So let me get this straight: not only shamans were shown to be far more powerful than humans...

So let me get this straight: not only shamans were shown to be far more powerful than humans, and not an sidelined community like in the beginning, but important historical figures like fucking jesus christ were implied to be shamans, and humans that are not manta are assholes, all of them. And after all the horrible things Hao did to countless people that had nothing to do with his problems he gets VERY EASILY forgiven after a 5 minute dr. Phil talk, essentially proving him right in thinking all humans are worthless. What was the moral of the story again? How did this manga derail so badly?

A FUCKING HELICOPTER.

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Imagine being this full of shit

Like every pedophile, Takei hates humanity and he can't hide his ugly side to the world so his mangas devolve into child porn (see Ultimo)

I will get flamed for saying this but the anime had a better ending than the manga.

For whatever reason, the author decided to justify Hao's nonsense and the manga's story suffered because of this.

I mean I'm not entirely against the idea of Hao being forgiven. It's Hao being forgiven (despite being unrepentant of all the shit he did) while humanity gets branded as a collective bunch of assholes that shamans just choose to tolerate that pisses me off. It's grossly biased towards Hao. I get what they were trying to do but the execution was poorly done.

>Generic shonen end
>Good guy kill bad guy with friendship power
>Better
I bet you love fairy tail.

Originality =/= good

Yeah instead we get Hao Wins:The Manga

Despite the ending I'd still like to see it readapted. Too bad that won't happen until Takei dies or even later.

That's not what he said, faggot
What is bad about this?

LOOK AROUND YOU LOOK BEYOND

YOU COULD MAKE AN UNBREAKABLE BOND

the whole finale was weak for me. just all the characters going one at a time doing some nonsense attacks that don't affect anything. feels like after he went to a different magazine he just rushed everything i dunno

>What is bad about this?
Everything if you aren't a Hao fanboy

Why did they even bother to do shit after Hao got the great spirit anyways? Everything after that feels like a waste of time

>Why did they even bother to do shit after Hao got the great spirit anyways?
Because they prefer living so they tried convincing Hao not to kill everyone for good?

Life and death are meaningless by end of manga anyways. people are constantly brought back from the dead, Hao himself has been killed multiple times(which is why he's so powerful in the first place) and there is a big emphasis put on the fact that souls are just endlessly recycled.


"oh no, Hao murdered people!" is a pointless sentiment in a world were death is simply just another piece of the cycle of existence. Again, Hao himself has been killed multiple times, so of course he's not gonna see dying or killing as a big deal, as he knows better than anyone that it's just another step in the usual system.

No I mean about the attacks and stuff. Trying to overpower him after he got the great spirit was dumb

They were just making time so they can convince him, what do you expected? Sit down and talk to him calmy while he destroys them?

Good. I like it the most when antagonist actually wins.

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To be fair, it works in almost every other shounen.

Uh. Yeah no that's kind of wrong. Hao was cheating death, not being involved in a cycle. And it was more the fact that Hao was kind of a scumbag with a chip on his shoulder. The manga really was poorly executed. And it ended on a rather down note.

THE WORLD AROUND YOU IS NOT WHAT IT SEEMS

>he's still mad the superior chad won at the end

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He only cheated it via retaining his memories and abilities upon reincarnation.

All souls are reincarnated, they just are usually wiped clean first.

Oh man one of my first mangas. I think I finished the anime but never the manga tho. Really liked the op

Didn't Flowers changing Hao winning to "Hao won, but he can't do shit because the old Shaman Kings hate him"?

He can still do shit, but he'll get kicked out if his team doesn't win.

Based.

I don’t see how this is any better. He’s cheating the system for his own benefit and fucking literally everyone else over, even the people who dedicated their lives to him. I feel not empathy or sympathy for him.

Hao is literally an incel. And a suspected furry.

Hao sama please fuck my wife

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Flowers was awful but I liked how Hao reached the top and realized that he couldn't do as he wished.
Takei wanted to make it seem like humanity was evil and responsible for everything wrong in the world, but Hao wound up being even more of a monster than the humanity he despised.

People still suffer because of death, and it clearly has an effect on them. Also, the whole thing about characters dying and being revived per plot convenience only applies to main cast. Everyone who wasn't relevant stayed dead.

Sorry, Anna is smart enough to dodge that bullet.

> hao
> Chad
> buttfucked by a monk

If any of this was true then Hao could easily have found his mother's soul since the beginning and have no reason to murder people. It obviously works if the plot demands it.