Well this sucked

Of fucking course I am expressing a personal opinion.
But while in general I can accept that a highly regarded anime that I dislike just isn't for me, I am usually able to guess what people may like about it.
Here on the other hand I can't for the life of me wrap my head around how this has garnered a cult following, since not even empathy can aid me in recognizing anything striking, nuanced or resonating about it.
Is it the plot? Is it the themes? Is it the atmosphere? What's so good about it? I am genuinely curious. I don't like being contrarian for the sake of it.

So did you suck my dicc, but here we are.

because Yea Forums said so!

>I am expressing a personal opinion
so you recognize your opinion as being an opinion, but not of that as a preference? there's a distinction between the two: you'd have evidence from a thing to support a personal viewpoint, therefore an opinion, whereas a preference is your unconscious reference point you agree with based on general exposure to other things - it is what you personally bring to the table when engaging something, whatever it is, and is not a conscious opinion you've dissected

>I can't for the life of me wrap my head around how this has garnered a cult following
take a while to consider it then - what particularly about it would be striking, nuanced or resonating to someone or anyone? some times this may require external knowledge of various ideas and information, stuff you wouldn't come by in your day-to-day life.

consider, for example, the character of yoshii. he's very well liked by the texh fanbase - why? his actions cause chaos in a dead, alien world, a world mostly devoid of any action - because the entirety of the world he's acting in is devoid of hope that their actions could change anything of their current circumstances. he acts as an agent of action and change, a being that recognizes its own ability to exert influence upon the world rather than act in accordance to its routines, which is what he was resisting in his life on the overworld. despite his psychotic behavior, he tries to become a symbol of hope and resistance against evolutionary fatalism - he fails, as the world presented is simply not salvageable, since evolution has lead to a dead end in human development. some consider him an idiot, some consider him a tragic character - the point is is that they've recognized what he is, and then applied their personal feelings about what he is to their opinion, rather than substituting their preferences into the place of a proper opinion.

>it's animated. whether or not you personally prefer the range of motion the animation displayed is entirely irrelevant, the point is that it's animated.
Not even that guy, but I've already stopped reading here. This is an incredibly weak defence.

This is a quality post, thanks for taking the time to write this. Texh is probably my favorite anime, the ending was just so beautiful i m o.

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Dumb fucking thread by a dumb fucking cunt

I remember liking this when I was a teenager
It was one of the few dark and gritty anime out at the time
Scratched that particular itch
But I tried showing it to a friend and its mostly silent vista shots with some water drop noises overlayed

The plot gets kind of garbage in the middle since our pissed off bare knuckle fighter decided to let a dude fuck him for no apparent reason and the revenge stuff gets obscured with just random underground political drama

And the trip to the surface tries so hard to be obscure and artistic that its just mostly humorous garbage while you watch a bunch of quiet wallflower characters walk by stacked chairs or something stupid

The blooper reel was good, Goku's VA was in there cracking jokes

Old good, new bad. That's it, really.
If it's an old anime, chances are it's going to be praised despite the show actually being garbage.

I'll have to rewatch the series and give it a good analytical lick that I never was able to give it 10+ years ago

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What next, you're going to tell me Angel's Egg wasn't a masterpiece either?

I can't believe you entered an argument with these fucks. The only people responding to your thread are quasi-intellectual man children who don't know the first thing about writing, direction and themes.
Yes, Texhnolyze sucked on every level possible. Only shitposting defenders go to these threads, like I said. Give this show to any sane person with a good sense of quality and they'll rip it apart.
I too gave this show a fair and enthusiastic chance and all it did is turn from a shit quality burrito into diarrhea.
Dont give them reasons why it sucked, that's a mistake. It'll only give them a subject to argue against.
Instead demand they explain in detail why it's good, oh boy I'd like to hear that.
That dear user is not an explanation of why an anime is good. It's simply you taking one character and a few ideas between the lines and explaining their symbolism. Symbolism, corresponding logic to it and and dense messages do not make a work or art and fiction good or even passable for that matter.

Try again.

im gonna have to genuflect and say that i don't like texhnolyze: nothing about it particularly resonated to me since the presumption of a evolutionary fatalistic world is something far too detached from reality for me to be able to enjoy properly

a dying world has a lack of movement in its animation, kind of like how a barren wasteland has nothing happening in it

No I like that one quite a bit actually

>it's supposed to feel dull and unengaging
Guess I will have to scratch that from the list of things I enjoy in animation

>quasi-intellectual man children
>disregards actual attempts at discussion with namecalling
>"shit quality burrito into diarrhea" (lol)
>appealing to authority

"explanation of why an anime is good", "taking one character and a few ideas between the lines", "dense messages", you literally didn't read my post, you fucking epic gamer

and not only that, you're literally incapable of providing an argument - your entire stance is based on this nebulous assumption that the show is bad. why? "because other people said so", "it's so blatantly bad dude holy shit", "you have to be mentally deficient to enjoy this", "only manchildren enjoy this"

i don't know what to say to this post as an entirety - it seems you look for an objective, universal, timeless value from a piece of art, that tries to view said art from this vacuum outside time and space without regards to ANYTHING. take the logical conclusion to this mindset, go on, do it: what conclusion do you arrive at? "block a must fit into hole a for this system to work perfectly", "x must correlate to y", as though fiction is a fucking mathematical system, and not something to derive meaning from.

fuck off.

you know nothing about animation, unfortunately

>"block a must fit into hole a for this system to work perfectly", "x must correlate to y", as though fiction is a fucking mathematical system,
Are you high? You're definitely on something, I can tell.
Let me remind you of something:
OP demanded (You) faggots "provide an argument" of why it's good. All of you failed to do so an instead wasted your time arguing against his own arguments, how it doesn't suck for his said reasons, etc.
Now do us all a favor and explain why its good. I mean who knows, maybe you'll manage to change our minds and we all fly back and watch it again in a new light. I'd love to go "wow, fuck me user was right, this is actually good" and not stare at a bunch of empty scenes of unimportant meetings of stupid shitters and pointless banter than means nothing and leads to nothing. Thank God I have you to educate me, you can start now, I'm listening.

>Well this sucked.
Kill yourself retard

yoshi was based

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I agree with you, OP. Texhnolyze is usually lumped in with a lot of other anime I've enjoyed over the years so I watched it recently but didn't enjoy it at all. It didn't have an interesting story until near the end and there was nothing else in it that I could find that was appealing. People complain about plotfags but if you don't have anything else to grab onto and enjoy then there's a problem.

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It's poorly directed anime.
I don't dislike the setting, characters, music or designs, but the directing was awful.

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Music was good, but I don't see how designs can get more generic than that

You're such a pretentious moron.

>the fanbase likes yoshii because he moves the plot forward
Mindblowing

>Story and character have literally nothing interesting to offer for a good part in the show and need to rely on symbolism and shock factor to get the viewer interested which is empty and boring as fuck
>The message and theme is so convoluted that not even other works with Abe involved were as hard to grasp
But people will still defend this shit.

People like it because it has nihilistic themes that resonate with them and they appreciate the bleak atmosphere of it. They also forget the boring parts and focus on the best ones. It's no masterpiece but it's uniqueness garnered it a niche cult following.

>Symbolism, corresponding logic to it and and dense messages do not make a work or art and fiction good or even passable for that matter.
You're right. Nothing can prove that an anime is objectively good. The best one can do is provide their own reasons for liking it, which is exactly what he did. Maybe put some more effort in the next time you decide to be a pseud.

these are generic?

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>list of adjectives
compelling

>Barely animated

I'll concede that there are a fair number of still shots, but the animation quality is consistent and of high quality.

>uninspired direction

This is perhaps your weakest criticism.The first episode contains virtually no dialogue, opting instead to establish the setting and atmosphere with oblique shots of ceiling fans and heavy breathing. This is certainly abnormal and maybe even alienating to general audiences, but it's far from uninspired.

>uninteresting art style

ABe is a fantastic character designer. Texhnolyze's art direction, particularly it's environmental design is bold and extremely distinct, approaching the avant garde. Environment's frequently make reference, both visually and thematically to 20th century painters like Edward Hopper. There is a lot going on in the art in Texhnolyze. If you find it droll, depressive, or simply not to your taste, that's perfectly valid. If you find it uninspired; however, you are simply not looking closely enough.

>flat and played-out setting

This is purely up to taste. For what it's worth, here is a video which encapsulates one part of Texhnoyze's world which I find particularly compelling:

youtube.com/watch?v=lK47Azd6OO8

>terrible pacing

I'll give you this one. I don't mind and even appreciate Texhnolyze's deliberate pacing, but an anime featuring an entire episode centered around the protagonist quest to ascend a staircase is not for everyone.

>boring characters

Doc, Onishi, and Yoshii are each incredibly compelling and well fleshed out in their own rights.

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>terrible pacing
>I'll give you this one.

No fuck that, don't give him shit. Watching garbage anime has conditioned him to only enjoy things that move a mile a minute. He clearly has no basis in film knowledge or appreciation of film as art.

If anything, anime needs more deliberately and meditatively paced shows that aren't rushing to cram an entire film within 23mins.

Texhnolyize is shit at doing what it's trying to do. Being slow paced and a pastiche of certain types of films doesn't make something good. In fact Texhnolyze seems to me an example showing that you can't just imitate good things and expect what you make to be good too.

no said slow is automatically good autist. the point is it doesn't have to cater to the average pacing because people want to watch the same shit. what is texhnolyze imitating anyway?

>what is texhnolyze imitating anyway?
All those films that you say that user doesn't have knowledge or appreciation for. Slow and methodical films with interesting directing. Not one in particular.

I like myself a slow burn but good slow films usually have something to keep you engaged.
This has nothing going for it. And yet you tall about it like it's out1 while I would rather watch capeshit.
Get your head out of your ass.

Because you're gay.

>uninspired direction
>uninteresting art style
>flat and played-out setting
>terrible pacing

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Good, now watch the real ABe kino

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It was ever considered one?

Will do, but now I'm sceptical