What if One Piece had thrilling, deep story arcs?
What if Dragonball had mind boggling, strategic combat?
What if JoJo somehow put all the violence and Stand abilities in context?
The answer to all of these questions and more is Yoshihiro Togashi's Hunter x Hunter.
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Based Huunterchad
>What if One Piece had thrilling, deep story arcs?
Alabasta, Skypiea, CP9, Marineford, Zou, Big Mom, Wano
>What if JoJo somehow put all the violence and Stand abilities in context?
SBR, Jojolion
I hate how easily this rustles my jimmies.
Hxh has none of those things.
Based hunterchad.
Grateful dead fight alone had more feeling and weight behind it than any fight in HxH or any of the other shit mentioned in OPs post.
>What if JoJo somehow put all the violence and Stand abilities in context?
>Says the HxH fag
Hilarious.
shitty shounen reboot of a flawed 90s show what a joy
Homo's adventure is repetitive trash, though. HxH is superior by fucking miles.
>What if JoJo somehow put all the violence and Stand abilities in context?
You mean the manga that actually showed the secondary civilian effect because it's incredibly self aware of how dangerous being a stand user is and how it's visually incomprehensible?
When does HxH do this? It doesn't come up just once in JoJo but multiple times, hell it's even a key visual effect in one of the most iconic final fights of a JoJo part.
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At least none of Jojos characters are beloved gay pedophiles.
>Repetitive
>Every part is different and concludes differently
Why do HxH whisperers have such weak bait? I love arguing and getting baited but this shit is especially weak.
>JoJo
For the crazy abilities, fun dialogues and more light-hearted approach.
>HxH
Everything else, from worldbuilding and storytelling to actual character development
HxH is every bit as nonsensical as JoJo but without the style to make it charming.
>but without the style to make it charming
Yeah, because HxH makes actually sense opposed to the narrative mess that is JoJo.
Jojo is one of the most influential manga series ever created and vastly overshadows hxh. Not does any of its 8 self contained parts have weightier stories with far deeper and more interesting characters but all of the power systems presented are generally more flexible and interesting than nen this being backed up by any myriad of tense and puzzle like fights you can find across the series. To top it all off Araki is one of the only manga artists to have his work featured in the louvre which shows just how much he has been able to progress over the 30 years of consistent output of jojo he has committed to. Jojo is on an everlasting climax and only gets better with each passing year, hxh in most cases isn't even able to have its progressed year to year reviewed as it doesn't even put anything out.
Sorry hunterfriend but maybe sticking to bullying OPfags, blackcloverites or BnHBabies would be more your speed.
Sorry Togashi but your manga isn't ever going to be in the louve and Jojo fans are going to flash their fresh ass gucci in your face while Araki becomes a multi-millionaire and you rot under your own self imposed heaps of filth, laziness, and garbage.
First of all, let me say that both are great battle manga that stand above anything else. But Hunter X Hunter is better by far. JoJo's strong points are having good variety in character abilities and the fights are smart, but it recycles the same formula too much. Introduce a new stand user, the protagonists fight and defeat the stand user, rinse and repeat. The actual story isn't very deep.
Also, JJBA monster/villain of the week formula just doesn't age well and so many of the fights can be considered filler. With that said Part 8 is trying to fix that (where almost every fight/encounter has something to contribute to the story), but HxH just outshines JJBA when it comes to story and character.
JoJo has decent fights but HxH shits over most of Jojo in terms of character investment and plot except for Part 7, where it seems that the fights are a consequence of the story rather than the other way around.
Overall HxH is the better manga. Can you prove me wrong?
>worldbuilding and storytelling to actual character development
>There's an entire part that's entirely focusing about the story of a cripple re-learning how to walk and grow as a person
>It's historically accurate to the 1800s aside from the abilities/character gimmicks and radically different than any other typical cowboy-like setting.
Can your bait be any weaker?
>implying Togashi would've ever wanted that
Kek. Togashi's standard is way higher He would never sell himself out to such a gay fashion collection, that looks ugly af.
It's historically accurate that gyro makes japanese puns?
I mean SBR is the best part but it's still baby tier compared to Chimera Ant.
>HxH
>Overspeaks and fans think that's good visual storytelling
>JoJo
>Explains things intuitively while capitalizing on confusion
If you don't understand King Crimson in 2019 you're just stupid at this point.
You're coping. The most narratively complex part of JoJo (SBR) had like, 5 relevant factions and not much grey morality. HxH is at the moment at least one hundred times as thick with plot and intrigue as JoJo was at its height. To give you a tangible example of this, currently in Hunter x Hunter we have a small conflict about the succession struggle of a single kingdom that is being represented by THIS graph. This is the level of storytelling that Hunter x Hunter is operating on. Do try to keep up with the nuance JoJofriend.
Looks like you can't read.
Typical hunterfag.
Ah yes, high standards, I'd say the manga is equally as high standard as Togashi's own living style.
Are JoJofags really this delusional? HxH is better than JoJo in most ways. The characters have actual depth beyond just "hurr me quirky, me asspull new stands to beat my opponent" and it has deep and meaningful things to say of the themes the series covers, unlike JoJo which is is known for its lackluster storytelling.
Moreover unlike JoJo , HxH is able to seamlessly weave in and out of genres, going from martial arts tournaments to mob wars to MMORPGs to the epic rise and fall of an entire civilization to politics and a new era of exploration and colonialism. Anyone who is a fan of manga owes it to themselves to read this masterpiece. 100 years from now JoJo will be just another obscure shonenfest like MHA or One Piece which are generic battle shonen at their core, while HxH will still be discusses in universities as one of the most ambitious undertakings in human storytelling.
This speaks to how dense Togashi's writing is with ideas, and HxH is at the moment at least three times as thick with plot and intrigue as Berserk was at its height. To give you a tangible example of this, currently in Hunter x Hunter we have a small conflict about the succession struggle of a single kingdom that is being represented by THIS graph . This is the level of storytelling that Hunter x Hunter is operating on. JoJo wouldn't look out of place in any shounen magazine serializing at the moment, while the absolutely ingenious narrative of HxH keeps reaching further heights in thrill and storytelling.
Based
Cringe.
>Fractions indicate the quality of a part
LOL
>not much grey morality
DID YOU MISS THE ENTIRE POINT OF TRUE MAN'S WORLD?
THE MAIN CHARACTER IS WILLING TO KILL TO REGAIN THE USE OF HIS LEGS BECAUSE HE'S THAT MORALLY "GRAY"
WHICH ALSO DOESN'T INDICATE THE QUALITY OF A STORY BY THE WAY.
IMAGINE SPEEDREADING THIS HARD HOLY SHIT
So good.
ITT: Hunterchads schooling JoJofags
>Shitposting on Yea Forums
Typical HxHfag can't handle discourse, eh?
Stop fighting! HxH and JoJo are both great and you only lose to the shonenbabies if you start dickmeasuring.
high IQ post
low IQ post
I agree. Hunterchad friends, jojobros. This is silly, both this series stand like monoliths over Jump. Lets cease this dickmeasuring and go beat some shonenbaby seals over the head.
BASED AND NENPILLED
Cringe and standpilled
The worldbuilding in HxH is nonsensical tho
I love the series, but come on
Typical HxHfags getting outclassed and resorting to low effort shitposting.
If JoJofriends get out of line they get BTFO just like everyone else as you saw in this thread. It's that simple. Hunterchads flex like real chads, no one on Yea Forums is our equal.
Based
Nah, you're probably a bitter MHAfag trying standard divide and conquer techniques.
/thread
>Zou, Big Mom, Wano
You had me until here.
False flagging shonenbaby like the OP of this thread trying to hit weak points on a raid boss in hopes it can do anything to weaken it. Pay no mind Jojofriends.
BASED CHAD MENTALITY. NO MERCY.
Go back dilating, JoJotrannies.
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Togashi's HxH
>creates an intellectual board game
>writes down the effects of 40 spell cards and implement them in a storyline
>writes morally ambiguous MC's who won't hesitate to kill innocents to achieve their goals
>writing the most complex succession battle ever known to mankind in a single floor inside a ship
>most complex power system in manga
Araki's JoJo
>introduces thousand characters only to write them off for plot convenience's sake or if their abilites are too overpowered
>pretty much non-existent worldbuilding
>the story has no real structure and feels almost episodic, meaning the pay off will always suck
>sameface syndrome for most characters
>many dropped plot points and things that Araki forgets to adress while the story is progressing
JoJo is good but you can't really say that it's better than HxH, sorry JoJobros.
>Jojo
>Made on the go.
>Araki pulls a random science book and writes whole fights around it.
>Extremely formulatic fights, rarerly a villain gets equal treatament.
>Lack of consequence.
>Protagonists have minimal flaws, always 10/10s with high iq and moralfags.
>Capitalist,hedonistic and fujobait.
>Hunter x Hunter
>Years of thought just a for a single chapter.
>In fights Togashi delves deeps in the human psyche, fights can go from victories,pyrrhic victories,loss on both sides,draws and can lead to dire consequence, uses the Nen System to it's full degree, no asspulls.
>Characters always weighting the consquences of their actions in their in mind.
>Characters never expect anything good always dealing with situations with rationality instead of muh resolve or some other lawful goody two shoes speech.
>Protagonists with realistic flaws instead of generic anime tropes like "i don't have girlfriend or friends".
>Protagonists with questionable morality and inconsistent philosophy in face of reality.
>Socialist,Based and Chadpilled.
>What if One Piece had thrilling, deep story arcs?
when did hxh ever have this exactly at least any better than a one piece arc?
>no asspulls.
Based and merciless.
>morally ambiguous
>kills innocents to achieve their goals
There isn't anything ambiguous about that.
Only Killua having wishes for free (as of now) is an asspull, the other ones aren't.
HxHfags show literally zero mercy even if it's against JoJofags, this is brutal.
Rubber Nen is more bullshit than any JoJo stand or devil fruit power.
JoJofags will have to concede after this
>devil fruit power.
Hi falseflagger-chan.
What if Hunter x Hunter could show instead of tell?
Greed Island was Hunters peak, and that was really good. The stakes have always been low though, like when Kite dies, we learn that Togashi introduced him literally only to generate that drama, and it's cheaply done. We have no emotional bond to kite other than Gon does, and he's cool because he was Gon's dad's protege.
It's been so long i'm not even sure if that's his name though.
Anyway op, Hunter has a lesser story than One Piece and Shaman King and its same author's predecessor manga Yu Yu Hakashu, but I'm glad you're enjoying it, it is rather decent in its starting story even though it jumps the shark after greed island.
OBSESSED.
Nen after death was established since Yorknew. Hisoka died of suffocation. The properties of his Nen allowed him to perform CPR.
More like it was established early that Togashi dick sucks Hisoka nonstop.
subhuman brainlet
That pic is quite dishonest. Hunterchads are better than this.
Anyway Araki has the better explanation, Togashi's graphs look more complicated than it has to be. "It just works" mainly comes from the old shitty translations of part 5.
This is a really strong illustration of the high school pseudo intellectual appeal that Togashi relies on to sell his work to a massive group of people.
Your image shows a list of required reading books in middle and high school, in the US reading curriculum. You post this as some sort of indicator of high literacy. Togashi has to namedrop these books in his manga itself because he knows his readers are too stupid to draw the connections anyway.
>Hunter x Hunter recommended reading list: Your high school curriculum.
This is your championing argument? Hunter's weakness is that it does not show, it tells, and it namedrops western authors but writes as at much lower reading level than they did.
Explain why King Crimson not making any sense has been a meme for years then
If that was true he would have had him beat Chrollo
the huntard fanbase is literally Yea Forums-tier
He did. Part 5 was relegated to having terrible translations for a huge amount of time compared to the other parts.
Nobody reads those books in high school. The fuck are you talking about?
>the hunterchad fanbase is literally chad-tier on Yea Forums
ftfy
I took you seriously until One Piece, then I knew you either are too weak minded or uneducated to even catch the reference, metaphor, allegory, metaphysical philosophy, and advanced mechanics presented in the One Piece world, or a troll.
One Piece has a deeper lore and more advanced writing technique behind its creation than Hunter x Hunter does. Merely quoting Hagel, or having a character namedrop five philosophers to another character, while criticizing others for being dumb, doesn't actually SHOW us that character is smart.
It shows us that Togashi wants us to see that character as smart, but can't write him as intelligent.
Oda doesn't have this weakness at all.
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So these are the famed Hunterchads? A bunch of manchildren mumbling quitely into their mics so they don't wake their parents?
Compare that to the power and dignity of the JoJo fans.
Yikes!
Look at all these huntertards seething because their precious manga is pseudo intellectual pretentious shit
Both cringe desu senpai. The thing here is though, departure was sung by falseflaggers.
I was required to read most of them, maybe public education has gotten even worse, to where now having read this is considered some badge of honor.
Really sad and really telling of the hunter fanbase.
Namedropping books doesnt make a character smart or well written, Togashi's problem is usually that's the only way he's able to include them. One Piece is full of metaphor at all times, and people often connect the dots and then ask Oda, and he is impressed with their ability to read his story. Togashi doesn't have that element of charm to his story at all because it's more basic. He thinks that namedropping an author makes you intelligent whereas Oda illustrates the concepts and ideas in others literary works, since he actually is.
Togashi doesn't care about his manga and he makes his money off teenagers who are invested in "appearing smart," same as the rick and morty crowd.
OP is literally for children. There is a raindeer, a skeleton, a robot and a talking boat ad MC lmao
>When you have to sing quietly so your family doesn't hear you.
Kek, literally first comment from 2 years ago.
>ifunny
Cringe OPtard falseflagger
Nice.
Off yourself BNHA falseflagger.
Those books arent read in private high schools either. Those are PhD level readings. You havent read even one of them, I bet.
Togashi stated his purpose for drawing and writing Hunter was to teach children how to react in incredibly bad situations.
He publishes in the same magazine as Oda. The most advanced literature appeals to all ages, it is a sign of writing skill, not a lack of it.
One Piece is endearing for people of all reading levels, it has something to offer for everyone, from a five year old, to a 50 year old professor emeritus, or to a schoolteacher. Everyone enjoys it smart and dumb. Dumb people can only see the dumb part of it though, they are unable to comprehend the more advanced elements of style and writing within One Piece. Is that you?
I can take you through step by step and teach you so let me know.
Not really. This way Hisoka can be an unstoppable badass for another 200 chapters and win this time.
>the absolute state of OP copers
>PHD level readings
Half of those are required readings in first year philosophy courses. Straight up entry tier.
I'd bet you were in reading assistance; the mere fact that you believe books aren't read which aren't required says it all.
>Plato the republic isn't read in school
>aristotle ethics
>cockroach kafka
>the prince machiavelli
>you don't read this in high school.
HOLY FUCK if that's true they are really trying to make you kids retarded. These were STANDARD when I went to school. Plato was 9th grade english. 10 grade elective philosophy was hegel and rousseau and kant.
Like 90% of these books I read in high school because I was either required to, or had to choose from a list that had all these books on it to do a book report for my AP teacher or what have you.
You were either short bus or your school was shit.
Only demented people read Wan Piss. Its simple trash for subhumans that dont want to think while reading a comic
>Made on the go
and still going strong, 30 years on with incredibly memorable characters, fights and settings.
>Araki pulls a random science book and writes whole fights about it
I fail to see an issue as long as the fight in question in interesting and enjoyable (pretty much all jojo fights are.)
>Extremely formulatic fights, rarerly a villain gets equal treatament.
There are plenty of instances of villians either winning, getting away and developing further or joining the cast. Ontop of this there are even instances of members of the cast refusing to go any further instead of submitting to the same friendship trumps all bullshit that plagues other battle manga and actually lending credence to the gravity of the situation the main cast may have found themselves in.
>Protagonists have minimal flaws, always 10/10s with high iq and moralfags.
See part 5 onwards
I like hunterfriends, but this was fairly weak. I'd be tempted to say this was a false flagging shonenbaby and given the state of this thread with the wan piss fags everywhere i'll go with that.
Wan Pissu has the most metaphor, allegory, symbolism, play on words, and showing art of any of the shonen manga though. It allows you to read it without thinking, but it's much more enjoyable if you do.
It's above your level if you can't recognize something so basic.
Dude, nobody will ever take Wan Piss seriously. Its a brainlet manga
Rubber nen isn't even more bullshit than hamon
black clover is better written then hunterxhunter
Wan Piss is a glorified 13 year old's dream of escapism, fucking royal sluts, and punching the bad guy really hard.
All the scum is seeping into this thread, i'm beginning to think this was there plan all along.
What if every other shonen had to try and copy Marineford?
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Oh wait they do.
I'm not saying its good, just thats its better written
One Piece has more unique attractive female faces than [your favorite manga] and the standing challenge has been up for over a year.
It also has more unique facial expressions.
Stay blasted.
BNHA is honestly 100 times more engaging than Hiatus x Hiatus.
What if Black Clover had shitty art and wasn't as good?
They all look like Nami
Impel Down is the only arc comparable to something Togashi would make. Maybe Alabasta
That's just it, they don't and it's provable and One Piece has more unique attractive female faces than [your favorite manga] and it's provable with a count.
Togashi can get BC axed with one phone call
Except Hamon stopped being a thing decades ago, Araki's writing is excellent right now.
Whereas O my rubber nen happened just a few years ago.
Early JoJo's is definitely not as good as HxH, but the thing is that Araki keeps learning and improving himself and each successive part is far better than the last, whereas Togashi is inconsistent as all hell.
>Togashi has more celebrity status than this other better writer.
ok?
Even Fairy Tail has better girls, Pissfag
Just 1 phone call and Tabata's "great writing" is thrown in the trash. Remember that.
Proof this entire thread was a set up by shonenbabies to divide and conquer hxh and jojo friends.
>even Fairy Tail
>even
The only reason Yea Forums read Fairy Tail was for the tail so that's not an insult that you have to refer to it to beat it, based retard.
One Piece has more unique faces, and less duplicated faces, than Fairy Tail though, even though Fairy Tail has better looking girls.
This image is the perfect embodiment of everything wrong with post-ts OP. Oda is forced to milk the shit out of his series and you will keep buying into his shit. Can you imagine that the series almost hit the 1000 chapter mark and yet, not a single major plot point is solved? Fuck off with that garbage series. OP should be banned from discussing on Yea Forums just like Nardo was at one point.
I don't read it so it doesn't bother me much. King David killed Uriah because he was jealous.
Reminder that a one One Piece arc is already better than a whole hxh story
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New arc looks better too
Oda is ending the story with high speed; as a long-time reader it's hard to accept the end of the story is in sight.
Chopper's appearance isn't important to me because I'm not new to the story and already love him anyway.
So you concede that FT has better girls than OP? Good boy.
>Those are PhD level readings
The absolute state of Hunterkeks
It's easy to understand at first, the ability is simply that he can see the future briefly with Epitaph and skip forward in time TO CONFUSE opponents.
The confusion arises from the interesting scenarios where it's used, such as when Narancia is killed after/in KC's time erase. This makes it seem like KC interacted with Narancia in the time erase which isn't supposed to be possible, but really Diavolo saw Narancia's death and used it as an opportunity to jump forward.
Also when we read it, it was horribly translated in broken English.
My argument was never who had the best girls, I'm not a blind fan of any mangaka. My argument was the One Piece has THE MOST unique attractive female faces in its story compared to all the other shonens.
Fairy Tail's story was just an excuse to draw boobs and ass and stomach.
Ok conspiracy user, whatever lets you sleep at night.
OP has been banned from discussion in the long past, years before Naruto started to get such a treatment, but I doubt it will be again except as a april fool's joke.
It seriously impresses me how far ahead Araki was of even modern mangakas twenty fucking years ago, he has some issues with plot and power consistency but makes them up BY FAR with the interesting scenarios he shows (and not just fights).
newfag
I'd rather read Phantom Blood than the Chimera Ant arc. That's the worst thing I have ever read.
old good beep boop new bad
>Zou, Big Mom, Wano
> thrilling, deep story arcs
The absolute state of onepiss fags
based One Piece chad
Jojofriends and Hunterbros don't fight, why fall for such shit shonenbaby bait?
We are supped to be the 3 intellectual fanbases here, the holy trinity.
MHA has more unique female designs than Wan Piss
A fucking robot powered by coca cola hahahahaha
based FKMTbro
One Piece is still good, r-right guys?
I haven't read all the manga but what I did read just felt like the most random weird bullshit ever.
We're bros as long as Jojofags understand that HxH is better. Otherwise they will get manhandled like its happening in this thread
Actual HxHbabies ITT
FKMT is far better than all of those
>all that same face
Bruh look at dis dood
Anyone who made it past the 1st chapter of Black Cover is a certified < 80 IQ abomination. You should not be allowed to live among normal human beings
Imagine if Togashi could draw?
Togashi is riding on the legendary success of Yu Yu Hakashu. He can never surpass it or even approach it again in any way as a writer or an artist. He's long done.
Hunter is half-assed because he knows it, it's throwing crumbs to pidgeons and being falsely worshipped by them, and appeals to kids who want to appear smart based on the titles of the stories they read.
I don't care about philosophy or any of the junk chads post about. I just really like HxH. I particularly like Meruem's arc. Is that bad?
If you do that for [your favorite manga] it will show less diversity than that image does. Actually I can differentiate every one of those faces even without a chin, ears, hair, cheek bones, etc, to go off of.
A psychiatrist would place you high on the autism spectrum if you unironically told him those faces looked the same to you.
This really shows how well Oda is at drawing different female faces, that's 28 distinct faces even without the heads being shown right there.
None of these faces look at all alike.
Really good example of how much variety there is in Oda's attractive female faces, that's 28 of different ones right there.
It still entertains me yeah.
What I don't get is why HxH threads are always about how it is the best thing ever. They are never just about a manga they like, but about how it's so much better than everything else.
NEW GAME CHALLENGE
Can anyone put up two numbers from that chart, and make a convincing case that they have the same face?
I was going to say 11 and 12, but once I looked for more than a second I realized they are too distinct from each other.
Theres gotta be at least ONE sameface on this chart right?
shit translations
Joke's on you OP cause I'm a Narutard
Imagine if no hiatus and hxh would've had 2 decades of episodes...instead we get one piece.
>needing a massive chart and a sizable amount of text to make a point
based and togashipilled
The Rick and Morty of Shonen.
If you wanna see HxHfags true colors just make a 1999 vs 2011 thread.
This. Oda differentiates characters while maintaining a unique and appealing artstyle. Whereas hxh is a mashup of different styles and still manages to feel generic.
Yu Yu Hakusho is one hundred times better than HxH. prove me wrong
I'm not sure why Araki is hated, yeah. I never finished Jojo and only read the beginning of it, but at the time I was reading too many other manga. I will probably try and read it now.
Yeah it was only banned for a week or two before moot came and made a personal statement about how it wouldn't be banned, you're right. Newfag.
>One hundred times better than absolute shit.
That's an insult to Yu Yu Hakusho.
Reminder that Togashi considers fans like you, who won't allow him to do what the guy does in the middle of your image, as a cancer.
In his recent interview he says that fans like you make his job more difficult than it needs to be.
source:
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He DISLIKES you for shitting on series like Naruto for not going as hardcore as him on his ability setups, and considers that he did so as a curse probably.
"yyh is better" is one of the weirdest things to say. i can understand saying that OP is better than HxH because at least OP has an edge over HxH in one respect: worldbuilding. and maybe you could argue that some of its arcs are more exciting albeit OP bores me too tears.
OP is still plainly inferior to HxH for reasons OP mentioned, but what advantages does yyh have? yusuke? OK, HxH has meruem, hisoka, the royal guard, and killua. yyh is overall better than other shounen like OP in my opinion but because it excels in nothing it has no edge over HxH.
What if HxH had more than 2 decent arcs?
O MY RUBBER NEN
>Complicated = good
Spoken like a true edgy 14 year old
Imagine being stuck in the same arc for over 7 years
Narrative complexity is not a virtue unless it's unavoidable and even then it's a hurdle that must be overcome rather than a boon or a high honor. In the case of a masterpiece there must be a truly simple story with a very advanced and developed understory it envelops.
One Piece does this better than any other manga. One Piece is a magic eye poster that becomes something more if you stare at it longer. Hunter cannot compare in this way. It's more like an instruction manual with elements of fiction and fantasy added.
It always cracks me up to see official art of Gon with that fishing pole that he only ever used in the first chapter as a weapon against a fish.
That's because it's just a flag to say "this is Goku" and then after that it had served its purpose.
Gon will go supersaiyan again, because otherwise he never had that potential in the first place and he would have died in the chimera arc.
I am impressed with Togashi's recent humility in expressing how the Yea Forums hunterchad beloved whale arc is directly inspired by the Goda.
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I never understood why the ‘hunterchads’ latched on to HunterxHunter of all series. If you wanna shitpost then go ahead, but why pick a show that’s so average. If you want to argue about your intellectual superiority, then wouldn’t it do you better to pick a Manga that actually makes you think?
Because, in all honesty, HxH is just another Shounen filled with the same arcs and tropes as all the others with the only difference being the wait between chapters is much longer
How long untill the "IT'S A INTELLGIENT DECONSTRUCTION OF SHOUNEN" fags come
>Post-ts is garbage.
Agreed. But it's still better than hxh, which has been garbage since it began.
You've been stuck in the same shit story for 20 years, OPtard
I don’t watch Shounen.
Enjoy your hiatus
Name one anime or manga thats more intelligent than HxH
Sailor moon
Unironically Space Dandy
Saike >>>>>>> hxh
Sounds like someone doesn’t read anything that isn’t Shounen
Can we just send HxH to /trash/ already? This is getting ridiculous.
People who reply unironically to hunterchad shitposting is a sad reminder of how this board is filled to the brim with Yea Forumsedditors and discord weebs.
>most recent interview with Kishimoto
Togashi: In the arc right now, I'am adding a ridiculous amount of character while also stressing out about it...
Togashi: There are a lot of artist who have done it in the past...
Togashi: ...Oda-sensei, for example.
>Oda-sensei, for example.
>Oda-sensei, for example.
>Oda-sensei, for example.
>Oda
>Sensei
Pic related; anyone claiming to love hunter but hate OP, which inspires it, is a false flagger.
Screenshot this post.
I had a good time discussing the op, perhaps you are angry for a different reason than the one you claim, such as being blown out?
Let's be honest, the most rabid parts of the fanbase exists because it billed itself as a battle shonen
If it billed itself as a seinen from the start then the autists that are here for ebin fights wouldn't be here
I'll grant that it may be possible. I'm doubtful that MHA has had enough time to really catch up, though it is character heavy like OP, and it the mangaka is good at drawing unique faces like Oda is. Perhaps this skill is important for success.
Hunterchads are a Spook.
And in it the character writing, art, and direction is all terrible. Kingdom Hearts also has a massive scale but that is still garbage. To say SBR doesn't have much grey morality is perhaps the dumbest statement in this thread
>What if all three looked like it were drawn by an 8 year old, and were constantly on hiatus?
ftfy
HxH should delete Chimera Ants seriously what the fuck was Togashi thinking with that arc.
This is the greatest consistent shitposting I've seen here.
I'm not saying you're wrong, but is there really a need to talk down to other works?
Isn't liking hxh alone enough?
kino spread
If you take a bunch of goofy furries and make them murder north korea you can sell a love as respect story to NEETs over board games and a nuke.
Plato was HS for me. granted it was AP English Language so "academic" (regular) english students didn't read it. Our teacher told us they got to color shit.
same user.
quizlet.com
If you didn't know this then you didn't take AP English, ergo you weren't smart enough to place in it. Or, you lived in a shithole area where highschools didn't offer AP courses. I'm so sorry public schooling failed you user.
My nigga I had to read Platos Republic in history class, shit is fucking elementary tier
>the absolute STATE of hunterkeks
>HxH is just another Shounen filled with the same arcs and tropes as all the others
Wrong
All these hxh fans trying to start fights with jojo fans, but then they keep bringing up that hxh has better world building than jojo. Not acknowledging that hxh world building is ass compared to OP. They are just picking and choosing the easiest fights to win, hxh isnt the best at everything compared to other great shonen, why you gotta act like it is, why cant you stop pretending and just be happy with your shonen?
Hunterfags are very insecure about their taste.
Since we're talking about writing, I'd like to point out the quoted anons use of "projection."
Can anyone prove that Laffite failed to hypnotize everyone in the room?
>changing the subject
let's ignore the fact that trying to argue your hobby is "mature" is in itself a sign of immaturity.
>gon is reskinned Goku with the added "complexity" of being a little unhinged in his stubbornness and moral compass
This doesn't make him an interesting or compelling character. He's so completely unrelatable to anyone that the only reason anyone likes him at all is that he's the main character. Look up "mere exposure effect". The only reason anyone could find him endearing at all is that he's created from the same tropes that Goku, Naruto, and Luffy stem from: rather dumb (though with a knack/talent for fighting), stubborn, and generally optimistic (except when shit really hits the fan [Krillin dying, Ace dying, Jiraiya dying, Kite dying]). Moments of badassery include angry faces after standing up the a hyped up enemy and utterly destroying them through whatever method (SS, G2 Jet Gatling, Sage mode Taijutsu vs Pain, Gon-san).
hxh.fandom.com
And this is just the main character. CBA to get into the shitfest that's the rest of the story.
Edgy teen media is much more embarrassing than actual childrens cartoons
Hell we were learning about Plato in elementary school from what I remember. I drew an image of Allegory of the Cave for a project.
It's an issue of gore and not an issue of comprehension, and it says so in your graphic.
It's marketing to kids who want to be able to see 'adult' things so that they can feel more adult, or like they are as mature as an adult. It limits Togashi's scope and forces him to include gore even if he doesn't want to. Oda isnt bound in this way.
1.Pretty Alvida
2. Bonney
3. Shylarly
4. Monet
5. Robin
6. Hancock?
8. Rebecca
9. Hina
11. Tashigi?
13. Perona
14. Vivi
15. Marigold
16. Zombie lady from Thriller Bark, I forget her name
18. Koala?
21. Fem Ivankov
22. Margaret
23. Keimi
24. Shirahoshi
26. Otohime
28. Porche
Ill say this, hxh has lots of characters flipping sides and becomes morally grey as the story progresses.
But, battles are mostly straightforward with needless explanations and each character's nen ability is basically just a "this guy can kill you in this goofy style".
But HxH doesn't have any of those things
>JoJo
>repetitive
You've clearly never read it, or even watched the anime. Even the main characters change, not just the themes and genres of each part
The answer to all of this is your """"singing""''' youtube.com
>There are a lot of artist who have done it in the past...
>Oda-sensei, for example.
Can you even read? In no sentence is stated that Togashi was influenced by Oda: in fact the purpose of adding so many different characters was to catch up with the cast of Capitan Tsubasa, not that with that shit of OP.
>About the color spread of Captain Tsubasa, Togashi considers "Junior competition France" arc in Captain Tsubasa has the most numerous named characters in Weekly Jump's history. He aims to break the record.
hunterxhunter.fandom.com
now go back to the hole where you come from
>tfw you used to love HXH as a child
>Can't even enjoy it anymore because of Huntards
>The characters have actual depth beyond just "hurr me quirky, me asspull new stands to beat my opponent"
I totally agree. There just isn't enough character development. Kakyoin? Yeah, I don't know a thing about him other than he was bullied in school for having a imaginary friend (his stand). Avodal? Just a fortune teller who works with Joseph. Jotaro? Lol, the most bland character ever. I really do like the fights though, it isn't dragon ball tier, and the resolutions are very creative. For example, Polnerif vs Hanged man was amazing, how are you supposed to fight someone who can essentially teleport at light speed? It was amazing to see how the gang forces the stand into travelling into the coin. It's nice to see almost impossible to defeat villains defeated. The only battles I can think of were Joseph vs Kars, and Jotaro vs Dio. Other than that, although the series has shitty character development, the fights are nice.
>>zou,big mom, wano
If you think that any of these arcs have any deepness to them you have mental deficiencies
>metaphor, allegory, metaphysical philosophy, and advanced mechanics
Holy shit this is so fucking funny this has to be bait or sarcasm if it’s not you need help
>What if JoJo somehow put all the violence and Stand abilities in context?
You mean by inventing a power system that has far more complexity yet worse creative output and that itself doesn't have any reason to exist other than dude it's a shounen so we need to have chi? Araki knows that all this bullshit about gaming the arbitrary system he invented isn't fun, what's fun is to see someone who can magnetize people use that ability in a real world context (in a town filled with metal) and stand physics can go fuck itself. Meanwhile hxh has fucking training arcs, eww.
Perfectly put, the amount of shit Araki did with "weather control" in a couple fights whooped decades of x-men comics
>Those are PhD level readings
This says alot about the hunterbase
HxH is at best storywise, chars developments
OP got better world building
JoJo is untouchable at creativity, abilities, designs.
*is best storywise
can u give example episodes or chapters of manga to read for that? I love x men comics but ever read jojo.
this picture makes me feel weird
based and correct, these 3 series stand at the apex of long running shounen
>dense with ideas
more like Togashi can't come up with a flowing narrative that makes sense and instead just writes whatever the hell he wants because he knows you retards will eat it up. No foreshadowing at all because even Togashi doesn't know wtf he's doing.
More than anything HxH is a conglomeration of narrative ideas Togashi has likely been wanting to write about which is why Gon is a blank slate of a character without any real goals. The end result is that the individual arcs are fairly good but the overarching story is nearly nonexistent.
What is One Piece ended?
inspires? OP never inspired anything, except shit
>Easter eggs = Inspiration
You need to be a special kind of delusional OPfag to mix the two things
Togashi and all the other chads execs in Jump making Oda DANCE like a little slave.
>le joestar lineage man discovers he has powers
>initially fights a bunch of people that eventually become his best buds and help him in future fights
>some great evil surfaces
>fight a bunch of random henchmen for 20 episodes
>boss reveals himself
>15 more episodes of boss running away and higher tier henchmen fighting the gang
>maybe 1 or 2 bros die along the way
>final fight with big bad villain is like 5 or 6 eps
yeah not formulaic at all
That's what you thought my post was about?
Interesting.
this is some ancient pasta, right?
He'll finish it in his own terms, while Oda has to obey his masters like an obedient dog.
>HxH will still be discusses in universities as one of the most ambitious undertakings in human storytelling.
c'mon homie
>JoJo will be just another obscure shonenfest like MHA or One Piece which are generic battle shonen at their core
Eh Jojo will go down in history for it's extremely western art style, character design, and insane coloring. It may be a battle shounen but it's fucking stylish
oh, and what was about, my dear brainlet subhuman? don't mumble, speak clear.
>incredibly memorable characters
name 1 (ONE) remarkbale villain from the first half of stardust crusaders
Why is Oda pushing for open borders and making fun of Japanese war heroes?
It's too High IQ for you, Hunter"chad". You would never understand as it's too complex and 4d chess for your fragile mind. You need to read more high literature for you to even have one IOTA of comprehension, my small-minded nonce.
j geil and hol horse
cringe
You would know.
I know a lot of people are trolling but there are some here that are serious. Can't we all just get a long? HXH fans have to overlap with OP and JoJo just from the fact there isn't anything else comparable to read during hiatus. Also Togashi was influenced by Jojo and you can tell this with the Territories he created and in YuYu and nen in HXH.
holy motherfucking based that user
Reminder:
Based double dubs
I'm an HxHfag who also loves OP.
I don't know where the fuck these "hunterchad" trolls come from.
How many hunterchad posts have you saved, you obsessed faggot?
>How many hunterchad posts have you saved, you obsessed faggot?
Ironic. Hunterchads are a Spook.
That's clearly a page from Bleach though.
If you actually read, follow and understand HxH, its impossible to enjoy reading childish shit like OP.
Rent free in your head faggot, as long newfags Yea Forumsedditors keep replying chadposting will never stop.
Do you even read what you save on your pc?
>Even now, somene will save this reply that I am typing up this very second...
>Togashi inspired ONE
This has to be bait.
I do all of that and enjoy OP.
The only childish shit is you for not being able to enjoy different things.
Of course, that's assuming you're sincere about what you say. I doubt anyone who actually reads and understands HxH would get into something as petty as a pissing contest over manga.
imposter,it's literally impossible to switch from HxH to OP without dropping the latter
*Murata
It's actually from Dororo
Tell me how you can move from watching a Tarkovsky film to watching Captain Marvel, and still enjoy both.
And what Murata has to do with that? He is drawing, not writing, OPM. And seeing how intricate and detailed the art is, we can clearly see he takes no inspiration in Togashi's sloppy doodles.
I do. What's your point? That Hunterchads are a Spook? Glad we agree. I accept your concession.
Murata is a big fan of HxH.
>PB
>BT
>DiU
>SO
>SBR
>JJL
Huntretards on eternal suicide watch
>Comparing capeshit to One Piece
That's an insult to OP and you know it.
Then choose one of his other works to put in that chart, faggot.
Murata literally draws himself bowing down in submission to the Chad Togashi.
>What if One Piece had thrilling, deep story arcs?
>tournaments are deep
They were meant for each other
I adore how subtle Oda can be with heavy subjects like rape and hegemony hidden behind a mask of an "adventure manga". Depending on which path humanity will take he will be remembered either as a prophet or all his works will be erased from history.
Based. Look at the top qt Togashi scored. Meanwhile, Oda married some used up cosplayer whore.
There's only been one tournament in HxH, and it was intended to decide a loser instead of a winner.
>And what Murata has to do with that?
OPM is 50% One and 50% Murata
without Murata's drawing no one would ever give a fuck about that shitty battle manga
plus some visual representations are identical.
Truly a power couple to be admired
>hunter exam
>yorknew
>green island
>OPM is 50% One and 50% Murata
False. ONE is the one dictating the direction of the series, Murata is just drawing. Don't misunderstand, I respect him greatly, he is a brilliant and astonishingly diligent artist, completely unlike Togashi. He is also very humble to not be a faggot and demand to have an influence on the plot and I give you that it is because of him OPM and my extensions ONE's other works blew so much.
Nobody watches DB for strategic fights.
go suck his cock
sasuga Huntard-kun
Murata himself says that he's inferior to Togashi.
Clearly not as an artist. And we are not comparing their storytelling as ONE is the one writing the plot.
yes yes whatever
>cosplayer whore
She looks better and sexier than the ugly hag you posted
toga is easily the best writer and the best artist in the industry
Oda's wife got passed around during conventions.
cope
>Clearly not as an artist.
Murata's art is soulless and dishonest.
I can understand you defending Toga's storytelling but his art is shit, even mediocre shounen jump artists are better than him.
You are an imbecile.
Do I have to spell you that I have nothing against Murata liking Togashi, I am against putting OPM on that chart because OPM isn't solely Murata's work?
Cope
>I am against putting OPM on that chart because OPM isn't solely Murata's work
you are right, its a combo work by two.
and a part of that combo was undoubtedly influenced by hxh
so the chart is right
Find me an interview where ONE admitted that HxH is great and I will concede. For now, all your arguments are retarded.
I quoted Togashi. You quoted someone else paraphrasing Togashi.
/out/
Underrated post.
ok, if ONE didn't get a single influence by Togashi, can you at least explain to me what the fuck is doing Leorio in a One Shot made both by One and Murata?
>but his art is shit
He drew this spread without the help of his assisstants, CGI or any other fraudulent third party interference. This is what it takes to be a well-renowed manga artist in the industry.
shut up assblasted subhuman.
that was a direct translation from the Jump Ryu Vol 21. watch it if you don't believe it.
>I quoted Togashi.
ok let me see
>Togashi: There are a lot of artist who have done it in the past...
>Togashi: ...Oda-sensei, for example.
it is not stating in any way that he got the idea from Oda you little (One)piece of shit. can you even read you own language?
So one expy character is enough to claim that the author was inspired by another? Not even mentioning that Leorio's design is pretty generic, it may be Maes Hughes expy as well.
Murata draws pages at least as good as that one and he does that en masse.
High IQ is the answer. You're fooled by branding whereas I can see the themes illustrated in both stories. Most of the time OP's themes are much more mature, though now that Togashi has entered the political arena that may change.
kek
yes I know, coping with that will be very difficult
Silver Fang is literally Zeno. When they're in his dojo, the guy that comes and gets them is Leorio. During the last few eps of OPM, the 3 main enemy designs are loosely based on the Royal Guards. Saitama does Gon's Jajanken during the OP, etc. It is very heavily influenced, or maybe more like inspired by Hunter x Hunter. There's more, but I don't remember them off the top of my head.
>le cope meme
Go away fag, your bantz is as stale as Succession Contest arc.
>He drew this spread without the help of his assisstants
Link to that info?
>Most of the time OP's themes are much more mature
>Yoshihiro Togashi has indirectly created a a bunch of retarded monsters
He should have stopped with YYH or milked it to death
he is no Oda
>Silver Fang is literally Zeno.
Again, they may be similar only because they both are greyhaired old men with a moustache.
>When they're in his dojo, the guy that comes and gets them is Leorio.
I don't know who are you talking about. Obviously not Charanko, some guy from HA? Then again, HA staff is as generic looking as humanly possible.
>Saitama does Gon's Jajanken during the OP
I doubt ONE demanded that.
He stated in an interview that he drew it all by himself, because it was kinda like the introduction to DC. It was very important to him.
Just concede already.
That's cool, he's definitely capable of good looking pages. Did he say how long that picture took him to draw?
Not to a half-assed argument. I told you already that I will concede only if ONE was inspired by Toga, not Murata nor some Madhouse staff.
HxH is honestly pathetic
kek snk is literally the only manga drew worse than hxh
cringe sweetie, learn your place while you are visiting here
he really improved his art though
Oda isn't the puppet of (((elites))) like Togashi
Togashi is pupet of no one
then explain why he is plagued by health problems?
->
cringe
kek, I dont often browse Yea Forums so it is my first time seeing this. 10/10.
Tse's ability is literally king crimson, I also find it funny that a character in the mafia has a copy of gold experience as well.
I like jojo, HxH, and one piece but I shitpost as and against each group
Based
So you are a traitor of each group? Unbased, you don't deserve to Fugopost
As expected of a fugoshitter.
Check my 4 mista
what do hunterfags think of snk? manga of course
Bad
Probably the same as what everyone else outside of your containment threads think. It's fucking shit.
What do JoJobros think of kengan ashura
Explain why is it bad
>OP got better world building
Sure, but fuck oda for not answering any of the 500 questions untill the absolute end of the series
>Hunter x Hunter
Increasingly complex world building and story lines
Due to this Hiatuses are common and necessary
Complicated charts and explanations are required
Characters are memorable and lasting
Fights are eh, but have world changing ramifications
One genre, but done expertly
>JoJo
Easily understood arcs
Complexity is less in the world building and more in the characters themselves and the circumstances surrounding them
seldom a hiatus, if then only for a month
Consistent output for 30 years
Some characters are forgettable
Better characters and fights, but less staying power
Every part has a different genre, showing the ability of the writer
>one piece
lol fruit
Did I do it right?
pretty based post i must say. add to the fact that there's not a single major plot point solved in almost 1000 chapters.
it's a roller coast of quality
the first quarter is good, in the second the author didn't have a single clue how to continue his series (s2 butchered the manga due to this), the third quarter was again good and the present part has a fucking killing pace because the author is lost at see for the second time
the drawing are bad, all the characters are stiff dolls with awkward/soulless eyes and facial expressions (I swear, I have seen fan art drew better than the original).
The thing I hate about Hunter x Hunter is that it tells you that nen is a deep system that takes dedication to master and then immediately ignores that and allows characters to learn it immediately. Kurapika shoves some chains up his ass and suddenly has four abilities while Gon was learning to punch harder.
That is because Gon is retarded. Oh, I know the narrator is trying his best to persuade you Gon is a genius, but let's be real. Killua and Kurapika can devise powerful and versatile techniques, he, on the other hand, learned only to punch.
lets be honest
togashi doesn't give a shit about hxh which is why he phones it in so much
I could maybe accept that but the ants and princes are even worse. Slap them with a bit of nen and they basically get a stand.
based.
hxh was good only at york shin, in old anime. the rest is shit.
Not that I'm disagreeing with your points, especially the art, but what did you dislike in the second quarter?
>Hey kaiman, what are these Kids doing?
>Let the children fight nikaido, that's the only thing they do
literally who
As expected of a huntertard
>Cake-y
>Cake-y
>Cake-y
>Cake-y
Why are HxH fans so autistic?
they're not HxH fans, they're falseflaggers who enjoy putting fans of different series against each other, it's not that difficult to get after years of shitposting
manga written by a woman, so shit
I'm fucking brazilian and some of those were required at my high school(Metamorphosis and The Prince were common ones). And almost all of them were at least required to know the ideology behind them.Hobbes, Locke, Rousseau, Kant, Marx, Weber, Foucault, Plato, Aristotle, etc.
>Kurapika explicitly wants immediate power and techniques at any cost for a specific cause, with no concept of his future or potential beyond that cause
>Last ability can be a death trap because he didn't think everything through
>Gon and Killua want to grow organically, and besides needing nen in general at that moment, wanted to come up with actual things that suited them
>Their instructor explicitly lives by slow and steady and then outright stopped Gon from using nen for 2 MONTHS, which Killua jumped on board with along with him
Yeah, no idea how Kurapika got ahead. Complete mystery. Probably an asspull
>PhD level reading
>fucking pocket story books like Metamorphosis
Hahahahaha
HOLY BASED
Dude if you have read all of those books you are VERY well read most people don't even know who Hegel is the fuck.
This is coming from a philosophy major
Did Togashi actually name drop any of those books though?
Cause I think you're just making that up
ok but did you have to read the whole book, or like, 30 pages?
>hunterfags are all basement-dwellers still living with their parents
You can't make this shit up.
dont worry, ill do it for you
>incredible worldbuilding, massive variety of places and cultures that give arcs huge amounts of variety
>leverages its length to have a complex and ever changing political landscape
>a genuinely living world, so many other characters with their own goals and motives all clashing together to create a brutal and chaotic world
>absuredly good long term storytelling, oda is unrivalled at pacing large story beats across arcs. feels like you are reading an epic saga rather than a more loosely structured manga like HxH or jojos
>straw hats are a great group of characters, and perfect for the usually more exterior nature of arc plots
>fights are not that strategic, but make up for it in their intensity and emotional siginifance
BASED and Hakipilled!