F is for friends who do stuff together
Kemono Frenemies
Dominic Torres
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Josiah Mitchell
U is for you and me
Logan Parker
Sometimes, to love someone you've got to be a stranger.
Tyler Davis
ア is for Amigos! doing stuff together!
ソ is for So much fun!
ビ if for Bisexual-Experimentation
right here with everyone!
Luke Garcia
I need healing.
Wyatt Hall
U is for uranium BALLS
Eli Garcia
Alright, I have 2 questions.
1.- Wasn't Kaban an original character from Tatsuki? Is it ok for Kadokawa to use it?
2.- Does Servals actually go "Nya nya nya"?
Hunter Kelly
Easton Williams
1. Yes. Tatsuki has a thing for cute, small, short-haired, black-haired, tomboyish girls. You can definitely see traces of Kaban in First Person and the Oni Girl, even.
Daniel Powell
>1
Yes, he created Kaban but it's Kemono Friends property, they can do whatever they want with the character.
>2
I dunno, you can search some videos and see if it sounds like a "nya" to you
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Grayson Adams
I can't believe this ended up being relevant.
Hudson Peterson
Landon Morales
>Jabari the serval
Luis Gutierrez
Even more sugoi that it's a 2009 video
Michael Howard
That's a weird but cute dog.
William Williams
Thanks.
I guess they do go "Miaow"
Mason Thomas
This episode was tanoshii. Too bad it immediately ended after Kyururu threw the frisbee out the window though
Parker Jones
wtf serval is a roastie
Camden Collins
Please be more understanding. Friends are very prone to being sexually frustrated.
Xavier Morris
>Friends are very prone to being sexually frustrated.
No shit when THEY forgot to write males in.
Jackson King
Are Lucky Beasts just walking dicks and food providers to Friends?
Gavin Brooks
Isn't there an owl doujin that's exactly this concept?
Leo Miller
There's an artist who's lewd KF artwork is entirely Lucky-san x Friends (mainly Kaban though).
William Wilson
>forgot to write males in.
Jason Lee
Huh. Is it by any chance from this same guy? Also thanks for reminding me that this exists
Xavier Sullivan
Considering how S2 turned out I guess fanfic is preferable.
Angel Hall
There are probably enough Hyena Friends to take care of that
John Carter
There's a hundred-thousand threads in this board. You don't need to know the page. You give me a question and an answer, I give you three hundred posts. Anything happens in those three hundred posts and I'm yours. No matter what. Anything happens a post either side of that and you're on your own. Do you understand?
Zachary Garcia
>Is it by any chance from this same guy?
Nah, I was referring to KRTIT_KRKNS. twitter.com
He mainly does Kaban x Lucky artwork, but he loves all the (KF1) Friends.
Gabriel Watson
I wish they animated the whole thing in this style
Landon Phillips
>So... What kind of Friend are you?
...
>A Human.
Charles Gomez
>hetfag status
William Young
A real human Friend
Matthew Clark
Oh, that guy. Thanks user.
God I wish that was me
Hunter Jones
>forgot to write males in.
user, these two were in KF1, remember?
Camden Ross
Isaac Morales
I wish they didn't animate this show at all
Dylan Miller
This. I'd rather be reminiscing about KF1 and wishing than to have KF2 and regretting.
Jeremiah King
First day on Yea Forums?
Samuel Powell
it would be a million times better than this.
Christopher Smith
Wow that Serval is a fucking dwarf.
Jace Hall
go back
Isaiah Edwards
Friends are IMAGINE tier
Jace Gutierrez
no, but I meme on /u/fags whenever there's a chance
Robert Baker
>Serval's spirit reincarnates as a genki leafboy
>Kaban's spirit reincarnates as a cute little girl who splits herself into seven cute, lovable sisters
They truly are an inseparable pair.
Leo Miller
Go self insert into a dead guy.
Brody Cooper
I'm happy to see Kaban again. It's been years ever since.
Michael Gutierrez
It's just comforting to know she's doing well and that she's still with Serval, in some weird way. Just imagine if there existed a timeline where Kaban's all alone with the owls everyday and Serval died and forgot her and is off with some extremely rude new human Friend.
Joseph Price
may.2chan.net
Do you guys feel healed now? me a little.
Noah Johnson
Healed status: [0% -> 10%]
Benjamin Jackson
Maybe it's just the music that was used, but that video gave me little feeling of the final episode of KF1 which had all friends reunited on the attraction park together and playing even if they met for the first time, like lion sleeping near ezo, otter and prairie playing or herajika sexually assaulting jagger-san
Zachary Lopez
This season is horrible. Only good things so far:
>Caracal, has more personality than Serval
>Doggo, loyal and even risked her life for the stupid Fart
>Shitbird, I like Fart-chan bullying
>Owls learnt to cook
>Kaban's design, I really like how she looks
Brayden Roberts
Don't forget they got to VA bottlenose dolphin
Aaron Perez
I like Kaban's new look too, but it just doesn't seem genki, positive, or friendly. I think it's because she's wearing predominately black when before her outfit color was mainly white. There's also the fact she's been through so much bad shit that it's understandable that she wouldn't look as optimistic, happy, or welcoming as before, which is the biggest shame of all considering how all the Friends came to care so much about her because she was all that.
Mason Hill
Cameron Robinson
Chase Peterson
Austin Peterson
Sometimes I feel like we give too much hidden meanings and dark stuff to a show aimed for kids.
Owen Gray
Holy fucking shit
Jackson Peterson
I would remove caracal (bitchy cat) and the owls (fucking fatsos) and include "EL JEFE" and "Qt Mewhan Bat"
I particularly dislike nu-kaban simply because of her hair color being green, and you know that green hair is bounded to losing.
Jack Price
She has suffered so much, she deserves better.
Jaxson Flores
Christopher Myers
The green hair thing annoyed me at first too since Kaban's hair is blueish-black. If they absolutely wanted her hair green, they could've started her off with green highlights too in the show to make it less different. Nu-Kaban's design would look better with black hair though.
Ian Johnson
Why is Mirai so tall
It wasn't us who made this show dark
Jacob Martinez
Samuel Walker
Let us protect the cute doggo!
Chase Lewis
I want to do THIS to her. Spoilered for animal abuse and gore.
Brayden Garcia
Cute Doggo
Angel Morales
M-MONSTER!!!
Jason Cooper
I should not need to be healed after watching Kemono Friends
Why would they hurt me like this?
Dominic Jackson
Luis Bailey
I loved to bully the shitbird but after the last episode I don't hate her anymore and now I want to fucking kill Brap-chan
Cooper Sullivan
Jose Walker
Do you think it'd be inappropriate to ask her if you could rub her belly?
Wyatt Turner
It seems that the only way for Kimura and Co. to stop the bullying to a disliked character was to bully a lovely character to unacceptable levels
Jaxon Jones
>ask doggy to rub her belly
user, you have to gently, but assertively roll her onto her back and rub her belly so she knows you're her master.
Caleb Moore
I don't know what actually happens in this dog episode and after seeing all these reactions I don't think I want to ever watch it.
Easton Phillips
Doggy plays catch with a frisbee with Brap-chan, then protects her from a feral Beast Friend, getting covered in dirt and injuries in the process. She goes up to Kyururu while still covered in dirt and injuries and says that she isn't good enough to be Kyururu's dog because she couldn't protect her and asks Kyururu to tell her to 'go home', which she does and then Kyururu, Serval and Caracal let her go without even wondering if she's okay despite being injured and running back home with tears in her eyes.
Justin Barnes
Sabertooth Tiger comes, Kyururu goes to warn Serval and Caracal despite Dog's warnings to stay inside, Tiger attacks Dog, Serval scares Tiger off, the three leave Dog to keep traveling
Jack Miller
That's not Kaban, that's Caban, a cerulean doppleganger created by stealing Kaban's sparkle.
Hunter King
Leo Sanchez
Why does every thumbnail of Domestic Abuse Dog look like someone bukkaked all over her face???????
Tyler Nelson
That's what the producer does whenever he rewatches the episode, since he loves seeing doggy get abused so much.
Owen Reyes
is the white spot on the right clipping into her hair?
Jacob Foster
You can watch the first half of the episode, that way you'll know why everybody loves the dog, then drop it for your own good.
Adam Wright
I think the reason why the Japs unanimously hate the episode is because this is literally the story of Hachiko, but instead of having an ending of a master finally coming back, they thought that they could write a better story if they beated the shit out of the dog and abandoned her again.
Cooper Murphy
Because Mirai is an adult, so I guess that Mine's vision every friend was for them to have the height of an 8yo girl.
Jose Gomez
No, this is a regular tiger. Probably Bengal but they're all basically the same. Sabertooth looks totally different.
Liam Brown
god I hate wikifags
>"Kemono Friends Pavilion probably takes place prior to the anime timeline"
>right next to a screenshot of the mountain area showing Kaban's coffee cup design in the grass
Jacob Brown
>wiki
fix it instead of complaining or at least point shit out in talk page
Jordan Howard
If you want another reason to hate wikifags, they recently sent a "support letter" to Kimura, about 3 days prior the ep 9 broadcast.
Jason King
>fixing a wiki
You've never tried this before, have you
Ayden Smith
>the wikifags are the same faggots from reddit
How awful.
Jaxon Collins
Yes I did. You shouldn't take scary tales of authors sitting on their pet articles forever reverting any changes so seriously.
Alexander Young
t. has never touched an anime wiki before
Ryder Butler
Dog is God
Jacob Allen
Dead Money was a flawed but fun DLC
Ryan Murphy
I WANT TO PET DOGGO NOW
Asher Harris
How do i remove all the japari coins from the vault and escape in time"?
Julian Carter
I think Kimura's plan is to hurt us so much it causes an overflow error and we start getting healed instead.
Brandon Rogers
>hurt us so much it causes an overflow error and we start getting healed instead
youtube.com
I hate it. That's how horribly scarred abused housewives end up justifying staying with their husband.
Evan Long
Henry Cooper
.
Ethan Martin
Otter is the MOST tanoshii. Things would be very different if she were Kaban's best friend.
John Carter
Why does Doggo have such Killing Bites-like expressions?
Luke Edwards
Even tanoshii can't save her from this soul-crushing timeline.
Charles Flores
If they take away Small-clawed Otter's tanoshii away, I'm going to fucking kill everyone in this thread.
Jose Robinson
Don't!
Chase Moore
Because we're Kemono Enemies now
Landon Morris
I've spilled so much semen for her!
Luis Baker
Is it really real that the scriptwriter published a novel by a shitty writer that is forced by a company to write a bad script for a second season of a successful anime?
Jayden Rodriguez
doggo doesn't completely justify S2, but she comes close
Jace Harris
Yes. Check the archives for a link.
David Wilson
Landon Brown
God, huskies are so cute.
Landon Rodriguez
t.lazy fag looking for reasons to not even try
Jeremiah Williams
This is a husky, user.
Christopher Kelly
If you were hired by a company to work on a property of theirs and you develop a character for that property on their time, it effectively becomes theirs. This is the same with Tatsuki and Kaban.
Aiden Ward
Though, that certainly doesn't stop Tatsuki from creating similar characters as we can see with First Person.
Elijah Gomez
Wan wan!
Jackson Bell
I just read the Newtype interview.
I thought it was just sheer incompetence that they're tumbling through here, but the interview revealed that the underlying theme and driving force of S2 is sheer malice disguised as arrogance.
They really are going out of their way to hurt us in ways we yet to discover.
Jaxon Peterson
black hair © Kadokawa Enterprises do not steal
Jace Phillips
Those are some pretty heavy words
can you give me a rundown on the interview
Nathan Powell
Mind pastebinning that shit?
Adrian Young
That's not even exaggerating, you are just spouting stupid bullshit now.
Alexander Perry
It's on reddit.
>>**Q6.** (Interviewer) About the selection, is that Masumoto-san’s initiative?
>>Masumoto: Fundamentally we use the line up set by sensei (Yoshizaki Mine) as the base and with some discussions we decide it. The one important regulation that bind us is that it’s about “The aftermath of the animal who gets involved with the human” (*They used the word shimatta here which express “bad or unpleasant thing”). Having said that, even the animals we let as it is in their natural condition, they are affected by us in natural ways too and thus they get affected by humans, so strictly speaking, right now there’s no animal who do not get affected by human. Based on that, in 1st episode we started with Spot Billed Duck as model; the animal that we can come into contact with easily whether it’s in a park or zoo.
Samuel Jones
Thank you
Gabriel Lee
Nigger, I don't want other people going to reddit.
pastebin.com
Adrian Ross
>reddit
well well well
Anthony Lee
Let's play together user!
Henry Campbell
dotards?
Colton Evans
>Producer Kimura said he will let “Kaban” appear.
>even so we’re persistent that the center of the story is Kyururu.
>there’s the talk about expanding the product to larger audience (“The product is not intended for kids but let’s expand it”).
>The one important regulation that bind us is that it’s about “The aftermath of the animal who gets involved with the human” (*They used the word shimatta here which express “bad or unpleasant thing”)
>Also, what will happen to Kyururu and Friends… the relation between human and animal when “the seas condition” that was explained in the 6th episode becomes worse. I hope you will enjoy that. Also, it’s already written in the TV preview but that part (6th episode) long version will be on the special packet (of the BD). I think that will become an enjoyable product so I would be happy if you would go to check it out!
Highlights.
Mason Lee
>The product is not intended for kids but let’s expand it
Sound like try hard to make it for kids to me...
David Lopez
That's... some incomprehensible machine translated garbage. Sasuga reddit.
Landon Turner
When it already was by the time Tatsuki and co. were done with it. It's also probably guaranteed that because they have no idea what the fuck to do about Kaban, we won't get any closure regarding her and it won't come up in the last couple episodes. Serval is Kyururu's friend now, after all. It's all about Kyururu and how she's so important, Kaban's obviously just jealous that she isn't a real human, but a gross faker that can't stop crying over spilled serval.
I'm fucking glad KF2 isn't canon.
Logan Fisher
Feels like S2 spilled out of a bizarro mirror universe.
Jayden Kelly
I must confess, posts like these are pretty scary. It's very subtle so there's no way to know if the guy only pretends or is he really mentally deranged.
KF fans and mental disability
name a more iconic duo
Brandon Reyes
Watch episode 10 is going to reveal serval never died she just has a shitty memory. I honestly think that would be worse
Jonathan Bennett
Mirai's serval "died" too you know but somehow nobody cares about this.
Ideally they should have brought back Kaban and Serval unharmed from their sea trip and just let Serval do its own business while Kaban does her research with the owls. It's not like they are married and have to stay at arm's length 24/7.
Christian Watson
Serb
Jeremiah Walker
In S1 when Serval saw Mirai in the recording she legitimately became upset and cried even if she didn't know why herself. S2 Serval doesn't give a shit. They also didn't parade older Mirai around either and just showed recordings of her.
Connor Harris
>Mirai's serval "died" too you know but somehow nobody cares about this.
Background character that only appeared in flashbacks
Still alive and healthy in her last appearance
Included as fanservice for the 3 people who played the already dead game
vs
Main character of the entire season
Died off screen despite season finale showing other main characters sacrificing themselves for her
Killed due to series creator not liking how successful the anime had become
Anthony White
>redditors are the ones shitting these threads up
Oh so surprised
Aiden Peterson
>she legitimately became upset and cried
Come on... That scene lasted 2 seconds: "huh... is it because i woke up too early" and bam, next scene they are in their bus ready leave like nothing happened.
Josiah Scott
Kayden Jenkins
They are talking about Serval, you understand that right?
Chase King
Why would you think isn't?
Isaac Foster
Because you can't into English
Blake Robinson
>Included as fanservice for the 3 people who played the already dead game
The anime started production a long time before the game died though. The ruined setting and basically rebooted Friends were always going to be there.
Jace Harris
(Mirai's serval was a) background character that only appeared in flashbacks
(Mirai's serval was) still alive and healthy in her last appearance
(Mirai's serval was) included as fanservice for the 3 people who played the already dead game
vs
(Kaban's serval was the) main character of the entire season
(Kaban's serval) died off screen despite season finale showing other main characters sacrificing themselves for her
(Kaban's serval was) killed due to series creator not liking how successful the anime had become
fucking retard
Jayden Torres
>Mirai's serval "died" too you know but somehow nobody cares about this.
People who played the game did.
Christopher Mitchell
I still don't understand why some people are trying to bring down season 1 to "just as bad as season 2". The reception should speak for itself. Season 1 worked with no expectations on the plot from a failed mobage. Barely any viewers even knew about Mirai. If anything those scenes did a great job of introducing the character, building interest in a dead game, and setting up plot threads to be explored in season 2. Serval cries when she first saw Mirai because she is important to her even if she can't remember her. Almost all of these details are thrown away with the season 2 that we have now.
Logan Lewis
They're the same character, which is what upsets Serval so bad. It's not seeing Mirai (which she already has for several minutes), but hearing herself in the background of the video, that makes her remember.
Jason Hughes
Because there is no defending S2 at this point so they try for the "It was always bad" approach.
Leo Howard
Eh, I posted up there, and I'm not criticizing season 1 for it there, I just think the idea of a new generation reboot being some insidious concept unfitting the franchise kind of silly when they were doing it from the start.
Now, yeah, they handled it badly though, especially during the Kaban episodes when Serval seemed to show little acknowledgement of her rather than pushing that in a stronger direction where even if there aren't memories there's a clear connection. They had that flash in the first episode and she was just mentioned there so it's odd they did nothing with it later on when Kaban actually appeared.
Mason Butler
Stop with this retarded comparison. This is not even close to the same thing. There was a TIMESKIP between the game and S1 events and NONE of the Friends featured in S1 are the same individuals as the ones in the game. S1 Serval cried because there’s a sort of shared memory/consciousness between Friends of different generations, but she isn’t the same Serval as the one in the recording.
Juan Hughes
It's more that season 2 isn't really that awful compared to season 1. Biggest differences being the MC and character designs so if you don't like those then yeah, that sucks but it's very subjective.
Otherwise, both seasons had their issues in terms of everything (budget, animation quality, undeveloped plot and ideas, etc)
Chase Cook
>she isn’t the same Serval as the one in the recording
Then S2 serval isn't the same serval as in S1 either.
Camden Cruz
>she isn’t the same Serval as the one in the recording
Probably
>S2 serval isn't the same serval as in S1
who cares
Evan Butler
Do you watch anime with x2 speed? It was made pretty clear during episode 6 that S2 Serval is S1 Serval who lost her memories of S1 events.
Ryder Ross
>It was made pretty clear during episode 6 that S2 Serval is S1 Serval who lost her memories of S1 events.
And S1 made it clear that Friends lose memories when they get eaten by ceruleans.
Charles Walker
>The product is not intended for kids but let’s expand it
Sounds like a fucked up translation of saying Kemono Friends is something everyone can enjoy not just children.
But it reinforces my impression that this is being written from the perspective of someone who considers humans and animals two different things. He talks about humans affecting animals which is contrary to the "animals first" theme this is supposed to have. And departs from what season 1 and the Nexon game were like. That was how different animals have unique traits that make them special and when they work together they can be stronger than they are individually. Even humans, which is just another type of animal, can learn from other animals. KF2 is saying animals are wild beasts unless a human tames them.
David Perez
Is there no link to the original interview? I can't understand 90% of that google translated pastebin.
Owen Roberts
python
Easton Roberts
No, I don’t understando
Blake Turner
Luis Johnson
I remember a comic that shows alternate timelines where Kaban meets other friends first instead of Serval. In otters situation she just stops caring about what kind of friend she is and plays with otter every day.
Leo Richardson
>Those sad "Bad end" comics and "I can't beleive Serval is dead" memes came true.
>"Punished Kaban" came true.
>Kemono Enemies came true.
Now we just need Shoebill to get raped and the dark meme timeline will be complete.
Parker Cruz
Aaron Parker
daym
those mmd models looks pretty decent
Jack Robinson
>"Sorry guys, but i'm the First Person now, cya later, also fuck Kadokawa"
Adrian Gutierrez
Kemu was slow as fuck intially but it's really come into its own
HOWEVER I don't see how kaban looks like Wakaba's sister
>sister is FP when tsun is literally seeing through the FP's eyes
Fucking lmao
Lucas Hughes
>Sister
We have a better theory
Brody Rivera
Episode 10 is the reveal episode first season so prepare for retardation next episode as they tell us how Kaban failed just like they did with Mirai.
Jayden Harris
kemuriturds OUT
Kevin Foster
The post-credits shorts are the real season 2.
Chase Gonzalez
>the ona is a prequel
Yeah fuck that dude.
Luis Bennett
Hope someone stitches em all out after it's done
Anthony Morales
O MY GLOWING EYES
Angel Richardson
Not even same VA
Kevin Powell
Grayson Nguyen
Imagine a world where KF2 by Tatsuki is airing now and incoming KF3 game will be an FGO killer.
Evan Reyes
I’ll have two Japari Buns, a large Japari Bun, Japari Bread with extra dip, a bag of Japari Chips, two Japari Sticks, one with Japari Cheese, and a large Japari Soda.
Parker Evans
Aaron Richardson
God I love eating. Life is a cruel torture. What kind of creator would design us to become fat simply for enjoying a meal!
Isaiah Morales
>What kind of creator would design us to become fat simply for enjoying a meal!
Me.
Grayson Brooks
Well thanks for relegating me to a life of dissatisfaction.
Cameron Butler
Jeremiah Evans
You know how you're looking forward to eating that thing, clearly write your name on it when you put it in the fridge, let your roommate/coworker know you're saving it, and then that asshole steals and eats it anyways?
Thats what humans did to god and we've been given a punishment that fits the crime. Now everything delicious is fattening.
Ian James
This is how it should have been, but no, fuck having nice things.
Isaac Price
Which Friends would better off being a male, Yea Forums?
>Beaver
>Moose
>Rhino
>Asiatic Black Bear
>Gray Wolf
>Brown Bear
>Kyururu
>Caracal
>Giant Pangolin
>Aardwolf
>Cheetah
>Pronghorn
>Domestic Dog
Jack Kelly
People are hating S2 and it's probably going to sell like shit but interest in japan is insane. It has like 3 times more posts on 2ch/2chan than #2.
Makes me wonder how game will do. It kinda lacks the stigma of anime stolen from Tatsuki.
Cooper Jones
None
Sebastian Morales
Will the show redeem itself?
Brayden Morales
James Sanders
But the future refused to change...
Mason Russell
It's like all the fanart we got from the second to last episode of the first season of kemono friends where everyone wanted to save Bag-chan
Except with a bad ending this time
Jace Rivera
TL?
Daniel Scott
Kimura sent us to hell... but we're going even deeper
Tyler Perez
HAPPY~
Colton Hall
Not enough eyeliner.
Jaxon Nguyen
Gabriel Harris
Only if it ends with Gray Wolf thinking that it wasn't a good story and goes on writing again, Kaban and Serval come to her and ask her what is she up to.
Kayden Gonzalez
>What's that you're carrying, Kyururu? Are we going to bury some bones together?
Jonathan Moore
There should be a male version of every Friend.
Either that or the MC should have been male.
Basically, dicks.
Logan Martinez
Robert Allen
>master1200
>shit opinion
>doggo lewding
It's time to leave the park, friend.
Liam Robinson
Justin Morris
Self insert fags are awful.
Thomas Morris
>master1200
Because the original is the same size as the "resized" version. Dumb kemonot*rd.
Christopher Brooks
Kyururu so Serval could fall in love with him to anger fans even more.
Aiden Jackson
Mind you, this was an image from 2017.
Day of the "Kemono Friends 2" episode 1 airing
It's about to start.
Looking forward to it.
Ah! It's not directed by Tatsuki...
And the production company is different...
...
...
That isn't me...
That's not me, either...
That's enough.
Turn it off.
It's nothing to cry about! A second season never existed to begin with! It was just a fleeting dream!
Well said. Let's watch the first season disks.
Agreed! x2
In that case, let's start with episode 10!
No, it's gotta be episode 4!
Let's do 3~
Not episode 8?
Ha ha ha! Let's watch 6.
7 is the best one.
(I pray it doesn't happen like this)
Kayden White
Fren no, no fight
Liam Cruz
Can we change the flow of our timeline with the power of kanashii?
Adrian Reed
Use the power of pic related to change the flow of this timeline and stop repeating the same shit over and over again.
Bentley Jones
Nice cropping, newfriend.
Asher Reyes
not ok
Jaxon Price
t-thanks
Justin Watson
>I pray it doesn't happen like this.
It didn't, it was even worse.
Matthew Scott
>censoring word
Isaac Smith
>Which Friends
>>Kyururu
I don't know what creature you are.
William Jenkins
Kaban = helpful good girl who causes those around her to want to help in return in the end
Kyurururu =
James Bailey
Adrian Cooper
Cooper Harris
Entitled cunt who brings out the worst in every friend.
Jordan Myers
Jackson Morales
Andrew Hernandez
>entitled
Gabriel Morales
See? It wasn't that hard to make a decent episode. Fucking retards what were they thinking.
William Scott
That's called an asspull though. Also, a meme.
>Come with us
>Sorry, but waiting for the people who lived here to come back is my duty
Also also, very selfish and low from the doggo to expect kyururu to stay with her and act as a replacement for her previous master.
Jackson Ward
Jack Cruz
REMEMBER REMEMBER
Josiah Gomez
REMEMBER, that you are here forever no matter how hard you pretend.
Angel Anderson
Not if you keep saging this thread.
Ryder Myers
REMEMBER, when the threads reaches page 10, you will bump it, no matter how hard you pretend
Charles Hernandez
12 Angry Friends
Ryan White
>saging threads
newfag alert (no offense intended, i have nothing against fags)
there's no such a thing as saging threads
i have sage by default and only remove it when I explicitly want to bump a thread
Elijah Adams
being able to spot a sage is the opposite of newfaggotry
Luis Flores
Which thread started the dog shitstorm? I need to bask in the hatred.
Asher Walker
It's really not hard thanks to the newfag-friendly Thread Stats feature of the built-in extension.
Hunter Taylor
What shitstorm? Or do you call the kusobird episode a shitstorm too?
Eli Nguyen
Tell me about shitbird, why does she wear the Beep?
Alexander Flores
Name one thing that shitbird did wrong
Isaac Cox
I'd rather just ponder about the steady march towards obscurity.
Jacob Gonzalez
Kino
Asher Hall
Exactly. She did nothing wrong and there is no reason to call her kusobird.
Now lets observe a yet another failed attempt at memeing in pic related. What is even a geropancho.
Brody Reed
Kusobird is a forced meme, but the dog thing is really fucked up and I'm seeing the reaction on JP twitter from it. Even when I wasn't watching the new season I still see the reaction and had to catch up.
Stop comparing the two things and pretending that me saying Kusobird isn't anything is the same as me saying dog isn't anything.
Nicholas Kelly
91%
Leo Edwards
>twitter
Twitter is twitter. And just like all social media nowadays, it's platform for reaction and attentionwhoring. The harder you "react" (aka overreacting) the better.
Luis Miller
>social media
like a clockwork
Levi Perry
>act as a replacement for her previous master
That's literally all she knows about, her entire life. Kyururu should have known better.
James Long
Jeremiah Ortiz
twitter is where most of the japanese KF fans are, for better or worse
Andrew Ramirez
Moral of the story, friends aren't supposed to actually get hurt like this.
Brody Adams
That's not surprising.
Twitter probably has more anime fans than Yea Forums. Fuck, even MAL has more anime fans than Yea Forums. Doesn't really mean much.
Justin Taylor
Least all the Hokuto no Ken parodies make it worth it.
Ian Miller
Hunter Gonzalez
They fucked up the textures. They shouldn't have covered her in mud like that. Friends getting hurt is nothing new in KF.
Kayden Perry
Fuck weaklings and fuck dogs
Parker Roberts
>all she knows about
Who? The dog?
Carson Wright
ALPACA'S CAFE SPINOFF WHEN?
Thomas Bell
Yeah
Ryan Thomas
Matthew Johnson
Seems like every jp artist is on Twitter now. Pixiv is an afterthought if they even upload there at all anymore.
Anthony Flores
For future use, when everything dies down and we can finally bury the ashes.
Bentley Rivera
S2-denier here.
What did they do to this poor friend?
David Myers
It is what it is. At least she was portrayed as a proper dog: loyal and brave, ready to put her life on the line for a human. A bit selfish though but also understanding towards the end.
And Kyururu didn't have a choice anyway since she got kidnapped.
Jace Jackson
don't waste your time with this one, friends
Chase Long
All those little streaks makes it seem like she hit the ground from every possible direction and infers being absolutely mauled, rather than just dusted up which was probably the actual intention
Brayden Ramirez
Common dog friend was mostly to death trying to protect a human from a rabid tiger friend
Then the human instantly stopped paying attention to her, and told her to go back home
And the dog friend limped home with all her injuries alone, to tend to herself or bleed out on the way. So now Japan is making fanart of what they wished happened instead.
Julian Lee
You forgot how she was raped offscreen and how Caracal beat her up for kidnapping Kyururu and then Serval took a dump on her chest.
Juan White
That doesn't sound very tanoshii.
Anthony Brown
Then Siberian Tiger came back hours after they left and raped, mauled her to death, and ate her animal.
Jacob Harris
>That's called an asspull though. Also, a meme.
Are you saying characters being nice to each other is an asspull and a meme?
Xavier Lee
You need credibility. Being nice just for the sake of being nice is an asspull.
Nathan Cox
F IS FOR FIRE THAT BURNS DOWN THE WHOLE TOWN
Brody Wright
U IS FOR UR A SHIT, BIRD.
Noah Cooper
A handy compilation of all of Arai-san's appearances this season.
Nathan Howard
So you're just denying all of Kemono Friends s1
Grayson Johnson
There was a bigger version by the way.
Isaiah Mitchell
>Being nice just for the sake of being nice is an asspull.
>Kaban's Serval's existence is just one giant asspull
You must be a Friend who's really good at making people mad!
Tyler King
REMEMBER
Levi White
N IS FOR NO TATSUKI, NO TANOSHII!
Ayden Nguyen
Of course, user. I love the Friends and will continue to talk about how much I love the Friends long after KF2 stops existing.
I want to talk about how much I love KF and how cute Serval, Kaban, Lucky, and all the other Friends are and how great the animals are too. I don't want to ever forget the smiles KF has given me, and I don't ever want all the hard work Tatsuki and Yaoyorozu put into making KF to be forgotten or ever go to waste.
Ryder Scott
tl;dr
Gabriel Nguyen
I love Kemono Friends.
Jordan Lewis
t. average chink
You can just imagine Domestic Dog paid them in Japari buns off-screen.
Leo Morris
>namedroppers and e-dramafags
literally the main reason why KF threads got eventually banned on Yea Forums two years ago
Michael King
Can someone please explain why a badly made video of Moose is being viewbotted to 14 MILLION views on Nico?
Luke Thomas
Link? I want to watch it now.
Brody Walker
Lucas Martin
The "did I wake up too early" line is one of the most famous lines in the entire series. 11-12 threads / livewatches had comments about everyone having gotten up early pasted wall to wall.
Which is, of course, why KF1 won countless animation awards from respected industry institutions and KF2 irritated industry figures enough to break the wall of silence and complain about how shit it is. Because they're works of equal quality.
Tyler Brown
>talking about directors, producers, and screenwriters is "namedropping" and "e-drama"
sasuga Yea Forums
Nolan Rodriguez
The 25th of September.
Owen James
user please don't respond to obvious bait. At least, I hope it's bait.
Dylan Evans
talking != repeating same nonsense over and over again
it's like that anti-yuri dude that get constantly btfo everywhere, noone's going to defend him because he's "talking about the yuri genre".
Mason Mitchell
It's just a not very well done Kirby Dream Land otoMAD
the uploader doesn't seem to understand it either
nicovideo.jp
Gabriel Edwards
This gets my wakaran activated.
Luis Allen
Logan Wilson
>talking != repeating same nonsense over and over again
So identify some of the "nonsense" that needs debunking in this thread instead of just smugly announcing that everyone is wrong and you're the only person in this thread who knows what's going on.
Aaron Adams
Am I a good dog, user?
Sebastian Reed
Not everyone cares about reaction threads and social media drama.
It's sounds extra pathetic if you are influenced by this stuff and think that people should conform to what twitter/nnd/futaba/Yea Forums tells them.
>Because they're works of equal quality.
You are misquoting on purpose?
That post literally starts with:
>It's more that season 2 isn't really that awful compared to season 1
Alexander Stewart
If you'd like, we could talk about in-depth about how badly episode 9 was handled.
Ryan Gomez
Less drama, more KF
Elijah Bailey
>KF1 won countless animation awards from respected industry institutions
What did it win? I only know it got some scifi related award?
Luke Cox
What kind of dog is she supposed to be if not a husky?
Levi Clark
It won the Tokyo Anime Award for Animation the Year (2018), which is really, really big, as well as the 49th Seiun Sci-Fi Awards Media Category, CGWORLD's Awards Grand Prize, and even the Nissin commercial won gold in 3rd Animonozukuri Awards, for what it's worth.
Jaxon Williams
>Not everyone cares about reaction threads and social media drama.
I was pointing out to that the scene that lasted "2 seconds" was one of the defining points of the show to many people.
>It's more that season 2 isn't really that awful compared to season 1
They're not even comparable.
KF2 is absolute shit because
1. the animation is shit.
2. the screenwriting is shit.
3. the premise of the story is fundamentally bad - one of the subthemes of KF2 is that Kyururu solves problems essentially via inventing "games", which can only fix psychological problems with friends; therefore, the "crisis" of every episode has to directly involve one of the friends having a shitty personality (MAKE US SHIT OR U CANT GO HOME) as opposed to the environmental challenges encountered by Kaban + co. in S1.
4. one of the only defenses that people are mustering for KF2 (some fan creators, one of the serialized mangaka) is that it's explicitly meant to dismantle the "kind world" of KF, which did not faithfully reflect the underlying concept of the IP "Kemono Friends" nor the world of animals. KF2 was meant to reflect a different underlying "philosophy", hence, why people defend E9's atrocious treatment of dog by saying that it highlights the relation between humans / wild animals / domesticated animals. the problem with this "philosophy" is that if you want to sell someone a philosophy / grand narrative, you have to do so in a work that speaks to people via an excellently executed work. KF2 doesn't do this. instead the figures on staff who created it just shout at people that they should like it. it's absolutely inane. it's not impossible for a more skilled team with more time to ACTUALLY systematically dismantle the "kind world" of KF1 in a way that people would feel bittersweet about instead of reacting like people had shit in their breakfast but this wasn't it.
Leo Ward
AT-X Anime of the Year and Newtype Best Theme Song as well.
Jason Bell
twitter.com
Miyuhan, who voiced Sunaneko and shot to stardom for singing S1's ED, uploaded a preview one of her new songs on Twitter, commenting "Please stop destroying what I love," and "I'm not allowed to say what I want to say because of my position, so I put my feelings into this song instead."
While she insists that the lyrics are up to personal interpretation, they are clearly a call to end the senseless hate and fighting over KF2.
Miyuhan is one of the only VAs who publicly spoke out against Tatsuki's exile when it happened, which made her appearance in KF2 as the voice of Vampire Bat puzzling to many fans.
Caleb Murphy
>it's explicitly meant to dismantle the "kind world" of KF,
When this kind of view of the world sells hotter than gold, you'd think Mine would swallow his pride and cynicism and accept that people want to believe the world is a good place and that all the animals we share the world with are just as interesting and equally impressive as humanity. I don't see any reason why dismantling the "kind world" Yaoyorozu created for KF1 would've been a good idea in the first place considering that the kindness only extended so far to the reach of the Friends, but outside of it is a wholly wild, vibrant, dangerous world, so that kindness was especially poignant and necessary to highlight how much more bearable life is with friends.
I think it comes off as extremely cynical to intentionally desire the destruction of something so kind and friendly and to have intentionally desired something like KF2 as its replacement. I don't want to believe someone could be that jaded.
Evan Scott
So is Kemono friends something between Kemono Friends 1 and what it was supposed to be Kemono Friends 2?
Like a Kemono Friends 3?
> Kaban finds a new land
> Serval died and returned to being a normal animal.
> Serval is reborn as a friend
>* Kemono Friends 2 Starts. *
Nathan Lewis
I always thought Mewhan had far too big a mouth compared to her position. From a professional standpoint, I mean. But I guess (or at least my impression was) that she's always had kind of an "alternative" personality and that's just who she is.
In some sense I should be glad that there are people who are willing to speak their mind on this matter, I was happy to see other industry figures speak on the matter. In the end it's probably just because I'm racist against idols.
Carson Ross
KF3 is going to be a mobage and arcade game sequel to Kemono Friends 2. No one at Tomason knows what happened to Kaban, Serval and Lucky between KF1 and 2 because they believe Mine and the higher-ups will think of something. Really, it's best to just ignore KF2 and 3 entirely and treat Kemono Friends as its own thing, with Kaban, Serval and Lucky's adventure still going on. We'll never know what really happens after they meet Dolphin, but the people at Yaoyorozu do, as it really is their story to tell.
Also fuck KDKW and Mine for not paying Tatsuki for writing the fucking script for Kemono Friends.
Lucas Jenkins
No.
I'm told you were the best.
Christopher Collins
Mewhan really doesn't care considering she's a musician first and a voice actress second, I think.
Noah Young
All of the listed issues are greatly exaggerated.
I don't like KF2 as much as I like KF1 but not for any of the reasons people bring up in these threads.
1. The animation is low budget but it was the same for KF1 (and Kemurikusa). KF2 objectively has more animation errors though.
3. The main theme is that Kyururu roams around Japari Park with a couple of Friends to find her home. It's just a simple adventure, sometimes she gets to resolve conflicts with games, sometimes not, sometimes she doesn't even need to resolve anything.
First season had a similar formula: MC roams around the park with Friends to find something and on the way things happen to them.
4. That's sound like some 2deep4u bullshit rant to me. I don't really care what other people think the series is supposed to be and how you are supposed to understand it (and by extension, how you are supposed to like or not like it).
Caleb Watson
>it's best to just ignore KF2 and 3 entirely and treat Kemono Friends as its own thing, with Kaban, Serval and Lucky's adventure still going on. We'll never know what really happens after they meet Dolphin
This shit is gonna hurt so bad, but I guess you're right.
KF won't be the same good shit it used to be ever again.
Henry Bell
>It's just a simple adventure
So was KF1 user. Just because the premise is simple doesn't mean the way they go about it needs to be. Why has no one ever asked what Kyururu wants to do AFTER she finds her home? Why has no one cared about what Kyururu wants to do at home when they get there?
Throughout KF1, the Friends would sometimes bring up ideas of what Kaban could do after she finds out what kind of Friend she is and later, what she could do after she finds her habitat.
>some 2deep4u bullshit rant to me
It's sad to see people can't appreciate fried tofu anymore. The core themes of a show are integral to the story structure surrounding it. If the core is rotten, it's a bad fruit.
Adrian Jackson
outta the way catlet
Bentley Morales
Nah, you can tell when it's in motion that she's full of clawmarks. That's just work safe blood.
Hunter Kelly
Except Kyururu rarely works towards said goal, and traveling to the places seen in the sketchbook one by one has very little correlation with it. Compare it to season 1 in which every episode was a necessary step on the way to reach the library and find out what animal Kaban was. Season 2's main theme is broken, and it's one of the main reasons why people find s2's story to be so boring.
Nolan Lopez
*glows eyes in your path*
Cooper Brooks
>1. The animation is low budget but it was the same for KF1
1. The budget only matters some. KF1 was storyboarded years in advance, worked on by a team who pretty much specializes in making low-budget 3D not look like shit, and probably had far more editing passes than KF2 did on it's accelerated timeline. KF2 was made by a studio who IIRC has never done a 3D-main anime of any kind. It's the small things and subtle details that you have to get right to make the world feel "alive" and KF1 did this very well.
>3. First season had a similar formula: MC roams around the park with Friends to find something and on the way things happen to them.
Things do not just randomly "happen to them" in KF1. The characters consciously move with purpose, encounter natural obstacles, and overcome those obstacles via planning, execution, and by utilizing the unique traits of friends (another KF1 theme: "every friend has their strong point in different places!") Generally when the S1 crew gets closer to their goal it's because the main crew has worked to make it happen. And "team works together to overcome obstacle" is fundamentally more satisfying than "team works together to overcome friend's shitty personality."
Kyururu, on the other hand, doesn't do this: sometimes she just flops around and end up nearer to her goal than when she started: for example, in E1 the monorail just happened to get her closer to her destination than when she started (how lucky!) even though that wasn't her goal, and in E3 Campo Flicker just happens to recognize the picture (how lucky!) and sends them on their way.
>4. That's sound like some 2deep4u bullshit rant to me.
I'm glad you agree that the staff working on Kemono Friends 2 are only capable of 2deep4u bullshit rants instead of doing good work.
William Miller
>So was KF1 user.
Exactly.
>Why has no one ever asked what Kyururu wants to do AFTER she finds her home? Why has no one cared about what Kyururu wants to do at home when they get there?
Because it's not a big deal. This isn't even nitpicking, at this point it's more like "why would even bring this up here". There are tons of little things that bothered me about KF1 too, but those absolutely don't make KF1 a bad anime.
>The core themes of a show are integral to the story structure surrounding it.
The core themes are similar. The setting isn't complex enough to even try to find any major differences.
Also, again, I'm not even defending KF2.
And even if Tatsuki wrote KF2, I still won't be able to appreciate it because of character designs.
Ethan Jenkins
Factors that make KF2 an incoherent and inconsistent mess are what I'd call a big deal. This is basic story writing we're talking here.
Nathaniel Bailey
>Because it's not a big deal.
The motives of the main character of the story ARE a big deal.
>The setting isn't complex enough to even try to find any major differences.
This is an absolute non sequitur. Settings do not need to be complex to have "differences in themes." There are countless stories told in Japanese high schools with zero interesting twists to the setting because it's fucking real life, and yet within this most boring of all possible settings there are works (whatever you think of their quality) with vastly different themes and stories told.
Eli Kelly
ITT: people watched that one yukkuri video and parrot its arguments
Nicholas Martin
>one yukkuri video
What?
Nolan Rivera
>you'd think Mine would swallow his pride and cynicism
In some very abstract sense I can sympathize with the feeling that the "identity" of your series has been lost if it changes too much. But only in the abstract. I still enjoy videos about people firing cruise missiles into the KF2 production committee boardroom.
The one maybe silver lining about KF2 being a garbage fire is that because it's so awful, it makes it very easy to pretend that it's not canon. If a skilled director and skilled writer had teamed up to tell the "we wished those days could have continued forever..." story in which the YASASHII SEKAI of Japari Park falls apart (or worse, if they'd dispatched Tatsuki to do it - maybe that was one of the irreconcilable creative differences?), we would all cry bitch tears about it and feel miserable about it but in the end would have to accept in our heart of hearts that in the end, this beautiful moment in time was something that couldn't last. Instead we can all just pull a Quick Wiper and keep the Japari Park of S1 in our hearts intact.
Jason Mitchell
bring it on
Dominic Robinson
>I'm incapable of sentient thoughts and opinions on my own so everyone else is as well.
This show has been airing for 3 months and has had many threads talking about what they either like or dislike about the series so far, reaching a common consensus and having shared opinions doesn't mean everyone is a braindead robot who let's a talking head in a video tell them what to think like you.
Parker Morris
Those 2hu things people like to abuse.
Charles Price
You're damn right.
Zachary Wilson
>Things do not just randomly "happen to them" in KF1. The characters consciously move with purpose, encounter natural obstacles, and overcome those obstacles via planning, execution, and by utilizing the unique traits of friends
Sometimes they do, sometimes they don't. I like such themes too, but it's never really consistent in KF1, because like I said, things just happen, and sometimes those things happen to involve teamwork and special powers.
I mean, you could say that KF2 episode 7 involved teamwork too. It's easy to cherrypick and basically only see what you want to see.
Why KF1 story was better imo is because it had the mystery factor (what is this place, where are the humans, what are Friends, etc...). KF2 doesn't really have it anymore so it feels more boring.
>I'm glad you agree that the staff working on Kemono Friends 2 are only capable of 2deep4u bullshit rants instead of doing good work.
I'm talking about that whole paragraph that once again brought up celebrities and what other people think.
I don't know how some people think that being a mindless bandwagoning drone is a good thing. Especially on Yea Forums. If it was on reddit sure, but not on Yea Forums.
Andrew Davis
No shit faggot. He said there was a yukkuri video with arguments people are parroting from it. That's the part that confuses me.
Daniel Morgan
>Sometimes they do, sometimes they don't. I like such themes too, but it's never really consistent in KF1, because like I said, things just happen, and sometimes those things happen to involve teamwork and special powers.
Examples?
Parker Adams
>This is an absolute non sequitur. Settings do not need to be complex to have "differences in themes."
It makes sense when you compare KF1 and KF2. It's the same franchise, same medium and saeme setting. The differences in themes are way too small to make a big deal out of it.
It basically boils down to simple and subjective things like "I like Kaban better than Kyururu", which is fine, you are free to like or not like a character if you want.
Carson Allen
She's a fan first, a musician second, and an actress distant third.
I get why she feels that way. But I disagree because the complaints about KF2 are coming from people's hearts. It's not just Tatsuki fans who don't like the new thing because it's not their old thing. Plenty of viewers were prepared to give the second series a fair chance, and there were lots of people who never gave up on Kemono Friends. The downloads of Pavilion weren't horrible and the stage plays and PPP albums still sold. KF2 was given the opportunity to be successful and it's not because fans don't like it for what it is. You're not a bad fan for complaining about something that isn't good. I like cake, but if you serve me a bad tasting cake I'm not going to like it. You can't tell me I shouldn't complain and that it hurts your feelings that I don't like your awful cake.
Andrew James
>Sometimes they do, sometimes they don't. I like such themes too, but it's never really consistent in KF1, because like I said, things just happen
Nigger, things don't "just happen" in a story. They're laid out, scripted, and made to happen because it was written to be so. You're also wrong regarding it not being consistent in KF1. In almost every single episode (save the penguin episode, since that was more Serval giving Princess a push in the right direction and less Kaban doing anything), the fact that the park is in such a state of disrepair and abandonment means that every which way you look there's bound to be something in need of fixing. The events of one episode lead directly into the next and so on and so forth. The story of KF is better because it's more direct and focused and the viewer is given many reasons to care about the well-being of all the Friends, not just the ones we meet.
>mindless drones
You can and should ask everyone here what it is they hate about KF2 and you will get a million different answers, I can guarantee you that.
Austin Baker
>I mean, you could say that KF2 episode 7
Wow, a whole episode, surely that'll redeem the season. There are exceptions to every rule (for example, the entire plot of the PPP episode is Princess having a complex) but that doesn't mean that one is the rule and one is the exception. Incidentally, I got it wrong. It wasn't "team works together to overcome friend's shitty personality," it's mostly just Kyururu doing it by herself since certainly nobody else is constructing these games.
>Why KF1 story was better imo is because it had the mystery factor
KF2 also has mysteries (who is Kyururu? what happened to japari park? why does kaban seem like she's hiding something?), and for that matter a lot of the mysteries of KF1 regarding the outside world and where the humans are still around.
>I'm talking about that whole paragraph that once again brought up celebrities and what other people think.
I was referring to people who are explicitly involved in the production of the Kemono Friends IP, but sure, if those are just "celebrities" to you then more power to you.
Liam King
The beaver episode comes to mind.
Michael Gutierrez
Why now though? The Nexon game wasn't like this. The manga wasn't like this. The stage play isn't like this. Tatsuki's vision of Japari Park was consistent with every other iteration of the theme. Only KF2 is taking a different approach.
Evan Sanchez
>Also fuck KDKW and Mine for not paying Tatsuki for writing the fucking script for Kemono Friends.
As far as that goes, I think the main issue is that the original script writer (who still went to the writing meetings and helped with organizing production according to Mine) likely got the payment for that, since he even still had script credits during the show's run. They shouldn't have hired the writer if they weren't going to use him in the first place. Of course, I guess Tatsuki only complained about that situation now due to how badly the project ended up.
Jaxon Evans
>Kaban and co. on their adventure stumble upon a Friend in need and help them
Sounds really consistent to me, user.
Austin Johnson
>same franchise
Franchise is an intellectually bankrupt argument, it's just arguing "the themes must be the same because it's Kemono Friends," which is circular argument and not a good one.
>same medium
All anime share the same medium. What kind of fucking argument even is this?
>same setting
Stories with vastly different stories can be told in the same setting; ie, a high school. You ignored this.
>It basically boils down to
It must be really easy to win arguments when you ignore 100% of the things other people actually say and replace them with a convenient straw man instead.
Eli Lee
>KF2 also has mysteries
not really
the series only kinda focuses on Kyururu
season 1 often had more elements being introduced throughout the series
Logan Powell
Yes it's consistent with the main promise of an adventure anime where stuff happens to main characters while they are trying to reach their goal.
Logan Hernandez
Yes, I agree.
Levi Roberts
>Kaban and Serval are on their way to the library, and have to pass by the lake
>Serval accidentally knocks over Beaver's framework for a house
>As an apology, they decide to help Beaver built her house
>House is built using via planning, execution, and by utilizing the unique traits of friends
It's a detour on Kaban and Serval's way and it illustrates the kind natures of the show's protagonists. It doesn't end up miraculously helping them towards their goal, like in KF2 where there just happened to be a working monorail/tractor near by. No MacGuffins, no Deus Ex Machinas, just natural progression and basic cause-and-effect.
Gavin Sanchez
They already ruined the two biggest mysteries anyway (Who is the angry friend? Why are these two tracking Kyururu? Who hired them?)
Alexander Gutierrez
I hate S2 with the fury of a thousands suns, but i love the friends I Get A Feeling So Complicate, why kadokawa why did you have to make S2....
Robert Lopez
She is a husky. When the design was first revealed long before the KF2 announcement she was explicitly labeled as one to differentiate her from the first domestic dog.
Dylan Sanders
How is the working monorail system not a deus ex machina? Literally none of the major forms of transportation around the park worked in KF1 and the ones that did they either had to have Lucky go fix it or they had to repair it themselves.
Jaxon Hughes
Rejected
Tyler Watson
Yeah, fun things happen on a fun adventure.
If there was a theme to KF anime (both seasons) it would be how humans are smarters than Friends.
Unique traits are just part of characters. They come in handy, sometimes, when needed, or when it's fun, but that's it.
Christopher Ross
I there a mop friend?
Michael Thompson
Yeah, that's what I meant. The no Deus Ex Machina part was referring to S1.
Michael Powell
Well, the colors are different, but aside from that it seems to be the same design.
Robert Rogers
They have working japari food producing machines so why not.
The cableway worked too (it wasn't automated though). The damn bus worked. And then they even had a functioning cafeteria.
Robert Gomez
Nope, this is the only other domestic dog friend.
John Butler
>If there was a theme to KF anime (both seasons) it would be how humans are smarters than Friends.
>Unique traits are just part of characters. They come in handy, sometimes, when needed, or when it's fun, but that's it.
Yikes
Jaxson Bennett
>the bus worked
They spent two whole episodes fixing that bus.
Joshua Hughes
>Deus Ex Machina
That's an exaggeration or more like nitpicking. It's really not appropriate to use words like deus ex machina for a simple anime like KF.
There is a ton of nitpicking to do for both seasons and it'll be just that, pointless nitpicking, it's not what makes a series awful.
Jonathan Stewart
Here's the art for the s2 domestic dog. It's the exact same artwork but recolored.
Jayden Taylor
just a dead battery, nothing particularly complicated
Kevin Foster
That's like saying the theme of both seasons is that friends are stronger than humans. Different friends are good at different things
Anthony Richardson
Japari buns were manufactured by the owls.
The cable car unavailable for her, forcing them to find another way up the mountain.
The bus was broken and out of fuel.
Cafeteria was solar powered and high atop a mountain, unreachable by ceruleans.
Luis Adams
>Japari buns were manufactured by the owls.
DOUBT
Jackson Cruz
It's not really appropriate to disclaim criticism you disagree with as nitpicking.
Wyatt Reyes
Except they literally said that the field outside the library was where the ingredients for Japari Buns are grown, and many animals make references to getting Japari Buns from the owls in exchange for services.
Michael Allen
It's only a criticism if it only criticises both seasons.
Otherise it's just nitpicking because both seasons present these (non-)issues to some degree.
Jace Brown
Japari buns we're made by lucky beasts as engineered by humans,to placate the friends so they don't eat meat.
Kayden Brown
that could be interpreted however you want
and they don't only have buns there
Jack Stewart
Idiot, the owls horde japari buns because they're smart, to bribe lesser animals. But they didn't make them.
Brayden Foster
You've literally defined everything that points out a difference between seasons as nitpicking because you know in your heart of hearts that they're basically the same. It's a circular argument, and a stupid one. You can say the same thing about ANY two anime which share a genre because their animation / plot isn't perfect and they've all got problems "to some degree."
Justin Barnes
Yes, but when the park fell to ruin, the owls picked up the slack.
My point is that is wrong about it being a magical convenient plot device.
Julian Howard
We are comparing two series of the same series so it makes no sense to criticise an aspect of one season if the same criticism can be made about the other season too.
Noah Cooper
Ryder Martin
>Yes, but when the park fell to ruin, the owls picked up the slack.
there is no way to know that...
the owls even said that they BORROWED a TINY BIT form the fields where this stuff is grown. which means it's not theirs.
also it doesn't explain where the rest of the food comes from.
Isaiah Evans
>kusowls stole park's property
are owls... evil
Adam Sanchez
There's good OOC and IC reasons for the Japari Bun process to continue working.
- OOC: without Japari Buns, carnivorous Friends would have to eat animals, eat each other, or simply starve to death, and that's not something anyone felt like putting into any iteration of the series.
- IC: Lucky Beasts have a mandate to preserve the basic existence of the park and if Japari Buns are needed for that that's what they're going to do.
If Kemono Friends 2 were literally a stick figure slideshow every single criticism you could make about KF2 would be true about KF1 (but KF1 had poor animation too!) but it wouldn't be intelligent. The fact that two anime are in the same franchise does not mean it makes "no sense" to compare what one did well and others did not.
If you want to claim that KF1 did everything that people complain about KF2 just as bad as KF2 did then make the fucking argument instead of just ignoring 100% of people's arguments because KF1 and KF2 must be the same therefore you're wrong.
Benjamin Sullivan
>Solid snake is in leopard print
Shouldn't he be wearing at least some snake-skin boots?
I mean jeez - the missed opportunities here.
Tyler Rogers
Can see it better from this angle
Aaron Price
Try not to cry
Cry a lot
Matthew Barnes
KF2 volume 3 BD on Amazon.
26 reviews. All of them are 1-star. Every single one.
What the fuck? Someone, anyone? It's been up on Amazon for weeks, nobody left any review higher than 1-star? Fucking no one?
I think this show really has reached the bottom now. The number of fans is at 0.
Alexander Gonzalez
>the owls even said that they BORROWED a TINY BIT form the fields where this stuff is grown. which means it's not theirs.
>ジャパリまんの原料を作る畑があるのですよ。そこからちょいです
The word "borrow" isn't in the original Japanese script. It could just as easily mean that they run the field, and are taking a bit from what is meant to be used for the good of everyone else for their own personal cooking use.
Anyway, looking it up on Japanese wikis, it's not actually clear who's making the buns, so I'll concede there.
David Miller
Beating the shit out of a dog and then abandoning her is too much
Getting rid of tatsuki is also too much
Robert Rogers
>If you want to claim that KF1 did everything that people complain about KF2 just as bad as KF2
Not everything, but most of the biggest exaggerated pseudo-issues, yeah.
I liked S1 more too but not for the same reason as people post here. Sometimes I just wonder if we watched the same series.
Lincoln Richardson
Stop posting gore, this is the Kemono Friends thread.
I will report you if you don't stop. Trolls need to leave.
Ayden Morgan
This is a raid. The BD set itself doesn't come out until fucking July so no honest individual would be leaving a review on it. Yes, Kemono Friends 2 is shit, SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIT, but that doesn't mean that a tiny selection of reviews on a product not released is representative of well, anything.
14% of people who watched KF2 on prime gave it 4 or more stars:
amazon.co.jp
And while 14% of people is not a large percentage, 14% of the people watching is far higher than zero in numeral count.
Jacob Parker
But other user told me this wasn't uncommon at all in this show and there's no controversy about dog getting beat up. Who am I to believe ?
Parker Rodriguez
>Not everything, but most of the biggest exaggerated pseudo-issues, yeah.
It's really convenient that you can roll up every criticism you don't like into a "pseudo-issue" and then dismiss them all out of hand without having to actually address a single one.
Ryder Morgan
It's not a raid user, it's a horde of really pissed off Japanese people angry at the studio for making such a shitty "sequel".
84% of people who satched KFW on Prime say it's shit, and while 84% is a large percentage of the people watching, it is far higher than zero in numeral count.
None of what you have brought up are arguments.
Lucas Garcia
>This is a raid.
HAHAHAHAHA
Ok, let's live in your pretend world for a second. We'll say all 26 are from raids, they're not real. They're from big meanies. You can have that in this pretend scenario.
So...
Why are there no good reviews? Fuck, I'm not even asking for 5-star reviews, where are the 4-stars, the 3-stars? "Raids" cannot delete good reviews. Even if it was "raided", there should still be a handful of good reviews from the fans, if such fans actually exist.
Explain please.
Benjamin Ward
>Why are there no good reviews?
The excuse I've seen them use in previous threads was "real KF2 fans don't use youtube / nico / amazon / Yea Forums / [the entire fucking internet] because they don't want to get caught in the "crossfire" (the crossfire of reality?). So their votes aren't factored in those metrics, and thus the results are biased.
Reality is biased.
Landon Butler
>Why are there no good reviews?
Because the kind of people who leave honest reviews on products are those who purchase a product and then report back on what they thought of the product. None of these honest reviewers have done any reviews for KF2 BD3 because that product does not actually reach the hands of consumers for months.
Brody Rivera
>address a single one
It's easy to address such criticisms by simply saying that season one had the same issues.
But again, it's only when you try to compare both seasons together.
If you just don't like certain aspects of S2 then it's cool.
If the monorail bothers you and you think it's too convenient then it's fine. It's true that it's too convenient.
Jordan Butler
>Why are there no good reviews?
Because reviewing anime is not something that common. You can look up any other anime of this season and many won't even have a single review, let alone having more than 10.
Angel Hill
>by simply saying that season one had the same issues.
And you could criticize a stick figure animation S2 by claiming that season one had animation issues but that would be stupid.
It's not enough to simply say that "season one had the same issues." In order for the statement to have any meaning at all you need to show that 1. it actually did have the same issues and 2. that the issues are comparable in scope.
Cameron Rodriguez
Is this season really that bad? Some artist on twitter can't shut up about it.
Cooper Bailey
People love to hate
They love it even more than they love to love, sometimes
Christian Ross
Only 400 people voted 1 in the ep9 nico survey. That's the lowest number the show has seen yet. (ep6 had 900, ep7 had 600, ep8 had 650). It's dropping fast.
The delusional KF2 defenders love to say "It's the haters! They're raiding it and bombing it with negative votes!". But that doesn't explain why the positive votes are *disappearing*. You can bring in as many negative voters as you want, but that won't delete the number of positive voters.
You can't use "haters" to explain the disappearance of positive votes. Those positive voters are disappearing and abandoning the show by their own choice. Because they finally accepted that it really is awful, just like you will soon.
Jason Long
Bullshit. Anime blurays get pre-release reviews all the time, because people have watched the episodes already.
Jordan Young
>Searches アニメ on Amazon DVD
amazon.co.jp
Hmmm....
Daniel Sullivan
Doggo is so punchable.
I want to step on her tail and pull her ears until she lets out a cute yelp.
Luis Ross
You're an idiot who can't understand why people hate it.
It really is that bad. Give it the three episode rule to determine if you like it or not, but I wouldn't recommend acknowledging its existence otherwise if you loved the Yaoyorozu anime.
Jacob Reed
oh no no no
Evan Watson
Ayden Hill
People still love the Friends and the VAs, but they absolutely hate the series and the people running it. It's really complicated.
Noah Turner
>1. it actually did have the same issues and 2. that the issues are comparable in scope.
I don't really need to.
But take the Deus Ex Machina thing. Those are pretty big words.
If the monorail is somehow a terrible deus ex machina then you'll be able to find the same "terrible" things in S1 too. It's really stupid and I don't believe a single thing I'm saying but Toki arriving at the right moment to haul Kaban's ass up the moutain would be a deus ex machina too by that definition. The whole Japari Food production facility would be a deus ex machina too if you go by that logic.
That's why I'm calling those exaggerated non-issues.
Jace Peterson
All the love people once had for KF1 has been transmuted into anger. The higher you climb, the farther you fall.
It's like witches.
>Bullshit. Anime blurays get pre-release reviews all the time, because people have watched the episodes already.
Kaguya BD 3: 1 review.
Wataten BD 3 (hell, Wataten BD 1): 0 reviews.
Shield BD 3: 0 reviews.
Neverland BD 3: 0 reviews.
Gotoubun BD 3: 0 reviews.
The correct number of honest reviews for an anime to receive at this point in time is zero.
Nathan Campbell
>Give it the three episode rule to determine if you like it or not
I disagree with this advice. This is the only show where I think "just staying away" is the best stance.
The first few episodes are bad, then it gets really fucking bad for ep 5-8. But you can still laugh at it and say "Haha, this shit is fucking bad". But episode 9 wipes the laugh off your face right away. It made me feel sick. I wish I didn't see it.
Nolan James
Search for actual anime titles of this season and you'll see only Manaria and maybe toubun no hanayome having around ~10 reviews.
Reviewing anime preorders isn't something people do usually.
Cameron Edwards
Never watched the first season. All I know about it is the dead penguin and that for some reason people in japan love it. I'm really curious so I'll probably marathon the first season this night.
Luke Rogers
>*Delusion intensifies*
Samuel Stewart
>Toki arriving at the right moment to haul Kaban's ass up the moutain would be a deus ex machina too by that definition.
It's foreshadowed at the end of the previous episode that Toki is nearby and following Kaban and Serval, because she intends to sing for them. Deus ex machina occurs when something appears without any foreshadowing whatsoever.
Andrew Jackson
Kemurikusa is directly involved in the KF drama. Those stats are inflated as fuck.
Ryan Cook
Yeah, god forbid someone introduce actual facts to the discussion.
Ryan Ramirez
But user, I thought anime this season didn't get reviews?
Do the rules change if it becomes inconvenient for your argument?
Nathan Hall
In general, the third BD of an anime does not get a review long before it's out. See also: Shield Hero, Kaguya, Wataten, Neverland, and Gotoubun, all of which have more viewers this season than KF2 and Kemurikusa combined and yet have a single review between them.
Jaxon Gutierrez
Shut the fuck up, and buy a DVD. It's currently at number 470 on Amazon anime BD sales. (But hey don't worry, I'm sure the other 469 titles above it were just "inflated as fuck", keeping KF2 away from its rightful #1 spot).
Leave a good rating while you're at it, because no one else will.
Dominic Williams
KF2's third BD includes episode 7,8,9. All of which have already aired. The viewers have had a chance to see all of the content of volume 3, and given it the proper rating in .
Is there a problem?
Evan Jackson
Anime not involved in drama and raids don't usually get many reviews, yes.
>You're an idiot who can't understand why people hate it.
People might be liking S1 more, yeah, I'd tend to agree with that.
But the whole "hate" thing is nothing but shitposting.
It's a huge meme around the Kadokawa/Tatsuki drama.
You can see it here too how this "hate" thing is shown by posting NicoNico reviews (which are as relevant as strawpolls spam you can see on Yea Forums), or amazon review bombing.
Alexander Hall
So have the episodes for Shield Hero BD 3, Kaguya BD 3, Wataten BD 3, Neverland BD 3, and Gotoubun BD3. And yet people have not piled reviews onto these shows.
>Is there a problem?
The problem is that you're treating KF2 and Kemurikusa like their number of reviews are the rule rather than the exception.
Samuel Scott
You will always be right in your fantasy world because if there are positive reviews or no reviews, to you it means people like it. And if there are negative reviews, they’re dishonest so it still means people like it.
Isaac Flores
Buy a DVD and screepcap the receipt. Prove you're invested in your defense.
Otherwise you're just LARPing, and you can stop posting.
Gabriel Evans
I've made an argument based on empirical evidence based on the number of reviews for other shows this season. You've made an argument based on, well, nothing. It's really rich of you to pretend that it's others who are living in the fantasy world.
Lucas Wood
I wish KF2 would stop existing so we could return to the happy, peaceful world Kemono Friends is supposed to be.
Leo Morgan
It was just a shadow that passed through in the very last second of the episode.
Jeremiah Johnson
How about you look at the first BD and not the third?
>inb4 some of them still have no reviews
No shit some things are just not popular or not the kind people will buy BDs for. Do I have to remind you how many BDs the first Kemono Friends anime sold? Fact is Kemono Friends is still a popular franchise and people care about it, that doesn’t mean they have to like the new anime.
Ayden Hall
In some sense the problem with a deus ex machina is the way that it feels unnatural and disrupts the plot. There are, in some sense, some of these in KF1. But there aren't that many. Of the friends who are critical in getting Kaban and company over obstacles (Jaguar, Toki, Sand Cat, Tsuchinoko, Owl, Silver Fox, and the hunters) every single one of them has a rather good reason for being where they are except Toki who was "just passing by." And Toki, in some sense, can be replaced by any Friend who can climb or fly (which are more likely to be encountered near a big-ass mountain pass.) Even the fact that Sand Cat has an access tunnel in her house which seems like mega bullshit makes sense if you consider that Sand Cat probably built her house over the access tunnel instead of the other way around.
Again, whether something is deus ex machina or not is hardly a science. But there are moments in KF2 that make you stop and go "wait what why" and in KF1 there really are not too many of these. People first piled into threads for KF S1 because it was a joke show with shitty animation, it's not like they set out to make the show look good or were militantly intent on ignoring plot holes. KF2 has these in spades.
Jayden Perry
How the argument always goes for KF2:
>It's bad, and this is why
>No! Haters are only twisting it to make it seem bad!
How the argument goes for any other anime:
>It's bad, and this is why
>No! It's good, and this is why!
KF2 fans never reach step 2. Even they can't find anything good to say about their show.
Austin Young
>Toki is still looking for her friends, and she will do it forever until she dies.
I must don't cry.
Cooper Russell
There's no need to defend anything, buddy.
I don't care about what professional futaba and niconico memelords think about the anime. I'm not a mindless bandwagoning bot. I don't need for the Internet to tell me what to not like.
I also don't care about Kadokawa, or Tatsuki, or anyone else involved. But I'm still fairly confident the series will sell well enough to not be considered a financial failure. Less than S1 sure, but definitely not a financial disaster.
Grayson Phillips
A Toki-shaped shadow.
Justin Cruz
>How about you look at the first BD and not the third?
I'm not arguing about the first BD. If somebody had pointed out "first BD has shit reviews" I wouldn't have said anything.
I responded because some chucklefuck specifically pointed to the prerelease reviews for a BD set that doesn't come out for FOUR MONTHS and claimed that the lack of positive reviews on it made it super extra exceptional.
Charles Ross
Wow, you sure listed a bunch of titles. Look at all those alphabet letters lined up!
Tell me since I don't read so good, are any of those other titles an anticipated sequel to the biggest anime of 2017? If no, I'm a little confused why you thought it was a good idea to type those letters on your keyed board.
James Evans
You have no argument. There’s nothing to review.
Chase Kelly
I can't believe you're still responding. Did 26 reviews make you that mad?
When you're sleeping tonight, try not to think of "26". Good thing the clock only goes up to 24.
26!
James Powell
>If no, I'm a little confused why you thought it was a good idea to type those letters on your keyed board.
Because it demonstrates that, in general, people do not leave reviews on the third BD set of an anime four months before it's released. Your claim that "WELL ITS A SEQUEL SO IT MUST BE DIFFERENT" is not founded in anything. I mean, it's an empirically testable claim. You could look for it. But you won't.
You're a riot.
I have been calling KF2 shit continuously in this thread and the last twenty threads, and have personally brought news over from KFC that makes KF2 look bad. This doesn't change the fact that you and the people jumping on your retarded BD3 bandwagon are fucking morons.
Gavin Ross
How it goes for normal anime discussions is:
>I don't like it because I don't like this and that...
>Okay, I like it myself but I respect your tastes.
or
>Okay, I don't like it either.
How it goes here:
>I don't like it because it has shit amazon reviews and nnd livestreams have bad scores and futata doesn't like it and fuck kadokawa
>O-okay...
Logan Myers
The first BD isn’t released yet either, you drooling retard. It doesn’t matter if it releases in a month or in 3 months, it’s the same fucking thing.
Henry Gutierrez
It's barely foreshadowing...
Or... wait a second... Toki's SHADOW.... foreSHADOWING...
Dude...
Dylan Foster
Stop replying to the Kimurafag, we have debunked the same points over and over over the threads and he keeps married with his imaginary narrative.
Christopher Foster
I know you're all having fun jabbing at this delusional guy desperately trying to defend the show, but stop and think for a second.
Treasure the time you spend arguing with this man. KF2 is going to be completely forgotten a month from now. No one will bother making these threads anymore. You won't even be able to gloat about sales numbers, because by the time they're out, these threads won't exist. Cherish it, savor it each time you write a shitpost reply to that man's delusion, because after a month you won't be able to enjoy it anymore.
Jeremiah Jones
>namedropping
see Also see
Josiah Gonzalez
Twenty six!
And they all line up like 11111111111111111111111111
Logan Collins
Or you now, maybe no one hates the other anime of this season and that’s why they don’t as many 1-star reviews.
Christopher King
Just for you, I checked other popular sequels. Gochuumon 2 BD 3 received no prerelease reviews. Attack on Titan S2 Vol. 2 received no prerelease reviews. Sword Art Online S2 BD 3 received no prerelease reviews. I gave up here, but if you want to find proof that there is actually some sort of "second season" exception you can do it yourself.
Then maybe the grand chucklefuck shouldn't have started this discussion with an argument that requires that the BD under analysis specifically be BD 3. Think about how much time we would have all saved.
Take your meds.
James Perez
Beep
Jason Reyes
Christopher Richardson
Hi. Let's talk about the topic of the thread.
What do you like about the show?
Or is your favorite part about the show the fact that it allows you to be a contrarian, to prove you're smarter than everyone else?
Connor Peterson
I never said that people loved KF2 or even that people don't generally hate KF2. I simply said that the lack of positive reviews on an unreleased BD3 is not unusual (which it isn't) and was piledriven by a retard brigade for my trouble.
Robert Collins
Quick math question
18+8?
Brayden Gomez
If an anime has no negative reviews it means no one hates it.
If an anime has no positive reviews it means no one likes it.
If an anime has no reviews at all like most of anime of this season, what does it mean.
This is the mind of a mindless drone.
Jeremiah Bennett
Take your meds.
Xavier King
YOU started this discussion about comparing the reviews for the third KF2 BD to the reviews for other BDs. All that user did is point out the bad reviews for the KF one. You’re mentally ill. Try to find a Madoka thread or something, you will feel at home with more people like you.
William Johnson
Alright, but you have to help me read the label.
It says take xx mg, but I can't see without my glasses.
I think the first digit is a 2, and second digit... I don't know it's kind of blurry. Kind of an upside-down "g"?
2, upside-down "g"?
Noah Gray
How it goes for normal anime discussions is:
>I don't like it because I don't like this and that...
>Okay, I like it myself but I respect your tastes.
or
>Okay, I don't like it either.
How it goes here:
>Tell me what you like about this anime RIGHT FUCKING NOW. Give me the rankings of characters and episodes in order of preference. Give me your three favourite scenes overall. Give me one favourite moment of each episode. Give me your opinion on the choice of VAs, the animation studio and the production staff. RIGHT NOW.
>W-what if I refu-
>RIGHT FUKCING NOW
Dominic Robinson
Chase Cook
>YOU started this discussion about comparing the reviews for the third KF2 BD to the reviews for other BDs.
The person who made the first post, , wrote: "What the fuck? Someone, anyone? It's been up on Amazon for weeks, nobody left any review higher than 1-star? Fucking no one?"
This post only makes sense if you're starting from the assumption that a "normal" anime airing this season, whose BD3 preorder has been up on Amazon for weeks, would "normally" have plenty of reviews ranging from 2-5 stars. This assumption is false, and I showed it was false by comparing it to various popular anime from this season.
And for some reason this triggered a bunch of retards who decided to militantly shout that it wasn't true.
Owen Ramirez
Why is mental illness so prevalent among kemonotards?
Camden Evans
>W-what if I refu-
Then we call you and your opinion unimportant and garbage.
Isaiah Collins
This thread was actually pretty okay until decided to shit the bed and bring all his friends with him.
Easton Foster
You're the one who said "people enjoy KF2".
That's an amazing claim, it's like saying "A tribe of humanoid lions lives in Antarctica"
That's really amazing, you've caught our imagination.
Of course we're going to start asking questions if you say "people enjoy KF2", because it's such an extraordinary claim.
>Wow, is that true? What do they like about the show! I need to know! Tell me!
You're on the forefront of a scientific breakthrough, don't leave us hanging.
Sebastian Bailey
heh, I didn't remember this happening
this is pretty cute
Dylan Cooper
>Not even a single positive post about KF2 above that one
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Blake Scott
Take your meds.
Bentley Collins
Run along back to your kemurikusa thread.
Sebastian Martinez
KF isn’t a ‘normal anime’. A lot of reviews means a lot of attention. A lot of negative reviews means that attention is negative. Why is it so hard for you to understand?
Aiden Smith
The worst part is that this is probably motion capture and it's still shit. Those motions are way too natural given the quality they put out
Jacob Rodriguez
>KF2 thread is ruined as soon as facts are posted
Thanks for confirming that you live in a dream world
Luis Hernandez
>KF isn’t a ‘normal anime’. A lot of reviews means a lot of attention. A lot of negative reviews means that attention is negative. Why is it so hard for you to understand?
I, like literally everyone else on earth, including Kimura and Hosoya and Masumoto and everyone else, am fully aware that KF2 has received a lot of negative attention. That's not interesting or remarkable or incorrect.
What IS incorrect is the claim by that the lack of reviews ranging from 2-5 stars on a BD 3 that won't be released for 4 months is surprising or exceptional.
Landon Garcia
But the dance at the end of the episode actually looked good, it should have just been a 3 minute video. Maybe they would be able to actually make decent looking crowds.
Lincoln Sanders
Where are the non 1-star reviews?
Wyatt Taylor
>You're the one who said "people enjoy KF2".
I never said that. The closest to defending KF2 I ever got was saying that I was mostly okay with how KF2 turned out. But otherwise, yeah, there are must be people out there who enjoy KF2, or at least don't "hate" it.
I als wouldn't generalise and use words like "people" and "we" and "them", etc, unlike a lot of memeers here.
Cooper Mitchell
>including Kimura and Hosoya and Masumoto and everyone else, am fully aware that KF2 has received a lot of negative attention
Have they actually commented about it? Besides Kimura complaining and blocking people on twitter.
Cameron Johnson
They clearly went in with the focus on getting the dance part the best looking out of the whole episode, before going back to their shitty quality for the rest of the series
Sebastian White
The same place the non 1-star reviews for every other BD3 for every show this season are: they generally don't exist because people generally don't review BD3s prior to release unless they have an axe to grind.
Levi Jackson
Get a load of this guy
Carter Ward
AFAIK Hosoya is also a block machine, I don't know about Masumoto's internet presence. But given the fact that they're presumably sentient human beings, they know what kind of reception KF2 is receiving.
David Reed
Shit, you still don’t understand. IF VIEWERS LIKED IT WOULD HAVE POSITIVE REVIEWS EVEN BEFORE RELEASE. That’s what happened to KF1, that’s what is happening to Kemurikusa. It makes no sense to compare it to an unpopular anime or to shonen jump shit that’s notorious for not selling BDs.
Joshua Edwards
Hosoya also said he loved episode 9 and watched it multiple times. I think he might be a legit psychotic.
Jacob Adams
>IF VIEWERS LIKED IT WOULD HAVE POSITIVE REVIEWS EVEN BEFORE RELEASE
Not always because again, rating anime isn't something people usually do.
They do it when "something" happens. Like some drama, or some hypebandwagoning, or some raiding.
Ayden Perry
You're telling me there are thousands of rabid haters ready to JUMP to give 26 (boo! twenty six!) 1-star reviews in a row.
But there wasn't a single rabid KF2 fan ready to jump and give a 5-star review? Not a single one? Why? By your moon logic, Kemurikusa has those rabid dishonest fans in . Where were the rabid fans for KF2?
I'll give you 20 minutes to think, don't rush. This isn't a race. No one is going to judge you. (I mean I will, but I'll be respectful and cover my mouth so you won't notice I'm laughing at you).
Austin King
I'm seriously worried now. This is not just some negativity it's about to break bad review records.
Franchise may really be fucked.
Nicholas Rodriguez
>he might be a legit psychotic.
Or... if you think that liking episode 9 makes you a psychotic, maybe you have a mental illness which is very common among kemonotards.
Isaac Myers
So every single opinion about KF2 is dishonest except yours, now I get it.
Noah Hill
user please, for your health, please stop replying to the redditor. There's no persuading him.
Angel Flores
>IF VIEWERS LIKED IT WOULD HAVE POSITIVE REVIEWS EVEN BEFORE RELEASE.
SAO II, Attack on Titan II, and Gochuumon?? also received no positive reviews on their BD3s before said BD3s were released. What is happening to Kemurikusa and KF2 is far from average.
>You're telling me there are thousands of rabid haters
If there were "thousands of rabid haters ready to give 1-star reviews" there would be thousands of 1-star reviews on BD3 right now. But there aren't. There are 26. I'd wager we could find 26 people willing to give KF2 a 1-star review in this thread alone.
>But there wasn't a single rabid KF2 fan ready to jump and give a 5-star review?
Sure. Why not? It's hardly surprising. Most series don't have rabid fans who jump to give 5-star reviews to BD3s months before they are released.
Liam Allen
WATASHI NO FAN?
Caleb Parker
Concern troll. The franchise is fine, ignore the raids.
Colton Butler
Where did you get that from.
It's obvious you have issues with English so no wonder you are only receptive to simple things like numbers, regardless of what they mean.
Jeremiah Allen
You're a little slow, aren't you? The word you're looking for is "tatsukifag".
Nathan Jackson
Are you sure that's the answer you want to go with? I gave you 20 minutes, you can take some more time if you want.
Daniel Gomez
A ryona fetish isn't healthy
Jeremiah Clark
>You can perfectly cosplay as a hippo.
>"I guess I'll just cosplay as Toki"
Nathan Thompson
I can't wait to see KF2 get 95% '5's. Kemono Friends 2 needs to stop existing and everyone involved needs a serious round of blacklisting from the industry, Mine included.
I just want KF to rest in peace at this point.
Cameron Lee
I have infinitely more posts on KFC than I do on Reddit and I've been posting on Yea Forums longer than you've legally been allowed to.
I think it's possible that Yukachi unironically thinks that Episode 9 was a decent episode and it sort of scares me.
Charles Johnson
Take your meds.
Jeremiah Phillips
>The franchise is fine
>games flopped
>anime is flopping
>manga non existent
>no figs announced
If KF3 underperforms it's over.
Mason Cox
Literally replying to bait. OR, replying to yourself.
Review-shitposting is nothing new though.
Ian Long
I'm not a subhuman namedropping dramafag though so no.
Wyatt Cook
Whoa, man, you can't say that. If you deny that the reviews on BD3 are anything other than irrefutable proof that Mine is about to be executed by the Yakuza you're an evil redditor concern troll who thinks KF2 is the greatest thing since sliced bread.
Colton Phillips
See
James Lewis
>repeating the same response
Please, please. Don't sabotage yourself like this. I want to keep going. Just take the 20 minutes and come up with a good answer. I'll pretend you didn't send that response, and I'll take your next post, then we can keep going.
Hudson Wright
I wasn't talking about you.
Benjamin Rodriguez
Has anybody else lost track on which shitposter is which?
Nathaniel Perry
Take your meds.
Justin Green
>If
When. KF3 is gonna have a rocky start especially because it's tied to KF2.
Ryder Wood
What I mean is that I refuse to use shitposting words such as "tats*ki" or "k*mura" or "m*ne".
Christopher Parker
Everyone you don't like is the same shitposter. If they look like they're arguing with each other it's actually the same person arguing with himself just to shit up the thread. It's the rules.
Jose Wilson
It has 27k twitter follows which is really not much for a mobage but then it's not even in preregistration I think.
Gavin Davis
I honestly believe it at this point
Logan Gomez
When KF2 threads start to die, everyone goes into a flying rage and there's no point telling who's what anymore. This thread was pretty good compared to the last couple until the end though.
Juan Lopez
Alright, if you're tired, I understand. You're at a disadvantage here, it's understandable if you want to back away and think up a better response.
I'll be back here tomorrow to post the updated Amazon ratings. And the next day. And the next day. We can talk then.
Tyler Martinez
Last time I checked talking about the people who were involved with KF1 and 2 isn't shitposting
Dylan Nguyen
Imagine being such an incredible fucking pussy that you have to take a whole day to prepare your response.
Jonathan Green
If I'm not here to do it someone please make a new thread with bird and doggy
Josiah Nelson
Talking about facts is shitposting, don't you know?
Reality is biased.
Jordan Martinez
REMEMBER
Cameron Barnes
Reddit/discord ban anyone who say anything bad about the show. So no.
Jordan Robinson
So yes. That's why they are here and not on reddit.
Jordan Howard
You’re completely impermeable to any argument, everything runs in circle in your little head. Anytime someone posts somethings that goes against your narrative you claim it’s manufactured by haters/trolls/memers/whatever boogeymen.
So in the eventuality you’re sincere and not just trolling, please shut the fuck up and stop shitting up threads with your mental delusions. If you’re simply trolling then see you next thread I guess.
Justin Reed
we'll all be here next thread
even when you want it to the ride never ends
Brandon Reed
Take your meds
Bentley Anderson
You are SEETHING
Henry Brown
He's shitted up the last 5 threads.
If he's a troll who hates KF2, then he's succeeding.
If he's a fan, then he should probably shut the fuck up.
Jaxson Long
If you don't like the thread then fuck off.
If you don't like people talking about KF in a KF thread then fuck off.
Jonathan Reyes
Yes, anyone who doesn't like this low budget CGI show is a literal redditor.
Zachary Garcia
>hating KF2 good
>not hating KF2 bad
This is you without your meds
Gabriel Ross
nobody has actually discussed any kemono friends in the last 50 posts
Isaiah Cox
I wonder what caused it.
Protip: it's , just like in every single thread so far
Connor Bennett
Or rather I should say, if he's a fan, then he's essentially a tool. Actual trolls are using him to shit up the entire thread with no effort on their part. Either way he's ruining the thread for everyone else.
Bentley Cruz
Making up meta-narratives about why every negative thing said about KF2 is fabricated isn’t ‘discussing KF’.
Camden Flores
>Our conversation about KF2 was ruined!
>"What happened?"
>Somebody posted facts!
>"God damnit, I hate when they do that"
Mason Ramirez
Based mewhan
Carson Bell
>EVERY negative thing about KF2
Constantly misrepresenting, exaggerating and misquoting posts is borderline trolling at this point.
Camden Perez
So what are the lyrics?
Brayden Wright
>which made her appearance in KF2 as the voice of Vampire Bat puzzling to many fans.
What????
Mason Murphy
>Making up meta-narratives about why every negative thing said about KF2 is fabricated isn’t ‘discussing KF’.
No, but it's very entertaining, so let him do it.
Soon, he'll have to come up with a meta-narrative to convince us that every thread isn't ruined by him.
Lincoln Gomez
One would hate to get in the way of all your Kemono Friends discussion.
Nicholas Hill
It's okke when a thread is dying
just hope the new one won't be like that until 450+ posts are made
Brody Barnes
Of course it’s an exaggeration you idiot. Do I also have to write ‘in my opinion’ in every sentence? Now you’re trying to deflect attention away from your trolling by pretending not to understand what a figure of speech is. This is pathetic.
Matthew Brooks
>endless cyclical shitposting, shrieking about sales numbers, and trying to figure out which of two turboautists are trolling whom are "facts"
Sorry but that's not very worthwhile discussion
Carter Rivera
That dog friend is cute.
Can't wait to watch her episodie today.
Must be really heart warming.
Charles Lopez
>Someone posts facts that are inconvenient to my delusions
No! Don't discuss those! They're not worthwhile!
Ayden Jones
>Same eye color as wolf
Bravo Mine BRAVO
Jayden Jones
Reversed actually
Wyatt Baker
Last for depression
Julian Wright
I've never seen anyone here say that they liked S2 more than S1 or how S2 is flawless.
But anytime a post doesn't completely shit on S2, it'll be misquoted and turned upside down to make it look like it says that S2 is the most perfect anime ever made.
Words like "some" will get misquoted into "every". "Sometimes" will become "Always", etc...
Ayden Richardson
There's no use arguing when we all know that KF2 is objectively bad. Let's talk about something else.
William Gray
Guys, the friends taught us to be accepting to all. Even a shitty second season. You're gonna make all these new friends sad.
Cameron Phillips
But the new friends are a bunch of jerks except for doggo
Jace Lee
There were jerk friends in the first season too! But it takes all colors to make a rainbow!
James Carter
>There's no use arguing when we all know that KF2 is objectively bad.
It's really true. Everyone knows it's bad. That's why the weird phenomenon in happens.
In any other show the default starting position of an argument is "neutral", and then swings from good to bad. For KF2, both sides recognize that the default position is "bad". So the argument (as we've just seen) is just a battle between "it really is bad" vs "it only looks bad because people are twisting it that way".
Gabriel Edwards
let's talk about all the things that could reasonably be termed "convenient coincidences" in S1
- the disaster that smashed the bridge and broke the bus left the tires, gearshaft, and drivetrain of the japari bus intact
- toki just happened to be passing by when kaban needed to get up the mountain
- the sandstorm just happened to dump serval onto the one person in the desert who knows where the tunnel is
- the foxes just happened to find serval and kaban while they were busy freezing to death
i'm out, anyone got anything else
Adrian Sanders
There's no argument to have when someone says they like or dislike something.
What we do here is "stop liking things I hate" and "stop hating things I like".
Brayden Powell
As someone who didn't expect the second season to live up to the first, I am impressed at how different it is, the budget quality, and all the new friends. And the season 1 friends making sometimes episode long cameos are amazing.
Isaiah Russell
>There's no argument to have when someone says they like or dislike something.
The normal next thing to say is "why did you like / dislike that thing" unless the purpose of threads is just to serve as a poll to see how many people liked / disliked the thing.
*twitch*
Ian Butler
Hi! What do you guys like about the show?