What is your unironic opinion of their works?

I love princess mononoke and spirited away, don't really care about the rest

Mimi wo sumaseba, Omoide poroporo and Umi ga kikoeru are better

Visual quality above anything.

Boring and mindless

Pretty but every movie has the same characters and most have the same plot

omoide marnie is their best, and im glad they ended it there

You lost me at Umi ga Kikoeru

That's because you're only watching Miyazaki's films. Isao were far better and different from each other.

It's good though.

Takahata is the best creator in anime history. Miyazaki is also very good

The Wind Rises hit me pretty fucking hard and is probably one of my favorite movies. Most of their other shit is boring though.

Their old stuff is very good looking, but otherwise very dull and shallow. The only exception is Spirited Away, which is one of the best movies of all time.

Haven't seen anything post Howls Moving Castle.

Anime for people who hate anime

They're beautiful, if a bit simple.

What's your favorite anime?

Howl has a great soundtrack (and the second best ending song of all Ghibli films) but is mediocre in all other aspects. Probably the worst movie Miyazaki was involved in.

I fucking can't believe I've never seen this logo in Japanese before and I've thought since I started watching anime that it's pronounced 'gibbly'. What the fuck man.

>most have the same plot
Please give examples of Ghibli movies having ”the same plot”.

they're pretty good

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probably the best pleb filter we have available, if an anime fan is unwilling to admit Ghibli make the highest quality films in the medium they are ironic weeb trash and can be safely disregarded

I think a few anime films are better than any Ghibli, but generally speaking I agree.

They're movies have very good visuals, animation and direction, and the subjects are usually made to be appealing to the wide audience, that is not a defect itself but I personally prefer the more mature approach of Oshii and Production I.G.

most Ghibli films have adult themes under the surface

your name was pretty good and so was spirited away but I haven't seen any of their other movies.

Takahata was a living god.

Hating on them is hating good animation. Not sure why youre on Yea Forums if you dont like quality animation from nipland.

Most of their works don't quite connect with me. They are fine, but they don't make me feel anything.

My favourite is Whisper of the Heart, and I also liked From Up on Poppy Hill.
The Wind Rises probably requires another rewatch, because it may potentailly be my favourtite by Miyazaki. But well, most of the most popular ones may be interesting, but I simply don't connect with them very strongly.

Rough list:

>good
From Up on Poppy Hill
Whisper of the heart
Kaguya-hime
Tonari no Yamada-kun
Yadosagashi
Wind Rises (possibly)

>okay
Mononoke
Chihiro
Kiki
Howl's moving castle (possibly lower)

>Uninteresting
Ponyo
Arietty
The Cat returns

Haven't seen the rest. And some of the okay ones may be more memorable than some of the good ones.

Try actually watching all their films and not just the three dubbed Miyazaki films you watched as a retarded child.

Horrible shit taste. Every tier is wrong.

you're probably dead inside if Ghibli films make you feel nothing

>whisper of the heart not in elder god tier
>spirited away not in god tier
>mononoke hime not in mid tier
>ocean waves and grave of the fireflies that low
>only yesterday in anything else than god tier at the very least
retarded

If you genuinely think Kiki and Poppy Hill are better than all of Takahata's films you're a fucking idiot.

>I have different tastes so you're retarded

>not in elder god or god
I'm not saying either of the first two are bad, I just didn't enjoy them as much as what I've rated higher, should be obvious enough

>ocean waves and grave of the fireflies that low
the former was just some really boring high school melodrama, the latter was a tear bait drama and things would've turned out alright if seita wasn't such a retard, barefoot gen is a much better movie in that regard in my opinion

>only yesterday in anything else than god tier at the very least
I didn't enjoy the movie, I thought it was an exhausting 2 hours, I can see why some people may have enjoyed it and find it comfy, nostalgic or whatever but I personally don't care about a character reminiscing about her 10 year old self every 5 minutes, I know that's sorta the point but I don't find it interesting at all, the one praise I can give it is the dialogue sounds pretty natural at least

read the above, plus what else is there yamada kun and kaguya hime? they're different in style I guess but they didn't really appeal to me, there's also nausicaa but that's in great tier so I dunno why you'd be mad on that one

Not bad for a studio led by a pedo

>what else is there yamada kun and kaguya hime
You don't even know who directed the films you're ranking you fucking idiot. Your taste is obviously too shit and uninformed to be making any charts.

>the latter was a tear bait drama
Good to know you didn't understand the point of the film.
>I didn't enjoy the movie
Very objective rating system you got there. Go back to MAL.

>what else is there yamada kun and kaguya hime
that I haven't talked about you fucking retard, do you have any reading comprehension? I was justifying my ranks that were "too low" according to some people

>Good to know you didn't understand the point of the film
oh please enlighten me then o wise one

>Very objective rating system you got there. Go back to MAL
good to know you stopped reading 5 words in, also >muh objectivity, it's my taste you sperg, I can like or dislike whatever I want

First off, he also directed Pom Poko, secondly Nausicaa is a Miyazaki film. Try educating yourself before you make some retarded infographic. Have you even seen the films on that list? Anyone with a decent IQ could tell which are Miyazaki and Takahata without being told.

I agree. Takahata is the greatest
The worst taste I've ever seen

boring desu. princess mononoke is the only one i don't dislike

okay... are you really gonna tell me Pom Poko is better than Kiki and Poppy Hill with a straight face though?

Here, I fixed your shitty chart.

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Their non fantasy films suck.
For anime in modern settings I think Satoshi did a far better job.

Pretty good taste overall.

Tokyo Godfathers is a flick, so what Millennium Actress and Perfect Blue? Those films are tense dramas, not even close to what Ghibli makes, so the comparison is pointless. Is that the only other anime director you know?

Actually Ghibli is better at non fantasy in my opinion. Laputa for example is an inferior Nadia, Howl is nothing to write home about, Kiki is fun and beautiful but hardly a masterpiece, Nausicaa is very good but the manga is better, etc. The only exception is Spirited Away which might be overrated by normalfags but is still an amazing film.
Ghibli movies that are more grounded in reality like Whisper of the Heart or even Porco Rosso usually hit me much harder, there's a very moving sense of nostalgia and simplicity to them.

Some of them are nice for kids.

Made it look nicer.

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Peak anime, fuck you.

RECOMMEND ME SOME GOOD MOVIES
but none of that popular shit everyone knows about and watched, I want some real hidden gems

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All of it looks great. Some of it is very enjoyable, some of it is very boring.

Whisper of the Heart and the Cat Returns in particular I think are garbage.

Threads like these are proof that Yea Forums's taste and knowledge of their own hobby is absolute bottom of the barrel. I've seen better opinions on fucking MAL. You retards are almost as bad as Yea Forums and Yea Forums.

good up to early 2000s, but drop significantly in quality after with Kaguya being the only exception

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I think he's talking about the similarities between Nausicaa and Princess Mononoke

It's good you pleb.

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Miyazaki is a true auteur, one of the few in anime.

decent but I'm glad they died out so we can have the seinen dominated industry we are in today

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Is redline a hidden gem?

I just love the way Ghibli depicts the nineties. Fuck the 80s nostalgia, I want to go back to the '91-'93 period where it seemed like everything was possible and bleak pessimism hadn't yet infiltrated every facet of society

Complete subjective and absolute love for some of their works
The rest good i guess

>I want to go back to the '91-'93 period where it seemed like everything was possible and bleak pessimism hadn't yet infiltrated every facet of society
user, that's when everything came tumbling down in Japan. The 90s weren't called the "lost decade" for nothing. In 1991 the Japanese asset price bubble collapse collapsed and that event basically ruined the country for many years. It is an event that makes the financial crisis of 2008 look like a fucking joke.

much better, but I don't care much for Fireflies and poppy hill is easily the worst ghibli movie I finished watching(I could never sit through all of earthsea)

90s America was pretty cool though.

>this is bad!
>this is good!
>basically "no U!" tiers of argument
truly the highest IQ board for the most sophisticated discussion about this hobby

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not an argument, please stop posting

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>thread subject is about opinions
>"wow why are you posting opinions"
Truly a high IQ post

A whole lot of the scenes feel like they are just there to show off some animation technique. At least in those I remember, Mononoke, Kaguya, laputa.

Care to explain?

I don't like Fireflies that much. The film is frustrating as hell (the brother basically allowed his sister to die by refusing to go back to the aunt) and it's often way too sappy.
I get that "don't let your pride overtake you" is one of the film's themes, but it goes too far into the realm of implausibility.

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I understand why Fireflies is a divisive film, but if nothing else it's a master class in audio direction and characterization through realistic movement.
>goes too far into the realm of implausibility
It's based on an autobiography of the older brother. It actually happened.

I just don't feel like there's much to take away from it. It at least was about the fire bombings instead of the nukes though. Bare foot gen was better maybe because of that since the nukes make a more interesting narrative without much effort

at least we can all agree that earthsea was fucking shit
>oh yeah I killed my father by the way, he was a good guy and I don't really know why I did it lmao

Remember when Shinkai tried to do a Ghibli ripoff?
It was an alright movie, but how come it didn't even come close to replicating the same feeling?

Same reason Hosoda and Yonebayashi's ripoff films aren't any good, they lack the intellectual gravitas and nuanced understanding of film crafting Takahata and Miyazaki had.

Mononoke is probably his worst work. I don't know why it's so many peoples favorite. Comparatively it doesn't hold up against something like Spirited Away, Totoro, or even Moving Castle.

I thought Mononoke was better than Howl, it had more intensity. Those two are definitely mediocre though.

It's definitely the most complete statement of his ideas about our relationship with nature in film. I think the setting is well-developed and the narrative has a great sense of scale to it, like you're watching something important and consequential happen.

Not sure what you mean by intensity but visually moving castle has a lot more going for it.

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As the other user said, it gives off an impression of importance, which is reinforced by the tense OST. Also, Eboshi was a good antagonist in my opinion, while Howl doesn't even really have an antagonist, just the abstract idea of warfare.
As for the visuals, it's true that Howl overall is superior, but some scenes in Mononoke (like pretty much every time the forest gods appeared) are great.

They're great but why does every single one of them have to shove some tree huger message down your throat?

They peaked with Porco Rosso and Kiki

Because Miyazaki is right about everything.

They lived through their natural environment being drastically changed by war, urban sprawl and industrialization, so it is an important message to them.

>while Howl doesn't even really have an antagonist, just the abstract idea of warfare.
That doesn't take away from it though. Howl is first and foremost a love story so it makes sense that there would be no villain in a traditional sense.

I liked Porco Rosso and the Wind rises. But i'm and aviation nut who loves the golden age of aviation and i'm also an axis powers sympathizer, so i'm definitely biased.

Swap Totoro with Kiki and we're golden.

Everything up to the mid 2000s is worth watching at least once. Certainly everything after 2010 can be skipped.

>but visually moving castle has a lot more going for it.

And in terms of plot a lot less.

pretentious

>Mononoke is probably his worst work
That's easily Howl or Ponyo.

Serious question though what comes from not buying into the three hugger message? For years I told myself I'd probably be fine living out my life without seeing any major environmental fallout but now I'm not so sure. If stuff doesn't change the world is going to go to shit, why is the suggestion to be wary of that in media such a bad thing to you?

Miyazaki and Takahata are probably the two best directors the industry has ever seen, and everything they've directed is excellent, without exception. I'm less interested in the other Ghibli movies, except for Whisper of the Heart (which is good, rip Kondo) and Ocean Waves.

Normie shit for hipster parents.

>Miyazaki and Takahata are probably the two best directors the industry has ever seen
Takahata, yes. Miyazaki is not among the elite, though. He is possibly the greatest animator of the 20th century though, ranking with giants like Tex Avery and Yuri Norstein.

>Eboshi
>antagonist
You have to see with eyes unclouded by hate.

Antagonist doesn't mean "evil person".
No named character in that movie was truly evil, except perhaps that old monk/spy and he was more of a pragmatist than an actual piece of shit.

You don't recognize what I am saying.
Eboshi is not the antagonist. She does not fill narrative position to oppose the protagonist.

You're free to believe in your religion, but you can't expect everyone else to enjoy the constant preaching.

How so? By the second half of the movie, Ashitaka was essentially fighting against Eboshi and the Emperor.

Nah I'd still put him up there.

Of varying quality but mostly good, it's easy to overlook Miyazaki himself because let's be honest most artists are kind of assholes.
>my parents never taught me to not shit where i set up camp

Am I a pleb if Castle in the Sky has been one of my favourite movies since I was a kid. But only the original Disney dub.

Unironically deserves their reputation.

What's wrong with the Japanese?

No, it's a great movie. Watch Nadia and Future Boy Conan if you haven't already.

There is something that feels so standard about Mononoke. I believe that Miyazaki didn't push the ideas of the film as far as he could have. Or at least have a stronger portrayal. The ending is also very hokey.

Some of their movies seem samey, with the granny character and floating castles and shit.

That's just Miyazaki. Quit conflating Miyazaki with all Ghibli films.

I said some of their movies.

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over-rated but still quality animation but sometimes with weak story telling
ambient shots don't count

It's just Miyazaki, satan.

You totally missed the central idea of the film. To "see with eyes unclouded".
Mononokehime is explicitly not about Man vs the Evironment. Or Man vs Gods. It is about the way your preconceptions affect your judgment.

I don't even get why everyone conflates Miyazaki with environmentalism, only one film really deals with it and in it his environmentalism is overshadowed by his views on WMDs.

Dragon Quest equivalent for anime

I never said anything about what I thought the idea was.

Beloved internationally by casuals and diehard fans alike?

Fucking shivers

Nausicaa's intro is better

Breathtaking.

Too much use of forced animation. Makes it very soulless.

Captures the essence of life and has great observation of people. Very feel good movies/adventure.

Out of the epics, everything is great but Howl's Moving Castle... is just.... I can't fucking stand it

I want to watch a Ghibli movie this evening, I've seen everything except Totoro, Only Yesterday, Ocean Waves, Pom Poko, the Yamadas, Earthsea, and everything post-2010 except the Wind Rises.
What should I watch?

>rerecorded US dub soundtrack
Ew.

See:

I like The Cat Returns and Spirited Away, but most of their films are mediocre at best.

>I like The Cat Returns and Spirited Away, but most of their films are mediocre at best.
Ironic.

Not him but Spirited Away is far from mediocre. Just because it's the most popular doesn't mean it's not great.

good shit

Honestly I just kinda like the banter in the dub. I’m sure it’s just cause of nostalgia but I just think it’s got a solid caste and it’s done well.
And the blu ray rerelease edited out a lot of the side banter to be closer to the original which kinda sucks for me

God, no. Don't even say that. That's like saying Dragon Quest is the equivalent of Lord of the Rings. You just don't do it.

>tfw I'm always unable to rate the Ghibli films objectively because of the childhood factor
I wish I could see with eyes unclouded by nostalgia.

Lucky me for having godlike taste as a kid