Benevolent Yakuza boss that helps people and even the noble good guys respect, and are the only ones who can keep order...

This is also why I noped out of Nisekoi after seeing the premise no matter how cute the girls were.

Godfather may not glorify the mafia if you analyze it thoroughly but most people don't really do that. They only remember that romanticized aura of a powerful criminal boss ruling his family with honor or whatever the shit, so it looks attractive and ends up glorifying it. Many similar Western movies and TV series fall into the same trap or go for it intentionally while trying to depict the criminal drama.

Most mangaka would rather not get turned into ningen sashimi

You’re drunk. Western Mafia movies are always “Yes these guys can seem cool as fuck but at the core they’re crazy, shallow, uneducated, heartless, belligerent, murderous losers who spend their lives in terror of prison or getting murdered themselves by their “brothers” in the club.”

the yakuza were formed as a mob to protect peasants from samurai

It isnt just an issue in One Piece.

Recently, Nisekoi did this and My Hero Academia as well (Overhaul wasnt the REAL yakuza, he was a big meanie who took it over)

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The Yakuza is literally like 10% Koreans dude. And the only reason they harass foreign gangsters is because they obviously don’t want to deal with competitors.

They’ll buy southeast asian drugs from nigerian dealers and east european sex slaves from russian bratvas no problem.

Vito Corleone is exactly this same kind of benevolent boss you described.

>Overhaul wasnt the REAL yakuza, he was a big meanie who took it over
Yeah, that was pretty dumb.

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Breaking Bad was lame, but the only part I actually enjoyed was when Walt plans his first drug deal and they go to an edgy movie tier junkyard instead of Taco Bell or something like the wigger suggested. Then the cartel guy meets them and goes “wtf? why are we in a junkyard? Taco Bell is right down the road”.

He isn't "benevolent". He repays favors and expects favors to be returned, it's all give and take.

Overhaul played it exactly right.

It's somewhat similar like with Kings, freedom fighters of all kind, and soldiers.
All sometimes bring death and don't always have/work for noble causes. Anyway the people glorifie them if they profit because of their actions, think the cause as noble or imagine there's a different one. It's 'cool'.

But he is ultimately not that good a person, and he clearly wanted better for his kids.

Marlon Brando being amazing is more of the reason. And Vito is portrayed as someone who wished his family took the opportunity to rise out of the underworld into legitimate business & politics. He never wanted Michael in the life.

Nope, Minbo, it portray the yakuza like a bunch of dumb thugs that get played by a middle aged woman

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I mean let’s cut the self righteous bullshit here. You think presidents and senators are any different from mob bosses at the end of the day?

the Yakuza games are really guilty of this, even if I love them.
Pretty convenient how the Tojo Clan doesn't deal with either drugs or human trafficking and the only thing they seem to do is beat up rival gangs and thugs.

>The yakuza, who prefer to think of themselves as something akin to modern-day samurai,[1] were angered by their portrayal in Minbo as common thugs and bullies. Three knife-wielding members of the Goto-gumi yakuza gang attacked director Juzo Itami near his home on May 22, 1992, six days after the movie opened. Itami was beaten and had his face slashed.[2] The brutality of the attack, combined with Itami's popularity and the success of Minbo, led to a public outcry and a government crackdown against yakuza activity.[citation needed]
>Itami's 1997 death is alleged to have been murder disguised as suicide, carried out to prevent him from making a further film about the Yakuza

>He died on December 20, 1997[5] in Tokyo, after falling from the roof of the building where his office was located.
Yikes, insane to think that this was two decades ago.

Remember Robin Hood? The concept of a benevolent criminal organization is old as balls. People love the concept of romantic rebel, its make good stories. Everybody knows that's not how things work in reality.

At the end of the day? Yes, yes they are. Presidents and senators are better than mob bosses. Damning with faint praise here.

Bakuto were the most honest of the yakuza.

Kek. Reminds me of the gay pride MS paint comic.

>Hmmmm
>How can we teach everybody that we are NOT degenerate criminals and predators?
>BEHEAD THOSE WHO INSULT THE YAKUZA

our protagonists are fucking pirates in case you forgot, you goddamn bozo

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>He hates Best Boy Kiryu

Fuck off Micheal.

Explain Nisekoi then.

And it wasnt a pirate praising the yakuza in this OP chapter.

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>Explain Nisekoi then.
It's generic romance crap.
Next.

MHA

>Explain Nisekoi then
i won't because i don't read the series, and i'm talking about one piece here
>And it wasnt a pirate praising the yakuza in this OP chapter
because that would have made the difference? the two pirates in that scene are also on the "good guys" side

The thread isnt specifically about OP. Western media doesnt praise mafia in this manner.

Yakuza is pretty much japanese culture at this point. To criticize it would be to criticize japan, and its a big nono in japan

That's Japan. The yakuza are intertwined with Japanese business and politics to an extent unimaginable the US.

>Japanese society tells you to conform and follow the rules and hierarchies
>Also praises literal criminals and doesn't even bother pretending that they're not everywhere
Nani the fuck

So the yakuza are basically the same as the government? I don't see the problem here. Yeah, praising the government is stupid but it's obvious why you need the sheep to do it for the benefit of society.

Generic Cape Crap that appeals to Fujos and Betas
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But it does, all the fucking time. Always does the bullshit about honor and such when none of that existed.

>Always does the bullshit about honor and such when none of that existed.
Point taken, but has an American crime movie or TV series ever tried to argue that the Mafia are a force of good in society or a net gain?

>But it does, all the fucking time.
Where? The Godfather? Scarface? All these movies, while sometimes making this shit seem "cool", never glorify it as a good thing.

More importantly, the OP pointed out that even children's media does the GLORIOUS NIPPON YAKUZA shit. Children's media in the West would never say that an evil criminal organization is a force for good.

Vito is a good guy. But his mafia lifestyle leads to Michael, who could have been a real good guy, ending up as a huge asshole. The Godfather is a tragedy. Goodfellas is its "cynical" counterpart.

That being said, in One Piece the World Government does pretty awful shit, and Wano is such a chaotic clusterfuck that you can't really get all worked up at the Yakuza being portrayed well.

Out of curiosity, how long until the anime introduces our lord and savior?

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People like the concept of a rebel who defies authority and sometimes, like in the case of Nips, they start to think of them as a robin hood-like figure regardless of how bad their actions are. It dosen't help either that officials like the goverment are painted in a worse light most of the times.

Western media might make gangsters look cool but they rarely do show them as the good guys, and works that do that gets criticized for it.

>Zootopia

>never glorify it as a good thing
I mean neither does Japan to an extent. In entertainment it's usually down on their luck or people who can't fit into Japan's 'hammer in the nail that sticks out' culture who are forced to join the Yakuza as a means to survive. Even in a lot of delinquent manga the Yakuza are seen as usually portrayed as scary even compared to the most fucked up delinquent.

You can say that they're portrayed as fighting for the common man but this is what happens when you actively criticize them and it makes sense that popular Japanese mangaka that have tens of thousands of people every week reading their story don't want to be involved in negative publicity and making people who can and will legitimately kill them mad, so they make distinctions between good and bad gangsters even though most adults know there's no such thing while sating the Yakuza and teaching kids that mobsters are bad.

>Western media might make gangsters look cool but they rarely do show them as the good guys, and works that do that gets criticized for it.

Eh, Breaking Bad glorifies Walt in a way, even though he lets people die to further his plans.

>OP being a gullible idiot who takes a third-hand information at the face value.
Did no one remember Mother Carmel?

You mean the psychopaths who were about to instafreeze the terrified heroes until the boss’s daughter demanded their release on a whim?

The Yakuza helped during the Tsunami aftermath in Japan. They aren't the same as US or European gangs.

Japs might get killed if they insulted them.
>they aren't the same because of some charity

When was the last time beaner gangs did anything to help Mexico. Even if they were doing it disingenuously help is help and people are going to remember it.

Too bad beaners aren't part of the US or Yurop.

Al Capone used to hold soup kitchens in the Great Depression and Bumpy Johnson handed out free food to the hungry. Crime organizations have always garnered support that way.

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I agree with your point, but Chapo's gang has apparently helped parts of Sinaloa with some shit. Not nearly as much as they've damaged it, but they have technically done stuff.

>The boss finds out that they saved his daughter
>IMMEDIATELY on good terms with them and offers them favors
>Otterton went to the mob for help instead of the police
You're full of shit and just have a Western bias. Not to mention that Michael Jackson in Moonwalker was a good-natured gangster in comparison to Mr. Big, just as Japanese media paints a distinction between chivalrous gangsters to scummy gangsters like One Piece's Hyougoro vs. Kyoshiro.

>Al Capone led to the creation of food expiration dates
>Al Capone helped pay the rent for poor tenants
>Al Capone's soft spot for children in general
>Al Capone's outstanding reputation with citizens in Chicago in general until the St. Valentine's Day Massacre put citizens at risk in a mob war
>BUT NO IT'S ONLY THE FILTHY JAPS THAT HAVE GOOD MOBSTERS AS EXCEPTIONS TO CRIMINAL ORGANIZATIONS GENERALLY PORTRAYED AS EVIL

>I despise this trope so fucking much. You almost never see this shit in Western media
Yo what is Narcos?

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Yeah remember that time when Pablo Escobar became a fucking terrorist

Pablo Escobar was still portrayed sympathetically. Remember how incensed he got when that detective killed that kid and went on a rant about how authorities always treat the poor and helpless like shit.

You're one of the dumbest people I've ever met on the interwebs.

Why is it whenever there's a thread that disparages any part of Japanese culture there's always a couple of anons who instantly jump to it's defense? I know we're all fans of their media here but some of these guys are Japanese nationalist tier.

>freedom fighters
Freedom fighters are the worst in every goddamn piece of media East and West. They're always the noble, egalitarian perfect do gooders while in real life most freedom fighters are unsavory political extremists at best and drug smuggling bandits at worse and the do gooders are usualy NGO's or foreign actors. Akame ga Kill's biggest retardation was trying to say Night Raid was as bad as the Empire then doing any and everything in the writer's power to portray every murder and justified and the right thing to do

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>The Godfather doesn't really glorify the Mafia
Godfather literally made mafia behave like they did in the movie
not even joking

OP, I totally get your point. I had that same kind of reaction 13+ years ago, the first time I read "girl in concrete". It was like I never realized it before then. After investigating about it back then, I read about how it's supposed to be from how the yakuza somehow "helped" the japanese population right after WW2 (yeah right, nope, they were just helping themselves while also helping other common people as collateral, but japan has always been a country chock-full of absolute retards, back then even more than nowadays, hence why the glorification of yakuza came to be)

Sopranos and Goodfellas did it the best, at the end you just despised most of the characters.

Hannyabal was so based. One of the best speeches in OP.

The Godfather main characters are morally gray at best, unlike the heroic yakuza trope OP describes. I can't think of a single work in Western media where organized criminals are straight up good guys. Unless it's something like Robin Hood, but they're more like guerrilla fighters.

Walt is clearly not supposed to be a good guy, that's the whole point of the series.

Japan is a mentally ill emotionally repressed society with closet so fucking full of skeletons it makes Sedlec Ossuary pale in comparison. Its day to day social life is revolving around bulletproof public image cultivated though a clusterfuck of pre-programed interactions strictly guided by social hierarchies and not rocking the fucking boat no matter what.
Suicides through the roof?
Demographic time bomb?
Molestation epidemic?
Thriving organized crime and general crime going unreported? (wow Japanese crime rates are so low!)
HUNDRED THOUSAND people gone missing ANNUALLY?

Evelything is daijoubu, goshujinsama! No ploblem in nippon.

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the Yakuza video game series does a good job of showing how fucked the Yakuza really is all the while having them be the heroes or good guys

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The Godfather novel VERY MUCH glorifies the Mafia. Francis Ford Coppola took it upon himself to add all the moral ambiguity and greyness and bitter endings, because the novel ends on a very happy note with everything smoothly resolved and everyone very happy. But at one point the Mafia protecting the common people was a pretty honest thing, and it's what they used to do, protect people from the bullies that were the church and the rich. It's not at all what they are now or have been, but once upon a time it was.

Most of the Yakuza in the Yakuza games are greedy scumbags who are almost villainously sadistic. Kiryu is one of like 3 characters that isn't a vile person.

You have the mind of a child, or crippling cognitive dissonance.

nigga you're reading a manga about pirates as the good guys. if you had a problem with this type of shit you should've dropped it at chapter 1.

Then WSJ might as well not write about yakuza at all. Because what good are they as subject points if they arent allowed to be what they are? Which unironically would make for a cooler story. We all know Kyoshiro is going to end up being a secret good guy and the yakuza are all good boys in op just like in other recent wsj shit.

>HUNDRED THOUSAND people gone missing ANNUALLY?
As expected from a land teeming with youkai.

>complain about glorifying criminals
>in a manga about pirates

>complain about glorifying criminals
>when the entire moral of the story is Luffy's retarded laissez faire ideal of freedom which includes shitting on organised government and propping up literal (actual) pirates
Is luffy an anarchist lads

no his father is a anarchist
Luffy is just seaGoku

Luffy freed hundreds of super dangerous criminals just for the sake of helping his brother. He's an extremely egoistical individual who doesn't give a single fuck about what could happen to people he doesn't care about.

what about John Dillinger and Al Capone during their time?

oh yeah
Goku threatened the destruction of his galaxy and several others just because he wanted to fight

Nope completely different scenario.

Goku was confident he had the situation under control since he just had to defeat the bigbad.

The prisoners Luffy released mostly spread far and wide causing havoc he doesn't know or care about yet alone bother to stop.

Atleast it's only Hyou being admired rather than the Yakuza in general.

Buggy released most if not all of the prisoners. Luffy mostly had the Okama group, Jimbe, and Crocodile be freed.

>Buggy released most if not all of the prisoners.
Which Luffy actively helped him with in their escape later on.
>Crocodile
Murdered thousands and personally ruined the homeland of Vivi.

Luffy literally doesn't care about the prisoners though. Buggy and Crocodile are evil pirates compared to the Straw Hats. It's actually one of the most interesting parts of OP, and completely consistent with the portrayal of pirates and marines alike as morally ambiguous. Luffy is not meant to be a good person.

>no his father is a anarchist
No he isnt. He's just against the world noble and world government shit because they are so obviously very shady and harming development of nations.

>I despise this trope so fucking much. You almost never see this shit in Western media, yet Japanese media for children keeps glorifying criminal organizations by saying how "nice" they are to people while conveniently ignoring all of the people they murder, rape, extort, scam, and steal from to gain their power. This is also a problem I have with Jojo Part 5, it shoe-horns in the benevolent Yakuza trope into the Italian Mafia.
Not gonna disagree that the glorification of the yakuza gets old sometimes but you do realize you're reading a manga about criminals right?

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Is there no One Piece anime this week?

Correction. Foreign influences. A person to anyone with sense is a person none the less. Now a group of people, that can get someone mad enough to start to discriminate.

Organised crime does not run on the legs of idiots. It wouldn't last very long if it did. In the world of today everything moves so fast, I don't think there's time for grudges (much less bigotry) unless its a personal matter.

That being said, I probably still wouldn't come out of the closet around Yakuza.

Oda keeps rustling Nip's jimmies with his jokes

In about 9 weeks

unironically, plenty of times, they are just trying to buy way to heaven so fuck them
t. beaner

>Luffy is not meant to be a good person.
I disagree, Luffy is clearly meant to be the hero in most situations in the series. Anytime outside of Impel Down he does something morally ambiguous it's on the behalf of someone else (Law fucking with Doffy's crew and Bege wanting to kill Big Meme)

>Buggy released most if not all of the prisoners
No, he only released the ones on level 2 or so.
Luffy and co. released the prisoners on lower floors like 5 and 4 as they made their escape.
Finally, Blackbeard incited a battle royale on level 6 to choose who to take with him. A lot more prisoners than the just the winners escaped afterwards.

In Luffy's defense, he pretty much left the worst of the worst locked up on level 6. Jinbe and Crocodile were the only ones there he released, and only Crocodile actually deserved to be imprisoned there.

NGO's normally are like church, some good willed low rank members and a directive that is morally grey at best. The truth is that big NGO's only care about making money. Also foreing actors follow their own agendas normally, they want a good public image or worse

>HUNDRED THOUSAND people gone missing ANNUALLY?
Source?

Western mafia movies are about how on the surface the mafia seems cool, but if you get past that it's completely terrible.

Well there are plenty of heist movies where you are full on supposed to root for the criminal protagonists.

The Oceans movies come to mind.

Oh organized crime, I can't read.

Yeah, I dunno about any movie about organized crime that fully glorifies the characters

I pictured that as the old boss being one of those “Mustache Pete” types who want to stick to the old standbys of extortion, loansharking, racketeering, and gambling, only to be replaced by a Lucky Luciano type who want to expand into more unsavory enterprises like prostitution and drugs. Also, Overhaul could represent the more violent generation of bosses that replaced the original heads of the five families. I’m personally not too knowledgeable about the Yakuza, but I know the American Mafia used to have a rule against attacking anyone considered “incorruptible” because it’s bad for PR.

>glorifying criminals is fine
>underage drinking and smoking are not
they are retarded

Old dude is 100% a good guy. He was ready to give his life for Luffy.

This is done because most entertainment industry is ran by Yakuza. Don't wanna condemn them and lose your job or even worse go missing.

>Pablo Escobar was still portrayed sympathetically.
He was portrayed sympathetically but the series never fucking pretends that he's a good guy with all the fucked up shit he does.
>. Remember how incensed he got when that detective killed that kid
And remember how most people knew that it was bullshit and that he didn't actually give a shit because ultimately scared of the detective and was looking for anyway out?
Or how he ends up bombing those same poor people anyway proving that he actually didn't give a shit?

Walt was in no way portrayed as a good guy, especially as the series goes on. And he's left bleeding to death on the floor alone with everyone he ever loved hating him for his actions.

Holyland did a good job portraying the Yakuza. They where barely in the story, but they made it very clear that if the street thugs in the story went out of line (dealing drugs for one), they would step in and things where going to get really ugly.

Because the Yakuza are more benevolent then the average criminal gang organizations. They've been around since the 16th century after all. They are also more integrated into society, and its hardly a new thing either.

>They where barely in the story, but they made it very clear that if the street thugs in the story went out of line (dealing drugs for one), they would step in and things where going to get really ugly.
But the Yakuza deal more drugs then anyone in Japan? What bullshit is this.

It means that drug dealing is Yakuza's privilege in jap metro. Anyone who wanna do that business over there has to get through to them.

>Because the Yakuza are more benevolent then the average criminal gang organizations.
Fuck off Yakuza shill.

the difference between the yakuza and organized crime in the west is that much of what the yakuza does is actually legitimate business, and they do actually help their community, while continuing to run their criminal businesses in the shadows.

You're a retard for believing this.

>you're a retard for believing the truth
okay, I guess I'm a retard.

the difference is a yakuza boss has yet to be elected to japan's seat of power, but three of the POTUS have been high ranking CEO's of corporate crime families

>Then WSJ might as well not write about yakuza at all
This. Nobody is forcing them to include the Yakuza in their stories. If they're not gonna portray them as the evil bastards that they really are, then don't use them at all. Don't indoctrinate children with this "Yakuza aren't so bad, they can be good" crap. All the people citing the Godfather, Breaking Bad or whatever are missing the point. Those are works meant for adults, not children.

Well the us has the cia, which uses mafia assets quite freely.
Its not part of the culture though

>who want to stick to the old standbys of extortion, loansharking, racketeering, and gambling
But those are still bad things that hurt "honest folks".

One Piece has always romanticised the "Ninkyo" culture. Won't be the last time Oda does this.

Not that user, but it's a fair enough observation. I'd sooner live in a society without organised criminals, but if I'm forced to choose one then it will have to be the yakuza.

Of course, do tell me about a gentler, less violent group of organised criminals. I'd like to make an informed choice when it comes to the criminals I'm forced to live with.

Fucking this. My blood fucking evaporates every time I see this shit.

japan is very much like russia

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>momonosuke will protect and sacrifice himself for otama because he loves her

MO ship is happening

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Croc dominating the panels.

What about "Ichi the killer" And other seinen manga? Most shounen manga is for kids of course they won't show blood, murder and rape.

>This is also a problem I have with Jojo Part 5, it shoe-horns in the benevolent Yakuza trope into the Italian Mafia.
Yeah, I don't like that aspect of the series either. "The Mafia has to protect people, the police and courts are corrupt. Look, this mafia boss made everybody treat Giorno nicely by threatening to murder people who won't", conveniently ignoring the fact that the Mafia are the reason the cops and courts are corrupt in the first place, who do you think is bribing them? Notice how easily Bruno got Mista's conviction overturned, you don't think that the Mafia does the same thing to get actual murderous non-nice criminals to walk? And "we don't sell drugs to children", yeah, but they still want to sell drugs to adults, which is still pretty bad. Not to mention all of the other criminal activities of the mafia that negatively affect common citizens and society in general.
It gets even dumber when you get to Abbacchio's backstory, where suddenly cops are actually nice dudes who can't do anything because all Italian citizens are corrupt ungrateful assholes. And then Abbacchio gets kicked off the force for taking a bribe, which is a pretty unrealistic thing to happen in a corrupt system.

>And other seinen manga?
There are plenty of old seinen manga that makes Yakuza seem cool, even if a little villainous, Sanctuary and the like are classic examples, and the Ichi the Killer example you mentioned portrays every single characters as being fucked in the head, Yakuza or not.

>seinen manga
Hinamatsuri is a gag seinen manga about esper girls interacting with the most bumbling Yakuza around, they are shown to be violent sometimes but they are all portayed in a good light.

Does En fall under this trope?

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Is this ironic? The Yakuza game series is all about them being fucking men of vallour, only a few of them are outright shown as completely irredeemable but most of the time is "he is kinda bad, but he was a real man!".

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Dorohedoro as a whole is about making murderous people seem cozy amongst themselves.

Westerners feel uncomfortable every time they see a villain who is not the worst villain who ever villained. That's why capeshit retards exist.

>The Yakuza game series is all about them being fucking men of vallour, only a few of them are outright shown as completely irredeemable
isn't that in reverse?
only played Zero but out of 1000+ yakuza members you see in the game, only main characters and maybe 3-4 supporting ones are what you could call straight up guys caught up in a bad business

that's just America

>Westerners feel uncomfortable every time they see a villain who is not the worst villain who ever villained
What the fuck are you talking about? The most popular villains in the West are usually the more complex and charming ones who aren't just pure evil. Since you mentioned superhero movies, notice how the most popular villains in the MCU are Thanos and Loki, because they're actually complex and have nuance.

Gambling is a victimless crime. No one can put a gun to your head and make you gamble, it's a choice you make. Same for loansharking.

That's kind of what I got out of it. All of the guys at the top of the pyramid are trashbags, but the fellows who don't matter are the ones who are just fairly decent dudes with no other avenues but crime.

The real difference is that yakuza are Japanese while American organized crime are of each ethnic.

so Italians would think mafioso are helpful to their community (or at least just the Sicilians) but the Irish and Blacks probably don't
and then you got the Anglos that think they are all scum so who cares whether the foreigners think they were good boys

>t Jew

You can't whitewash the actions of the equivalent gangs in the West considering it's all just mexicans and basketball americans.
At least Japan's autism to societal knee-bending is strong enough that the Yakuza run halloween parties for the neighbourhood kids and help out during natural disasters alongside their degeneracy.

That dude doesn't have shapeshifting devil fruit powers, the way he shrunk is too extreme for me to accept even in this setting.

It exploits human weakness and destroys lives. Not even to mention that that gambling is usually rigged and you either can't win or won't walk too far even if you somehow do. Otherwise you can say the same for almost everything that gangsters do.
>heh, they should have just known better :^)

What about the ninja woman? Not like this is the first absurd change in OP.

The American Mafia is basically a senior citizen social club for dirty real estate developers now. The days of melting dudes in acid and breaking arms is over.

Well you should know better. I don't gamble, the odds are too long and the risk is too big and the addiction is possible. If you do it, its all on you. There's little difference between gambling with mobsters and gambling in a casino.

>You can't whitewash the actions of the equivalent gangs in the West considering it's all just mexicans and basketball americans.
The American mafia was never glorified as the Yakuza are you fucking idiot.

>At least Japan's autism to societal knee-bending is strong enough that the Yakuza run halloween parties for the neighbourhood kids
Propaganda. I won't say that some Yakuza don't do it because they like kids but its primarily to create a positive image for the Yakuza which idiots like you fall for.

She's fat but closer to her original size. Hyougoro is like one fifth of how tall he used to be.

Caramel cared for linlin but only for her own benefits

En felt more like a feudal lord to me, I don't remember any other organized magic user authority

>What is Inuyashiki?

I used to think like this about the Yakuza games, but after I finally played Yakuza 0, Kiryu was the only actual good Yakuza, he was said to be clearly in denial about the actual Yakuza and the people who were in it were shown to be evil psychos who only cared about power and were easily willing to kill anyone to further their goals.

I don't think OP laments a lack of criticism of the yakuza, but the very existence of positive portraits of the yakuza. One Piece's yakuza boss in the OP has an evil counterpart and a lot of mangos portray the yakuza as money hungry scumbags.

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Hinamatsuri is a weird example, while the Yakuza are shown to be incompetent, aside from Nitta, they aren't really good people, they nearly tortured and killed Nitta over a fake text message, made him go on a suicide mission to kill a different gang, and the other gangs are shown regularly to be murderous, Nitta has been nearly killed multiple times.

Oh I get that, I think the exact same as OP does, especially when retarded westerners try to justify them, but after playing through Yakuza 0, that's not really the case as based on it and spoilers of Yakuza 1, Kiryu is the only person who's not a bad person, and he's barely even a Yakuza in the first place. Even his foster father Kazama only got to his position by murdering a shit ton of innocent people.

What is this?

Didn’t the yakuza help out in Japan after that nuke plant nearly melted down?

>Akame ga Kill's biggest retardation was trying to say Night Raid was as bad as the Empire
Just leave it at that. Because the empire was ridiculously bad, it's important leaders so evil that they turn pretty much most other evil nations (Star Wars Empire, i.e.) into a lesser evil. To say that Night Raid is the same because they kill people is dumb. Jesus, the revolutionaries could have massacred a village of empire supporters, and they would still appear better, that's how black the empire was.

Only to garner support. And even evil people can do some basic helping when such a huge event goes down.

Yeah cuz twenty, four-ton trucks filled with food, water, paper products, blankets and clothing is basic support

And that was only one of the yakuza groups

The funny thing is that Nisekoi ALSO whitewashes the Chinese Triads to an even more disgusting degree.

for me one thing is to show mafia as good guys, in the sense of "compared to all the rest", like, this mafia group takes care of their members and families, dont go around backstabbing people on their deal, and try to avoid dragging innocent into their shit, but they steal, kill, corrupt and do whatever shit organized crime does, just that they keep it withing the underworld. Similar how pirate stories can show good pirates that simple keep their shit withing themselves, and maybe a clearly corrupt and evil trading company, but dont drag innocents into their shit.

>Extorts your family
>Kidnaps your sister and force her to sell her body
>Produce hardcore CP
>Sadistically torture people
>Kills you
They honestly seem pretty ba-
>Use 0.0001% of their shady money to provide basic support in emergencies leading to better reputation among the populace, easier recruitment in the future, less people being willing to cooperate with the police against them and even foreigners on an imageboard will defend them to try and make them look like honorable people
Welp. Guess they're the good guys after all.

I can't begin to describe how naive you are if you think they're providing support altruistically.

I noticed a similar thing with delinquents. They glorify them as "cool" badasses who protect their neighborhood rather than the gangs of rapists, petty crooks and ne'er do wells they really are.

>steal, kill, corrupt and do whatever shit organized crime does
>avoid dragging innocent into their shit
Yeah, that's not how it works, buddy. They steal from either the government which is YOUR money, safety, quality of life, etc or from business which in turn again puts the burden on you. Sure, they can try to steal from "bad" gangsters but that would mean war and nobody likes dying. It's simply much more safe and profitable to parasite on innocents.

yeah of course, but you have to think, that one, this is a story, two that is a really indirect way of doing it, one thing is go and steal and ramdom bystander wallet, and another to creep yourself into the system, yeah the latter does more harm, but when showing a plot where a mafia is the main protagonist, this is a better way to show that they are a good mafia, relative speaking of course.

He's right you know

>You almost never see this shit in Western media
MAYBE BECAUSE WESTERN COUNTRIES DON'T FUCKING HAVE YAKUZA
WHY DON'T YOU STUFF A JELLY-FILLED DONUT UP YOUR ASS HOLY SHIT

How much of a brainlet are you holy shit

Why has no one called you a faggot yet?

what's wrong with you? Main characters are fucking pirates.