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Are you ready for best calamity to show Jack how it's done?

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luffys rubber ass is about to get bounced

Patiently waiting for spoilers.

are any of the one piece movies canon?

Luffy can't be poisoned so Queen HIV won't harm him

No

any of you fags getting world seeker next week?

Thread reminder that Vivi will rejoin the crew as the 10th and final SH, and will be the next user of the Nikyu fruit
No, the only thing movie related that its canon its episode/chapter 0

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if you want to spam your shit every thread at least learn interpunction or don't use it at all

So do ninjas know special CoO tactics or are many of them just df users?

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Probably the latter, Raizo for example probably has the clone fruit

those are pure ninja arts from superior country

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No

>clone fruit
Nigger what that's just a honorary nod to naruto

HIV is not really a harmful disease and it doesn’t lead to Aids. That’s a pseudoscience myth they taught you in school.

Has Franky mentioned cola once since the time skip? Are we sure he runs on cola still?

Carrot is the only attractive female in the Straw Hat crew

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Yea unless he said otherwise he still does. Cola is a powerful fuel.

You're right.

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i want Carrot gf

Oda would have a hard time explaining that if they are not DF related powers. For what we've seen they truly dont know the difference between DF powers and ninja techniques(see pic related, Shinobu's rotten justsu and Kinemon's Fuku fuku)so DF are the most likely explantion
>that's just a honorary nod to naruto
No shit Sherlock. That doesnt change the fact that Raizo can somehow create clones

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What do you think Queens DF power is?

it's ninja arts i don't have to explain shit

same as yours
faggot faggot fruit

bounce house no mi

please change your name, thanks

Ancient Tiger Zoan Model: Sabertooth

t - chidf

Yeah

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STD fruit.

I wonder if the nidai kitetsu and and shodai kitetsu will look similar, as if they were triplets

I think this man will become an Admiral.

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6 4 89
but in all honesty, hopefully something like a cambrian animal along the lines of a trilobite, slug/snail, clam or centipede. scorpion wouldve been cool but i doubt it after last week.

Jack is the best calamity but I am very excited for Queen's entrance.
Carrot after Jack's invasion:
FULL HP.
Wanda after Jack's invasion (I THINK) full HP.
Every other mink? Wounded near to death.

Carrot or Wanda or both are traitors to Pedro and the Minks.
Carrot had no excuse to be in perfect shape except Jack's forces went easy on her. When Zoro was WASN'T on of Jack's forces shows up, and he's not in view of neko and friends,, she immediately tries to assassinate him for Kaido.

Where is he now?

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delete this

Retard here please explain some context.

Guarding Vegapunk

Coby will, this dude is irrelevant

recent sbs where oda drew zoro's swords if they were people

This looks like porn euphemism.

Didn't queen already get there at the end of last chapter?

then why did she cry over pedro

How should Carrot or Wanda be the traitors if they were in Zou all the time? Jack had got the vivre card outside of Zou. Rather, someone from Wano makes more sense than two characters that were in Zou the whole time.

Fuck you. Coby runs from battle. Sentomaru has the world's strongest guard.

Will based Smoker become an admiral by the end?

they're going to appoint him jobber at the end of the series

Probably
Coby will be Fleet Admiral
3 admirals at the end of the series will probably be Helmeppo, Smoker and maybe Sentomaru or some other jobber

Spoilers when?

Probably unless he pulls out a Garp and refuses the invitation. Im more interested in having him fight Luffy 1v1 as a equals

Fujitora deserves to stay

next week

he's going to die in the end war though

Fujitora will be dead

Can't wait for more of Based Boomer so drawanon can draw more of him

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I bet he'd end up defecting to Luffy's side but gains his Admiral status back after the WG gets taken over by Dragon. (or he dies protecting luffy)

Only if Sentomaru retires early or gets promoted to Fleet Admiral.

>fat sissy goes off in his mobility scooter/motorcycle hybrid to visit his weight gain slave camp ran by deformed furries designed to break the wills of rebellious nips and brazilian twinks

hot

Every week my souls in the sword Kuina is in Wado Ichimonji theory gets hinted as true.

Crocodile tears.

At this point I wont be surprised if Coby is already stronger than that Jobber.

Strong world it’s implied it happened, and could very well fit between triller bark and shabody

Who was from Wano? You think Nekomamushi is the traitor?
A non mink wouldn't be able to betray the minks, we saw how tight lipped they were, except for 'someone'.

Carrot was undamaged by Jack's invasion. You cannot explain this away when all the other minks were fucked up bad. Carrot wasn't targeted seriously or only half assed fighting Kaido's forces, but she legitimately tried to KILL Zoro IMMEDIATELY when she saw him. That's inconsistent, since if she was that way to Kaido's forces, why is she full HP when everyone else is badly hurt, bandaged, limping, or laying in a hospital bed?

This is the elepehant in the room that proves Carrot is the traitor.

Actually you're probably right considering the heavy handed garp/roger similarities he and luffy have

one piece

Bullshit. Strong World is by far the least canon and most nonsensical movie in the entire series

>Wanomart

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>Are you ready for the best calamity to show...
And He jobbed.

What about the part after or before was it? That they reach the Red line and catch Camie where Brook says he looked forward to fighting for the SHs since he hasn't done it yet. He fought in SW, if it were canon he wouldn't have said that.

Akainu will forgive Fujitora after Wano. Blackbeard will control Marijoas.
Akainu and Fujitora and Kizaru will defect (only Kizaru will job).
Green Bull will take over the Marines, with Blackbeard in Imu's position of power, and all remaining non deserting elements of the WG military power will serve Blackbeard.

THEN he will be readying to kill Shanks.

Praline a super cutie!

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>Kaidou owes Big Mom an enormous and lifelong dept
>She visits Wano to take Luffy's head, nothing more, and uses the back entrance to avoid disturbing Kaidou
>He sends King to make her drown
What a jerk.

>Akainu will
>forgive

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Nah, none of the movies or their associated tankoban like volume 0, volume 777, or volume 1000, or etc, are canon. They are very fun and worth watching and reading though user.

It's possible Akainu will not defect since Aokiji joined Blackbeard, I suppose, but I figured the reason Blackbeard has Aokiji is literally so he can deal with Akainu once he takes control of the throne.

I come home to this every night

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>if you come here, i'll kill you
>hahahamamamama, yeah right
>AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH BOBBIN SAVE ME

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>Carrot was undamaged by Jack's invasion
That, or she simply received medical attention afterwards.
>Why is she full HP when everyone else
But not everyone else was injured, Wanda was fine as well.

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I do not need to explain anything as long as I know that Carrot and Wanda have been in Zou all the time confirming that neither of these two traitors are because Jack got the vivre card outside of Zou and not within Zou.

I guess Akainu might job; you're right. I think Blackbeard needs Aokiji to either:
1. Sneak into the freezer where the hat is, since he's an ice man and can travel there undetected as a result.
2. Block Akainu's reaction to whatever Blackbeard's big plan is, since Akainu will probably not want to bend the knee.

I don't really see it anymore. Maybe Pre Time skip but he's on way too good terms with Luffy now. What made the Rodger/Garp rivalry work so well is that they fought countless times, possibly to near death, but in the end still respected the other. Luffy and Smoker already have that friendly type of relationship anyway. Not to mention Smoker's lost to Doffy, Vergo and Law. He just doesn't seem that credible anymore.

I really hope Aladin and Pekoms survived so they can join the SH grand fleet. I like them

Considering the flashbacks it's pretty clear Carrot was not faking it

Will the charlotes look like their mother at old age?

I love them!!!

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Pekoms took a scythe to the eyes. If he's not dead then he's crippled for life.

fake flashbacks

no but your mother will

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I want retarded Pekoms to join the fleet

Carrot is too much of a slut to fake it

he can sit on the ship and look all menacing

Just read the spoilers.
One word: SaNa

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Did he retire from being a pirate or join shanks crew

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HIT THE ROAD JACK
AND DON'T COME BACK TO ZOU TO ZOU TO ZOU
HIT THE ROAD JACK
AND DON'T COME BACK NO MORE

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Considering things happen after flashbacks it doesn't matter, but that said I am more convinced that Wanda is the traitor.
As an earlier poster said she's just like Carrot except she DID leave Zou.

Chapter will be:
>Queen hears a disturbance
>"Oh ho looks like we got a sweet canary chirping in the coal mines, singing for a beating"
>Chapter cuts to Law, Franky, Usopp doing whatever for the rest of the chapter
>OP will be on break again next week

Jinbei took a magma fist in the gut and is fine, Pekoms probably just lost one eye. I really want to see him inheriting Pedro's will and, together with Carrot, create the dawn pirates

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He's part of the Beast Pirates. Hopefully, we see him soon

I'd fuck Pudding if she got as fat as her mom.
Long as she doesn't get the nose.

stegosaurus zoan fruit. You can tell by the way the hair is braided on xer back. Probably "tortures" people by rolling them on the spikes i guess

Pudding is perfect the way she is!

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But if she's fatter there is more of her perfectness to go around!

Can you weirdos stop fapping to Praline for two seconds and acknowledge Lady Custard?

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>xer

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Are those threads really full of degenerates or most of you fuckers are just larping out of boredom?

>"You know, Luffy, with great power comes great Freedom. Gol D Roger called it "The human burden." Myself, I just call it as I see it: the responsibility of the master to discipline the servant."
>Shanks looks directly at the camera.
>"The fishmen, the okamas, the giants...It's our responsibility to civilize them. And if we can't? Then they shall dangle from the adam tree. The Day of the Rope is near, Luffy. We'll have every fishman under the sea dead or in chains in 10 years, and may God have me lose my arm to a weak ass seaking this very night if I'm wrong. God bless the World Government Gorosei party."

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I'd fuck Pudding but only if she were as tall as her mother.

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Based

Who do you expect to voice the new characters in the anime? I imagine Orochi as either Akio Ohtsuka or Wataru Takagi, both of which already voice OP characters.

I wanna give loli brulee her first dicking

>except she DID leave Zou
when did this happen

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I bet that the tree contains the soul of her father after BM killed him

She was a member of the Nox Pirates

I think he killed rockstar and took his position

While possible I'm pretty sure this has never been stated

Her bounty is 236 million.

based and redhairedpilled

Source?

Vivre Card

>Anne was "a weak, irresolute woman beset by bedchamber quarrels and deciding high policy on the basis of personalities"
>In the opinion of historians, traditional assessments of Anne as fat, constantly pregnant, under the influence of favourites
i think i found linlin (minus the "weak" part)

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sounds like all women to me tbqhwy

>He thinks Oda would make the final villain a woman
C'mon user, you're smarter than this

???????????

Oh sry, had a stroke and read Im instead of Linlin

>"You know, Toko, with great gold comes great Sexually Transmitted Diseases. Kureha called it "The prostitute's burden." Myself, I just call it as I see it: the responsibility of the master to discipline the servant."
>Komurasaki looks directly at the camera.
>"The noblemen, the Shogun, the Samurai...It's our responsibility to cuck them. And if we can't? Then they shall dangle from the BDSM tree. The Day of the Rope is near, Toko. We'll have every Wano under the sea dead or in chains in 10 years, and may Kyoshiro cut me down this very night if I'm wrong. God bless the Third Wave Feminist Movement."

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Why the fuck would there be a national funeral for a prostitute? Wano is so pathetic

based and chadpilled

cringe and thotpilled

Okay so Carrot isn't the traitor. Wanda isn't the traitor. I thought one of them was, but this discussion convinced me I was wrong.
I must say then that Sicilian the Lion Mink is the traitor, who betrayed out of cowardice. My evidence for this is that Luffy did not like him, calling him a stick in the mud.
Even though none of the references are direct, there's a lot of traitor characters that have that phrased used about them in literature.

Toko when she finds out she can cuck men out of their money when she gets older

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Carrot is the only attractive female in the Straw Hat crew

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There are no traitors, at best they tricked one of the minks who were part of Pedro's crew, either that or there is a mink in Kaido's crew

Where the fuck are the spoilers!

>"All this talk about responsibility and prostitutes is really starting to piss me off!"
>kyoshiro wipes off the fresh whore's blood from his face and looks directly at the camera
>"If anyone tries to start shit, just kill them. That's what I always say"

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Ms Fat Booty

I don't agree but your claim is reasonable since the Mink's were shown as a very very loyal people.
Here's the thing though the minks were also shown to be super good at lying and already super successfully lied to the reader once.
Either no anons at all or barely any predicted he would actually be there like Jack had been claiming. Those minks are top tier loyal braves but also top tier at deception. It's impressive how Jack was able to remain steadfast in his conviction when it seemed like he was just slaughtering them for no reason, and all would die even though they told the truth. Instead he was right and they were lying like he said.

>next nakama
Luffy might take him solely because he's a samurai and samurais are cool

No you did not. Here she is
>fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ogre
>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ching_Shih
Also I wish I remembered the name of that indian goddess who ate her children but I just don't.

What about pre-timeskip Nami before she became a pair of tits with long hair?

Then Sicilian would be an apt enemy for Carrot: as he was the mentor who rejected her because he deemed her too weak and without potential it would be fitting she defeats him, proving she surpassed him after training under Pedro, who recognized her potential.
That or the traitor is someone else who defeats Sicilian and then Carrot must face, still to prove she surpassed him thanks to Pedro.

Nami became a walking pair of tits in the latter half of the middle portion of pre-TS.

Fishman bastard! Stole my waifu! Get him Big Mom Pirates! REEE!!

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She was a flatty in comparison... actually was it after Absalom molested her in the bathroom that she became a walking talking pair of tits? Maybe doing that again would reverse the issue?

Why do millenials hate big tits so much?

I can't believe they let Raimi direct the One Piece live action series

I usually find when Oda draws Nami in revealing clothing, or no clothing at all, she often gains massive tits.

185504851
Why do retards like shitpost about millenials for easy yous?

I'd say she was rather well endowed in W7 already.

Pleb taste detected

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She tasted Absalom’s dick that’s why her tits grow so much.

nothing will top Skypiea Nami tho

attempted Wano deep lore drop:
My hypothesis is that Kuina committed suicide because her brother wrecked her just as hard as she wrecked Zoro. Otherwise it doesn't even make sense that she would take her dad's statement seriously. Zoro was never allowed to meet or go anywhere near Kyoshiro, Koshiro's former disciple who left to join a different gym that matched his delinquent philosophies instead of his dumb old man's.

Zoro was stated as the strongest of Koshiro's gym, meaning that technically Kuina was not a member of it (she wears different clothing as well, it's a very subtle, revealed thing that's not directly said out loud "Kuina wasn't a member of Koshiro's gym but Zoro was and they fought 2000 times and Zoro lost all of them), though she was Koshiro's daughter. She was outside his gym for a different reason than Kyoshiro, she could not be a member because she was a girl. She learned swordsmanship anyway, but the opposite of Zoro's accusation that Koshiro had trained her extra, she was just that good from watching without even being allowed to be a real member of the gym (heavy headcanon I'm aware). This may be really significant, or it may be a misunderstanding from numerous potential translation errors, but as I read it in english where I can find it, it's what it says (specifically that Zoro was #1 strongest in the gym, making it impossible for Kuina who never lost to him and didn't wear the gym's Gi to be part of it).

Zoro's gym symbol has 2 swords, and on top of that, it is shown in Ipponmatsu's sword shop where Sandai Kitetsu and Yubishiri (now broken/dissolved by acid except the hilt and honorably retired by Zoro). Ipponmatsu's sword shop is stated as over 250 years old, which may be the time from whence the time lady comes from, since it's not proven how ancient she is yet.

I do believe that Ipponmatsu's family story and the reason they started that sword shop and had Sandai Kitetsu AND Yubishiri was because of the time lady. CONTINUED

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>yfw the next chapter turns into Mad Max Fury Road

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Zoro fucking sucks. Nami should have been the first mate.

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(continued)
Therefore Ipponmatsu's ancestor from clock lady's time had a crescent moon tattoo on his ankle, and he fled Wano and started this sword shop, in possession of SANDAI KITETSU and Yubishiri (which will return as significant)
They passed Yubishiri and Sandai Kitetsu (confirmed a wano blade) for generations until this guy sold it/ended up GIVING it to Zoro, and then Zoro TESTED the will of the Sword by offering it his arm, and it accepted him.

Ipponmatsu is the final samurai, but not literally, because his descendent who was died a few decades after time lady time traveled ahead of him.

Oda makes sure, FOR NO REASON, that the sword shop that has the wano blade Sandai Kitetsu (we just found its brother in Wano), is 250 years old.
I hate how no one respects Ipponmatsu and the sword shop's lore. It is the biggests sword knowledge drop in the story so far I think, too.
All headcanon but I am hoping it goes somewhat like this and that these connections to the past of the one piece story are in fact legit.

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If I had to rank her outfits the ones the German dress and mobster outfit she had in WCI are both in the Top 5; those outfits alone made Nami raise in the rankings for me.

Thinking on this, did Zoro do the test before or after Ipponmatsu gave him the sword for free?

If he only gave it for free after Zoro offered the sword his arm and it didn't take it, it's strong evidence that he gave that sword to Zoro as though a prophecy would be fulfilled with it. Almost similar perhaps to Shanks giving Luffy the straw hat.

This also means that Otiku may come from around the time that Ipponmatsu's sword shop opened, rather than her beginning her life in the Void Century as has been often speculated.

Now that Moriah has reclaimed TB, and Yubishiri is in New World, do you think Wano smiths could repair it?

Lol

WCI made me realize what I didn't like in post-timeskip Nami design wasn't the long hair but most of her outfit until that arc tbqh

I'm fairly sure Zoro tested the sword, succeeded and said he'd buy it before he was offered the other one

Did he pay for either sword? My memory says no but I could be wrong.

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He was perfectly willing to pay for Kitetsu, but in the end he got both for free.

Nope, didn't stop Nami from extorting him with interest though.

>Oda already confirmed a ship from Wano arrived at East Blue some time ago, carrying someone we all know
>Nami means wave, Hiyori means weather

Her post-TS bikini outfit honestly ended up growing on me a lot over the years to the point where I'm now a pretty big fan of it (probably tied with Usopp as my favorite of the initial post-TS get-ups) but it's nice now that she's been able to wear more than just bikinis. Not that I have a problem with them but variety is always welcome.

Too bad that it was Bellmere who named her Nami

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>If he only gave it for free after Zoro offered the sword his arm and it didn't take it, it's strong evidence that he gave that sword to Zoro as though a prophecy would be fulfilled with it. Almost similar perhaps to Shanks giving Luffy the straw hat.


Straw Hat prophecy is kinda full of it because Nami can literally assfuck that prophecy since she's like Samwise Gamgee in that, technically, she wore the strawhat.

>MAMAMAMAMAMAMAMAMA MAMAMA MAMA

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With that kind of power she could have been born before/during the void century and then jump to 250 years ago to open the shop tho

>technically, she wore the strawhat.
So did Robin

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'std fruit' but it will changed to 'sickness fruit'.

Wow, thanks user; yes I do. I was lacking a mechanism for Yubishiri's return, but I knew it would. Now I understand how it's possible.

Well Robin's an interesting case in that she wore a strawhat on top of her other hat.

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Nami was from the Oykot (reverse Tokyo) Kingdom. Or at least that's where Bellamere found her and Nojiko.

Because of where she found her.

>Run from Wano to Zou
>Jack follows
>Run from Zou to ????
>Jack follows
>Bellemere rescues you.
Replace Jack with whoever or a huge army or both.

Carrotfags seething that they can never compare to this

I noticed some characters were missing so I did an update

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Same, actually. But I started to grow on me when she started to wear something else. Like you said variety is welcome.

...

The Wano plot stuff kicked off 20 years ago when Momonosuke was sent 20 years into the future by his mother, no idea what happened to his new-born sister.

Nami is supposedly 20, but that's only how long it's been since Bell-mere found her and Nojiko in the Oykot Kingdom

Sanji is a lucky guy

If Nami was at least as important like that Samurai was considered to be, then there is no way in hell that they would just let her go to the next island when they didn't let Raizo hide in one of the most secretive hard to find ones in the world. So it's easy to see she left Wano, the country she left to was destroyed to find her, but fate had it that Bellemere was one of the Marines there and she found Nojiko and Nami first.
These dudes are still attempt-killing whole islands to find the samurai, back then it had to be even worse.

Nami had magic abilities almost like she could hear the voice of the sea at the start of the story and Momonosuke is confirmed to have such ability. I remember in an early chapter she appeared to precognition a ship destroying water spout, and she was able to block/deflect the same attack that KOd Zoro on Skypiea.

>luefy
>baroque'swork

Better pic

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One of the main reasons why I like her initial post-TS outfit is the low rider jeans. In pre-TS she mainly just wore skirts so it was nice to see that change later on. not to mention making her ass look better

Naming conventions are the weakest criticism of a translation though; the rest is pretty stellar in the way it conveys the intended meaning of the author. Only recent scan groups have gone to such efforts to make big translation notes to explain stuff, like how if you were actually reading back then you'd know they explained why the names were bad in a translators note and then also fixed them.

>nami
>ass

Nami is my biggest love and this is true. If she had an ass she would be perfect

Z and shiki movies are i think

>I remember in an early chapter she appeared to precognition a ship destroying water spout

I remember thinking it was observation haki when I caught up with the manga in 2011, lol.

Chapter 0 is canon, it was even released alongside a chapter in WSJ.
Neither is, only Chapter 0 is.

Proto Nami would make a funny foil to Zoro.

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>Queen
>Triceratops
>Because has a crown of horns
Remember my words

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Post your favorite OP girl

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>anime

This is interesting, Oda apparently planned for Nami to be a fighter before changing his mind.

Well no shit Toei would try to do something with it but its still not big enough. Its also not canon

From TalkOP:
Queens bounty
1,320,000,000

>Queen's arm
Goda.

did he get this bounty for spreading aids?

You've really got to assume that bounties at this level aren't expected to actually be claimed at any point.

From TalkOP
Cover:Smoker is smoking but it’s put out by the mouse Fire brigade

Luffy kick the scorpion guard and knock him to the ground, saving grandpa Hyo.
A bunch of guards are screaming and yelling for Luffy to be put to death.

Queen bounty: 1.32 billion berries

Raizou comes into the prison to save Luffy, the warden of the prison is a elephant smile headliner.
Last page, Raizou stand in front of one of the cell, the mysterious prisoner stops him and asked if Momonosuke is alright, he’s Kawamatsu

I hope that once King's moment in the story comes they reveal his bounty, and then during Kaidou's fight with Big Mom they reveal both their bounties. That'd be the most kino way of presenting the bounties in the arc.

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Luffy kick the scorpion guard and knock him to the ground, saving grandpa Hyo.
A bunch of guards are screaming and yelling for Luffy to be put to death.

Queen bounty: 1.32 billion berries

Raizou comes into the prison to save Luffy, the warden of the prison is a elephant smile headliner.
Last page, Raizou stand in front of one of the cell, the mysterious prisoner stops him and asked if Momonosuke is alright, he’s Kawamatsu

Chapter 0 is part of Volume 0 and it's only canon for the Strong World movie, as its an advertisement for it.
When you look at the cover page for it, it does not say ONE PIECE in big letters, instead front and center and huge it says:
STRONG WORLD
Because it's an alternative universe and background is provided for that alternate universe in volume 0 (within which chapter 0 is contained).
Almost all tankobans are released along side chapters. The one that 100% confirmed Sabo was dead did too.

Kawamatsu? nice

Fine losers here's her ass straight from the manga

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>Chapter 0 is part of Volume 0
Yeah, and like I said, it was also released in WSJ. It's as canon as every other chapter.
>Almost all tankobans are released along side chapters.
What the fuck are you even trying to say?

This looks really sick and wrong.

Reminder that Nami is a celestial dragon

No, even though the end of chapter 0 really is just a set up for the movie everything before that is canon. The edd war is even mentioned in the vivre cards

anyone has an ass in that position

fat ass are overrated tbqh
wide hips>>>

cute feet

The fact you have to reach this much should tell you something

>selectively choosing what's canon out of Oda's special volumes.
Sorry; but there's also volume 777 and volume 1000 and some others, and all were released alongside chapters like that.
Manga start at chapter 1. If it was a in canon flashback it wouldn't be released "alongside" the real chapter as a promotion for a movie with a cover page that has the same title as the movie. Instead it would be released as the next chapter, since Oda is not restricted from flashing to the past in a current chapter.

He didn't do that though, he made sure chapter 0 was in volume 0 with volume 0's STRONG WORLD cover.

>More Queen cameos

Any word on his devil fruit powers?

best combination: small tits, wide hips, fat ass

Not yet

>Even though I acknowledge the end isn't canon the rest is because I say so.
Not how it works.
>it's confirmed by this other merchandise.

Faggot

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>shadman

>it's Kawamatsu and not some shit like Oden or Vegapunk
Nice.

t. gentleman of very dark complexion

Wasn't reaching at all lol. I posted an anime screencap for the hell of it initially but this bit is the first thing that comes to mind when people say she has no ass and I'm sitting here wondering what they've been reading

Then how come the Oro Jackson has the same design in the manga. Kong also first appeared in Chapter 0 before showing up in the manga

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Don't be retarded. Special volumes aren't canon, since they aren't even manga volumes, they are promotional material for the movies. Chapter 0 isn't a Volume 0 exclusive, it was released in WSJ, and it's even referenced inside the main story. It was fucking released alongside the main chapter since it wasn't a chapter of the main manga, but it's still canon and important enough to get a whole manga chapter instead of random scribbles. It depicts canon moments of the story, with canon characters, drawn by Oda himself.

Oda would be retarded if out of nowhere he stopped the story for an unrelated flashback. And it was included in volume 0 because, like I said, it was connected to Shiki's story and that was in Strong World.

Because it was first drawn in Water 7 and the anime copied its design?

You didnt post an ass. You posted her sitting in a weird position. 99% of the time shes flat and I hate you for making me say this about my babe.

Stop that. Liking big asses should be a white person thing too

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We never saw the Oro Jackson in Water 7. It's first appearance was Chapter 0.

It's look ok to me

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Remind me how Log Pose or navigation works? Doesn't the Log Pose point where to go next? How do you even go back to a previous island that you visited?

>Chapter 0 blah blah
Speedreader just stop. This is literally chapter 0, not VOLUME 0's, cover page.
You don't even know what you are talking about, chapter 0 was part of a double tankoban release, and it's exactly that.
Here is blatant proof and you've already admitted that the parts of chapter 0 you don't like aren't canon (the end), meaning you're extra full of shit.

Chapter 0 is promotional material for Strong World. It is not the only time some promotion has been in the magazine. I am sorry to burst your bubble but it's undeniably true.
Please understand this is "Chapter 0"'s cover, and not any other release. The specific one you claim is canon for the main one piece story even though it VERY CLEARLY IN CAPITAL LETTERS is not.

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Eternal Poses.

patrician

>Not how it works.
Yes it is, the end is the tie in for the movie(as far as we know, unless Oda retcons Shiki's plan), the rest is information that was already know like Shiki being the first person to escape impel down, and how a lot of important people were in Roger's execution
>it's confirmed by this other merchandise.
Oh so now you're going to say the vivre cards are not canon as well?! Is that you level of argument? Also
>there's also volume 777 and volume 1000
Thats a stupid comparassion, those 2 volumes were just concept arts for the characters in those movies, chapter 0 is an actual flashback for events that we know that happened

Oda did put effort into strong world it just wasn't direct required canon for his main story. This means he doesn't have to stay consistent with it, but when he drew the oro jackson, it's obviously what it would look like. Of course you can obtain real value from the tankobans, you just can't use them as canon until the main story is over and we can compare with that.

Dude the cover for the chapter is STRONG WORLD in letters that dwarf everything else, with chapter 0 as a subtitle for it. Indeed, Oda wrote chapter 0, it's just he wrote it for STRONG WORLD and then he wrote his actual canon chapter (697 I believe) after that.
The skip down to "chapter 0" is silly, Norland's flashback didn't need a backadded chapter for example, it just used the continguous numbering because it was part of the canon.

This is a more accurate drawing of her average drawing. Its from the anime but its the same thing in the manga

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>Speedreader just stop.
>goes on to act like I said something else
Nice.
>chapter 0 was part of a double tankoban release
What are you even talking about? It was first released in WSJ alongside chapter 565. It was only published in volume 0 a couple of weeks later. It was even in a databook, are you sure you know what you are saying instead of just spouting bullshit?
>you've already admitted that the parts of chapter 0 you don't like aren't canon
I didn't though, you must be confusing me for another user, or strawmaning hard.
>Chapter 0 is promotional material for Strong World
Indeed.
> It is not the only time some promotion has been in the magazine
It is the only one that's a full chapter that was drawn by Oda. Other promotions are just on the pages dedicated to that. Have you ever even held a WSJ copy?
>Please understand this is "Chapter 0"'s cover, and not any other release
So? A chapter in the main story has had Film Z promotion. Another had Film Gold promotion. Chapter covers mean nothing, it's canon promotion material, so the cover has more of that.

>Kawamatsu
This came across my mind after re reading the arc so far and let out a big sigh when remembering it.

gross

Fuck, you are right. I guess Chapter 691 isn't canon either.

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I mean Oda rarely ever draws her straight-up bending over with her ass right in the forefront which is the type of evidence you seem to want so I'm not sure what to tell you (some animators on the show takes liberties but it's all based on his source material of the characters to begin with).

Also even if you consider her to be flat down there that's a rather rude way to talk about your gf. You should love her, warts and all. This screams insecurity to me.

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From @EtenBoby
Chapter 935:Queen
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Luffy kicked the scorpion guard and knock him to the ground, saving grandpa Hyo.
A bunch of guards are screaming and shouting for Luffy to be put to death.

Queen bounty: 1.32 billion berries

Raizou comes into the prison to save Luffy, the warden of the prison is a elephant smile using headliner.
Last page, Raizou runs past one of the cell, the mysterious prisoner stops him and asked if Momonosuke is alright, he’s Kawamatsu of the Nine Red Scabbards

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The spoilers are already posted

I do but Im not going to dishonest. I genuinely dont think she has a big ass. Its normal. I still love her design and personality

Or Chapter 817. Fuck.

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user I read it when it was released, you aren't teaching me something new. I'm showing you outright that chapter 0 is promotional material for STRONG WORLD and its own story canon, which is in a parallel universe to the main one piece canon.
>it's the only one that's a full chapter by Oda.
WRONG.
Chapter 0's alternate name is "STRONG WORLD."
Episode 0's alternate name is "STRONG WORLD."
Hate to break it to you user.

>nami in the middle of getting fucked in her pic

What argument is being made here? There's extra material inside of one piece chapters constantly, it's not rare.
Are you trying to allege that the strong world move is canon because Oda drew those promotional cover pages?

>I'm showing you outright that chapter 0 is promotional material for STRONG WORLD
Never denied that.
>and its own story canon
Nope, it's the same canon. Why would Oda make an alternate canon and publish it in WSJ, give it out in volume 0, and then add it to a databook?
>WRONG.
What? How is that wrong? What other full chapters has Oda drawn outside the main story?

Are seriously basing your whole argument on the title of the chapter and ignoring the content and how the events in the chapter are mentioned the manga and in the current canonical databooks and, like the other user said, how the first appearance of the Oro jackson happened there as well as the mention of Roger having a ancient weapon?
>Norland's flashback didn't need a backadded chapter
Because it was tied to the skypea arc while Shiki's had no place to he shoved in, so they made pushed as an extra chapter because of the movie

>"Put it in the other hole"

Correction, you're right about the chapter done by Oda part, but you're wrong about the context of the chapter he drew, since it was meant for and named after the coming movie, and promoted in his manga to make more money.

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You literally are arguing that Chapter 0 isn't canon because it says Strong World on the cover and it's made as a promotion for the movie. If that was true, those chapters also have the names of the films on the cover and promote them.

This is how selective blindless looks, everyone.

Low testosterone detected

>Why would Oda make an alternate canon.
He's made all sorts of alternates stuff in his chapters through the years, even if it wasn't as polished as that until he needed to advertise that film. The answer is he got paid extra to do it, and he probably enjoyed it. The canon had to be alternate because he did not want the film itself to be canon.
Many things in chapter 0 will turn out to be true, but it's not a contiguous one piece chapter it's jumped backwards to from 700 to null, and then back again, as a clear intentional separation and interruption in continuity on purpose. If Oda wanted strong world as canon he'd just make that next chapter 596 or 597 or what have you.
He purposely didn't.

The movies real name is "Episode 0" and that's why the promotional chapter is named "Chapter 0," because it's canon for "episode 0."
I hope that this is clear now.

I'm arguing it's not canon because there's non canon material in it as you or whoever else is posting already acknowledged, stating that it's canon "except" where it's not, instead of the obvious answer that it's canon for Episode Zero, in manga drawn form as a gift to Oda's fans, and that's why it's "Chapter 0" describing "Episode 0" instead of chapter 597.

Seems to be a minor chapter that takes place mostly in the prison. Not too much going on here aside from Queen's bounty reveal and Kawamatsu being the prisoner. Last chapter had decent transition. If this is just prison stuff, hopefully there is more meat to this than what this spoiler implies.

>Momo
>Tama
>Kawamatsu
>Denjiro
>Ashura Douji/Shuntenmaru
Which one of them will be Luffy's nakama? Carrotfags are SEETHING.

Chapter 0 is canon. Strong World is not. End of story.

Last chapter was the same the initial spoiler didn't mention the BMP and some other stuff

Is Kyoshiro autistic?

>He's made all sorts of alternates stuff in his chapters through the years,
[citation needed]
> The canon had to be alternate because he did not want the film itself to be canon.
Shiki is literally referred to in the main story as an escapee of Impel Down, 30 chapters before we saw Chapter 0. Why would Oda do an alternate canon for that event and Shiki's story? What does it contradict, when we know everything it shows happened? Do you think Oda will retcon anything in it?
>If Oda wanted strong world as canon he'd just make that next chapter 596 or 597 or what have you.
You aren't Oda, you don't know what "he'd do". It isn't a numbered chapter because it isn't part of the main story, having a chapter that doesn't connect to its surrounding chapters or the arc it's in would be an awful way of storytelling, and there's no reason he'd do that. He released it as Chapter 0 because it's that, a prequel. Are you not familiar with special chapters that are still canon?
>The movies real name is "Episode 0"
That just isn't true, Episode 0 is the anime adaptation of Chapter 0. You clearly have no idea what you are talking about.
You are retarded.

>Chapter 0 which is named after Episode 0 is canon, but Episode 0 is not.
There is non canon material directly published into chapter 0 that's confirmed already, let alone the numerous more that will appear as the story finishes.
Oda named Chapter 0 after Episode 0 because it's tied to it, and not to his main story. Oda has clarified in SBS that tankoban and movie material is not canon, no matter how cool it is, since he's been asked.

>Episode Zero
with "volume 0" and "chapter 0," almost as if they are meant to be tied together, and not to One Piece's current chapter at the time which was 597ish.

There's a chibi strawhat chapter which I vaguely remember where Usopp was labeled "hero" and Luffy wasn't.

One Piece Party? That isn't drawn by Oda.

>"Many things in chapter 0 will turn out to be true, but it's not a contiguous one piece chapter"
>Even though the information in the chapter is canon, the chapter isnt because i said so
I don't even
>there's non canon material in it
YES THERE IS, jesus christ how dense are you? People have been posting all the info that has been confirmed as canon so far and that was in the chapter

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I should find the thread with the archive where I posted this. I know there was at least one dude who pulled the "They look nothing alike"

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Also if I recall correctly it foreshadowed Norland's statue saying "HERO" on it with Usopp claiming to be his descendant.
So really the chibi chapter is more canon-ish than chapter 0, which is only for a parallel universe movie.
It's not canon either though even though it doesn't reference a movie and does actively foreshadow something cool. It's just a fine gift from oda.

Why did you respond to yourself like you were a different person?

He's talking about this omake but zoro and luffy changed to hero too

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Kamazu hasn't been caught, he's on the run after killing somebody

Moveover, pancake.

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That's cool but I'm referring to something more ancient than One Piece party that was published at the end of the chapter, which labeled Usopp as "hero" (and they all had labels too though i can only remember Usopps).
They were MORE Chibi than in that one piece party thing you just showed me, and drawn by Oda.
It wasn't a spinoff and it wasn't published outside the magazine (maybe in volume) as far as I know.

Thanks user, yeah i forgot what their titles said. Wasn't there another page or two?

>Yubishiri (now broken/dissolved by acid
It was a rust devil fruit, you yellow monkey.

even skypeia

Touche.

It's 3 pages mangadex.org/chapter/122145/1

>the rest is pretty stellar in the way it conveys the intended meaning of the author.
I'm pretty sure that crap you posted was translated from Chinese.

Since this isn't ever going to have us agree, what do you think about the story in terms of what happened? Do you think Oda will ever draw that part again and change stuff? Do you think he'll never touch that again? What do we get by it not being canon, since we know the events, like how we see several characters when they were young, and Roger's execution, plus prime Garp and Sengoku and Shiki's escape, were all real canon things. And Oda drew them, the same as he would in an SBS. Are these thing not canon, just because they were made to promote a movie? Do you seriously think Oda will retcon them because of that, even after publishing it in a databook? What's your stance?

Bullshit, Luffy and Zoro don't want to be a heroes. Heroes have to share meat and booze.

But they think heroes are cool and are just roleplaying as them

make her breasts smaller and wow

you jest, but this is literally what's gonna happen

dont say that awh

That's what caused the naming convention errors, yes. Normally NULL was the best of the best, and in fact even in that arc they really still are since
>A man's dream will never die!
Is theirs.

They also standardized the term "nakama," as it was not in use before NULL made that translator note in the same chapter it was introduced.

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nice

Unless it's a omake isn't everything Oda writes canon since its literally his work?

Not literally everything. He sometimes designs stuff for the anime or movies. Z is kind of tricky, since Oda wrote his backstory, but he hasn't been referenced in the story at all despite how big his role would be if he were canon.

CHAPTER FUCKING WHEN?

No, for example he wrote the story for world seeker, but the game isnt canon

I love Nami!

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It's impossible to say but I am confident that as the story of One Piece closes several points from chapter 0 will get contradicted or altered. It's true that there are valuable truths within it, like you said, the Oro Jackson's true appearance was first shown there, but until the story's finished it's bad form to use tankoban as canon since it often gets contradicted completely, and sometimes there's subtle hints in the manga that suggest one thing, but the tankoban outright states another, and then later on, the subtle hints in the manga were true.
It's much more pragmatic to refer to the primary source material in contiguous chapters 1-present, since Oda is bound to that canon. He had to alter some of the history and world lore of chapter 0 because he had to set it up for stuff that never happened in the main canon story.
I don't mean to imply that the tankobans are trash, I mean to imply that even a little thing like three saki cups appearing really did mean that Sabo was alive even though Databook Green which was personally oversaw and checked by Oda said he wasn't.

Z is canon since Oda designed him, his powers and his backstory. What happened in the movie isn't.

Oda posted that Sabo was dead in a databook and then Sabo was alive. Is anything in chapter 0 as significant as the claim that Sabo is dead?

He designed the main bad guy in that hancock special

No he isnt, thats not how it works

A databook wouldn't spoil a main story reveal before it happened retard.

I agree he's a true Oda design and based but he is not a canon character or at least isn't yet.

1-at the time he was dead in the story
2-that was the green databook, not the vivre cards

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Neither would an out of order chapter drawn for a movie with the title of the movie in huge letters as its cover page, and with the chapter being literally named after the movie.

The databook DID claim to spoil that Sabo was dead and it was used as the primary go to argument to shut down anyone who mentioned the three saki cups.

Tankoban will LIE to the reader to force you to be surprised.

Z isn't canon and never will be.

Make you wonder if Oven gives all of his girls melted vaginas.

>tankoban
What do you even mean by this? Are you mistyping Tankoubon? That's just how the first edition of volumes are called in Japanese.

I could understand that position if the story had been contradicted already, but it hasn't. And what about cases where Oda has contradicted himself in the main story, like with Trebol's fruit? Which one is canon? I think a story can have some inconsistencies, but disregarding interesting relevant content written by Oda just because it was for a movie is limiting ourselves of fun discussion.

And Databooks are a different case altogether, since they aren't written by Oda, and listing Sabo as alive would have literally spoiled the future manga.

Just wait until the Rox flashback

it's the same shit dude. They claimed the same stuff about the green databook being canon as is claimed about the vivre cards, it's just different glitter.
You'd have to be stupid to trust these materials when real shit is about to go down, since they clearly intentionally lie and mislead the reader.

Not spoiling isn't the same as stating the opposite as though it's true and a spoiler though, which is what Databook Green did while also claiming to be personally oversaw by oda.

Just ordered these two figures!

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I mean this. Chapter 0 is listed as one, and was considered part of a double tankoban release from the magazine.
It's very clear what it means: NOT CANON.

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>drawn for a movie with the title of the movie in huge letters as its cover page
A databook is side material, and it's just supervised by Oda. Not literally drawn by Oda like it was part of the manga.
>The databook DID claim to spoil that Sabo was dead
It didn't, it showed what was the belief at that time in the story. If they listed that as unknown that'd be the same as revealing he was alive, and people using that as an argument means nothing.
>saki
It's sake, dude.
>Tankoban will LIE to the reader to force you to be surprised.
How does that work with an extra chapter?

The difference is that Oda himself recomended the vivre cards instead of Sueisha

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Then I accept he's canon and existed except his storyline never happened.
I mean technically speaking Sabo was dead

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Sabo WAS dead. That's how he was introduced, Luffy, Ace and everyone thought he was dead. There wasn't supposed to be any doubt. If for some miracle Pedro survived and that's revealed in 1000 chapters, he'd still be listed as dead in a databook that releases now.

Wouldn't mind getting findom by Nami!

And thick squishy thighs

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That says tankoubon, retard. Literally all One Piece volumes are tankoubon, and then they get rereleased as Bunkouban or whatever other editions there are.
>part of a double tankoban release from the magazine.
You are just copying that from the wiki without knowing what it means. It just means that the chapter was released in two different tankoubon instead of the usual one. It's in volume 0 and that databook that featured it.

If you think being in a tankoubon means it's not canon, literally all the manga and all other manga in existence aren't canon to their own series. I don't know what you think that meant.

Based SanRo

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Vivre cards are only supervised by Oda, not literally written by Oda.
He has almost nothing to do with it except to hype it and say that he has stuff to do with it. He's working on his manga that he already breaks from once a month from overwork.
Do you really believed Oda sacrificed a weekly chapter for the vivre card?
Wrong, Databook Green is a One Piece field book.

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What about Patrick Redfield? Isaac? Anyone else on this list onepiece.fandom.com/wiki/Category:Non-Canon_Characters_Designed_by_Oda?

He confirms in your image that it's not him describing those characters, and that he doesn't have time to, so just read those fun field guides made by others if you have no imagination of your own.
You just proved yourself wrong.

I think you misquoted me.

The databook shouldn't even say his name if that's the case, directly stating the opposite of the truth in a field book of "spoilers" no less, to fool the reader, is not a good indicator of reliable source materials.

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that robin outfit is honestly really stupid looking and weirdly out of character. But hey that's most figures for ya.

Talking about thick thighs, I really like what Oda is doing recently

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That would then cause people to realize that they are hiding the truth, since an important character isn't depicted. You have to lie for that sort of reveal to work, otherwise the lack of "confirmation" becomes a confirmation in its own.

>that says tanknoubon
In mine that letter "u" is missing user. It says right in the definition:
>Tankobon
>Independent/standalone book
"is the term for a book that is complete in itself and is not part of a series or corpus."
It's clear, though I understand why you woudn't want me using the old meaning of the world that's listed first in that definition, you have to remember that WSJ is older than you are.

I bet Oda will throw a curveball and it'll be Ants. Maybe even an Ant paramecia. Ants are stronk and get everywhere. Just look at Ant-Man. OP world probably has some bullshit ants too. He rides a tank and ants are some of the few animals who wage wars like we do. Just turning into a half-ant and already being fuckhuge will make beastly.

Lots of important characters were not depicted at that time and Oda clearly wanted readers to be able to figure out that Sabo was alive, since he foreshadowed it on panel. This reality is inconsistent with your claim that he needed to lie to the reader directly in a source material claiming to be oversaw by him and to reveal spoilers.

Nami's outfits in the second half of Post timeskip have been fucking incredible. Oda's outdone himself after the early fumble with the tasteless bikini top and jeans.

The only field guide being relased when he said that was the vivre cards, the green databook came out years before
No dumbo, even though he doesnt write them himself the information is given by him. If they were completely disconnected then he wouldnt recomend them

forgot to mention that ant's also have queens which is where I got the idea.

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Kata doodle

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>the only field guide
He said "feild guides" as in plural, and he didn't say "don't go back." He didn't say "refer to the vivre cards" he said refer to the field guides.

>In mine that letter "u" is missing user
ou is abbreviated ō in the official romanization to make it more like the sound, but in Japanese it's literally the same. By trying to be cheeky, you further prove that you know nothing about this.
>I understand why you woudn't want me using the old meaning of the world
The meaning that's actually used? And the meaning that's used in the shit you copied from the wiki without knowing what that meant?

I am not omniscient user, nor cheeky. At this point your arguments are pedantic instead of substantive.

>Lots of important characters were not depicted at that time
Who that was relevant at the time?

I actually love how stupid her pants look

If you didn't know, just admit it. By trying to save face you further prove that you don't know shit, and I keep at this because you said that it "being from a double tankoban" meant it's not official. That, and you were the one that ignored every other point to focus on that.

what got jimmy rustled up this time?

If you had to violently rape Chopper would you do it to pre or post timeskip Chopper?

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>"Smoker, I'm trying to track down the Strawhats but I'm dummy thicc and the clap of my ass cheeks keeps alerting the crew."

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I mean the Sabo reveal was pretty obvious. The three saki cups and Dragon finding an injured person right at the end of the flashback.

The databooks obviously foreshadowing Sabo losing his memories and sense of self, so he did 'die'

What are you even talking about at this point? You need to address these points because they are my central argument:

1. The "field guides" are not canon, Oda did not even write a lot of the stuff in them and actually states aloud that he does not have time to, but if you can't imagine for yourself, you can have his production team do it for you.
2. The field guides have historically lied to the reader, and therefore can lie to the reader again, making them unreliable as a source of canon until they can be checked against the story in full.
3. Oda doesn't write them.
4. Oda oversaw databook green just as much as any other field guide, and all the field guides are the same level of "canon," in that they are not, though it will turn out that many of the things they claim are true.

I wish so much Kamazo will look badass like his wanted poster

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robin is so cute

Do you really think the secret Ivankov holds over Crocodile is that Crocodile used to be a girl?

You say this in hindsight, but I'm still angry at having to argue against Databook Green when I saw the three saki cups, and constantly being shut down by the masses of anons here, all the way until it was literally revealed he was alive in Dressrosa.

Which one, user?

1-the vivre card databook consists of various booster packs, not one single databook
2-never over analyse translations
>He didn't say "refer to the vivre cards" he said refer to the field guides.
He probably didnt predict people stretching his statement to databooks that came out several years ago, just for the sake of canonical arguments

>The "field guides" are not canon, Oda did not even write a lot of the stuff in them and actually states aloud that he does not have time to, but if you can't imagine for yourself, you can have his production team do it for you.
How does that matter when we know Oda wrote and drew Chapter 0?
>The field guides have historically lied to the reader, and therefore can lie to the reader again, making them unreliable as a source of canon until they can be checked against the story in full.
It's different when it comes from Oda. Do you trust SBSs?

I think you are confusing this with a different argument, bud.

>buying toys after the age of 9

I personally don't think so. Crocodile could careless about gender.

Is this the same retard posting all of this? Or did one mistake make the other anons repeat it?

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I love them :)

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Vivre Card Visual Dictionary is a databook, retard.

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Oda wrote Episode 0 too though, so unless you're claiming that's canon to the main story when it's explicitly a standalone story, along with the standalone manga chapter Oda ALSO made for it, I don't get what you can even claim.

If Episode 0 is not canon then neither is Chapter 0 which is named after it and describes it and veers from the canon world and is out of order with the actual story's chapters.

Oda WROTE Strong World, but it's still not canon, and neither is chapter 0 which he also wrote specifically for Strong World, and which he titled literally "STRONG WORLD" on the cover of the chapter.

Now you'll move goalposts because you didn't know that Oda wrote the movie too, and so your acting like writing the chapter by itself makes it canon to the One Piece canon, instead of the Strong World canon, is VERY ignorant.

how embarrassing

>still arguing
Detailed spoilers fucking when?

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Yes. Poire

So is databook green. I've been categorizing them together this whole time as a crux of my argument.
These are what Oda means when he says "field guide." Please take now how Vivre Card is the newest one.
onepiece.fandom.com/wiki/One_Piece_Databooks

I'll list them here too:
One Piece Red: Grand Characters
One Piece Blue: Grand Data File
One Piece Yellow: Grand Elements
One Piece Green: Secret Places
One Piece Deep Blue: Characters World
Vivre Card: One Piece Visual Dictionary

When Oda says "field guides" he means these.

>Oda wrote Episode 0 too though
Episode 0 is a direct adaptation of Chapter 0, with some extra anime content. The extra content isn't canon, just how anime filler isn't either.

>If Episode 0 is not canon then neither is Chapter 0 which is named after it
That's the same as saying chapters 691 and 817 aren't canon because of their covers. The reasoning behind the chapter doesn't mean it's not canon, that's a lie you've delluded yourself into thinking.
>is out of order with the actual story's chapters.
How does that matter? There's several other manga that do this with flashbacks or prologues.
>Oda WROTE Strong World
He didn't though. He only wrote chapter 0 and designed the characters. The movie was written by someone in Toei.
>Now you'll move goalposts because you didn't know that Oda wrote the movie too
If you really want to go there, you'll have to bring a source. But in any case, this has always been about chapter 0. I'm not saying everything written by Oda is canon, otherwise Z, Tesoro, Bullet, Redfield, Byrndy, etc would also be canon, which isn't the case. Chapter 0 is a special thing.
>our acting like writing the chapter by itself makes it canon to the One Piece canon
It's not just writing it. It's publishing it in WSJ, and labeling it with a sensible number instead of something retarded, and it ACTUALLY being connected to the main story fom Shiki being confirmed canon.
>VERY ignorant.
How ironic after the "tankoban" shit you pulled.

So with queen being 1.32 billion the billion club is currently:

zehaha 2.247
luffy 1.5
queen 1.32
mochijobber 1.057
jack 1.0

dishonorable mention
smoothie the door stumbler 932

will king fall between luffy and queen? i'd imagine oda would have revealed it when he dabbed on the mama charter if he was higher than luffy's

Dude it's not "some" extra content, and the 'extra content' is also in chapter 0. Oda wrote both and they are canon for Strong World. But not One Piece chapter 1-933 or whatever.

>spelling a word correctly is more important than a substantial and justified argument.
Maybe so in this world.
You were arguing that chapter 0 was canon because Oda wrote it, I pointed out that Episode zero is also written by Oda.
Anime episodes and the other movies are not, and yet strong world is still its own independent story separate from the main one piece. I can prove this with panels from chapter 0 and stills from episode 0.

>it's not "some" extra content
Episode 0 literally shows parts of the climax of SW. Why do you keep claiming shit that's not true and easily checkable?
>and the 'extra content' is also in chapter 0
Except it's not.
>Oda wrote both and they are canon for Strong World.
Yeah, because the entire canon is also canon to SW, that's how canon works, it seeps into the non-canon stuff, but not the other way around.

It's retarded to publish chapter 696 and then chapter 0 though, what's not retarded is 697.

When did Katakuri job?

Episode Zero is Strong World's real movie name you based retard.
Oda wrote the whole movie.

>You were arguing that chapter 0 was canon because Oda wrote it
And several other reasons I posted right there.
> I pointed out that Episode zero is also written by Oda.
I don't think you even know what Episode 0 is at this point.
>yet strong world is still its own independent story separate from the main one piece
No disagreement there.

I think King's bounty will be 1.33b. Similar to how Sanji and Zoro's are 330m/320m since they both bicker with each other. Oda likes having fun with the bounties too. Like how Kata's has the "57" vause of Luffy's connection with the number 56. Symbolizing how Katakuri was like Luffy but better.

Imagine the smell

Imagine having silky smooth anal sex with Galette without even needing lube

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Wrong on both statements. Episode 0 is a special OVA adapting chapter 0 with some extra scenes from the movie. Yet again claiming bullshit. Why are you posting several times instead of doing one big reply?
Those numbers are completly off. Anyways, it's happened in other series and it's nothing new. You wouldn't force a side story into the main numbering for no reason, Chapter 0 is canon but it isn't part of the main story. Is that really too hard to comprehend?

*because

I'm a little tired but I'll clarify:
Oda wrote chapter 0 about Strong World.
He wrote episode 0 about Strong world
(episode 0: Strong World!)
AND he wrote STRONG WORLD the full movie.
As he did so, he worried about the movie. Simultaneously, he drew chapter 596 for his actual magnum opus.

>it's happened in other series
Which ones and does that make it intelligent? When we learn the void century will we go to chapter -1?

NO!

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Threadly reminder I have achieved enlightenment by figuring out the exact history of the void century and the meaning of One Piece which allowed me to unlock every mystery in One Piece. The details are so fleshed out to me that I can even see how Oda will tell that story.

AMA

Just kidding, I won't fuckin tell you shit

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Zehahahaha! Sengoku! I am the closest to the One Piece!

>He wrote episode 0 about Strong world
That's just an adaptation, retard. He didn't "write it", he did chapter 0 which was later adapted.
>AND he wrote STRONG WORLD the full movie.
Without a source that means nothing. Just because you put it in all caps that doesn't make it more true.

The Ohara flashback would be far better justified as a chapter 0 than the prelude to Strong World.

i'd hate to see oda recycle a gag but it's possible they are close to each other given how they were introduced.

Please don't call me a retard when you are stating falsities.
Oda wrote the full movie of Strong World.
He wrote the promotional anime episode for it named Episode 0.
And he wrote the promotional manga chapter for it, Chapter 0.

If you didn't know that he wrote all three, perhaps that is why you are confused and think they are canon for the main story of One Piece even though they are clearly separated from it as an alternative but similar verse.

beautiful pair! sanro is sure to happen!
in fact i may mold my desires after sanro and chase women who exlusively remind me of robin thanks internet and thanks cartoons

If it's a flashback presented in the main story, we won't. Othewise, maybe.

Bleach had a full volume of chapters in the -100s. Trigun had a chapter 0 prequel. That's the two off the top of my head that came after the manga had started, but it's common when it's released before.
Have you even read Chapter 0? It's much more than just a prelude to SW, and it shows a lot of what was happening at the time of Rogers' execution.

>spoonfeed me
Why don't you just look up who wrote the movie user.
Eichiro Oda

>Oda wrote the full movie of Strong World.
Repeating it over and over isn't a source.
>He wrote the promotional anime episode for it named Episode 0.
The fact that you repeats this makes me question if you've watched it. It's literally a Chapter 0 adaptation.
>even though they are clearly separated from it as an alternative but similar verse.
Even in your deluded world that's a lie. How is it in an alternative "verse" if it contradicts nothing and shows us details about several shit we know happened?

I wonder if this same idiot claiming Chapter 0 isn't canon was the same guy claiming Momousagi and Chaton weren't canon either

this was so fucking freaky to see happen when the chapter came out

Burden of proof isn't on me. I'm not wasting time on proving someone else's bullshit.

I mean, those are different things. Oda had said that Chaton and Momousagi were scrapped ideas, there was nothing to show they were canon, unlike Chapter 0.

duck penis?

The Roger Pirates, the only people who found One Piece, are more significant to the story than the Oharans.

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Trigun's High Noon at July is NOT included in its official chapter count, though I do like that chapter and that story, so you did trigger me.
Jump refuses to list Bleach chapters in the negatives, and instead just orders them positively starting from 1 until the end.

DELETE

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Your point? Are you saying they aren't canon?

I'm not going to put more effort into showing you than this:
onepiece.fandom.com/wiki/One_Piece_Film:_Strong_World
because I'm aware you will continually move goalposts no matter what.

my semen loads after upping my daily zinc regiment

Hard to say, Shonen Jump doesn't include it as such. I would say that it's non contradictory to the canon as far as I can tell, and I can say that because Trigun is a completed work.
The fact remains chapter 0 is not an official chapter listed and that Bleach does not list down into sudden out of nowhere negative chapters in official media.
Chapter 0s are always promotional unless the manga actually starts there, you can't fake starting your manga after you already did user.

Hirohiko Uesaka is the one that wrote the screenplay, like it says right there. Oda only wrote the concept for the film, like Toriyama does nowadays.

You need to learn what moving goalposts means, retard. I've never argued that SW was canon, and as I've been saying from the beginning, it being a manga chapter is the biggest thing that makes it canon. You are the one putting words in my mouth and twisting my argument towards the film, and even at that you are wrong.

onepiece.fandom.com/wiki/One_Piece_Film_Strong_World:_Episode_0
Nigger

It's cute how you think you got a grip on One Piece story without figuring out what even One Piece means. Cute but how unenlightened...


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You're into some kinky stuff, Katakuri!

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Spoilers are out:

>and that Bleach does not list down into sudden out of nowhere negative chapters in official media.
It does though. Right in volume 36.
>Hard to say, Shonen Jump doesn't include it as such.
Trigun isn't Shounen Jump, retard. And Chapter 0 IS included in volume 1, so not sure what you are getting at here.

Showing up in the SBS made them canon.

We know that. They were posted about 3 times here but people would rather argue instead

Their appearance is literally like that of the Shichibukai joke guy. It's easy to tell in hindsight, but this never seemed like a confirmation to me.

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SBS > databook
Never was in that argument.
It's hasty to assume that tree on Ohara is low value lore, or the books thrown into the lake, speedreader.

>It's hasty to assume that tree on Ohara is low value lore
That user didn't say that, speedreader.

Oda already showed us stuff like that and he didn't go backwards to chapter 0 to do it though.
I forgot what chapter we see roger wear the strawhat but it wasn't an early one, it was Saboady and it was numbered appropriately.

He claimed that the Roger pirates are more significant than the Oharans. I'm saying that's hasty and listing some reasons why.
Ohara had a stellarium, the Tree of Knowledge, the lore dropped into the lake.
Roger is unlikely to be higher value than the special world trees, in my opinion (it is just that though). Roger was a placeholder not a world changer, though he did provide inspiration, he didn't even attempt to help Skypiea for example. Basically said thanks for the lore have fun with your 400 year war I'm dippin out.

>numbered appropriately
Do you really not understand the concept of side chapters? Do you not understand the idea of having part of the story outside the main storyline? Because that's severely autistic.

How do you feel about Ace and Law's novels?

>When Oda says "field guides" he means these.
No he isnt, thats your guess. When he made that comment there was only the Vivre cards being relased, it makes no sense to assume that ue was also talking about databooks that came out years, some even decades, ago and were never as relevant as the vivre cards

Ohara is more important then Roger Pirates.
Roger Pirates are more important then Ohara

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One Piece is more important to the story than the world's lore. Roger is the key to that, and the era of pirates, literally what the story revolves around. Chapter 0 being about him makes a lot more sense than it being about a significant tree which won't become relevant for thousands of chapters if ever. Besides that was Robin's backstory, not a separate side story.

>If I took the time to explain each and every one the story wouldn't be able to move forward
Oda, all it takes is an intro box and devil fruit name in it. That takes up a fraction of a single panel to do.

>side chapters.
I understand the concept, but I also understand that it's not what Oda was doing with strong world. Each supplement was for the film and it paid off in dividends. He already has a famous method for making "side chapters."

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>Each supplement was for the film
Did you actually read Chapter 0, or are you just sperging out? There's tons of stuff outside the Shiki/Roger story there.

He literally calls her the vice admiral who was an admiral candidate, exactly as she is in the manga, not "scrapped idea".

You have yet to prove that Roger never had to go to Ohara.
Olivia Robin was only trying to fulfill the will of her murdered husband, who was trying to find the poneglyph lore. Robin probably has no memory of her real dad, the mystery poneglyph hunter who inspired her mom and her mom's team.
The best scenes we ever got with Roger were when he was executed, when he's talking to Whitebeard and then WB answer about Blackbeard is off paneled, and when it was revealed Roger wore the strawhat. None of these reverted backwards in chapter count and it would have been retarded if they did.

It makes sense for "chapter 0" to be in the same canon as "episode 0" for the movie "Strong World" which they both describe, and which oda also wrote.

I had actually mixed her up with Chaton who Oda says he found in his sketches, but that's clearly a design Oda did on the spot to answer the question. Sure, it doesn't make her not canon, but at the time it was dubious at best.

That's because it's an alternate universe and Oda was establishing that it's very similar to his main story's world, but changed to account for a different storyline that didn't occur in the main story.

Robin's dad tried to do what Roger did before Roger did.

Ok now it official, you're retarded

the early chapters of one piece already introduced roger though, but Ohara was a complete unknown. Are you really going to claim that chapter 0 does better with Roger than Loguetown, or that Loguetown was the wrong place to introduce him?

>You have yet to prove that Roger never had to go to Ohara.
What? When did I even claim that, holy shit, slow down a bit.
>None of these reverted backwards in chapter count and it would have been retarded if they did.
Are you REALLY this dumb? Do you really not realize why Chapter 0 went back and those didn't? Chapter 0 came out to market the movie, it wasn't shoehorned into the main manga because that wasn't the point. All that shit you listed was directly addressed and referenced in the manga, so it was in the main story. That's how a story works.

But Chapter 0 was made as a separate thing. It's not part of the main story, and didn't fit at any specific part of it. That's why it doesn't have a specific numbering, and that happens all the time, stop being retarded. Do you do this on purpose?

>It makes sense for "chapter 0" to be in the same canon as "episode 0"
Holy fucking shit, why do you keep repeating that inane bullshit? Episode 0 is literally an adaptation of Chapter 0, why do you count it as something separate? It's like you didn't evn watch it and just read a wiki or something, holy fuck that makes you look stupid. I'm out, this is the last (You) you are getting, I've been wasting my time here.

So the strong world film is not an alternate universe to the main story of one piece even though it's similar, and episode zero and chapter zero from volume zero that was released for it are unrelated to it?
I'd say you're retarded and obstinate.

And that doesn't matter at all. Roger is more important to the story.
I have no idea what you are trying to make me claim.

>That's because it's an alternate universe and Oda was establishing that it's very similar to his main story's world

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>I'd say you're retarded and obstinate.
That's very ironic. Fuck you with a cactus and die, worthless sack of shit.

Feels so good to have the key to everything anons. Can't wait for when anons start connecting the dots. Think hard and you might reach enlightenment like me, before it's revealed.

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Ancient zoan giant prehistoric sloth (I forget it's official name)

>Chapter 0's purpose was to advertise a movie.
>that's why it's not contiguously numbered in proper chronological order of its release.
That's what I'm saying, it's added canon to the Strong World Film lore, rather than added canon to the chapter 1-935 manga. Strong world and chapter 0 and such ARE very similar to the main story of one piece, since they are all written by Oda, but intentionally not as canon and intentionally separated in that way with a cover page that announces STRONG WORLD instead of normal; which were all initially only intended to be released with the debut of the film Strong World, but people liked them so much they published more after.

for some reason I think it's an homage to the band, not ants, time will tell

chad blackbeard with his 2 billion bounty god damn

>Roger is more important to the story.
How so? He did inspire the pirate age, but he's not critical beyond that, and his appearance in chapter zero was mostly redundant, since he'd already been adequately introduced for what he is to the story.

>giant prehistoric sloth
Megatherium

>How so?
Nearly all of the major lore and plot points of One Piece are directly related to him.

Roger is less relevant to the active story once its started than Zeff, Mihawk, or Shanks. Robin is more important than Roger, and those are her parents.

The movie is not the same as the chapter you moron, the movie takes place somewhere before the time skip, completely deviating from the real story, wich is why its not canon and its own story. Chapter 0 however is a flashback of events that took place way before the current time line so it doesnt deviates from anything, quite the opposite rly since the events in that special chapter were confirmed to be real in the regular chapters

>katakuri is a jobber but jack isn't

GORP

Well if he's still alive you're right, he gains a lot of importance, but he'd already done everything he needed to do before chapter 0 was a thing, and Oda waited until Saboady to drop the strawhat on Roger's head.
If he's dead it's really obvious why he's not important enough to warrant jumping backwards to 0 in the chapter list and publishing; but promotion for a high revenue film is.
nearly all major lore and plot points of One Piece are related to Robin. A D. + an admiral saved her life early on.

after zou no one in their right mind had any expectations for jack

Volume 0:
Episode 0:
Chapter 0:
So you want me to believe they are all promotions for the film but unrelated? All three are written by Oda so I dont understand how you are claiming just the chapter is canon, but not the other two.

I'm feeling lonely in my enlightenment. Figure it out already ffs.

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lol jobbed to pre-enies lobby luffy

He would have defeated Lucci in seconds though.

They're just doing ninjutsu. It's not like haki or Devil Fruits were ever the only thing to exist.

that's luffys job

>jobbed
I hate how this word doesn't mean anything anymore.

The other two are just collections of sketches and behind the scenes info for the movies.

Chapter 0 is a full length and fully drawn chapter.

The true redpill on "jobbing" is that at it's current use the entire One Piece world is made to job to Luffy as it's story purpose is for it to be conquered by him.

In my opinion it's the opposite.
Oda is the first mangaka to find a way to make his protagonist job to the antagonist, but still win convincingly.
By all rights everyone thought, "wow, Luffy's lucky as fuck!" when he was fighting Enel, since being rubber saved his ass.
Waipa was shown as Luffy's equivalent in combat on purpose, and then KOd by Enel in two hits, to illustrate this point further.

In no way did Luffy vs Enel make me think of Luffy as super strong, or Enel as weak.

kinda hard to beat a guy who 100% counters your devil fruit
also if he got a nice time skip powerboost he'd be powerful as fuck considering he's an electricity logia

But Luffy jobbed to Higuma.

Mushi Mushi no Mi, Model: Queen Bee

Strong World is a full length and fully made movie, written and oversaw by Oda himself.
You really can't grasp how a prolific manga writer like him might want to include a manga chapter for the one and only movie he worked on? Neither are canon except standalone for themselves, as related stuff for Strong World movie.

Shinobu uses a df power for hers seemingly. We don't know how Raizo does his yet, or the other ninjas. Kanjuro and Kinemon are both df users. Not even sure Wano residents know what df's are, they just know that they have unique abilities.

In the end everything will job to Luffy

>But *Shanks jobbed to Higuma.
FTFY
His body was never shown and he could swim.

I hate faggots like you, can't see a fight past the punches. Stop reading One Piece

> I dont understand how you are claiming just the chapter is canon
I'll try for the last time
>Volume 0
Just a bunch of concept arts just like the other special volumes
>episode 0
Just a adpation of the chapter 0
>Chapter 0
An actual manga chapter telling a story wich most events were already confirmed to have happened like Shiki existing, being able to fly and escaping from impel down(confirmed by Sengoku) a bunch of important characters watching Roger's execution(confirmed by Rayleigh) and the edd war(confirmed by the vivre cards)

Is Gin the only character in all of One Piece that never jobbed?

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>all these (You)s from bait
2ez

He jobbed to poison

I love how active Wano seems to be even outside of the main arc. I'm sure it will all tie in, but it's really a country full of adventure.

I already understood these concepts they are just irrelevant.
You conveniently avoid discussing about how chapter 0 is canon and promotion for strong world, but that everything else isn't. Strong World movie itself is written by Eichiro Oda.
>an actual manga chapter.
Yeah, a standalone one intended originally only to be published for the initial attendants of the Strong World Film, as a really cool and supplemental as a prize for being first to watch it.
It was only decided later on that they would re publish Volume 0, when they realized how well liked it was.
You will claim that it was "released in a chapter in the Shonen Jump Magazine," which is true.
NEARLY A YEAR after it debuted and the first viewer only elite pamphlettes were handed out, which merchandise deparment LATER decided to publish in the magazine.
Oda wrote it originally as PURELY a supplement for his film, which you read just before the film aired.
Later on his advertising team decided to put it in the magazine. For a long time strong world was claimed as canon too, though now it's reduced to chapter 0, and that also is still wrong because it's not.
This is factual and not just to annoy you. I'm hoping you can overcome the confirmation bias and see that it's not meant as canon for the main story.

All three of them would be helplessly weak.

It's actually some sort of liquid candy rather than water, courtesy of Perospero.

Maybe but Oven would still be a hothead.

Being enlightened is actually pretty shit if I got noone to talk to :

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There is no enlightenment if you desire to speak with others.

Chopper foreshadows that Blackbeard will target him for his fruit. It's not explained why in the panels, but in SBS Oda says that if a human eats chopper's model then he obtains "enlightenment."
Since devil fruits are partially about imagination, I'd think that for Blackbeard this would mean incredible magic powers instead of entering a zen-like state.

Didn’t he carry Krieg off screen despite it?

I don't hate Vivi or Vivifags; I just hate the ones that start shit with Carrotfags.

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