Kaguya

Reminder that Fuji's IQ is 130+ and you should love her because she's teetering on the edge of sanity

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KAWAII

>Oh my MPD
>After I kiss Shirogane, take over my body
Sasuga Aka

Same here
The only reason I keep on watching it are the girls, specially Kaguya
But then again, that's like 80% of all anime to me

She really is a politician's daughter

Why is the reading order from left to right and not right to left? This is triggers me.

Asking important questions.

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Ice Kaguya really wouldn't mind if Shirogane took over her body, as it were.

It is right to left. The first box is a continuation of text from the panel before.

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that was right to left im pretty sure, if you look at the previous panel

Kaguya's eyes!

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I am not sure

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Reading this left to right is so wonderfully retarded
>I'll... I'll call you back!
>Okay...
>Why don't we meet in front of Hachiko at 11 tomorrow?
>It's not fine at all!
>My phone is waterproof.

>My phone is waterproof
kek

Brehs why are Kaguya and Chika top-tier waifus? I can't decide which is best girl.

thank you

Moist
rubies

Why do nips go insane over cat ears?

Sorry Iinofags but Tsubame is hotter

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>Brehs why are Kaguya and Hayasaka top-tier waifus? I can't decide which is best girl.
FTFY

The advantage of being a grown up woman vs midget

>Brehs why are Onodera and Fujiwara top-tier waifus? I can't decide which is best girl.
You both fucked up.

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>Brehs why are Lino and Kashiwagi top-tier waifus? I can't decide which is best girl.
Sorry for so many mistakes.
My first time on 4channel

This is 100% correct and whoever edits it is a giant fag.

Literally who

Ishigami's future girlfriend

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I LOVE IRISH PEOPLE!!

She reminds me about Anjou-san, are they similar?

Correct

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How many chapters until the Christmas party? I think Kaguya and Prez talking will drag on for 2 chapters and then there'll be 2 or more chapters for the day before the party. Meaning it'll still be another month before the actual party.

/thread

Is this samefagging or just regular old shit taste?

Nope, not similar. Tsubame is a minor character and is just generic nice popular girl number infinity who ishigami likes because she's nice. Tsubamekeks either self insert the fuck out of ishigami or they're just raging antimikofags, or both.

Mangafags being upset about Chika being the best girl in the anime

Heh, How was Chika's soda?

Kaguya's womb is about to get pumped full of Prez' semen

>Kaguya's glare

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join le discord server lets be frens
/X8yFe7q

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I don't like this translation. The best one is:
>Kaguya-sama, you are talking with a naked man right now.

Needs more O Kawaii.

Maybe but Iino is the cutest

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No, that's Bakaguya, by a landslide.

Dead people don't count

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Just you wait, she's going to ressurrect at the least expected moment, because you can't let Iceguya handle stuff all the time or we'd be in stalemate hell.

I want to humilliate Miko Iino

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God I wish that were me

It's funny that Miko is imagining herself defending the rule breakers here.

She has been defending Ishigami all the time. That ungrateful jerk!

no

Ishigami doesn't know he's being defended. It'd have helped him far more if he knew someone had his back. Miko is being very stupid with that. So is Ishigami, I suppose.

Why does this make me laugh so much?

Ishi doesn't know that she has being defending him ever since Kyoko incident.

For

I still think she'd look better with silver hair instead of blonde.

That's rather my point. Ishigami was losing faith in humanity and thought no one cared. By trying to be selfless, Miko left him to wallow in that impression. She could've helped him like Prez did, if she chose to. Of course, Ishigami would also have probably helped her more if he wasn't just a secret white knight.

you are just at that age

In the end, prez had to step in and fix their retarded messes of personal issues.

Maybe the scans were flipped for retards that can't take right to left

Next volume's cover. Real cute shit.

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Hey buddy I think you got the wrong door, the reddit club's two blocks down

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t, Kaguya

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It looks strange compared to previous volumes

Pfff

Yep. Ishigami and Miko's "helping the other secretly" thing is dumb shit and they should stop with that. So, when do you think either of them will realize or confess to that?

It's pretty implied that the encouragment phrase and the flower was from Ishigami so they have been supporting each other in secret
It's just they just don't want the other to feel in debt

The colors indicate that those are their own hearts that they're nervous about offering. If the colors were switched, they'd both be holding on tight so as to never let go.

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Fuck you redditman

When are Ishigami and Miko going to impregnate each other?

Nice post Aka, very cool. I love Japanese people.

>It's just they just don't want the other to feel in debt
Yes, and that's the problem. Miko never receives direct support from Ishigami, no real advice. Ishigami essentially felt isolated from humanity and never knew someone was standing up for him. He could have used an actual friend. The concept seems noble in theory, but it means that the two are denied awareness of that support and the comfort that could bring.

How Will Kaguya deliver the 9 children Shirogane wants? Will she ask Hayasaka for help?

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>impregnate each other
That's not how biology works

They'll do it secretly. Neither will know the father of their children.

I thought there was no chapter this week?

I think it's awesome this is the second cover that's not a portrait-style illustration of one or more characters with the "confess" kanji heart over a/the character's eye, since Volume 10's cover with the Student Council.

>Date

Ah, yes I see now.

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This is from the February 7th issue, you can see the issue # blurb is the lower right corner.

Good Healthcare and fertility treatments.

I'm no expert, but I have seen several doujins with pregnant boys so I must claim that you're wrong.

>Will she ask Hayasaka for help?
Maybe

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>2019.2.7

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I laugh

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It is natural in high class families to fuck the maid.

Explain please

Hayasaka barely understands how romance works, no way she'd be able to handle sex.

I finally caught up and it's absolutely hysterical how she's the purest character out of everyone; she's not twisted like Kaguya, not as young as Iino, and...she's not Fujiwara.

Kaguya is going to give her so much shit when she falls in love as payback.

> Hayasaka barely understands how romance works, no way she'd be able to handle sex.
But knowing these things is her job. She gets paid good money to know what dick tastes like so she can tell Kaguya that it's gross and no good for her.

That's why they have to tackle it together in a safe enviroment. For that purpose, Shorgane is ideal.

She literaly has gyaru friends
There is no way she doesn't know how sex work

this. looks like a whole different series

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Yeah while Miko is literally a slut who would go out with anyone that tells her she's cute.

weiner

>It is natural in high class families to fuck the maid.

> Kaguya asks Hayasaka to cosplay for Prez

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Gyaru are pure! Pure!

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If he marries Kaguya, all that belongs to her will belong to Shirogane as well. That, of course, includes Hayasaka.

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>"Ok,
"Ok Hayasaka, prez and I are going to have sex so I need to you to have sex and teach me how its done"

And thus, a new doujin.

If I take off the ribbon, will she die?

My wife Kaguya

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someone should draw Prez as Biggus Dickus next

>President Shirogane, Kaguya-sama told me that i should teach you some moves for the next
>It's my duty as a big sister and as a maid to do whatever she wants

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>Hayasaka steps in to bear Kaguya's children
>they are still born with Hayasaka's DNA
>Hayasaka's genetic children are now within the main Shinomiya bloodline
>they liberate their clan from the shackles of servitude to Shinomiyas
Who the fuck needs romance, right?

BIGGUS DICKUS (aka Fujiwara)

>Implying Hayasaka genes wouldn't serve to each Shinomiya genes as maid/butler

But she's already Pontius Pilate?

those child bearing hips... damn...

>Kaguya will demand Shirogane to impreganate Hayasaka first so she knows how pregnancy must be handled
>President will have to breed the maid daily until she's succesfully impregnated

Stop using Hayasaka for your weird NTR fetishes

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>BIGGUS DICKUS (aka Fujiwara)

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Is not NTR if they are sisters, user. A proper big sister must ensure her imouto's happiness, even in bed.

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> Shinomiya genes
> Hayasaka mitochondria
Poor maid can't ever catch a break.

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They're only half-sisters. Get your facts straight.

You now realize that Kaguya's head is fuckhuge compared to the president's

Must Maki continue to suffer for our entertainment?

Yes

Yes, absolutely.

he has a wife, you know

How long will it take them to awkwardly share a bed together again?

Maki's whole characters is being a AU Kaguya after losing Prez to another girl

>President will have to breed the maid daily until she's succesfully impregnated

> Prez has to breed Hayasaka and Kaguya to the point where they have two baseball teams that can play against each other

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I like the way you think.

>ishigami and lino's firstborn is the referee

>Last chapter is a post time skip baseball match at Stanford

> Chika's children are all semen demon cheerleaders

Kek
e
k

Better fucking stop now or else...

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>ishigami and tsubame
fixed

Titty midget or Titty sempai, that is the question.

...So let's see.

>Combine Shirogane's work ethic, ability to adapt on the fly, and his lack of physical ability.

With

>Kaguya's wealth and influence, her ruthlessness and intelligence, and natural talent

Guys, their children might actually conquer Japan if they're allowed to reproduce...

"Or?"

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Basically Japanese Augustus. God help us.

*blocks your path*

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Didn't she actually call it 4p? Who else did she expect to be invited to fuck Ishigami?

Imagine being their kid and having to live up to the standards they set.

Onodera. It's almost like Iino browses Yea Forums and believes all the Ishigami harem posts are real.

Why not both?

>Bumbling but loving Shirogane papa who supports you no matter what
>Ara ara Kaguya mama to teach you how to succeed in life
>Loving parents who evidently cherish each other
I wish.

>and his lack of physical ability

que? it's the opposite

> being raised by parents
but the point of kids is to have them raise your other kids.

Think about it. Regardless of the choice, the paizuri is guaranteed.

Listening motivational audios with Priestess!

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What happens if you bully Iino with praise, non stop?

Something like this

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>Shirogane ends up being just as embarrassing as his father.
>Kaguya would be a fierce education mama who accepts nothing less than A's (Look at her tutoring Ishigami)

The kid would be just as neurotic as his parents given their own flaws.

>ishigami realises he loves lino
>records one of these himself and puts it on her phone
You know he'd do something like that.

That would be fucking creepy as hell. But it might be just creepy enough to work.

>The soothing sounds of stud was recorded by Ishigami in order to encourage Iino
>Iino has been masturbating to Ishigami's voice all this time

What's she listening to?

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She's already been masturbating to his letter.

Shirogane sucks at everything but academics, while Kaguya is great at everything.

So it depends on which side of the gene pool the kid swims in.

Some user saying Lino

The disturbing part is that I can see that working...

>Tfw you realize both primary couples are somewhat mentally unstable in some way.

Love truly is War...

It was actually a reference to the recent chapter when Ishigami says that manga in "Middle Jump" are allowed sex scenes if they're only 4 pages. He used the term "4p" and readers thought he was saying foursome. So, Aka did it as a throwback to that.

Is almost like she's subconsciously hoping he manhandles her.

She'd almost certainly think he was making fun of her and freak out. But if she were somehow convinced he was not, she'd listen to it on loop in a blissed-out haze.

Their kids will be disappointments and suck.

Ishigami is pure, he shouldn't get with the crazy midget

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>Marry Tsubame-senpai
>Have Iino as a mistress
Sounds good to me.

If Prez is so smart then why doesn't he understand how women think?

Because no matter how smart he is, he's still a man.

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And she also masturbated to an actor who looks very similar to Ishigami.

That letter is one big red herring. It isn't from him

How could he understand the thought processes of someone who doesn't even know them herself?

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Isn't the chapter named after Ishigami despite him never making a single appearance in it anywhere?
Add the flower pendant.

Iceguya wants to be eaten by the president. Should she tempt him?

She masturbated with that too? I wasn't aware.

It's just from Osaragi. She figures she lost the moment to bring the truth up without it being awkward.

even women don't understand how women think.

I'm sure she will eventually.

>implying iceguya isn't the one that's going to bring us out of stalemate

I can't really see Aka pulling that off in a way that doesn't make it seem like a stupid cop-out,

Can her lust really be satiated? Or will Ishigami have to resort to daily lovemaking so Iino can function?

He's the master of subverting romcom tropes, as they say

She will be an unstopable sex machine
Once she gets to taste Ishigami's cock she will never stop

Only in the sense that he designed the story with progression in mind.
That probably wouldn't hurt, but what she really needs is emotional support. Sex is no substitute on its own.

Once the realization that she spent her teen years masturbating to him endlessly hits her, she will be past the point of no return. Hope they get used to daily babymaking.

I don't really see it as "subverting romcom tropes". Just seems like he would be throwing out his own foreshadowing, for no other reason than to say to observant readers, "Haha, I tricked you!".

Which would be stupid.

I recall there was a woman who abused the fuck out of fertility meds and got octuplets. If Kaguya plays it right she can get the whole baseball team in one go. Or she could go the artificial womb route and mass produce mini-miyukis that way.

Who would the baby presidents resemble more? Kaguya or Shirogane?

Trust no one...

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not even yourself.

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Kaguya genes will submit to his aryan ones because they're kinky like their person.

Her brother.

KING CRIMSON!

Chika isn't a 2hu user

>implying Kaguya will allow even a single drop of presidential semen flow into a cheap rented womb
It belongs to her. With leglocking to ensure impregnation.

There, now it's relevant to the manga.

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Kek
Make ice's gun a gavel

Nice

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Iino will probably fall in love with him during the christmas party, since that event is being set up as a big deal
as for him, probably just before being confessed to by tsubame

>muh subversion, aka clearly won’t go with the choice that’s foreshadowed and makes the most narrative sense because SUBVERSION
Fuck off, this manga doesn’t subvert romcom stuff at all and has plenty of tropes, it just utilizes them well and has actual steady character progression unlike most romcoms and haremshit. Have we really reached a point where having good characters means “ITS A SUBVERSION OF THE TROPES” because that’s fucking pathetic.

Normal human beans wearing toy nekomimi are cancer.

Honestly, the story takes itself seriously enough that I don't expect any half-assed twists like that. There's also no narrative function to the flower not being Ishigami's. It's not like it was a love confession or anything.

We know that Ishigami likes to play the dark whiteknight from the shadows, and that he has done so for Miko. The flower is just tangible evidence of an ongoing behavior. The flower not being his wouldn't change the other shit he's done, that Miko would respond similarly to if she understood, so it may as well be his. There's no point to it not being his.
I wasn't talking about falling in love, but not keeping stupid secrets. Ishigami and Miko both needed more emotional support than they got, but were too busy basking in the righteousness of helping the other without expecting any reward that they failed to do any such thing.

I don't believe that, the stomach bulge would be two times bigger in any direction. It would break the women apart. Even if she lives she will still look like an abomination AFTER the skin removal surgery.

Oh, then it's the same answer as to "When will Prez and Kaguya stop being deficient morons and just confess".

She's already in love with him, she's just waiting to see if he gets rejected.

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Google it user. It happened.

Her real name is Fujiwara no Mokou

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So, how's that going to spin into a comedy? Trying to prove that the other has been being secretly nice to them the whole time?

Eh, more like actively trying not to get found out while still helping the other the best they can, and fucking up because of it

This, we’ve even seen an example of this already with the headphones chapter.

She can barely tolerate him atm. As far as she knows, he's just a lazy rule breaker and she's completely unaware how thoughtful he actually is.

I have no doubt they'll fall in love, the seeds for it have been planted, but they're basically where Shirogane and Kaguya were in their freshman year.

I mean, that works, but there's no development unless one or the other starts to catch on.

Hence Iino discovering he was the one who left her that letter in middle school, at which point she tries to force him to admit it.

>but they're basically where Shirogane and Kaguya were in their freshman year.
Prez fell for Kaguya at the very first sight.
It's about as different as it gets.

First she'll have the toubuns. Then she'll have the colors, and then a mini-Miyuki to rule them all.

And Ishigami already respects Iino's work ethic and looks out for her without her knowledge, even if he doesn't like how pushy she is.

But trying to force him to admit it would look like she desperately wanted it to be him!

Well yeah, you can say the exact same thing about prez and kaguya - there’s no progress until they start to get over their pride and be more honest with themselves. Something similar will happen here, where they slowly see more hints of the other’s actions, without knowing the full extent of everything they’ve done at first. The after party chapter had a little bit of progress with ishigami openly helping iino out and her thanking him for it. Basically this kind of thing is going to happen more often from here on out.

Sure, but he doesn't have a crush on her. They're fairly different dynamics.

Hence, we get a whole year of them trying to beat around the bush and not directly address the elephant in the room. Romcom shennanigans.

Why kaichou likes that uptight flat chested girl when Chika is right there and she's better in every way.

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>when Chika is right there
But you said it yourself user, she isn't flat.

Fujiwara is obnoxious

And that's fine, they should have their own dynamic separate from Shirogane and Kaguya and their own relationship progression.

It'd feel cheap if they had the same exact dynamic and progression.

All I'm saying is that they're far from being in love with each other atm.

She's a dirty cheater.

She fucks on the first date

>and she's better in every way
>in every way
>every

I think Miko is approaching that point. She's already emotionally invested in him more than most people, and her interest lingered too long on that pendant. I don't think the same goes for Ishigami, though.

Okawaii koto

Ishigami is going to get rejected by Tsubame right?

Name 1 way in which she's inferior to Kaguya. She isn't a chestlet, is smart, fast, athletic, fashionable, twice as cunning and WAY cuter. She also isn't obsessed with some faggot workaholic loser. Kagyua literally cannot compete.

Can't be rejected if he didn't confess

Love triangle maybe? Things seem to be going good between Ishigami and Tsubame.

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“I see, so you don’t have time for the flower viewing. Oh well!”

I legitimately feel bad for Kaguya. She has to compete with best girl everyday.

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Kaguya isn't a psychopath.

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>bumbled his way into an accidental confession by being a moron and out of the loop
>tsubame takes it seriously but was about to reject him until giving him some time at the last minute. Has very valid reasons for not wanting to go out with someone
>still doesn’t understand the hearts meaning while everyone except him thinks he confessed to tsubame
Nice job ishigami.
The interactions between these two have been disastrous and riddled with misunderstandings. That doesn’t sound like going well at all.

But clearing it up would be cathartic~

He actually found out about the heart's significance later on and almost freaked out about it. He convinced himself though that it wasn't a "real" confession.

The problem is that he still hasn't cleared things up.

She's mainly invested due to being work colleagues. But I get you.

Think her discovering he left her the letter would seal the deal. The next mystery though is why he left the letter.

>even if he doesn't like how pushy she is.
Which makes all the difference.
Obnoxious secondary character shippers should go and stay go.

wtf Chika isn't a psychopath
Don't trust anything the narrator says

It's implied that she was already invested and has been nagging at him for some time.

Dubs confirms distrust of narrator

> wtf Chika isn't a psychopath

She checks ALOT of boxes, though:

> en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychopathy

Boldness
> Low fear including stress-tolerance, toleration of unfamiliarity and danger, and high self-confidence and social assertiveness.

Disinhibition
> Poor impulse control including problems with planning and foresight, lacking affect and urge control, demand for immediate gratification, and poor behavioral restraints.

Meanness
> Lacking empathy and close attachments with others, disdain of close attachments, use of cruelty to gain empowerment, exploitative tendencies, defiance of authority, and destructive excitement seeking.

Yeah he thinks that he just "hinted" at it. He doesn't get that giving hearts was the whole fad with the festival and that it's the same thing as confessing.

She admitted that she mainly rides him because he's lazy and unmotivated despite being one of the main people to stick up for him after being kicked out of school.

Their whole relationship is based on disliking each other on the surface, but being secretly considerate because they're too fucking stupid to come clean.

>chika is fearless, confident, assertive, passionate and ambitious so she's a psychopath
You Kaguyafags are the worst

True, but that's my point. Miko is emotionally invested there. For better or for worse.

Chaika is the best amirite redditbros?
Upvoted and gilded.

Yea, they do have a relationship at the moment. It's just not a romantic one...yet

I mean we already have threads celebrating shitty MCs solely because they have a sex drive instead of being shy or herbivorous, so yeah.

nice try but we all know who the reddit favorite really is

Well, my other point was that Miko's probably closer to that point than he is. Ishigami's behavior is probably easier to romanticize as well, fitting her Prince fetish. So the real question. How to seduce Ishigami?

Shinomiya group > some petty politician.

Shinomiya group probably buys politicians like her father for pocket money.

On the other hand, ishigami sees more of miko's good points. Like he knows that she's a hard worker and really appreciates her honesty among other things. He just hates how she's overbearing with him and confiscates his games and stuff. Miko probably feels some level of obligation when it comes to ishigami. She saw him getting bullied and unjustly punished in middle school and helped him graduate, and she also makes his offenses seem less severe, only to find that he was a rule-breaking slacker, and despite everything seemingly continues to be one, which frustrates her. She's very clearly fixated on rehabilitating ishigami to an extent, but it's clear that the way she's going about it right now is wrong. I'm not sure if it's love exactly, it seems more in line with her overall obsession with justice and the rules. However, as she starts to see more of ishigami's good points and realizes their similarities among other things, perhaps once he actually starts making an effort to improve himself where miko can see it, that obsession will probably turn into love.

Miko isn't in the anime because she's too fat and animating her would eat up all the budget

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The real fun starts when Miko has to reconcile the person she thought he was (Lazy and unmotivated bum) with the person he secretly is (Thoughtful and considerate).

We already have an idea on what could emotionally move Ishigami; why do you think he likes Shirogane so much, because he stood up for him when nobody else would, which moved him to tears.

If he finds out that Iino was one of the main reasons he was able to be accepted into high school, I think that'd do it.

>I think that'd do it.
>you were really nice to me a couple of years ago so that means I forget completely about my crush and I love you now
Ishigami already sees her as a good person, you're going to have him see her as a better person, but that still won't translate into love. The whole stuco helped him, which he's grateful for, and he was still scared shitless of Kaguya and his relationship with Fujiwara is shitting on each other.

Fujiwara's fat tats don't seem to have a problem showing up other than getting Kaguya jelly.

Chaika on the frontpage

It will certainly move her up in the scale. Now we just wait for Tsubame's response.

Going to have to agree here.
I think it'd make Miko's nagging more sympathetic and he'd be more motivated to not disappoint her after she worked so hard. But love?

>It will certainly move her up in the scale
Why? His impression of her would still be literally the same, he'd be grateful about it, but that's still EXTREMELY far from being a reason to fall for someone, unless you enjoy shoddily written romances I mean.

>Name 1 way in which she's inferior to Kaguya

Literally everything except for her chest. Kaguya is canonically good at almost everything she attempts.

It's "Wiener" you mongoloid.

Music, I'd most definitely give Fujiwara everything related to music and related arts, because that's the field she's a genius at.

I mean really, it's just a stretch. I'm not saying that's exactly what is going to happen, but we have an idea on what both of them value in people enough to paint a picture.

As for Tsubame; I think Ishi is going to come clean and clear up the misunderstanding. Whether she'll like him by that point is anyone's guess.

But I feel like Ishigami doesn't really "love" her so much as he's infatuated by the first girl who showed some genuine kindness to him after the shit he's been through. Once that fades, I think he'll be over her.

I think that Ishigami will get rejected by Tsubame and finding out that Miko helped him from the shadows will make him see her in a different light, which will prime him for Miko's advances, because it seems that she's starting to have feelings for Ishigami.

>I think Ishi is going to come clean and clear up the misunderstanding.
If he ever notices.
Also, contrary to oregairu's retardation, nice girls are worth falling for. He's into her exactly because she's nice to him and treats him like any other guy/kouhai.
For a guy like Ishigami, that makes for a huge crush, because she's literally an ideal girl in all respects for him.

This is the most boring and pointless way to end that shitfest.

At least Fujiwara can talk to her blood relatives.

New to the series. Is there more material to make a second or even a third season? Love the show.

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Not thinking about shipping at the moment, but Ishigami doesn't know he's confessed. He's not even really anticipating that kind of thing. That's going to influence his actions or reactions. Or rather, Ishigami isn't going to be thinking about things like a dude waiting for his confession to be accepted. Part of what makes this story a little confusing in what direction it takes.

>She can barely tolerate him atm. As far as she knows, he's just a lazy rule breaker and she's completely unaware how thoughtful he actually is.

You haven't been paying attention to the manga lately, if you think that's all there is to their relationship. I think they both have gotten some taste of each other's good points. Plus they share a mutual sympathy for each other's situations.

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It's going to adapt 45 capters out of 140+.

Read the manga.

There's enough for at least two more seasons
It won't get adapted though

Yea. Read the manga right this second before people ruin the whole ride for you

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they kiss

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>a house filled with TEN Chikas
No wonder he cheated on her after he was done with the team.

Thanks!

True, but speaking strictly meta, it's not gonna happen. Though it would be great if they started dating and just broke up, because that shit happens. Though, that might pad the story out a bit.

A bit off topic, but the Oreigaru's point on nice girls isn't meant to be right. Hachiman was completely judgmental and that's the point, he was kind of an asshole.

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>Is there more material to make a second or even a third season?
Yes to both.
This season is probably going to end at chaper 45 despite all the chapters and scenes they skipped (around ten), the manga instead is currently at chapter 141.
I actually hope the second/third season to be longer and a little slower, if they ever come.

>The way she delivered that line

No girl will ever look at me that way and talk like this while cuddling up to me
Why must I suffer like this

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>isn't meant to be right.
Tell that to the people who lapped it up like retards while blogposting.
Also if nothing actually happens between Ishigami and Tsubame the whole subplot will have been completely pointless and basically a waste of time. At that point just remove her from the series.

It's a bit trickier in ishigami's case because he currently has a crush on someone else, and understands some of iino's positive points, but ultimately the way they feel towards each other is similar at the moment. Iino is in love with the idea of an idealistic "perfect prince" that helps her and treasures her, and in iino's mind ishigami is absolutely the furthest thing from that. To an extent that's true - Ishigami may be helping her, but he's far from a flawless perfect prince. The issue is, and I think this applies to Ishigami to an extent as well, that both characters have a lot of growing to do. Ishigami isn't going to fall for iino based on the exact person that she is right now, but the person that she's going to become as she begins to mature. Iino, while she likely won't completely abandon her ideals, will start looking at justice and the world as more than black and white and see that there may be more important ways to judge people than simply based on how nice they are to her or how much they follow the rules. As a result she will start looking at Ishigami differently, even barring finding out about full details of their past. It's quite possible that iino may actually start to fall in love with him before knowing about the flower or any of the anonymous stuff ishigami has done for her, and that once she does learn about it will only reinforce those feelings.
If you look at it another way, Ishigami's crush on Tsubame and the reasons he likes her are pretty close to what iino described would be her "ideal type", basically a perfect person who is genuinely kind to them, understands them, and helps him. Ishigami may be just as idealistic as iino is when it comes to love, and that's going to change as time goes on. I also think that Ishigami is projecting a bit on tsubame, he likely has unreasonable expectations of tsubame's selflessness and kindness that are probably not completely accurate.

Why is Shirogane so unfaithful?

They've also skipped a bunch of chapters that might not ever be adapted.

>Ishigami may be just as idealistic as iino is when it comes to love
There's actually nothing wrong with that, as far as the series is concerned. Shirogane fell for his ideal, Shinomiya Kaguya, the girl who was everything he wasn't, and here we are.
Having an ideal to strive for in romance is important, even if it's not completely accurate.

Nice

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Ishigami may be just as idealistic as iino
He's as idealistic as Prez, including being a total virgin and the purest of maidens at the same time.

Miko is a violent bitch

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The manga is such a chore to read though
I don't know what's wrong with it, it's well drawn but the way text is arranged sucks.

That just make it sound like you don't read a lot of manga in general.

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>Miko is a violent bitch
Miko's physical strength is pathetic. Ishigami lets her do it.

The Tsubame subplot is really just for love triangle shit, the fact that she's been given hardly any focus or characterization compared to Miko is Aka telling the readers she won't actually be that important

>the fact that she's been given hardly any focus or characterization compared to Miko
Miko is barely a character too.
The whole Ishigami romance life thing is a total shitfest.

Then it's really shit writing.
She'll probably start getting at least some development/focus soon considering this shit is going to get dragged for 3 manga months which can be 50+ chapters easily.

a-ahah, I got you good guys, I was just pretending to be a dumb readlet
Probably just me then. Nevermind all that anons.

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Gotta pad out the content somehow with Prez and Kaguya switching to the next gear.

Is Idealism in romance really that bad in real life?

She's 21MP and 147cm of mostly jiggle. Damage she can't do.

What I was trying to say is that Ishigami probably doesn't really know that much about tsubame, just as tsubame doesn't know that much about him. On that point, I think that you touched on what might be tsubame's actual purpose in the story, not to be a endgame love interest for ishigami but to be an ideal (albeit a slightly inaccurate one) that he wants to strive for and better himself to achieve. Right now, Ishigami has very little confidence in himself, and is convinced that there's no way he wouldn't get rejected by tsubame if he confessed. Part of his arc has been and will continue to be building up that confidence and doing things to make himself more desirable for her (the whole studying thing being one example). The self improvement angle definitely is similar to Prez. That said it's obvious that he won't succeed in the end, but his efforts in improving himself won't be a waste in the end, and miko will probably begin to fall for him during this whole process.

As long as you don't try to push it your ideals/disappointment on the other person, nope.

Yes.

>Also if nothing actually happens between Ishigami and Tsubame the whole subplot will have been completely pointless and basically a waste of time. At that point just remove her from the series

Her not being a major character is exactly why I feel it won't go anywhere. Why pair the secondary Male protagonist with a character almost completely disconnected from the main group? In-Universe, she's graduating in a couple months and I don't think they'll do a long distance relationship.

>Tell that to the people who lapped it up like retards while blogposting
Yea, people are dumb. News at 11

>but his efforts in improving himself won't be a waste in the end, and miko will probably begin to fall for him during this whole process.
You realize this sounds terrible when you actually think it out, right?
>I improved a ton for Tsubame
>now you Miko get to enjoy everything I did purely for Tsubame

Go back to your discord, you speed reading tranny.

>Miko is barely a character
Are we done with this meme yet? Do people who aren't just shitposting legitimately believe this?

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The what?
Fuck off with your pointless sidecharacter shippershit already.

>and I don't think they'll do a long distance relationship.
Actually delving into what it entails, coupled with the age gap and all would be some actually really interesting writing though.
Aka won't go for it, but it's interesting nonetheless because it's never done well.

I wonder how the mutual friend factors into all this

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Actually I can sorta see where you're coming from. Aside from the reading order being weird for westerners, the text often has to fit into really narrow text bubbles - since they were made for vertical japanese text - and that often results in very weird word wrapping or really small text.

O LOVE ME, MISTAH, O MISTAH

It would be very painful

>meme

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Compared to the rest of the main cast, barring Fujiwara because Aka is purpousefully fucking around with her until it's time, she's by far the worst.

Stop reading so fast.

Not him, but I realize it. Silver medal Miko is a lame way to go.

>The whole Ishigami romance life thing is a total shitfest.
It was tolerable actually before Ishigami turned full dense MC and the off-day became an off-week. This is why my rule is that it's best not to take Kaguya any more seriously than other gag manga, because when you do a lot of things really fall apart.
>Miko is barely a character too.
She's a good character, Aka just loves to shoehorn Ishigami into her chapters which gives the impression that she exists just to be Ishigami's love interest, which hasn't even happened yet in-universe.

She's always going to be the silver medal.
By definition.

>Rei-chan Ishigami said no to my confession
>yep, remember this pain well

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I feel like you're missing the point here. Tsubame is essentially just Ishigami's excuse. The focus isn't going to be as much on tsubame in particular (she's a minor character) as it is going to be on the self-improvement angle. Read chapter 105 again. It's shallow to think of this as a "gold medal/silver medal" type of competition when it's really just about personal growth.

Bros tsubame is made for fat old man cock

>which hasn't even happened yet in-universe.
Well, if she isn't ending up with Ishigami, there's literally no point at all to her character right now.

>She's a good character
Nah.
>that she exists just to be Ishigami's love interest
Because she does.
You can axe both her and Tsubame and nothing would really change.

REMINDER THAT SUBJECT F LIKES ISHIGAMI AND WILL WIN THE ISHIBOWL!!!

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Because she joined late that's why you fucking dunce. A character needs to be built up first before they're fully realized.

>It won't get adapted though
Maybe just maybe, I like the anime more than the manga

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>Tsubame is essentially just Ishigami's excuse
Well then the same goes for Prez.
Kaguya was just an excuse too, I guess.

>Because she joined late that's why you fucking dunce
It's been almost 80 fucking chapters since her introduction.

False, because Maki is going to win the Ishibowl.

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>Because she joined late that's why you fucking dunce.
That's not an excuse by now you fucking retard.
Are you telling me that, after 70 chapters after their introductions, Kaguya, prez or Ishigami were worse characters than Iino is right now? Seriously?

> Rei-chan! Ishigami tore my hymen!
> Yep. Remember this pain well.

The point of her character is that she's next in line to be the student council president, except she's way too immature and unprepared for that role. I don't know if you're intentionally embracing the speedreader meme now or you're literally just skipping chapters

>The point of her character is that she's next in line to be the student council president
She's gonna get Devil Style'd on and you're going to like it.

You should stop calling everyone who ever complains about Iino a speedreader, because you are literally bringing up a "subplot", if you can even call it that, that hasn't even been mentioned ever since the elections ended and has had literally zero progress on all fronts.

That actually sums it up. Good observation user.

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>Tsubame
>Miko
>Rei
>Chika
>Maki
So is Ishigami a harem romcom protag?

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>Progress
I knew the otterfags were hiding somewhere. It all makes sense now.

Yes, he's dense and has pretty much nothing going for him.

> Cat Lingerie Kaguya

How hard would Prez shut down?

To love ru shanenigans when

OST FUCKING WHEN? I wanna hear the full song of You spin me round version Kaguya

All the blood in his body would instantly flow into his penis, shutting him down in a couple seconds.

Because the story had to climax Kaguya and Shirogane's relationship first. Ishigami didn't even get his backstory until about 80 chapters into the series, before he was more or less where Iino is now.

Wow, amazing retort.
Now riddle me this, if your "point in the story" hasn't been relevant for over half the series and all your development is related to developing feelings for a guy to end up with him, tell me what your actual point in the story is.
Protip: it's the later because if it actually was the former Aka would have done something with the chemistry she had with prez back during the elections and developed something out of it instead of literally nothing.

>You should stop calling everyone who ever complains about Iino a speedreader,
I couldn't care less what your personal preferences are, this was in response to her just being a love interest which is completely untrue at all if you even care enough to pay attention to this character.

She looks alright.

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Iino is 80 chapters into the series already. And even without the sports festival, Ishigami was both better and more entertaining than her.
Hell, Iino already had her backstory yet she's still like this.

>Because the story had to climax Kaguya and Shirogane's relationship first
It's gonna continue climaxing until the day this manga ends.

>Hell, Iino already had her backstory yet she's still like this.
She's still like what? Boring according to your personal taste? A character being entertaining or not is incredibly subjective, don't treat your dislike of Miko as common sense.

>if you even care enough to pay attention to this character.
Every chapter Iino has appeared for decent time has revolved around her relationship Ishigami ever since the welcome party I think? Right now it's exclusively the whole focus of her character, nothing else and whatever was there has been so completely sidelined is not even funny.

The problem with Miko is that she barely interacts with the other characters aside from Ishigami. Her interactions with Kaguya and Prez are basically limited to MISUNDERSTANDINGS after the election and her contact to Fujiwara is basically limited to be subservient pawn, which isn't even shown much. Aside from that, her character so far is being limited to

> cunt with a stick up her ass
> misunderstanding gags
> being a fucking glutton

So you're actually saying Iino is funnier than Ishigami was even before the culture festival.
Ishigami is more entertaining by virtue of actually interacting with the whole cast and getting a varied array of chapters with them.
It's like if prez had only been allowed to interact with Kaguya and Fujiwara a couple of times.

I want to get murdered by iceguya

Of course this shit devolves into "miko is a bad character and there's no progress" with people willfully ignoring all of the characterization she's gotten. Meanwhile they jump on the chance to support Tsubame despite her being pretty much nothing beyond a plot device for ishigami so far, or worse, characters like maki or literallywho characters like onodera. If you hate miko, at least articulate a reason for hating her that actually makes sense instead of "no development in 80 chapters" because it's just flat out wrong. She's gotten more development so far than most characters aside from prez, kaguya, and ishigami, and the pace is pretty much the same as ishigami.
Agreed, it's ridiculous how people pass off their dislike of a character as 100% of the time them being poorly written.

It's a turning point for the series after all

>and the pace is pretty much the same as ishigami.
In 40 chapters, Ishigami had developed unique and well done relationships with Kaguya, prez and Fujiwara. Interpersonal and relationship development with people who aren't to be your love interest is important in a fucking romcom, you know.
>characters like maki
She does her job as side character extremely well, and it's all you can ask for her.

next one is Ishigami and Tsubame

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Read chapter 115 again. Try to ignore the Ishimiko angle for a second and watch what Miko managed to achieve this chapter that she couldn't at all before she was introduced

>So you're actually saying Iino is funnier than Ishigami was even before the culture festival
No, I'm saying she's fine and that I like having her in the main cast. Just because she's not as fleshed out as Ishigami doesn't mean she's not good.

Prez fixed that part of her during her fucking introductory arc, the fucking ending of the elections was about it.
It was seeing her doing something we knew she could do back in chapter 70, so great.

So... she's still the worst part of the main cast barring Fujiwara, thanks we finally reached an agreement.

You know what I'm most happy about is that people arew calling antiMikofags on their shit.
Like 3 weeks ago this thread would have been FULL of Mikohaterfags with no pushback I'm proud of you brave anons.

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>It was seeing her doing something we knew she could do back in chapter 70
We knew that she could fully sell her own ideas to people and execute it well enough to work? She has never managed to do something as big as the bonfire, pre-election Miko couldn't have done something like that

>Tsubamakeks
>Mikofags

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>Fujiwarad*gs

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>We knew that she could fully sell her own ideas to people and execute it well enough to work?
We knew when she managed to completely destroy the advantage Kaguya had managed to get for prez, yes.
Miko's stage fright was over the moment the elections ended, so it's literally being amazed a character did something you know she can do because that part of her character has been developed for over 40 or so chapters no problem?

Based and canonpilled

No, he really just had comedic interactions with Fujiwara. Kaguya definitely had something since chapter 55 (even though not THAT much changed and he's still scared of her), but once again we only really see the fruits of that after sports festival. Plus him and Prez didn't really have much going on between them until sports festival and beyond. Iino is basically at the same stage as Ishigami pre sports festival.

Eh, honestly, this show is far, far better than its premise has any right to have made it.

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>Iino is basically at the same stage as Ishigami pre sports festival.
Iino literally doesn't interact with prez or Kaguya.
Ishigami and prez are good bros and you get the whole shoujo arc where they show how good bros they are.
Ishi actually changes his attitude towards Kaguya a lot since chapter 55, and I mean a lot because he stops with the I want to die/go home jokes completely aftwerwards.
And his relationship with Fujiwara becomes a full on back and forth of shitting on each other.
So no, Miko is far worse than Ishigami was.

i LOVE MAKI

You're a fucking moron. This is like saying "oh look, Prez is still not confident about confessing during dual confessions, he hasn't changed at all!" When it's clear after all that happened that it's not the case, it's simply that deeply rooted issues aren't going to change overnight or after just one time.
Exactly this. I'm glad there are people who read the manga and actually have fucking sense around here.

This ice Kaguya shit is the dumbest thing I read in this manga

>Miko's stage fright was over the moment the elections ended
Hell no it wasn't
>you know she can do because that part of her character has been developed for over 40 or so chapters no problem?
Now I'm confused. Are you arguing or agreeing with me now on her character being developed?

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I'm reserving judgement since she has been shown to be as thirsty as the rest of them, I'm hoping she actually advances the plot.

I thought the premise was somehow interesting as well, actually.
That's probably the reason why I started reading it at first.

Anyone read the manga?

Isn't Glasses Miko's right hand woman?

Doesn't it feel like she disappeared from the story when she refused to join the student council along with Miko?

Isn't it weird to ditch your best friend?

>her character being developed?
I'm agreeing in that her character has been static in everything but her relationship with Ishigami ever since the election ended.
Or worse than static, because as far as her relationships with the stuco gets, they've gotten worse, except Ishigami.

>aren't going to change overnight or after just one time.
Yet they are never brought up again, she speaks out like a cunt in the stuco and had almost no problems speaking up otherwise, so yes, over.
>have fucking sense around here.
>agrees with me and my fanboyism*

There are a lot of interesting manga premises, but many of them are wasted to general hackery of Japanese writers. Decent writers would atleast manage to use the premise to its absolute best

Maybe your defective boner can't process why it makes the majority of us pitch tents. Probably from all the curds in your brain

She is a menace for Japan

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>Iino literally doesn't interact with prez or Kaguya.
Do you have chapters with Miko blacklisted or something

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The suicidal shit mostly stops as a result of sports festival. The shoujo stuff had a nice interaction at the end but we really only see the true bromance happen during sports festival. Fujiwara interactions basically doesn't change at all, it's just funny to see him shit on her, there's no development though really. All the major development you're talking about and changes to Ishigami himself? Sports festival and beyond is where most of them are.

She literally addresses this when she gets a chapter focus. She thinks Miko needs to gain more self-reliance without her present and thinks the StuCo will help

Based

I don't think so, I think you'll get used to her, just like we got used to Bakaguya. It's just as silly, but I never had any problem with it.
I always wanted to see more of Kaguya in deep ice mode, and it turns out it won't be just in a flashback.
Simply, she decided that some seriousness was in order.
She didn't disappear, we simply don't see her that often (although Miko probably does).

I don't mind the idea of Miko and Ishigami together but we're gonna have to crawl through quite a bit of character development before it works out.

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>Or worse than static, because as far as her relationships with the stuco gets, they've gotten worse, except Ishigami.
At this point maybe it's a good time to reread the series

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And again, it's just a fucking misunderstanding.

>it's just a fucking misunderstanding.
Okay. Do you get this heated whenever Prez has his how cute delusions?

Yes. Just like most of the stuff used for comedy in this manga, you fucking moron. Nice buzzword.

>cat lingerie
>is black
His boner won't settle for days

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So much that Kaguya would take him to God Hand for another round of "make Hayasaka want to die."

He'd become the sexual equivalent to Bakaguya

>Daughter*

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Image posting seems to be fucked. Images seem to be loading so goddamn slow. If at all.

He would have a month long boner

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He's obviously enjoying it.

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Took a month to do this but I'm glad I did.

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Fuck off R guy

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You have nothing to be concerned over.

MIKO RAPE DOUJINS WHEN???

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This but with Maki

Maki raping Miko doujins when?

Never

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How cute

Miko is literally perfect for Mindbreak doujins
Fucking when?

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is this the moment bakaguya took the wheel?

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No chapter this week? Two weeks break?

Cute, loving mindbreak as she initially resists but is reduced to jello when he tells her how much he admires her determination?

Aka is working on the Vol 14 extras, yes.

O Paddy dear, and did ye hear the news that's goin' round? The shamrock is by law forbid to grow on Irish ground! No more Saint Patrick's Day we'll keep, his color can't be seen For there's a cruel law ag'in the Wearin' o' the Green." I met with Napper Tandy, and he took me by the hand And he said, "How's poor old Ireland, and how does she stand?" "She's the most distressful country that ever yet was seen For they're hanging men and women there for the Wearin' o' the Green." "So if the color we must wear be England's cruel red Let it remind us of the blood that Irishmen have shed And pull the shamrock from your hat, and throw it on the sod But never fear, 'twill take root there, though underfoot 'tis trod.

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>Miko saying "I'm turning into an idiot"

he's going to take his time drawing the four pages of se..

>Miko insists they have to get married since they had se...
It's the moral thing to do.

can't wait for these seeds to hatch and release their venomous fury

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Yeah, that face does not say "Miko isn't even interested in Ishigami that way". Some part of her wanted that confession to be real.

What does she mean by this?

poor hayasaca was blindsided by developments

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O MY [N]ICE WEINER

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WEINER WEINER WEINER

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For one brief instant, she was forced to think about the idea of Ishigami liking her. And she's found that her reaction to it is neither "disgusting." nor is it "PLEASE YES!" but instead "imagine that."

I don't think she knows just how fast that means she's hurtling into the pit of having fallen for him. We'll see.

>This thread, again
You guys need to learn to ignore bait, the iinofag is either a falseflag from shitposters or some newfag brought by the anime, no one ever gave a single shit about her since she appeared.

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speak for yourself

A part of her was hoping that Kaguya would say that the kiss was no big deal; that being in love wasn't actually so amazing as people made it sound. No such luck. I think a lot of her tormenting Kaguya over the kiss was basically her version of doing this.

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FOCK ME MINGE ROIGHT NOW M8

Hayasaka shitposting?

I would take Hayasaka shitposting any day over the Iino shit right now, at least the Hayasaka shitposting manages to be funny sometimes and the NTR stuff is actually a gag.

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Are all irish people this horny or just Hayasaka?

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Well, she's lingering over it for some reason. Maybe she just likes the idea of being confessed to.

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delet

maki only likes regular sex

>Maybe she just likes the idea of being confessed to.
Well of course: she's Miko. Being told "I like you" in any sense at all leaves her totally incapacitated.

>Ntrfag
opinion discarded

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>Ishigami is in a love triangle
...We will not go fullblown Oregairu shitposting in this thread, do we?

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>oregairu and otterfags combined

The threads wouldn't survive.

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The Viz translations are absolutely horrible.

Thank goodness he is just a secondary character
Now if it was Prez or Kaguya this would become Oregairu threads 2.0

We will.

>Miko is cutest
>Tsubame isn't bad either
Now if only Chika would fall far /our guy/

She will pull up from behind

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Soon

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>All those shitposters from reddit posting stuff from there a few days/weeks ago
>It can't be that bad right? Ended up going to check
>They actually want this
Jesus fucking Christ, they actually self insert into Ishigami, I knew that there were a few faggots that did this, I didn't expect to see almost an entire thread filled with "x girl needs to fall for Ishigami". Even the shitposting here leads to discussion sometimes.

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Onodera is good too

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Hayasaka is a slut for the man she loves

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Ishigami?

But she follows the school regulations

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Yeah, normally you'd think the "harem" thing is just a meme but there are legitimately people that want it or think it exists already, it's delusional and pure wish fulfillment.

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>Worried she can't get into Standford

She has grades just shy of Prez, she has lots of extracurricular activities under her belt, speaks at least three languages (I'm assuming her English is great), and her family can make a substantial donation. She should have no worries of getting into Stanford.
Hell, I'm wondering how Prez got in.

yes I want

Suddenly Onodera.

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I like the manga version of the uniform, where it's just one piece. Or at least it's drawn that way most of the time.

Onodera is a wild card

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>Miko finds the book laying around chapter.

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>posting the low quality version

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How can prez be so /fa/ ?

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Psychopaths make the best leaders in a crisis

Ishigami's harem keeps growing.

>No new chapter until next week
just end me now

I thought breaking down in tears like a bitch was the best way to lead?

But then you'll miss next week's chapter!

Aka has made us all crack addicts
.. Kaguya crack

How do we make Kaguya more grimdark, edgy, and full of forced drama? Who dies first?

>Who dies first?
Fujiwara

And you thought this girl was a doormat

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It makes sense. Her flesh would feed the others for a long time

Onodera will never win the Ishibowl. Stop deluding yourself.

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>Ishi's harem is now pulling in characters from other series
The force is strong with this one

How do we know she cried if nobody was watching?

Ishigami was a nobody. Or he had cameras.

The narrator doesn't count, and neither do we. But Osaragi, at least, overheard.

You are nobody

Is Ishigami actually this manga's protag?

those are shuuchin gyaru

Kaguya has renewed vigor! Is she pumped up for four pages of se..?

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Forced prostitution

Just as much as Miko is the heroine.

Whats the difference between a shuuchin gyaru and a normal one?

40 seconds are up Aka. Time to deliver the goods

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Miko a shit.

Basically side B protagonist and heroine. that's their description in the bios.

Miko a cute

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Corrupt the Miko

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Miko is only for pampering and breeding.

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Protect Miko

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Someone quick stuff a wiener in that girl's mouth!

Use the Miko against the student council

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How about breeding while wearing pampers?

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>How about breeding while wearing pampers?

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Kek.

>smiling Ice
YES

This guy knows where to find some good doujins

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Bottom right, Jesus fuck.

Isn't that Lawrence Krauss?

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Ishigami will give this cutie something genuine!

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Lucky trips wasted on such a shitpost, thread ruined