Which shonen manga has the best art?

You can say whatever you want about the writing, but the art in MHA is great.

stop being a rent free faggot
Idk about worst art but yea probably hxh or neverland

oh god i just remembered the scene where emma and norman see each other together. emmas ear was drawed fucking three times when she ran towards him and literally right after that he """"noticed"""" that her ear is not there

Why do people praise Bleach's art while at the same time hating on HxH's art? HxH characters have more varieties. The art can look really good when Togashi tries.

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Not even up to debate.

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there is no soul in that drawings. when i look at that it literally looks like fan art to me. and its sad to think that a mangaka dont put his whole self into his creation

Absolutely god-tier

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Because they live in their bubbles and most likely only read own shonen manga in their lives
185331546
not even worth a (you), cherrypicker-kun

I literally shivered at this page right here

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one*

Oh Great! can do both.

You want more? Okay

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>THAT FUCKING HANDS
>Best art

Nice meme

? I have over 200+ top tier pages saved on my PC, we plan this game if you want to

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Or maybe this?

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we can play*
get the tank scans, you retard

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>200+ top tier pages
When are you going to start posting them?

My absolute favorite is this one

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if he have to dedo the whole page he should have done it before releasing the pile of shit. its not that hard considering that the first versions are literally doodles

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thanks for contributing to my shit art folder ^^

Tosh's Shokugeki cannot be compared to any other weekly Jump.

You're welcome, save this one too.

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All of Kishimoto's work.

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Where the hell is the nose of meruem all of a sudden?

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I hate to admin. The chicken is on spot

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nips don't have problems with that because they can respect the author's health issues, only uncultured swines and amerimutts like you are disrespectful as shit
pic related is from the same chapter and again, you posted an unfinished page

forgot to add the pic

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when he takes a ridiculous amout of free time to """recover"""" he should give a specific amount of quality with him. If he cant even do that he should end his career and move on with his ""health problems"""" which are called Dragon Quest

That looks horrible as well. No facial detail not much background. there is nothing remarkable in his art

the b&w part 5 scans don't do the art justice (although this one comes off alright) because the contrast is turned up and the shading/details are lost.
on the other hand the color scans have more detail but are less visually appealing than b&w

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>the contrast is turned up and the shading/details are lost.
Thats a problem with pretty much every scanlation

>he should give a specific amount of quality with him.
He does, otherwise it wouldn't sell 1mio. per volume.

yeah it just stands out for jojo because the art gets very baroque

Btw everyone is mentioning BNHA, HxH. These two series are usually recommended to watch not read. It is about popularity after all though.

i dont argue at all over the story itself. i understand why its selling so much with the good story but mangas are a visual medium. If you cant give us the images in the specific situation he want us to see, it will not help much throwing in a doodle on a napkin to make up for it. it shouldnt be that hard to at least hire an assistent if he has such problems

Dr.stone objectively, hut it's boichi so it's basically cheating

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Ahem

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Terrible generic digital art with tons of black space. Kishomoto really hit rock bottom with shippuden. It's a shame because nardo part 1 had great art.

toriko

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Did kishi kill your parents or what

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Was waiting for someone to post something from Toriko, thank you, user.

Yeah, I'd go for either Boichi or Murata with Eyeshield 21.

Please do not post anything togashi, it's giving me eye cancer

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>Terrible generic digital art
?

Why is every bleach page without background?

Just look at the pic you posted and compare it to this. It's quite obvious there was a huge dip in quality between parts1 and 2.

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That page feels like silk cloth on my dick

so close

So that you may print and frame them, theyre art

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Eyeshield 21
If anyone have this color page cleared it would be appreciated

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Not the best but I like the art in AoT a lot.

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>file name
Who are the 1st and 2nd?

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Kawada's certainly up there. You rarely get inventive shit like this.

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Best manga ever.

Nemu and Nanao, they got the looks but more importantly they were brought up properly

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this shit is fucking ugly

>Nanao
t. Kyoraku

based, it deserved far better. hoping for an anime reboot

>axed
>best manga ever
yikes

Shonen legends:
1. Dragon ball
2. One Piece
3. Toriko

>shunsui putting nanao 2nd

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>toriko
lol nice try jump staff

>ran for 8 years
>thinking popularity is directly related to quality
the fucking anime was what got it axed, not the manga. Anime was an abomination made for 4 year olds.

Everyone likes Toriko. They just don't know it.

I hope Kawada will make a battle manga after Hinomaru

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So we dont suspect you are him. But I know better

It finished its run though

Peak: HxH
Consistency: Jojo

I always really like Murata's art in E21.

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Wrong
Peak = Dr.Stone
Consistent = Dr.Stone

After Glacial Period and The Sky Over the Louvre comes another completely original story with stunning art by a leading mangaka, bestselling author of JoJo’s Bizarre Adventure. Rohan, a young mangaka, meets a beautiful mysterious young woman with a dramatic story.

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Actually can agree with this.

There's something about Dragon Ball that makes it endlessly pleasing to look at in spite of not being the most detailed manga in Jump.

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I really liked late Magi

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and Orient is pretty good as well

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Nakaba, easy

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KINO

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God that looks shit

KOCCHI WO MIRO

Posuka's art is so inconsistent that for a whole week people argued that (post-timeskip) Norman was someone else.

Posuka is only good in CPs. Almost anyone in jump trash her in terms of consistency and chapter art.

God that looks incredible

What's top tier about that? All of your "Top" Tier pics are fulfilling the minimum requirements for a manga page. A background, reasonable anatomy and seeable bodies. It's far away from art yet alone from masterpieces

Togashi's style is simple yet effective, he always adjusts his art according to the atmosphere. Your post proves that you don't know a single thing about art, let alone the genius of Togashi's panel composition and flow.

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Kind of hard to go by manga since the artists change over time significantly. For me, Togashi from the start of YYH to Greed Island in HxH is by far the best. Kubo from Soul Society to Deicide is very close second. People give Kubo shit for nobackgrounds, but I love the clarity and aesthetics of it all.

Horikoshi has great range, I wish he would go to Okubo levels of self-indulgence if he ever writes another manga again.

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I like the way he draws women.

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zombie powder but when i hear kubo went full samurai with his bleach i was kinda jaded.

So only 1 volume of HxH out of what, 36? Kind of pathetic.

Anyone who doesn't say Rokudenashi Blues is wrong. Maybe also Bastard.

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this

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What a really sad thread with anons thinking there can be an absolute best art and using only popular stories as examples

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>HUGE eyes and freckles
nah

Jojo

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This image looks horrible. Everything is just packed with dots and there's no composition. A gradeschooler could do something like that given enough time.

Magi has great art, but trying to understand what's going on in a given panel is far harder than it should be.

Honestly. Horikoshi's art is fantastic. I think a lot of people just don't think about it becuase the anime hardly does it justice.

Why are anti-hxhfags always so mentally ill?

stop posting bleach
it hurts

I think most poeple are turned off by how sketchy and loose HxH is. But honestly that's probably what makes it so charming. I kinda like how the emotions/meaning behind what we're seeing can often be seen in how Togashi chooses to render it.

Just for you

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>Why are hxhfags always so mentally ill?
FTFY

What's your Peak Araki? I feel like there's this space between late part 3 and early part 5 where it's pretty much perfect to me.

Slam Dunk
Eyeshield 21
Dr. Stone

I really love how Early Naruto looked. It had a lot more life to it. I dunno I feel like as it went along a lot of the life got sucked out of it.

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Based

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I thought it was gonna have to be me. Yeah, Toriyama managed to hit this sweet spot between cartoony and dramatic, both with his art style and his design. I can't even say he's the "best" artist but his art is just endlessly appealing.

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Yotsuba

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I gotta say, Oda's art always does it for me. While his "stretchy barbie doll" proportions can get annoying, he's really great at creating a scene and making pretty enjoyable character designs. And since his style is so loose his action scenes have a lot of energy.

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>tfw too poor to buy the artbook
I need to get a job

The artbook isnt on sale anymore anyway

Simple and effective doesn't cut it when you're talking about what is objectively best art.

Was it a limited edition or will they sell more copies someday?

>literally no u response
pathetic, back to your mha thread

It was limited edition

Fist of the North Star.

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Dang that sucks

Good taste

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>HxHfags actually pushing HxH art as being the best in SJ
What is wrong with you?

Literally name a better artist in SJ than Togashi

Literally most of them. Togashi tells a compelling story but his art is mediocre and down right lazy most of the time. He's one of the better ones when it comes to paneling however.

Not the best, but I think Neverland is pretty great from the current running WSJ titles. Pic related from this week was great, though HQ scan should be even better.

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Posuka is great illustrator, but a terrible visual storyteller.

Togashi's art is mostly shit man. He can obviously do panelling but rarely fills them with anything but generic scribbles. Having a couple of pages every now and then that look great is unimpressive since most mangakas can do great pages now and then.

And composition, choreography, point of views, character designs etc

But when he tries he absolutely BTFOs all the other mangakas in Jump

>composition, choreography, point of views
These are all part of paneling. Togashi is a good storyteller period, and good at placing stuff narratively, but the actual art isn't anything special.

>character designs
No.

No because when they have time and really tries they can do stuff that looks better than his too.

I hate HxH fags with a seething passion, EVERYONE with eyes will tell you Togashi's art is pitiful at worst and mediocre at best.

My god, you fags suck the guys dick more than One Piece children, but at least they have the decency to call Oda out and know its a kids show.

If you think Togashi's art can stand with ANYONE in this thread, kill yourself.

>but a terrible visual storyteller.
How so? Isn't it the writer that does the panelling layout? (at least that's what I remember from the wsj documentary Bakuman)

How anyone can read HunterXHunter and not see Togashi as a terrible visual storyteller is insane, the current arc is 80% text boxes and scribbles.

Get the mans dick out your mouth.

>Character design
Hahaha no Togashi is character design are weak as fuck.

I meant that she cant maintain consistency through the pages. She's always missing proportions, design, details, etc. I think it's her first time.

cringe

High IQ post
Low IQ post

t. skimreader
My comment had nothing to do with Togashi
Ah, okay. Yeah, I definitely see what you mean (Emma's reappearing ear get pretty bad, especially when its literally a page before Norman notices its missing), but I think "terrible visual storyteller" is much too harsh, especially for a weekly series.

Check out YYH and Level E. You'll change your mind.

can you read? obsessed anti HxH fag

So god damn good

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Why are you incel?

First thing I noticed are the ugly speed lines and lack of backgrounds

I kinda agree, it's hard to explain but just looking at some pages makes me happy inside.

saint seiya g assasin

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Long arm tribe I see.

>seething

I'm rather fond of Medaka Box's art

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Part 7 is peak Araki to me. I can’t really put my finger on why though.

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YYH has some really good art at very rare cherry picked moments like pic related, and that's the utmost extent of how good is art has been so far. I don't get why you're so obsessed with trying to make Togashi be the absolute number one in every aspect. He as well has weaker sides to his work.

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>that fucking disgusting shading
>top tier

>composition, choreography, point of views
That's paneling you retard and even then they're mangaka's that clearly are better than him at this. Ffs ONE is better and his art is objectively trash.
>character designs
No, most of his character designs are quite weak.

whats your opinion on the rest tho?

ONE is literally the best in the industry when it comes to paneling at the moment. Don't downplay him.

In Manga, backgrounds are not always necessary. Once you've established where they are It's not necessary to continue drawing it, especially if it clutters the page or breaks the composition. Granted you might be able to throw in a BG to the 1st "panel" and it may not break up the action, but it's clear the motion is more important and it either wasn't worth the time to fill in the rest or it wasn't important enough.

I always liked Nakaba's paneling

Part 7 has some pretty great shading throughout. Although I think Part 7 kinda suffers from a "everything has the consistency of fabric". Including people's flesh wounds.

Pepsi isn't really my taste

Part 7 and 8 are seinen, not shonen anymore.

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That looks nothing like the panel I posted

Literally your average hxh page

Nah, art's too good and there's too much of it

Muratas One Punch Man. This isn't even a contest, if you want to make a thread make it "which shonen excluding OPM".

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OPM isn't shonen retard.

I like obata

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Soulless

It is though?

This, this thread would be better titled "what WSJ manga has the best art", because that's all anyone's posting.

I miss when Hoshino didn't draw Allen as a flamming faggot for fujoshi bait.
At least I have Kimetsu to keep me in check with suffering and "dark" design.

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You're gonna need to explain that one to me chief

Look, its that one argument everyone makes when there is literally nothing bad to say about the art.

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Only in America

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Was this literally the first post mentioning opm? Holy shit you guys are faggots

It's seinen retard. It's literally published in a seinen magazine. It's factually a seinen. Your opinion of what is shonen and what isn't is irrelevant.

It's not a fucking shounen.

>not posting a seinen in a shonen thread makes someone a faggot

It doesnt feel like it was made by a human, but by a machine

Well that's to vague and shitty of a reason to be even taken seriously.

Isn't the biggest difference between shounen/seinen whether it has furigana to help read the kanji or not? Is that why people in the west struggle to understand where the line is?

Real best shonen art coming through

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Was this literally the first post mentioning Berserk? Holy shit you guys are faggots

I bet you'll show me the law that prohibits seinen magazines to publish shonen? Please check your fucking brain out if you think opm is anything but a shonen

>damage controlling this hard

>it's shonen because I say so, I don't care that it's stated as a seinen and is published in a seinen magazine
Your opinion is absolutely irrelevant. Fuck off with your shitty damage controlling.

The demographic of the magazine its printed is what defines the genre. If a "shounen" manga was published in a seinen magazine, it would fucking be a seinen.

Neither of these are even as good as HxH

>implying
(You)

Now this is some embarrassingly weak bait. But here's my (You)

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This is the correct answer

There is no other manga art that comes even remotely close to Berserk and i'm digusted it took this fucking long for someone to mention it on Yea Forums of all places. This is inexcusable. It's so detailed and great, it doesn't deserve being posted in a shit thread like this.

Throwing around buzzwords won't magically make it a seinen you faggots. It's a capeshit manga mainly consumed by children, just like most other shit entries in this thread

His art is great but he cannot frame an action scene to save his life.

Content of a series has nothing to do with the intended demographic, retard

nice

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>I'm only pretending to be retarded

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Don't forget about Akira Amanos art. Hitman Reborn might have been pretty mediocre overall but the art was stellar.

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Bobo bo

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Souma's art is actually really great, too bad it's a shit manga.

They do it to save costs. They get paid slave wages while American comics are all done in color with great details to the drawings. Shit, even the biggest manga series in the country doesn't get even coloring while indie titles in America is 100% in color lmao.

The Lupin III manga is visually distinct and is a throwback to old MAD Magazine comic strips. It's wacky and not necessarily refined, but it's far more aesthetic and stylistic than the generic samey looking anime style we're use to in most Manga today. Plus, whores are raped in almost every chapter which deserves bonus points. I own physical copies so I don't have any examples saved on my computer, but heres what I found as a reference after a quick google search.

kissmanga.com/Manga/Lupin-Sansei/Vol-001-Ch-003--Mystery-Woman?id=234390

based and redpilled.

It's not just costs. It's time. You gotta crank out like...15 pages a week. Even with assistants that is an insane schedule. Honestly it's because of that that I cut a lot of mangaka some slack. If I had to draw a comic on that schedule I'd probably have a bad case of sameface, repeated poses and no backgrounds too. Fuck I wouldn't make it to chapter 3 before that happened.

Murata and Boichi are soulless.

I love Sawaii because he's aware his art's not great and he uses that to elevate the humor. Honestly just really proud of the guy for getting the Shonen Jump gig at all.

I've got a harder question. What is the strong point (or points) of your least favorite Shounen artist? Or what's the weakest aspect of your Favorite?

She was Jump's female Oh Great

Good art with a story that was all over the place

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MHA does have some top tier art, don't know if it's the best though

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Jujutsu has some great composition and paneling. Same with Chainsawman. Most people ITT don't recognize a good art when they see it like these anti-hxhfags.

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You can tell this was drawn by a female since every male character has the face of a gross faggot.

Most people are plebs who think more detail = better art

Dr. Stone have the worst female designs in Shonen Jump

Why would I listen to the opinion of somebody that thinks composition and paneling is relevant when art is what is talked about?

I like Cocodrile's style

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I don't know what's worse.
>s.oyboy mouths
>gay seductive eyes
>horrendous hairstyles
>open shirts that show off unmuscular bitchboy chest
>outfits that are lower than cosplay tier
Is this unironically suppose to be good?

I like the way she draws the breaths, it reminds me of ukiyo-e.

>whisperfags shit up another thread

>composition and paneling is not art
Spoken like a true pleb

Jujutsu's author is Walmart Kubo but with no talent.
Chainsawman is good, but Fujimoto's panel work on Fire Punch is superior.

>There is no other manga art that comes even close to Berserk
Vagabond.

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Underrated post

>There is no other manga art that comes even remotely close to Berserk
HxH

Literally 80% of these share a generic artstyle.

>Not even one on top 5 except for OP is in pic related
Pathetic

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That's the toc rankings for the first trimester of this year you fucking idiot

>Top 5 except for TpN and Op are bunch of who's
Pathetic

The good
>DB
>Hokuto no Ken
>HxH
>Rurouni Kenshin
>YuYu Hakusho
The okay
>SS
>JoJo
>Yugioh
The bad
>Naruto
>Bleach
>MHA

I like Act-Age, clearly not the best overall and the guy characters look girly as fuck but girl characters and the way their eyes drawn are seriously pretty, especially Yonagi

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I unironically enjoyed Naruto part 1 a lot

Pretty? They look deprived of sleep. This art is atrocious.

>rurouni kenshin above yugioh

>The good
>DB
Ha

Kono oto tomare typically has relatively high-quality, shoujo-esque art with flowers and sparkles and shit, but as of late, when the artist gets out of her comfort zone, the results can be quite striking

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Must suck to be in the minority. Poor widdle baby.

there is Slam Dunk and Eyeshield 21, and there is other.

Underrated opinion but I agree. Oda is amazing when he pulls through.

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I prefer this.

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Disgusting. His sense of depth is almost non-existent.

You forgot the king of shonen - One piece

God*

good at drawing characters ≠ the best art, manga has backgrounds that a lot of the authors people like to mention (Kubo) outright do not draw

FotN, City Hunter, Slam Dunk and ES21
/thread

But backgrounds are mostly drawn by assistants. You should rather look at characters, paneling, shading, overall flow and composition in a manga, to determine whether someone is skilled or not.

Togashi's strength is generally in paneling, not art.

King of being stale and oversaturated.
12/10 for mentioning City Hunter.

We don't know how much assistants help any given author as it won't be the same with every series. Assistants can do any of those things as well.

>>I can be ranked among the favourites too if I bothered to exert myself
user you're just projecting your own sour grapes and bitterness into a professional mangaka - who by the way has carved a survival for himself in spite of his shortcomings.

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Early Bleach and Middle Reborn. In terms of fasion atleast

Nah it’s great not being blinded by nostalgia

City Hunter is just amazing to me because Hojou pumped out that level of art for 6 years, amounting to 30 or so tabkonbon's worth. I wish there's an old user around that can put this in perspective for me. Is that actually more or less workload compared to a modern mangaka?

Nah, Oda's great.

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That one is absolute garbage. The other you posted was alright though.

Different posters dumb dumb.

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Bad bait aside, MHA honestly has some decent art and aesthetics. And he clearly invests time into hatchings and spreads.

Personally I'd rather he dial back the details just a notch so we get the full 18 pages per week.

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That's not unique among Japanese artists in general. I enjoy Act-Age's aesthetic too but what in particular about it draws you? I'm actually keen to hear that

>>ranking clearly just based on personal feelings
Why don't you give that ranking a name so you can whisper it to yourself every night and bathe in your own superior taste.

The mangaka (I believe she's 21) has mastered still arts.
Most shounen need a lot of motion lines to convey dynamic motions or focus our attention on a specific point. act-age does not over-saturate each page with many of these lines, but it's easy to see what is going on and the character facial expressions.
My biggest problem is the lack of background details though.

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I miss the toriko manga

>what in particular about it draws you?
For the colored pages, doll-ish aesthetic but with actual sense of depth on their faces (shown by very smooth shading blending of the skin on the colored pages , especially on the first volume cover, I really liked that one). It's like a photograph of a very pretty Dollfie and I like that kind of aesthetic

For black and white pages and overall art, Shoujo-ish and Doll-ish aesthetic, bodies, and faces combined with near sleep deprived and highly detailed cat-like eyes (I'm a sucker for sleep deprived/tired/horror-ish eyes like in some Kaguya and cat-like eyes)

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>soulless
Nigga

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best panel incoming

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All things considered, which means technical skills like composition, posing, linework etc is accounted for, but so is character design, tone & shading etc it goes like this
>God tier
Takehiko Inoue
>Great tier
Akira Toriyama, Kazushi Hagiwara
>good tier
Yusuke Murata, Tsukasa Hojo, Tetsuo Hara
>mediocre to who cares tier
Literally everyone else.

Boichi

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>boichi
>soulless
t. someone who's never looked or read anything boichi

Bruh this is about shonen, of course there's no berserk

Dr. Stone, it's expressive as fuck and Boichi had a decade of seinen under his belt before he drew it.

Literally three rage faces

Who would even listen to an opinion of a retard that can't even follow the single rule of the thread.

>This shit
>good

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Murata can't draw faces. Boichi can't draw period

Don’t forget the eye bleeding proportions

Apart from some of the any lmao woman it's top tier
But then boichi never been able to draw woman

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The page your posted also looks like trash and there're no women depicted.

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Another Yea Forums tier ̶c̶o̶n̶s̶o̶l̶e̶ ̶ shonen war I see. Art means nothing if the story, characters, and writing are dogshit. Pic related wouldn't be any better if the creator could draw well.

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Again a HxH page? I think we got enough of them posted already

Every mangaka in that list has only published one work with jump (except for Hojo and Toriyama), so you should be able to deduce which manga was made by each them, you braindead newfag.

Cat's Eye was a success, so he probably had more than enough assistants by then.

*of them
Like geez man, I wonder which SJ manga made Harada famous.

>some faggot in this thread said ONE has better panelling than Togashi

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it's a mechanically impressive feat, but everything else doesn't live up to that
it's ugly and cluttered, and while that may be intentional, ugly and cluttered nonetheless
pick a better page to convey your point please

Based and JoJopilled

I bet you wouldn't say the same thing about Berserk despite many spreads having the exact same hatching as that page.

These threads are full of fags that think that more random lines = better art.

Black Clover is up there

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>b-b-b-but da hagjhing!
D-d-d-did I fucking stutter?
I believe I stated that it was mechanically impressive. That means I was complimenting the hatching, dear retard.
Obviously I wouldn't say the same thing about Berserk because Berserk's design philosophy usually isn't total garbage like HxH tends to be. My criticism pertains to what that went towards, which doesn't seem worthy of the effort applied.
I remain willing to be convinced if there is a more visually appealing page you'd like to show me, as to convince me this is the "best shounen artist" there is

>going off panel to show you are better at panelling?
Are you by any chance retard?

So you like the hatching? What are you bitching about then? The page posted is a great example of hatching, and as you said its "mechanically impressive". Berserk is basically only hatching with a few examples of good art, but mostly because Miura focuses on details. Togashi has him beat in panel composition, choreography and POVs.

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Sailor moon is the best shonen you retards

Togashi's art is very engaging. He depicts moods, not just details on every panel. "He's consistent in being inconsistent", Morel once said to Gon but obviously alluding to Togashi himself. Sure his art may look inconsistent as a whole, but so does the world when you're riding a fast car. It blurs and only when you stop, is where the moment reveals itself, where the detail is accurate. Same with his art, he wooshes past the "unimportant" parts (you'll only glance your eye over them anyway) and focuses his skills more on the important parts (where you would often stop and even go back twice or thrice to awe at it again and again). I think most of all. His panel work/page layout is some of the best in the buisness

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Tabata understands boob anatomy quite well too. He doesn't draw them like balloons but rather like water bags as they're supposed to be

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See now this is a far better show of skill.
>What are you bitching about then? The page posted is a great example of hatching
And for some reason you think that's the end all be all of being an artist.
What the fuck is it with you and hatching?

Too bad his character designs are boring as fuck.

it's a shame Tabata's faces aren't on par with the rest of his work. That's my only complaint really

There is no panel work involved if he goes off panel, user. Sure he creates fascinating and cool stuff but that is only because he is breaking the rules.

Why do HxHfags make it their mission to piss off half the population of Yea Forums at the drop of a hat. Knock it off you faggots

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Right now, of the ones I know? One Piece.

Because you were supposed to criticize the page not the overall work present in 390 chapters of HxH. You clearly liked that page since you think its a good use of hatching. I can post you some pages of Berserk that would make you throw up, but it doesnt mean that Miura is a bad artist.

Post some examples of what you consider good paneling, then.

I don't think the people that actually draw these pages get this upset with each other.

SOUL

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This looks magnificent

>You clearly liked that page since you think its a good use of hatching
No, retard. I acknowledge the page has a great deal of skill behind it. I do not like how it looks, however.
You realize you can criticize aspects of something while also recognizing its merits yes?
Likewise, you are allowed to like something and recognize its flaws at the same time.
Now stop being a retard that conflates effort applied with quality of result
>I can post you some pages of Berserk that would make you throw up
Oh by all means then. I'll wait

This looks shit

it's really weird, huh

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>da rulez
There are no fucking rules, if it fits on the paper, then it's fair game.

Do you know what manga that have similar arts to Act-age?

Why are you backpedalling?
from
>I believe I stated that it was mechanically impressive. That means I was complimenting the hatching
to
>I do not like how it looks

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it's almost like the OP asked about shounen and not seinen....

Do those subhuman brainlets even read the OP or they just mindlessly wonder into a thread and start posting random shit?

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Something being mechanically impressive has absolutely nothing to do with liking how it looks.
They can't backpedal between dimensions.

I don't have examples but basically mangakas that can created good flow of conversation / action / dramatic scenes without having to show off and are restricting themselves to the box model (not necessarily rectangular shape). One panel should be the focus of the entire page, it should always create continuity within the other panels nearby. Scenes inside the panel shouldn't have more than one/two central focus.
To note that any mangaka can create good panel composition and it is obviously impossible for every page to have such thing.

Are all Huntards as illiterate as you or are you just an actual retarded?
Regardless, there's nothing immediately offensive about the page you provided. I'm sure what you want me to focus on here are the faces, which while are stylistically strange are not enough to "make me throw up"
Certainly not as bad as some of the faces you'll find in HxH
Not only that, but this page is not exemplary of Murata's hatching abilities that you so covet, let alone the best example in that chapter.
I'm afraid you're the one who's backpedaling here. This is where I stop replying to you and post a page from MHA to spite you
By the way neither HxH or Berserk are shounens

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shouldn't*

Togashi uses many tricks that could only be done by a master, like using extended panels to imply focus or time's passage, or like Kurapika's chain carrying from panel to panel implying the sense of momentum and snap of the chain as he pulls his arm back, or like using the absence of clear panels to let the page's last image act as a sort of framing device. Here, the extended panel focused on Kurapika's arm reflects the guard's preoccupation with discovering Kurapika's powers, the focus of his own eyes. I also like how we're led into this guard's perspective by the headshot that exists outside the panels entirely.

The cohesiveness and depth between writing and panelling in HXH exceeds anything else ever published in WSJ.

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cringe

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you hxh fags are imbeciles who will never accept god boichi beats that piece of shit of hxh art.

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yes, but this happens mainly because she´s too damn slow and she had to speed up eventually. If TPN was made monthly, her art would imrpove like in the first volumes.

eat a dick, mouthbreather

Why are Whisperchads so desperate? It's so sad to see people trying to convince themselves that scribbles are """""good""""". He is by far the worst Mangaka out there just accept it. It's the truth

oversaturated art and awful panelling. Masanori Morita inherited his art and improve by volume 10 of rokudenashi Blues.

A Down-Syndrom Kid with Parkinson beats togashi. That's not hard. If I ink my ass up and fart over a piece of paper it's gonna make a better background as Togashit already

>not getting that my comment was a joke about and thinking I was actually surprised there was no Berserk in a shounen thread.
Or maybe you're on new levels or irony I'm unaware of.

Isayama is great at panelling and can give you some really cool eye candy panels from time to time. the rest of the time hes just ok, at least not shit like his first volumes.. good thing AoT plot is great. hope he eventually writes a manga with a better artist.

Literally who?

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literally seething

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Why is berserk author praises again? This looks like garbage, proportions are all over the place.

Based.

Its mostly newfags who defend Berserk.

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HxH is so sublime in it's simplicity. Togashi doesn't clutter his art with anything unecessary. Everything fits together exactly how it should to produce the maximum impact of any one panel.

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>Takehiko Inoue

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Jump had really good logo designs in the 00s. Whoever came up with the logo of Bleach, Naruto and One Piece deserves an award.

>manga
It's all shit.

BNHA Anime > all of your manga art put together

It's not even better than the MHA manga so how can it be

Bones tends to have great animation and especially great art style, so while I haven't seen the BnHA anime, I'll believe it's good animation.
But overall, I much prefer manga art.

Oda is a better artist than Togashi then

I disagree but when you compare anyone to Morita, the literal GOAT, they will come up short.

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togashi has the worst character design out of all lol

Here we fucking go with the autistic mud fighting

I'm new to this thread. What kind of shitposting is this? How many levels of irony?

Wrong.

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I didn't say he never makes any good character designs, his average is just down in the dirt

just look at basically every single chimera ant, looks like a joke

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Nah, she's bad. Emma's face changes every panel.

Is not even a match ...

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For me, it's One Piece

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THat's seinen retard

One of my favorite pages

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It's a homage bro, Inoue is not a hack

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>Emma's face changes every panel.
Example?

Oh best art? Probably kubo. I still think one piece is nice for being so expressive tho. The dr stone guy is pretty good too tho. Pic related

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Please don't post color art in a manga thread. Manga is an art form of black and white and it takes a different type of skill to make black and white art and it's always more impressive than color. Color manga is for people that have no idea why black and white is so cool and impressive

The only reason why manga isn't commonly printed in colors, is because it takes too much time and way more costly. In other words, colored pages are always superior to b&w but the circumstances simple don't allow it becoming a norm in the industry.

It's completely serious. That's the worst part of Whisperchads. They actually believe what they say

Any answer that isn't Bastard!! or from that era is wrong.

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I agree with here. Imagine this scene without all the stippling and hatching, and you realize that that the scene isn't that well organized nor amazingly well drawn (especially by relying on abstract creatures as the centerpiece, things having weird anatomy and proportions suddenly don't count against the artist and is wrongfully treated as merit - especially since we're comparing it to other manga pages that DON'T use abstraction as crutch for "quality"). Don't get me wrong - the hatching and stippling is pretty well done, but that's simply a matter of taking a looot of time on that page to add details.

I generally view good art as being really good in this order: proportions and gesture > composition > style > shading > other details. If it's not good early on in this series, being good later on won't suddenly make it great. This page is really meticulous on that last category of detail, but really not impressive beyond that. For me, it's using stippling and hatching to make an otherwise okay page seem really good, but again, any competent artist (even mentioned in this thread) could do that if they dedicated the time to any single page. Certainly helps that Togashi likes to take his sweet time between chapter releases, compared to some other weekly shonens mentioned in this thread.

At least his takings are mostly for covers and stuff, unlike hori or toyo

>I-It costs more and takes more time so it's superior!

Absolutely shittier hatching.

Good one, I forgot Bastard was shonen, at one point.

When togashi tries is less than 5% of the manga. I like HxH but its better enjoyed with the anime.

Soul

I like OP’s cartoony character designs

manchild

I remember being the first person who was ironicly saying that HxH is good, and now people are still posting about it lol, feels good being a legend