Why is it less common for a MC to be mature aged?

Donte just looks older because he has silver hair.

did it ever occur to you that stories can create role models instead of drowning people in false sense of accomplishment they get from reading about same fucking unlikable loser as them EXCEPT he gets to become a fucking superman and fucks all the best pussy?

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did it ever occur to you that that's not the fucking point of the thread nor the answers provided?
has it not yet occured to you that shonentards are living in your head rent-free?

>free shonen in my head
sign me up

What is the DMC5 of anime/manga?

ur mom

Hellsings the closest thing to DMC

>fans waited for so long for a sequel that they give up hope it was ever going to come out
>comes out of nowhere and btfos attempted reboot of series
Hellsing is tonally similar but its not a 'DMC5'

glad the DmC abortion got ignored

I want to die

user never dies

Fustration is getting bigger

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>implying a zoomer wouldn't love to self-insert as a boomer, a person with limitless confidence and drive that the zoomer so clearly lacks

It's the most basic power fantasy.

Most Japanese vidya still have young protagonists.
To be honest, I literally cannot think of a Japanese video game with a protagonist that is around 30 years and above.

PULL MY DEVIL TRIGGER

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>shonentards are living in your head rent-free
me lamenting general state of the medium, which devolved into creatively bankrupt endless stream of low effort pandering and wish fulfillment, has nothing to do with my attitude towards any specific group in particular.

Fullmetal Panic S3

Same reason for not having that many female MCs in shounen.
This is what sells in that genre. If you want more mature MCs or ones that don't follow the same tropes, go to other genres that have other target audiences.
It's like reading women teen novels like the Hunger Games or Twilight and wonder why all the MCs are the same kind of bland girl who can do everything and are constantly surrounded by male love interests. Or why so many adult shows are about regular workers dealing with exaggerated working-place troubles. They are easier to identify for their intendant audience and give them what they want to see.

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>Because most mangas are read by children and teens
This is not true, especially for Japan

It has an anime, you big fat sack of faggotry.

This. I remember when I was kid, I preferred Naruto over Marvel and DC cartoons, because Naruto was about kids taking exams.

The what? I don't know why you're talking about things that don't exist

Go back to Yea Forums.

WE ARE FALLING

Where did this self-insert meme start? Even as a kid, I never thought anything retarded like "the MC of this cartoon is me"

Self-Inserting allows you to get immersed into the world. If you can't self insert into a character in a series, that series will never leave an impression.

Because mature aged MCs require a mature plot, something that doesn't appeal to the lowest common denominator. It's easier to write an old guy as a side character, a badass old master or a villian.

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>mature aged
Go back to

>If you can't self insert into a character in a series, that series will never leave an impression.

lol

It's an Asian thing. Brit and American whites always had adult protagonists that kids were meant to evoke a sense of "dats me when i grow up!!!!"

>If you can't self insert into a character in a series, that series will never leave an impression.
Dude what the fuck?
I've never needed to self-insert as main character in stories I've read/watched. I was perfectly content with tagging along and observing. You know, taking something out of it?

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>This is what sells in that genre
OP never mentioned any genre.

Castlevania SoTN
Megaman X and Z
Silent Hill, perhaps

Manga isnt Western Comics

manga artists are mostly manchildren who don't understand adulthood

unironically this

Because after WW2 Japan adopted an ideology of youth representing hope for the future of society and having a responsibility to fix the mistakes of the past generation. This influenced media/storytelling a lot.
This is is the right answer but admittedly is probably less interesting to you retards than the answers from the pea brain shitposters in this thread.

Bullshit, the only reason they flat claim they were in the right in WW2 is because they need American support.

>If you can't self insert into a character in a series, that series will never leave an impression.
People unironically believe this and It's disgusting that people don't want to just enjoy a story for what it is and instead require a blank canvas they can project themselves onto.

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Welcome to majority of japanese media, were they don't want a story, but a immesion tool.

It's not just japanese media though. Similar sentiments exist in western media and the most recent pushes for diversity in the comics industry specifically has the same line of "we need a character we can identify with".

It's not like it's new, but it's gotten noticeable and grating to say the least

I'd actually really like to see that user. A shonen manga with a cool female MC would be a refreshing change of pace.

Well, western and nip identification is way different.

THE LIGHT IS CALLING
did Devil never cry get in DMC5 I love the leitmotif of DMC3?

>Because after WW2 Japan adopted an ideology of youth representing hope for the future of society and having a responsibility to fix the mistakes of the past generation.
That's why we had like 2 straight decades chockfull of seinen manga and anime with grown up protags who weren't fucking afraid to hold a girl's hand and now we're in a downward spiral of teenage boy isekai and idol/waifushit

Yes, it got in the game as deluxe soundtrack

part of that megabuster dlc pack?

idk, i just saw the song as part of a playlist

>this thead is 100% off-topic
the topic is being actively discussed you spastic fuck
you linked 3 posts in a 60 post thread

>no fun allowed ruletard
>doesn't know announcing sage and report is bannable too
fuck off

>talkung about the source material of an anime is off-topic.

ALL THESE VOICES INSIDE OF MY HEAD

Because an old man having life changing personality development would be weird. You can't write a story about a character's growth when they're already wrinkled.

>Because an old man having life changing personality development would be weird
why?

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>All these meme spoutiing armchair psychologists
bait thread?

>Rock
>aged old man
Too stupid to even understand what OP was asking

>I literally cannot think of a Japanese video game with a protagonist that is around 30 years and above
MGS

Pretty sure the western ones mean something entirely different.

If OP hasn't seen anything besides male teens is because he is looking at a specific setting.
>Metal Gear 1, Rising, 4 and V
>Devil May Cry 3 and V
>Bayonetta
>Most Silent Hill Games
>Ace Combat
>Armored Core
>Yakuza
>Vanquish
>Dynasty Warriors
>Metal Wolf Chaos
You could try Jojo Part 6 and Claymore. Also, Medaka Box kinda? Soul Eater has a female main, but it kinda sucked at the end.

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how do you fucking function?
you are actually dismissing the fucking entirety of human prosaic literary achievement
one of the best novels in history is about a wrinkled old man trying a to catch a fucking fish

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>female shonen mc
Neverland?

I mean he's wrong but yeah most people have a harder time to change when they're older.

That turned out great

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Go take you classic lit cock sucking back to your campus.
>N-no but it's so good and intellectual because my professor said so and to be part of the pseudointellectual circlejerk I need to agree that all old novels are masterpieces!
No different than Evafags

No it's not emma a is a stereotypical Shonen protagonist it makes no difference if she was a girl or boy

>back to your campus
I'm 30 and we've had Hemingway and Tolstoy as required reading in middle school, you absolute fucking failure of a human.

Because Japanese are obsessed with youth, because their society is fucked

Well apparently your middle school failed you as your reading comprehension is terrible.

>I mean he's wrong but yeah most people have a harder time to change when they're older.

But their change generally has a great deal more significance and consequences

>I was perfectly content with tagging along and observing
Just because you're content in being a surface level reader/watcher doesn't mean everyone else does.

>people pretending that they don't self insert
Oh fuck off. Everyone self inserts into fictional stories. Some of them even do it subsconsiously so they don't realize that they're actually self inserting. It is literally impossible to enjoy a fictional story without self inserting to a character. One who does so cannot be human, but an emotionless robot.

>One who does so cannot be human, but an emotionless robot.

Seriously, where the fuck do you get these ideas?

>It is literally impossible to enjoy a fictional story without self inserting to a character.
that's literally just your dumbass opinion

>subconsciously
anything to be right on 4channel.org

>story features a teenage/college student age cast

Instant drop, I'm too old for this shit

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typical egomaniacal amerifat
everything has to be about you, center of the fucking universe
so fucking sad to see this has contaminating rest of the world

>series starts with teen MC
>MC is actually 7 different people including old men and mass genociders

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Empathizing with a character is self-inserting as you're imagining yourself in their shoes but anons are too dumb to realize that

> If you can't self insert into a character in a series, that series will never leave an impression.
what the fuck kind of opinion is that
who are you supposed to insert into in samurai champloo?

>Empathizing with a character is self-inserting
jesus fucking christ

>"Muh identify with shit"
I honestly only see women caring about stuff like this. Like my niece will only pick women in foghting games, meanwhile ever since I was a kid I just used whatever was available to me. Never thought much about it.

>Empathizing with a character is self-inserting
No it isn't. That's literally just empathizing. Are you really like this?
Self inserting is "god I wish that were me"
if empathy is self-insertion, then I self-insert into your mother for being so embarrassed by your ignorance.
that's two whole ways I've inserted into your mom now

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>Oh fuck off. Everyone self inserts into fictional stories. Some of them even do it subsconsiously so they don't realize that they're actually self inserting.
No,just because you are a selfinserting retard soesn't mean everyome else is
>It is literally impossible to enjoy a fictional story without self inserting to a character.
Go read/watch a good story and then come back
>One who does so cannot be human, but an emotionless robot
Welcome to 4channel

>projecting your own autism on to what self-insertion is
well that explains it

>all western style games

Westaboos don't count.

Lupin

To be trchnical self insertion only occurs when the author of the work inserts an idealized version of them self into the story/picture. Readers by definition cannot self insert

>Armored Core
>Vanquish
>Yakuza
>Dynasty Warriors
>western style games

let me emphasize a few of these
>>YAKUZA
>>DYNASTY WARRIORS
>>>>>>>>WESTERN STYLE GAMES

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Vidya's turnover rate isn't as abysmally high as anime. Anime is unique amongst geeky hobbies such as vidya, tabletop, and live action sci-fi in that most people drop out of it before their mid 20s.

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Yakuza might be set in Japan, but it's still developed using the core principles of western game development. QTE's, realistic cg characters, "cinematic" cutscenes, bad gameplay, etc. The list goes on.
Same goes for Dynasty Warriors. Make a musou with American's running and gunning and you wouldn't be able to tell it was made in japan.

>I haven't played either of these games but I insist on having an opinion of them anyway
You can't name a single western game like Yakuza and your reasoning for Dynasty Warriors is embarrassingly shallow.

I've been watching anime and reading Manga for so long, yet I've seen so few adult protagonists or stories. We're do you even start looking?

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>Devil May Cry 3
Actually Dante here is at his youngest. All other DMC games have a more mature Dante. 5's is the eldest.

wish there were more stories like blood alone and DtB

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Because anime and manga are aimed at people who refuse to grow up.

>18-49 counts as one group

But 3 is the only one with an age, and he is in his thirties there.

>You can't write a story about a character's growth when they're already wrinkled.
Then you just make a "redemption" story or a comedy instead.
Dozens of movies have already been made about grumping old men being forced to pair up with a kid to become less of an asshole. Can't be that hard.

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>moving the goalpost
Tell me when you're done, i'll wait.

>DMC3 Dante
>Thirties
He's more like in his early 20's here.

>tfw UP

>DMC 3 Dante
>30 years old
Are you retarded, user? He's around 19 there.

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XV-kun, is that you?

Because 30 year olds are supposed to be married salarymen with children.
It's that simple.
An adventurous old man would be seen as some kind of failure and a bad influence in Japan.

not just in Japan

>Yea Forumsermin trash eating up crapcom garbage as usual

Anime/manga are usually aimed either at teenagers or at people that want to be teenagers/are sexually attracted to teenagers. The kinds of people that want actually mature stories with older characters probably watch dramas or movies. Not saying this is 100% true but it makes sense if you look at what's popular or even the kinds of things that air on late night TV in Japan.

>99%
I wish you were wrong.
The anime format has so much potential and the basic idea for many of them is not bad either.
What fucks it up is the boring and soulless cliche mc and the boring story line which tries to offend as few people as possible.

I don't get it either, I've always been baffled by the concept of only enjoying fictional material that is "relatable" or has self-insert potential via plain everyman MCs or familiar environments, it's a non-factor for me.

>Self inserting is "god I wish that were me"
It's just imagining to be the mc doing the mc things which you see on the screen.

Is self inserting as a new character also self inserting?

>pie chart
>grouping age into categories
Delete this.

Goku and Vegeta are boomers

Sword was a pretty cool guy.

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Oh indeed. He was one of the more approachable GAROs.

If he's talking about anime though, adult oriented manga are rarely animated in part because they tend to be suited to live action anyways.