What is the appeal of genderswap for most people?
What is the appeal of genderswap for most people?
its always been a hard pass for me. i dont know why when i don't really get bothered by yuri or yaoi, but genderswap always makes me cringe.
if theres new chapter let me know otherwise fuck off
>Have to drink 500ml of milk a day
>"I'm gonna die!"
This series is stupid.
Haha
Turns shotas into sexy lolis.
Anime tiddies.
God i wish I was him.
seeing a guy or girl face the other gender's common experience in life, if it's done well. some times simply for the laughs.
The escapist fantasy of not being at the bottom tier of the most expendable half of the population. That can be solved by transforming into an extremely attractive, extremely rich, extremely strong male, or becoming a qt girl.
Stop being gay.
>get 0 bitches as male
>in time strong desire to try ez mode as female develops
>instigated by shitton of doujins written by female authors from female POV
>decades of fap taught intricacies of dick anatomy and developed a horny trigger for dick smell
It's basically
>If I get 0 pussy as male - maybe it'd be easier to get many dicks as female.
Corruption.
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dunno I don't quite understand it myself, had a gender bender fetish since forever and I'm not a tranny or like dick or anything
Ranma 1/2 was a big part of my childhood and one of my first faps. Probably had a big effect of my sexuality growing up. It still holds up well too.
How is it being gay user? Isn't being inside a girl the straightest thing you can do?
I wish that were me
Is this isekai?
Yes.
Picked up!
Self insert as a cute girl
I'd assume because it's usually 50% or more just porn
Still gay.
It's not gay because after GB you're a girl.
Going through with dick lust while having one is.
I hope the manga doesn't run in circles like the LN and goes for the Takuto end.
It doesn't need to be porn to be good.
A man of taste
Mindbreaking a male in a womans body to enjoy the pleasure of being cummed inside
I like seeing their design changed to adapt the new gender.
Also the sudden shock and readjustment is always fun for me.
Genderswap where they look nothing like their original self or instantly accept their new form tends to bore me. Especially hate the "oh they were always feminine anyway so I can't tell the difference!" BS.
Like whats the point then?
>he doesn't actually want to be a cute little girl
why are you posting here?
I want a FemRance game.
>He doesn't want to get turned into a cute girl to get raped by men who are much stronger than you
lmao
Couldn't have said it better myself.
>raped
Gross.
I'm sorry to tell you user, but if you don't want to be her in this position, you're gay
Supreme taste, user
That's not rape though.
>What is the appeal of genderswap for most people?
I don't see dick I don't see a man. I see boobs I see women. In most of series with genderswap we have a lot of yuri and ecchi where main character go with lust. Sometimes funny thinks or interesting women (see tanya degurechaff).
In general I don't see anything good in genderswap, so I can't exactly say why others people prefer this kind of story. I see 3 things like this, accidental and read for plot or boobs not for genderwsap.
I want to be loved gently.
Gender bender is basically an ascended superior version of tomboy. It’s even hotter when it’s a realistic gradual change unlike instant cock-lust like most generic doujins.
I think it's funny it leads to funny character moments and sometimes character growth depending on the show. It's also neat seeing how some of the design of the character geting gender swapped carries over to the other one.
So I can imagine myself as a cute girl.
Mai is a truly wonderful girl.
this is how gender bender should work.
shit that the novel isn't translated anywhere, or atleast i cant find it
>gb isekai
Yes
>/u/
Trash.
...
its heavily implied that shes gonna end up getting with the isekaid best friend
Its a fetish for me. I only prefer the magic type. I'd prefer to switch between the two at will though. But because its fantasy watching and reading about it is wish fulfillment and escapism.
It tingles my pee pee, don't really feel like pretending I have any deeper reason than that.
>girl
Yup. Mai is a cute girl.
That's a manga, not a doujin, right?
Cyclia=Code, yeah.
People selfinsert as the MC, that is now a cute girl, because their original life's are shit and worthless so in their train of thought they have the impression that their lives would have been different if they were being born as a cute girl.
Also they want to live the CGDCT genre.
Don't you like when a girl strongs her bonds with her stepmom and father's mistress.
In this day and age being a cute girl is easy mode for the first 25-30 years of their life. And if they play their cards right they'll be set for life.
Gender bender only exists so that the author can write a female MC without the male audience throwing a tantrum.
>they have the impression that their lives would have been different if they were being born as a cute girl.
Even if my life were exactly the same in every other respect, I'd be cute, which would make it better.
>they want to live the CGDCT genre
Which is also hilarious because that is an ideal that never happens. You want to see how women are when there are multiple ones together? Go to /cgl/ and load up a lolita thread.
Now imagine that in real life with more shit talking, back stabbing, and shit talking. If you have three women together, the moment one of them leaves, the other two will talk so much shit about her.
This manga is the perfect example:
As a guy
>Loser
>Idol freak
>Has no friends in school
As a woman
>Loser
>Idol freak
>Becomes a famous idol
>Has many friends
>Her loser personality makes her the most popular idol
No, that's retarded.
>In general I don't see anything good in genderswap, so I can't exactly say why others people prefer this kind of story. I see 3 things like this, accidental and read for plot or boobs not for genderwsap.
That's because gender bending generally is typically a fetish/wish fulfillment. The ones that actually do seriously deal with gender issues and the psychological and social implications of gender switching are on a much higher tier in quality, but they are rarely done.
Why are you talking about 3D?
Feminization in most of its forms is hot as fuck, and gender bending is the most extreme version of it. Turning a boy into a girl, both physically and mentally, hits the fetish parts of my brain so hard that not even diamond-strong is good enough to describe my boner.
>/cgl/
Holy shit, why does this board exist, I just took a quick look and most of them sound like women venting her issues and wanting to bitch about anything.
Couldn’t have said better myself. The idea of dominating another man so hard they become a woman in mind and body is amazing, especially if it ends in the genderbent dude getting impregnated and having children
Replace women with men in that sentence and you'd be describing most other boards.
All right there's a lot to unpack here.
First of all there's the escapism wish fulfillment aspect of the audience actually wanting to be a girl. Be it for the social advantages, the easier lifestyle, the benefits or maybe just to have access to boobs to fondle even if they're their own. That aspect is its own huge can of worms probably worth an entire discussion for itself. But this aspect works with the audience's empathy and relatability to the main character, they want to experience what they experience and the excitement that comes from all of it is a big part of GB's appeal.
Outside of that there's the appeal of the MC who is now a girl herself. All of those genderbended girls are pretty cute, even if they were regular girls they'd usually be among top percent cutest girls because they often carry with them a lot of insecurities and shyness because they're not accustomed to their bodies, that along with innocence and some curiosity about themselves is very sexy too. They're basically exploring their sexuality but instead of being young girls growing up they're generally already physically mature young women which is a sort of sexy gap.
The genderbended girls can also be seen as sort of hyper tomboys, pretty much all of the advertised tomboy features but taken to an extreme degree. They're cute girls who are even more relatable than tomboys because they used to be guys. This can make them more attractive as girls but it can also make the story itself more relatable to a guy.
The ongoing psychological transformation is also an appeal, it works like a kind of corruption but not necessarily with all the moral degeneration.
There's an inherent appeal in that slow gradual but constant shift, a being that doesn't stay the same and constantly evolves to become more and more feminine. Some self insert into it, others want to fuck it.
Which brings me to the final aspect, the pleasure of dominating and breaking down a guy who is a girl, making them a proper woman.
I blame female doujin authors.
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Rest in peace, Krizalid
Also, what was the name of that manga where a guy goes away for a bit and comes back to find a loli alien has transformed his entire boys-obly school into girls? I thought it was Reversible School or something, but I'm getting it confused with that one trap manga.
boys-only*
That's a great thing right there.
I think that Oshimi Shuzo once stated it best - there's an inherent wonder in what is on the other side of the gender barrier. I mean, when you think about it, you have a chance, no matter how small, of being anything - a gangster, a politician, an astronaut. But knowing how it's like to be born and raised as a girl? That's only something women know, and to get an explanation from them is as difficult as explaining to them what makes being born and raised as a guy special.
While I do understand the ways it can provoke a specific fetish for people, for me it always has been more of a philosophical question. If you were born a girl and nothing else changed, would your life be better or worse for it? How would the way people treat you change? It carries an It's a Wonderful Life vibe.
While only semi-related, it also forces the author to become creative. For your average harem series, the author will usually make the MC as generic as possible so that the audience can self-insert themselves into him. But for all the other girls, which are obviously there for eye candy, the author gives them all sorts of varied designs and personalities. So when the MC gets genderbent, the author needs to suddenly go back to their original design and try to turn it into something that's serviceable. Take pic related - notice how in the series where the male characters are generic, the female version must be changed in a subtle way to compensate. Before you ask, I'm saving Ranma for the end. If you can think of any other colorized examples, let me know.
>shoujo art
No thanks.
If you can get past that, they're both very good.
The best part about genderbender is ecchi. These 2 have no ecchi, right?
>ecchi
>not deepthroat
From my point GB is just a roundabout to appeal to romancefags, yurifags or yaoifags, there are some works that show how a girl(before boy) fall in love with a girl and how that girl falls in love with MC-chan.
On the other side, you can make a guy(now girl) fall in love with another guy which he can know or not about the past of MC-chan. So you can sell your shitty story to a good amount of people by only using GB temes in it.
There's a very small amount of ecchi, but no, it's definitely not the focus. However, if you get off to the slow mental feminization and choosing to stay as a woman (like me), then you'll probably enjoy them.
unbalance school life
Thank you.
Man, the ending for that was shit. I get it was cancelled, but it should have expanded on its premise better.
nice dubs and pic user
>The best part about genderbender is ecchi
Not when the best ongoing generbender manga right now is a non-h slice of life.
Boku Girl will always be the best genderbender manga
I kinda knew that the ending wouldn't be good, but I though the autor will drag it long enough, like the onee-san manga, so I could get more cute Midoris
It's not ongoing and it is nowhere near the best of the genre. The last 60 or so chapters was a disaster.
Nope.
Agreed. I think the manga was more successful than the author expected so he had no plan for keeping the story going. Boku Girl would have been much better without the filler and without a rushed ending.
Name 1 (one) genderbender manga that's better than Boku Girl, I'll wait
Banging your bro
Ame Nochi Hare, Kanojo ni Naru Hi, Kanojo ni Naru Hi Another, Nozomu Nozomi, Onii-chan is Done For, Remix Heart.
I wrote a 2k char essay on why I'm into the TG scene, with extra bits on why I'm not a trapfag and generally dislike self inserts but the main point boils down to this:
It makes my pee pee hard
You mean being banged by your bro.
>I think the manga was more successful than the author expected so he had no plan for keeping the story going. Boku Girl would have been much better without the filler and without a rushed ending.
Pretty much, the series had a fast slide in quality once they started adding more and more cast members just to draw out the story. Then the manga-ka didn't have a contingency plan once he was told to wrap it up.
Like many manga-ka, they assumed a little burst of popularity can let them draw out the manga for perpetuity.
But, does it make your heart go doki doki?
It's because you are in love with your dick, and anything that raises the potential of losing it triggers a subconscious feeling of revulsion in you.
No, not really. I'm a mindbreak fag myself and prefer selfinserting as the breaker instead or the breakee. I've tried not thinking much about the alleged homosexuality of this fetish as I consider myself to be straight.
Yeah, that stream of characters whose job was to cuntblock Mizuki was really annoying. The author should have found another way to keep the story going.
Genderbender stories are always better when the genderbending is a secondary element to the main story.
I hope that Mahiro will succumb to cocklust soon.
Mira's smug could conquer the universe.
She looks like she's about to show us the finger trick
That the greatest sign of weakness of a storyteller, to rely on new characters to move the exposition and storytelling forward as opposed to using already established main characters and secondary characters.
That is true to a point, a good gender bender should stand up on its own without gender bending elements. For example, it should be a good adventure, slice of life, romance, harem, etc even if you took out gender bending.
When did Mira get sizable breasts? I don't remember them bring that big.
She's a big girl
For you.
Congratulations, you just outed yourself.
Genderbent characters peeing themselves is the hottest thing ever.
It's very cute when tomboyish characters are forced to act feminine. Really, I'm more about the mental aspect of it than anything else.
Piss fetishists are beyond degenerate. Hang yourself.
Boku Girl had a great beginning, but it absolutely shit the bed around the middle and went absolutely nowhere. I'm not even mad about the ending, but I am fucking pissed that the story could have easily ended 20 chapters earlier. Loki and the female love interest were underused as fuck, and that pisses me off even further. Even if MC ends up with the guy at the end, at least have a few arcs where that might not look to be the case to keep things interesting; rather than just an endless stream of 'will they, won't they?' non-events.
It doesn't really appeal to me but it also doesn't disgust me. Then I get disappointed in it since there was no reason for having one in the first place instead of using a girl/guy or the author didn't actually care about the ramifications of it. Since the author makes the protag want to change back I root for the MC's wish, which is never actually going to happen as genderbending series are primarily motivated by it being the writer's fetish. Since it's their fetish it makes them sper blind to what they just wrote.
Eg Boku girl is a series about a guy forced into a different gender that is immediately and repeatedly molested instead of earnest attempts at attempting to help his best friend, meanwhile his mind is being brainwashed into enjoying his situation by a capricious god until it is repeatedly hammered down that he should just give up and stay a girl. To hell with all of his old wants, needs, and yearnings.
Then to top it off the best girl loses and is NTRed by her own brother.
Did he ever even confess to his female love interest or at least did somebody tell that clueless ditz that MC liked her?
Does _The World of Moral Reversal_ count as genderbend?
>manga
not really
BUT...
Nope. Only the concepts of genders are switched, not the actual genders themselves.
Yeah, it challenges the gender norms, so it is a "gender bender" in the definitional sense. It isn't a gender bender by the storytelling norms of Japanese comics and cartoons.
Your post is true in all realties.
KYONKO A CUTE
That's right! His younger sister was amazing.
New chapter of Magical Trans out
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Unironically wanting to be the gf
>Not wanting to be your own girlfriend.
I want to be girlfriend to a girlfriend.
Not a good chapter, the censoring is rich.