Why hasnt there been a single good anime about realities of war? It goes without saying that every other genre them in spades while anime and manga only has LoGH which itself isnt about war itself.
You might call Eva and numerous mecha shows a good depiction about war except is isnt. The reason is that Japanese media promotes concept of heroics and heroes which goes against the "realities" of war. Hell, this is where LoGH comes out incredibly short with multiple "heroes" that shape the course of war, peace and story. Only Girls last tour shows the brutal life under constant need and futility of trying to change things, however its only moe and lacks the sheer violence of war.
For a nation who got completely eviscerated by war they hardly import it with their biggest media industry. I feel like Nips cant write a war story where main character doesnt have an impact or power to change things, just to go along and survive. >inb4 thinlyveiled rec thread
Watch at least 300 anime before posting. There are plenty of anime films which portray what you ask for.
Michael Watson
>Why hasn't there been a single good anime about realities of war? Because war sucks? Watching a anime about a person stuck in a fighting hole while his friends get blown to smithereens by Arti isn't exactly fun. War also isn't fast paced like anime fights, i'd be like watching 11 episodes of filler for 1 battle episode, plus unlike anime battles in real life don't really "get won" they are just fighting, until neither party wants to fight it anymore, no grand victory.
A lot of stuff set in the Meiji period settings can be considered a post-war story as the country basically just went through a civil war. It's the closest historical settings Japan have to represent a morally ambiguous war-like settings where no one really felt like they are fighting against complete bad guys/evil regime like typical American WW2 stuff. It's a period where there was the clash of culture(Western vs Traditional Japan), the dying concept of bushido and the samurai class, the ronin and those who lost their places after the war, whether they fight for or against the open of the country's border.
Henry Roberts
Boku no Pico
Brody Taylor
I dont think Jormungand counts
Hunter Bailey
This wasn't a war though if I remember well That was an uprising
Aaron Wright
Not entirely a war film but Patlabor 2 is essentially a criticism of Japan's war involvement, most Oshii works touch upon the realities of conflict in ways most people are too afraid to.
Luke Cox
expand what you read? theres some good war stories out there like pic related >ishval massacre its fullmetal not kokolocoohno
Still counts as war, war isn't just evenly match fights.
Noah Price
>a format steeped deeply in glorification >shonen >the vast majority of anime You did nothing but support my theory and build a strawman.
Ryan Wright
Because anime has shifted from art to entertainment much like any other medium. It's why you're never going to see any anime that explores the human condition or any serious subject matter with any dignity the same way you're never going to see anything like Das Boot or Paths of Glory on the big screens again, and you only have the global hyper-capitalist culture to thank for that. Anime is too young to have been born in a time period in which it could have flourished as an art form.
Sebastian Wood
There's at least one manga translated to english. And I've read at least 3 manga from the 1980s about spec fiction about japan getting a north japan communist shithole state.
You fucking complaining piece of shits assume anime is all weekly shonen jump series.
Brody Rodriguez
Nobody cares about your stupid ass alt-history schlock. If I wanted that I'd just lurk /his/ for 120 seconds before realising why I don't lurk /his/.
Jaxson Ward
Cat Shit One, Grave of the Fireflies and Barefoot Gen, you goddamned newfag.
The GeGeGe no Kitaro mangaka also has a war memoir, if you can even read.
Josiah Bailey
What I want is a slice of life family anime during the 1960 strikes. It ends with the dad who's head organiser at the local union getting stabbed to death by yakuza paid by the mining company board of directors.
The Cockpit is exactly what you are looking for, it ends tragically for all of the characters and the war marches on around them. I think Sora no Woto (sound of the sky) is a more current example of it as well this is from that anime Technically they do have some impact on the outcome of things, but for the most part they are trying to live and survive in a post-apocalyptic world
Why does anime always need to be fast-paced, bright-colored and "fun"? You can tell plenty of compelling, depressing stories. In anime that is mostly restricted to films though, not series.
Cooper Thomas
Are you perhaps retarded?
Logan Peterson
You're not answering his question, you're the fucktard. Anime does not need to be inherently 'fun', and your poor summation of war as a media genre only exposes your ignorance on the subject. Good job.
The Cat Shit One OVA sucks ass, and is bad CGI to boot. Avoid like the plague.
Fucking wrong. Those bodies wouldn’t be burned to a crisp, there isn’t enough oxygen. In fact most of them would be untouched and have suffocated instead.
Sebastian Moore
>Why hasnt there been a single good anime about realities of war? Because Jap hasn’t been in a war since WW2 and that was relatively low intensity compared to modern conflicts.
>the average US soldier/marine would see 40 days of combat over 4 years in the pacific during WW2 >the average US soldier/marine would see 240 days of combat in one year durin the Vietnam War
Andrew Baker
Now And Then, Here and There is basically the Come and See of anime
Xavier Thomas
Wars are bad :(
Jace Bell
>Why hasnt there been a single good anime about realities of war? Gundam UC timeline shows
Carson Morris
>itt: rec me some anime about war Kill yourself.
Matthew Reed
>Why hasnt there been a single good anime about realities of war Because japanese producers are not interested in going deep into war stories. They won't try to make an adaptation of All Quiet on the Western Front, or Unknown Soldier >Watching a anime about a person stuck in a fighting hole while his friends get blown to smithereens by Arti isn't exactly fun Anime is not just about fun and giggles. It's about making viewer feel like he's there, make him love the characters and feel their pain. >Grave of the Fireflies and Barefoot Gen, They're more about the misery war has brought upon civilians, rather than about war itself. I like the idea, though I doubt that Yakuza-controlled media would let it go like that. By the way, italian live action cinema has been featuring similar motives, like "Confession of a police comissar" or "Working class goes to heaven" >The Cockpit It's good, but it's not enough.
What are some Western cartoons about brutal realities of war? Anime are cartoons mostly aimed at children and young adults and they don't care about that. There are some movies or artsy projects, but I doubt a TV anime like that would be popular.
Tyler Hall
translations never Western kids dont watch cartoons, they read books or watch movies. Pic related springs to my mind, everyone reads it before 3rd grade
>What are some Western cartoons about brutal realities of war Waltz with Bashir. 1977 Polygon
Matthew Lewis
The best show about the realities of modern war is Generation Kill. Never really wanted an anime with a super dark look at how war “”really is”” because war is kinda just fucking around while being ready to jump into actuon at any moment.
any free download site other than MEGA? I need to get the rest of the season than S1. Mega seems to block further downloads.
Aiden Price
>1977 Polygon holy fuck!thanks user. also, what's the ending of WwB? Could not understand it.
Adam Cook
Thinks he's some kinda hero... from a japanese comic book.
Gavin Bell
>also, what's the ending of WwB? Could not understand it. Characters whitnessing the aftermatch of the massacre, I suppose.
Nathan Diaz
what's wrong with good old torrents
Henry Walker
So wad the war of American Independence, but the Yanks will get mad if you tell them that.
Charles Gomez
Haven't looked at 80s anime much have you?
Dominic Flores
I ain't even mad, lobster.
John Johnson
>incredibly short with multiple "heroes" that shape the course of war You what mate? That pretty much how it goes at that level but you just want some grunt level pov shit
Robert Campbell
oh so DEEP and MEANINGFUL
Noah Hernandez
>no one that was ever in the shit ended up being glorifying war What a silly statement.
they do a bad job though, thats why OP specified good
Colton Lee
Grave of the Fireflies or more recently, In This Corner of the World are good examples though obviously more about the effects of war on civilians than combatants.
Gavin Thomas
What makes you think Japanese kids don't read war-themed literature in school?
Leo Price
Any memoir or interview of a Allied Flamerthrower or anybody who dared to venture into a cleared cave.
The initial burst of napalm would remove all the oxygen in the cave and the draft of air being sucked in won't be enough oxygen supply the "burning to a crisp" type of wounds those bodies. The only thing that would be burned would be those unlucky souls to be directly hit with the initial burst of napalm.
Jaxon Collins
War doesn't suck in cinema, There plenty of good war movies.
they're close to the entrance so wouldn't they be hit by the napalm? Also wouldn't the ammunition cause damage if it got too heated/touched fire?
Aaron Edwards
if those japs are 5 feet tall then some of those bodies are a considerable distance from the entrance
Owen Rodriguez
>ctrl+f: Flag >Phrase not found
Aiden Morgan
Western cartoons aren't anywhere near as developed or demographically far-reaching medium as anime. There is nothhing inherently childish about animation as a tool of expression. You're stuck in the cultural mindset that it is simply because disney got there first and marketed to that demographic specifically. Imagine if the mormons got to film as a medium first and used it mainly as a tool to spread propaganda. Would you be going on about how we don't need anything like apocalypse now because "cinema is exclusively for mormons and it serves no other purpose"? Of course not, because that would be retarded.
Nicholas White
>realities of war So shooting in the general direction of the enemy for 6 hours before getting blown up by artillery?
Brayden Williams
I have been out of western mmedia for so long I honestly don't know what the internet big boys use nowadays besides piratebay
Evan Thompson
War in the Pocket?
Nathan Thomas
Because Japan is a pacifist country and any living memory of war left is basically people who were kids at the time, so they only really expierenced the bombings. Hell most ww2 anime only really deals with the bombings anyways. Meanwhile in the West war is still a part of our lives, even if its mostly just forever wars in the background. There still is some connection, especially for Americans, to the horrors of war.
Logan Ross
My understanding is that most Japanese School history focuses on the bombings rather tha the war itself, since it really does not make Japan look good. I could be wrong though.
