she isn't on Ragyo's side all the sudden she's all buddy-buddy with Ryuko despite having been established to have very conflicting ideals basically through an apology to Ryuko, and all of her ideals she was preaching about the whole time were JUST PRETEND BRO. This is an absolutely retarded asspull and the show would have been infinitely better.
I generally have a lot of complaints about this show just because it had so much potential and can be genuinely amazing at times but it really feels like the writing was just the writers making shit up as they went rather than actually focusing on a concise plot.
I would fix the show by:
>killing off Mako about halfway through, leaving her dumbass family out of the equation as well >removing the school rivalry arc entirely. >Making Satsuki remain a rival to Ryuko even after turning on Ragyo. They temporarily work together to beat Ragyo but the final episode is now a final fight between Satsuki and Ryuko (a la Devil May Cry 3).
Main point that got chopped up was I feel like Satsuki's heel face turn from being a villain made 0 sense. She was established to have ideals that conflicted directly with Ryuko's for the entire show, leave her turning on Ragyo and fighting with Ryuko in but they should have still been rivals. There was absolutely no reason or build up at all towards making them buddy-buddy during the last arc of the show.
kill la kill starts out strong and is animated well but later it kind of gets dumb and is only saved by good animation and also the music is terrible
Jason Butler
Not sure if its legitimate but I thought that the whole "life fibers were aliens" thing was too silly even for the show. I say this as someone who loves aliens and sci-fi
Grayson Scott
brutal falloff of animation quality in the latter half of the show really shines through
The first episodes were some of the best animation I've seen in the last decade, but near the end the shortcuts start really showing through
That and 2 of the 4 Honnoji minibosses sucked Dog and Monkey were both terrible.
Lucas Carter
>What are some of your legitimate criticisms with Kill La Kill? Animation is a bit low quality in some scenes, and I don't mean the thematic choices like Nui's 2D sprite movement. Stretched faces and bad angles and overall shitty anatomy. Other than that it's pretty much perfect.
We could all do without Episode 4, but I think "episode 4" is a deliberate inside joke at this point. It kind of started with TTLG's infamous episode 4.
Jaxson Phillips
Not a genuine criticism since it wouldn’t have made much sense but I wanted Nui to join the good guys at the end because she is a CUTE! Serious criticism is that Satsuki could have had a larger role at the end, her and Ryuko taking down Ragyo together would have been more satisfying imo.
There were a few dropped plot points, like the life fiber bullet, and that one time ryuko turns into a giant monster (which is promptly never mentioned again).
Nui didn't have a fitting end, but that's just a personal preference.
The final fight in general was a bit lackluster, especially considering the epic free-for-all which went before it.
>all of her ideals she was preaching about the whole time were JUST PRETEND BRO.
not really, Satsuki saw that she failed in her plans because she imitated her mothers methods, basically trying to use social darwinism, to defeat her, thats why she changed her mind in that respect, Satsukis goals were always the opposite of Ragyo and thats plausible
I largely agree with your criticism. Ryuko's motives for revenge felt rather force from the get-go, considering that she didn't hold much regard for her father but was magically willing to die to avenge him in episode 1. It's possible the script was being rewritten week-by-week.
About the cake and eating it, the show tries to walk a very thin line between embracing shonen tropes and mocking them explicitly, but does so poorly, failing to commit to either side of the coin. I found that annoying too.
KLK is more phenomenal than you even imagine. Besides the amazing story and visuals the animation is ascension level good. The documentary touches on some of these subjects of just how much thought goes into it, but you could unironically do a frame by frame analysts of the show and have textbooks to talk about. Some subtleties and techniques that really shows the skills of the animators under that roof during production.
Julian Taylor
Yo anybody knows where I can watch it in a really good quality? I've looked some places there's a lot of relatively low quality versions.
If you can hook me up I'll doodle you a cute ryuko. Hell I'll throw in a mako.
Angel Murphy
Just ask your Internet service provider for a plan that allows high quality anime.
Ryan Anderson
Something tells me if I really tried this my internet will slow to a crawl.
Adam Perez
>the life fiber bullet Are people seriously still stuck on this? It was never a plot point. It's there for the drama of Mikisugi being unable to go through with shooting Ryuko and a fake out when she's saved by Mako instead. And they had a whole episode about how she was traumatized by turning into a giant monster, and then a whole arc later where she freaked the fuck out about being a BAKEMONO for real.
Jaxon Sanders
This is kinda subjective,but it didn't explore its plotpoints I found interesting(Like Tsumugo's sister fucking dying due to Soroi being a dumbass and forgetting that most people can't handle 40% suits) and it focused instead on the boring aspects,like Mikisugi bordeline wanting to bang Ryuko 24/7 in the earlier episodes.Also as most others said,there' baely any tension.I wanted to see what would happen after Ryuko ripped Juuketsu from her bady since it was mentioned there was a real chance she could die,but in the end nothing happened.
Julian White
the treatment of nudist beach really brought it down for me, they were ultra fucking useless despite all the foreshadowing on the early episodes
Why is Ryuko so perfect feminine and cute and Satsuki so pathetic feminist and uncute?
Jayden Gomez
This
Oliver Lopez
I liked it a lot I'm sure there's a lot to dissect or criticize but as long as Imaishi keeps making fucky-wucky loud and badly animated anime I'll be happy. Much better and interesting than .hack ripoff SAO getting a 4th season and another spinoff and "lol u don't get it it's a parody!!1" isekai's that play is straight for "irony."
Gabriel Rivera
Coming directly from a TTGL rewatch, I dropped this hard after only a few episodes. Fucking ADD trash.
Hunter Mitchell
I hated how it Satsuki turned out to not be evil, because her actual plan was so goddamn idiotic that it completely ruins her character for me. >hurr my mother is such a piece of shit > Because of this I'm going to help her take over the world, establish a Draconian regime and in the process murder, torture, and ruin the lives of countless people including innocents, thus preserving the cycle of anger and resentment that created me, all so that I can kill her myself at her happiest moment for my own gratification >only then will my murderboner be pleased >surely nothing can go wrong with this plan >let's not even bother with a backup because I'm so perfect and flawless just like my plan It's fucking mind-boggling. At that point I'd rather have had had her actually believe in Ragyo's horseshit and do a face turn in the last minute once she realizes how insane she actually was. Because as is I lose all the respect I had for the character because she's such a fucking moron.
I don't remember Satsuki's regime outright murdering anyone, even when they conquered Kaneo's turf they weren't murdering folks
Lincoln Rodriguez
The beginning and end were kinda okay. The middlish was the peak for me so it wasn't as good as it could be. Also I almost dropped it in the beginning because I was bored for a few episodes.
Zachary Turner
>To me, the inclusion of fan-service is like a nod from the creator: "Yes, we know you want to see this. We do too. It's okay, you are among friends." based
Easton Hughes
Her regime already threw a huge chunk of Japan into a shithole that would make Brazil blush, thinking that and her rampage through the rest of Japan didn't kill tons of people would be a Punisher-tier handwave. Also, I'm pretty sure they killed the guy that tried to steal an outfit in the first episode.
Mason Parker
I would say that I don't like the artstyle or care about the characters, and it's the anime that made me realise that I don't like Imaishi's style of directing.
Jeremiah Campbell
Man some lasterk art is always nice!
Aiden Bailey
I don't mind that he draws the same face and body on each and every girl cause it's a really nice face and an even nicer body.
Parker Hughes
Yes Yea Forums is a safe board but nipples and such can be shown according to rules as long as the image they are from is from legit anime/manga. Spoiler it if you are not sure.
Brayden Adams
the beginning and very end are good, but they REALLY have problems pacing and setting proper story arcs
the last time they properly paced anything, they had been a different fucking studio
Grayson Bailey
I think his same face issue is far below many other artists. All he draws even if nude is easily recognizable as a certain character. If we look at Arina Tanemaru (I think that was her name), Akira Toriyama or Tony Taka, those guys are much bigger offenders in this regard.
Nathan Walker
The ending is weaker than its contemporaries and the OVA that had a bunch of cut content and a much better ending came out like six months later
Asher Barnes
>Mother is a monster super-human no one has the power or tools to stop. She's just too strong and conniving. >I am only in a position to do something thanks to pure chance of being born under her, and being given control of a key component in the plan to destroy everyone so long as I act loyal. >If we fail, everyone dies. Everyone. >Mother's methods were brutal, but completely and wildly successful. I will use them against her. The stakes are too high to try anything remotely risky. >If we fail, everyone is permanently fucked because we are the only ones in a position to do anything to the OLF and Junketsu. Even if we detonate this bitch with a stadium sized bomb we can only pray its enough to delay the end of the world. It would be inevitable at that point.
What was she supposed to do shitposting-kun? Do something that jeopardized her control over the literal key to starting the cocoon seed? Use tactics that others had tried and failed to stop her mother with before? People couldn't even stop her from being raped by the woman, why would she have ever believed anyone else could stop her from doing anything? The only reason she had any room for faith in humanity whatsoever was when Ryuko proved her wrong about Mako being irredeemable after falling into greed.
And she still partially succeeded. She delayed the end of the world. After which It took a month of introspection to work out that following her mother's footsteps, what she had been raised to do her whole life in the shadow of complete success via "ends justify the means", was not the way to win.
Outfit guy is on the ship when they are preparing to charge the gates. Its unknown if people actually died. But if they did, again, why should she have cared about any damage especially to population given the stakes? >We win, the world hasn't ended. We can rebuild. >We fail, well, who cares anymore. It's over.
Christian Jones
>Mikisugi bordeline wanting to bang Ryuko 24/7 in the earlier episodes >in the earlier episodes Where do you think the new Promare guy came from exactly? >inb4 Kamina No, it's not Kamina.
>Her regime already threw a huge chunk of Japan into a shithole that would make Brazil blush, You might want to watch the show again. The conflicts were strictly limited to the schools (Osaka aside, but that was Takarada's fault). In the later arc the life fibers in the clothes of the adults made them apathetic to the conflinct between the students and COVERS. >thinking that and her rampage through the rest of Japan didn't kill tons of people would be a Punisher-tier handwave. They're just teenagers squabbling. Nobody died, not even the guy in the first episode (the first subs had a mistranslation fixed in the Whynot release). I don't think you understood the series.
Caleb Green
I have a hard time of coming up with any meaningful criticism for KLK. I've heard plenty of negatives that at the time which I heard them sounded reasonable, but honestly I can't recall or list any of them. To me Kill la Kill holds a special place in my heart for sentimental reasons, (when it came out I'd only watched ~20 animes on my own volition before) but even now, years later I've found even more reasons to love the show. For example, a while ago I began studying film theory with focus on editing, and holy fucking shit I adore this even more now that I have even a little understanding of the so called technical side of things. I mean just the Gamagori segment in the beginning of the first episode still blows my mind, and the series just keeps amping it up after that. Also, I like you OP just for making this thread, you're alright by me (no homo you faggot)
tl;rd Drunken ESL rambling how fucking great Kill la Kill is.
Dylan Bell
Mikisugi did bang Ryuko in the manga tho.
Liam Russell
Bullshit.
Eli Cruz
BS also the manga was super short, wish it would have been longer, liked the art.
>Use tactics that others had tried and failed to stop her mother with before? >tries her own tactics and still fails miserably Sasuga Satsuki
>And she still partially succeeded She didn't do shit, the only reason everything worked out was because of outside factors she actively tried to squash.
>there should be no "we know you want to see this" at all in the process That's irrelevant as long >it's okay, we do too." is the case >that in order to make shekels they have to take out the tits and fuckwords You don't seriously believe this do you? US media is far more sexual and in certain cases more disgusting and debauched compared to Japanese media, and it still sells like hot cakes. Just consider how they don't hesitate to show people fucking at all in the US, having watched house of cards recently i am appalled as to how much fucking there was, badly acted fucking at that, and it isn't even relevant to the story it's the literal equivalent to a pantyshot. How is that not a detriment opposed to panty-shots and other fanservicy stuff?
Cooper Murphy
Junketsu was supposed to be the Kamui that started the cocoon seed (Ragyo's Junketsu form, "you should not have brought that here Satsuki."). She broke its ability to do that by fucking it up with chemical storage forcing Ragyo to make Shinra Koketsu. The festival was supposed to be ground zero where the cocoon should have started (it did eventually but still), which is why the sky yarn tried to start there at Ragyo's call and the school had the massive radio-satellite uplink for the giant REVOCS sat that was to amplify the signal. That first one was broken by the demo charges set up, (the second was built by covers labor to replace it which was also destroyed forcing the space jump) and she had Houka neutralize the fibers on site to stem the covers ability to spread the weave.
Ragyo survived and Satsuki's army was forced to flee to Nudist beach for safety, but it still bought humanity time to regroup and organize. Each school in the Honnouji network had become a bastion of defense against the spread in Japan. And indirectly it let them win by forcing Ragyo to sit back on her laurels in a point she hadn't planned for, and fuck up thanks to her own hubris.
