Rei
Rei <3
best girl
Rei gang
Checked confirmed Rei best girl. Fuck Asuka.
Rei is for gentle hugs, reading books and drinking tea together.
She is the comfiest waifu.
*ahem*
Asuka and Rei are equally hot and I want to have sex with both of them.Too bad they aren't real.
Rei > Asuka
And that's why he made 2.0 all about Rei.
2.0 is better than episodes 7-19 of the original
Rei a shit
Mogudan a shit
Asuka best girl
Moot said so
Rei is gei.
"moot"
who?
Founder of reddit and 9gag
Teh Rei
*picture of penis
Gei
Ayanami is the best
t. Dollfag
tl;dr I still want asuka to suffocate me with her ass
aka you're a sub-human bugman sans sentience
fuck you, cunt
>likes ass
>Only follows sexual desires
Spotted the degenerate.
Posting the same image hundreds of times will never make it accurate, reifag. Eva does everything it can to present Asuka as an individual and Rei II as a sheep, and no amount of assmad 4channel posts will ever change that.
literally how in the fuck did you come away from the show thinking asuka has any individuality or worth?
A best
oh yeah I remember him, he founded facebook too rite?
OP is based.
Look at this cutie.
Is rei trip still banned
>these mental gymnastics
>missing the entire point of EoE
Shinji and Asuka come back from instrumentality after accepting the fact that humans exist in their own realities and will never be able to fully understand one another, since they're, you know, individuals with unique responses to suffering.
full reitard
Noa.
>imagine
>you cum
>asuka: "pathetic"
>rei: "pathetic"
which is hotter?
Rei's, of course.
Rei is eternal.
Asuka is for whorehouses.
Rei for hugs.
Asuka for fugs.
There. 20+ years of waifuwar finished in less than a hundred letters.
Checked. Never forget.
Rei of hugs.
Rei for consensual fugs.
Asuka for non-consensual fugs.
I want to hug and fug both
the free market never lies
fuck YOU
she cute
cute! CUTE!
NEVER POST THAT AGAIN...
delusional faggots
Heh, I made that picture like 2 years ago. The original didn't have the gun or the smug hand. I feel proud of myself whenever I see someone posting it.
>daddy issues
>pedo
>literal whore
>DOES IT FOR FREE
she's cute, badass and actually caring, unlike asuka and the clone
though if i had to choose between asuka or rei, asuka is superior
based and misatopilled
mommy
Based. fuck Asuka.
I liked the way she was depicted in the manga and how the manga better explains her soul being transferred from body to body. The manga actually gives her more a developing personality which adds to both tragedy (thoughts of her being lost and only a clone) and relief (learning that her soul gets transferred and her memories return).
>if i had to choose, asuka is superior
opinion disregarded
for me the only remotely acceptable girl in the series is the class rep and she is still shit but the alternatives even more so
>Rei is a true autist
>Misato is an addict
>Asuka is just a bitch
>Ristuko is for people with oedipus complex
>Raphiel has a dick
>>Raphiel has a dick
hot
Rei
rei is literally gendo's mass-produced fucktoy and a tool for instrumentality. asuka is at least an actual person.
even better to exorcise the debiru with
Do not you like to remember the fact that Asuka is a doll?
Asuka never accepted anything retard, Shinji decided to give a second chance to himself and to humanity
I am going to yank my fucking dick off to this when I get home
raphiel ramiel whichever the fuck it is
Indeed, Rei is the best girl
t. dollfag
lmao I wasn't even born when Rei was created
>you can return
>but only by your own volition
Stated by your shit waifu herself
>that pic
Such a shame one of the best episodes was animated by one of their worst artists.
>card has her name wrong
Guess it's a fake.
Rei is the reason why I am the way I am, for worse and for better.
OUT OF THE WAY
BEST GIRL PASSING THROUGH
I do not think so
this is now a misato thread
>Stated by your shit waifu herself
what do you want to say?
Based
Good joke
No, it's a Rei thread
it's always time for misato
>Rei is less than a 3/10
Agreed but that's still rude.
what's she doing in that box
being the best girl, of course
Rei do things to my heart
This
you join me now in the depths of Yea Forums where just hours ago tensions between auskafags and reifag escalated into namecalling. yet another in the line of many such hostilities, "will we ever see the end of this age old conflict?" is the question on all non fighting anons lips, who just wants to praise their waifu of choice in relative peace.
this great war that has raged as long as some newfags can remember has been going on ever since the "master" hideaki anno masterpiece "the boy that would not get into the robot" premiered. all we can hope for at this point is that civilian casulites will hopefully be low.
back to you tom.
tfw Rei has been the best girl for decades
keep telling yourself that
What happen?, Rei still is the best girl
By the way Misato>Asuka
epic bro here's some karma for you good sir !
at this point i'm convinced that only redditfags use this "epic have some karma" meme, it's forced as fuck
upboated
>using a literally 9gag screenshot
>n-no you're the redditor
k
Rei is PRECIOUS
Good thread.
Rei threads are always the best threads
Why this relationship is not canon?
because this one is
OL Rei wants to take you to lunch
I hope that the filename is a joke
But it is
yes
Shinji and Rei were close?
Who is this "moom" guy? Did he make Twitter?
Eyes are wonky.
asukafags are mentally ill.
This image is really cute.
Is there a variant of that image without the ugly hag blocking the image? I've searched for 30 minutes and still can't find it, even with the reverse image search.
Do it Rei-chan.
>best
>doesn't even play piano
check mate, rei/asukafags
The whole thing is wonky
>rating any of the rebuilds above the original
Shit taste brainlet. Just because it panders to your waifu you overlook the rushed characterisation, the tell-don't-show direction, the awful fanfic tier character of Mari and the stupid embarrassing Shinjibowl crap of both girls trying to cook for him.
2.0 was okay, but that's all. If it wasn't for the original series it's based on being such a masterpiece, everyone would have forgotten about it by now.
Get your faggotry out of this thread please
The eyes detract from my IQ, however. Image would be better if the eyes didn't make her look like a brain damaged child.
And then she would just look like a deformed mutant instead of a deformed mutant with brain damage, yeah I got ya
All the kaworufags are disgusting
Stop trying to act like it should be imminently over.
This is the anime version of the Hundred Years' War. Sometimes it goes quiet for a while, only to reignite because of a movie or new release - and at different times, it seems like a different "side" is winning, at least relative to the norm.
It won't end until Eva itself is utterly irrelevant, which could easily be over 50 years away, if it ever even happens.
>tfw the creator prefers a 1-episode character over your waifu
Imagine being a Reifag, pure salt and suffering.
Even so 2.0 is the best RoE movie
Asuka
>guys try to send her love letters in school and she rejects all of them
>guy begs her for a date through her friend, she ditches him
>people see her nude or in a state is undress, she reacts angrily and stops them
>only tries to get romantic with guys she's made a close emotional bond with
Rei
>regularly naked around other people, including men
>guy she barely knows gropes her and she doesn't give a shit
>walks around her apartment naked, but leaves her door permanently open
>footprints on her floor indicate at least one regular male visitor
For all we know, Rei could have fucked every single technician, security guard and intelligence agent in NERV. That's the downside of having a waifu with absolutely no concept of societal norms.
In EoE Rei is much more important than Kaworu, it is sad to be a Kaworufag
Nowadays the Reifags are punished by RoE since in those films the favorite characters of Anno (Asuka and Kaworu) are promoted and Rei is denigrated
>Misato is an addict
Unfair. She quits when she starts investigating NERV. An addict wouldn't do that. She drinks to self-medicate, and given what happened in Second Impact, it's hard to blame her. She one gets hammered in one episode, and that's because she's working up the courage to tell Kaji the truth.
>We'll never know what Shinji was telling Rei during that shot
>says it is sad to be a Kaworufag
>provides evidence of the opposite in their next statement
Based on your post I can conclude it is great to be a Kaworufag and sad to be a Reifag.
>this is all from just one episode
Misato a best
>>only tries to get romantic with guys she's made a close emotional bond with
That never happened user
>footprints on her floor indicate at least one regular male visitor
What humps on the floor?
>For all we know, Rei could have fucked every single technician, security guard and intelligence agent in NERV. That's the downside of having a waifu with absolutely no concept of societal norms.
Nice fanfic full of hate against Rei, nobody has interest in Rei she lives abandoned
Do you know what is canon?, Asuka trying to fuck with older men (Kaji)
>says it is sad to be a Kaworufag
Of course, being a kaworufag is being the worst kind of NGEfag that can exist, that's why it's sad
>provides evidence of the opposite in their next statement
I never affirmed that the reifags have good treatment at present
>Based on your post I can conclude it is great to be a Kaworufag and sad to be a Reifag.
Are you retarded?
By the way, read this
no way this wasn't written by a reitard
nice try
How the hell do the Rebuilds promote Asuka? Rebuilds 1 and 2 are all Shinji/Rei, Rebuild 3 is all Shinji/Kaworu. Shikinami is an imitation Soryu, without any of the character exploration. She's just a cliche tsundere who wants to cook for her baka. It's crap.
I'm a Misatofag, but I've always preferred Shinji/Asuka because it was the most interesting relationship in the series, mainly for its failings. However, if anyone "wins" the Rebuilds I hope it's Rei, because the relationship between Shinji and Shikinami is so undeveloped, and what is developed just isn't interesting. At least Shinji has some sort of connection with Rei in the Rebuilds.
Of course the text was written by some reifag so that the asukafags look bad
Are you stupid or what?
Buffing Asuka from some kind of noisy doll in NGE to a powehouse with literal superpowers in Rebuilds doesnt register with you?
What's next? Are you going to repeat the same conspiracy?
How is that even a conspiracy? Did you not watch NGE?
>barely interacts with her supposed love interest
>has next to no screentime or development
>can turn into a dog
Asukafags must be thrilled. They've really buffed up and improved her character. How can Reifags even compete?
The Rebuilds promote Asuka by erasing her flaws and giving her actual super-powers and a chuuni secret power backstory with the eyepatch. Originally Asuka was pathetic and begged for Kaji's dick, but that was creepy as hell so they made Asuka "pass" on Kaji in the Rebuilds. She really is just a cliche tsundere, but in pandering terms she's through the roof.
Rebuilds more or less reads as a revenge fantasy made by bitter Asukafags because Rei absolutely dominated her in the original show and for the majority of the franchise.
>but that's shit, Asuka's a shit character now, it's all shit!
Welcome to the club.
(Oh, and if Shinji saves Rei, that's good for Shinji since he's the hero, not for Rei. who wasn't even saved.)
lul
>How the hell do the Rebuilds promote Asuka?
Since the first moment that Asuka appeared in 2.0 Anno has only improved her character with respect to NGE, for example Asuka never defeated an angel alone but in her introduction scene in RoE she does it easily, some things like her attraction for Kaji now was totally eliminated or their dependence to the Eva02 or the approval of others is now non-existent
>Rebuilds 1 and 2 are all Shinji/Rei
The relationship of Shinji and Rei was used to say that saving Rei is wrong because Shinji will destroy the world, also in 3.0 that relationship was completely eliminated
>Shinji/Kaworu
Kaworu pandering
>preferred Shinji/Asuka because it was the most interesting relationship in the series, mainly for its failings
I still do not understand why you like that relationship?
>if anyone "wins" the Rebuilds I hope it's Rei
Rei is not going to win anything, I assure you, you do not know Anno hates her?
>At least Shinji has some sort of connection with Rei in the Rebuilds.
EoE could have a positive ending for the connection of Rei and Shinji in the anime
Reifags can't compete since Rei is written out of the story and humiliated as a doll. That's the point of the Rebuilds so far.
Step one: Introduce Rei as the same
Step two: Introduce Asuka as much more stable and stronger
Step three: Destroy Rei as a character and an admirable/interesting preson
Step four: Buff Asuka even further with ridiculous powers that come out of nowhere
Asukafags can now cheer at the enormous powergap between the two characters, and the new generation of evafags will see Asuka as better. It's pathetic, disgusting, and something only the lowliest of the low would do, but there it is.
Nah, Anno, Anno's wife, Ikuhara, Sadamoto, and Satsukawa are all Kaworufags so I think I'm good.
Meanwhile Rei is treated as literally who-tier to them.
Not really, Rei's lack of fear concerning nakedness rather testaments to her purity. She has no reason to believe anyone would harm or abuse her in that state.
Rather Asuka on the other hand, given her promiscuity, shows classic signs of sexual abuse. Hence her need to keep offering her own body to old men, perhaps out of habit.
It's true, but it's not right. The result is that Kaworu, Asuka and their favorites are inflated characters with inflated fandoms that may suddenly go "pop".
Rei still dominates the most popular girl charts among Japanese and arguably world wide, but otaku love Kaworu/Asuka now almost exclusively because they're the safe harbors of pandering.
You're not wrong, it's definitely not a good place to be with creators like Anno.
>Hundred Years' War
>Not the thousand year war
Anno's wife is basically Asuka
Very true, the asukafags love to pretend that Asuka is pure or a good girl when NGE shows the opposite, she looks for older men to she become in a woman, because according to her logic this makes her more mature
My original point was that being a Reifag is suffering and I have nothing but pity for them, your replies only evidence this.
Being a Kaworufag is nice because I can watch safely from the sidelines and put all my characterfagging into him so I can appreciate the rest of the show and characters from an unbiased perspective unlike Rei/Asukafags.
Rei is more of a person and "entity" than Asuka.
I mean, Rei is a literal divine being given human form. The massproduced bodies are literal spare parts whose sole intentions were to keep Rei alive should she die.
If Asuka dies she just.... dies and no one cares. It's just another form to fill out and that's that. Will her mother and father even care?
Doubtfully.
What's sad is that Asuka remained a tool till she died but Rei proved she had her own personality and basically MADE the entire show work.
I would disagree that you can view it without bias. Otherwise, yeah.
Anyone who's favorite character isn't Shinji is stupid. And I pity all of you.
>Anno's wife is basically Asuka
Nah, she's more like Misato if anything.
And she's drawn KaworuxShinji art in the past so she's a confirmed Kaworufag.
but Gendo is great too
Well, I would also argue that you have an inflated view of Kaworu. Which is safe for you.
But you lack the same type of solid grounding Reifags have, as Rei has the power of originality and an outstanding character arc encompassing the whole original story - widely regarded as the only story of value at any rate.
I just want that guy to feel better. Not in a gay way. I was like that before and improved but it is tough.
beards are gay
The person he describes is perfectly Asuka, I think that was his point.
While his wife may be more like Misato, what Anno sees is another thing.
>And she's drawn KaworuxShinji art
That's disgusting
>beards are gay
based annoposter
The description works for Misato as well.
massive improvement
I read the description and it sounds exactly like Misato.
For the Eva calendar she first drew a topless Kaworu and then she drew pic-related. Reminder that this is Anno's wife, she probably influenced him to put in Kaworu/Shinji scenes for Rebuild.
It's not like the original wasn't plenty gay already.
I doubt he needed much influence.
Sure, my view of Kaworu is extremely inflated and biased.
What I'm saying is I'm glad it ended up being directed towards him and not a major character like Misato/Rei/Asuka/Shinji which might have seriously warped my view of the show and its characters. I was able to preserve an objective approach to the show as a whole and appreciate their characters equally, whereas some Asukafags/Reifags haven't.
>Rei has the power of originality
Kaworu was apparently original enough to breed an entire character archetype/clones that still pop up in Anime to this day. Besides Rei and Shinji he's the only character who got that.
>Besides Rei and Shinji he's the only character who got that
It's not like Eva has that many original characters left after that.
>I read the description and it sounds exactly like Misato.
Kaworufag, the text is describing Asuka
>For the Eva calendar she first drew a topless Kaworu and then she drew pic-related. Reminder that this is Anno's wife, she probably influenced him to put in Kaworu/Shinji scenes for Rebuild.
I did not know that, even so it is disgusting, the kawoshin is cancer
Well, Anno wanted to sponsor Kaworu, basically he created a whole movie for him
The text is describing his wife.
Explain how that description could not apply to Misato, esl-kun
>Sure, my view of Kaworu is extremely inflated and biased.
Of course the kaworufags have a views very erroneous of the anime, for example they love pretending that Kaworu was a good guy
>my view of the show and its characters. I was able to preserve an objective approach to the show as a whole and appreciate their characters equally
The kaworufags do not care about other characters that are not Kaworu and Shinji because muh kawoshin
Very wrong desu.
Meanwhile Reifags like yourself are so biased you despise and hate on other characters (Asuka) from the show that you claim to be a fan of. I'm glad I will never sink that low as a legitimate fan of Eva.
Rei AND Shinji are really cute un the manga.
This is only something brought up by seething waifufags because they delude themselves into thinking that Kaworu didn't love Shinji. Rebuild literally proves you wrong.
She'll always be my FavoReite
Misato and Asuka are weak and sensitive, if you want you can relate both characters to Anno's wife but I relate her more to Asuka because she is a person more broken than Misato
Wrong, I do not hate Asuka I hate Mari and Kaworu because both are trash
Indeed
Kaworu sometime loved Shinji?
>Wrong, I do not hate Asuka
I doubt that, esl-kun.
And it's clear from Yea Forums threads that Reifags in general despise Asuka out of jealousy. How can you claim to be a fan of the series if you hate large parts of it or only enjoy the parts that involve a single character?
You're not an Evafan, you're just a waifufag.
Not hik but you are clearly projecting. There is nothing Asuka has that Rei isnt better at.
Oh fuck off. You even left out the part where Anno says he failed at Kaworu likeable. He tried and failed.
Misato isnt tsundere. That describes Asuka. Misato doesnt go around trying to appear stronger than she is.
Imagine having to blatantly lie and out-of-context a part from a completely different interview because you're this butthurt about Eva not having black-and-white villains and actual complexity.
Nothing in that description says anything about tsundere. And Asuka isn't a tsundere herself you retarded Reifag, stop grouping the characters under shallow terms that don't apply to them - Eva isn't some shitty harem.
>Misato doesnt go around trying to appear stronger than she is.
Yes she does you actual retard. Did you even watch the show or did you just jack off to the Rei scenes?
Thank you very much for making such a complex analysis about me, I appreciate it. But I did not know that all reifags are the same.
I hate mainly Kaworu and 3.0, NGE is a great anime.
Its not a lie. Look it up. Anno says it was a failure on his part.
Canonically Kaworu is shit and the pandering has not just inflated and warped your view on Kaworu, but also EVA.
No problem. Given how you just called Asuka tsundere and ignored a defining characteristic of Misato I'd say you never watched Eva to begin with.
I really hope not all Reifags are like you, that would be horrifying.
Kaworu himself is a copy of Asuka Ryo from devilman.
There is nothing original about Kaworu.
>Its not a lie. Look it up.
I know what you're trying to reference. A completely different interview from what I just posted.
Instead of responding to my excerpt (because you can't argue with it) you try to deflect.
Go ahead and post the other interview, you yourself know he doesn't call him a failure.
I'm not that guy, but even so I know that you're retarded because Kaworufag and retarded are synonymous, didn't you know?
Yeah, I love that part of Eva when Kaworu pulls out a gun and starts smoking in the car.
And Rei is a copy of Hotaru, but you don't see me complaining.
The traits described are classically attributed to tsunderes and it is commonly accepted as fact, also by Asukas VA and some of the writers, that Asuka is in fact, tsundere.
Your view of EVA is warped. There is also no need to be that asinine about this. Even if you dont recognize Asuka as a tsundere herself, the point is carried and your counterargument is just semantics.
Morover, the burden of proof is on you.
Putting on a facade of strength doesn't mean you're tsundere. Misato does the same thing in NGE and she isn't tsundere.
>Asukas VA and some of the writers
I'd like to see a direct quote on that. Asuka's VA has only ever called Asuka from the games and Rebuild a tsundere, directly noting she treated her as a separate character from NGE Asuka.
She may share some traits similar to the modern tsundere, but full-on labeling her as one is a disservice to the depth of Asuka's character. She is far more than that.
I know Anno admits he failed, and that in the end he (Kaworu) was just a strange guy. Anno also admits this was a lack of competence on his own part.
Rebuild Kaworu is also pathetic, to the point he is even made fun of in that pico pico crap. The only reason Kaworu is even slightly attractive is because the others were eliminated. There is no real.competiton except Asuka. Like others pointed out, 3.33 is more or less sponsoring Kaworu.
Rei isnt that, but Asuka Ryo is guaranteed the basis for Kaworu, as it is mentioned as one of EVAs influences.
>I know Anno admits he failed, and that in the end he (Kaworu) was just a strange guy. Anno also admits this was a lack of competence on his own part.
A quote from an entirely different interview that has nothing to do with whether he's a good guy or not. So you admit yourself you brought in another excerpt out-of-context because you couldn't deflect what I posted. Nice.
>Rebuild Kaworu
Yeah, pretty much. That's why I didn't bring him up in my post.
Your opinion is worthless. Asuka is what she is.
Furthermore, Misato does not put on a facade of stength. That is however, Asukas doll character.
She is, sorry. We already know Anno was a huge Sailor Moon otaku based on casting Misato's VA.
And yeah, no doubt. But being an inspiration is quite different from being a direct copy. So what exactly was your original argument?
It has the same context. On Kaworus character.
Kaworu is garbage regardless of what Anno says anyway. Just judge by NGE.
Get over yourself. People see why it reminds of Asuka, Im sorry your autistic Misato theory does not carry.
>Misato does not put on a facade of strength
>Misato does not put on a facade of strength
>Misato does not put on a facade of strength
Good god, please tell me you're joking.
Nah, it doesn't. That's why you couldn't offer a rebuttal to the original quote in the first place. You had to try to find another interview and out-of-context it because you knew you couldn't refute it.
>b-but who cares what Anno says anyway!
Yes, because Anno's words don't match your warped view of Eva. Based waifufag.
She isnt. Im sorry that you believe that. Its sad that you need to reach just because Kaworu is an inferior Asuka Ryo clone.
She doesnt. Asuka on the other hand, has it as the basis of her entire character. You can insist all you want, but you have no real argument.
Rewatch episode 25/26
I don't see how you can watch Eva and fail to understand Misato this much.
And his argument is?
>no argument
seething autist eho doesnt have the social antennas to know when he has lost.
>Anno: This is roughly the world-view for Neon Genesis Evangelion. This is a world-view drenched in a vision of pessimism. A world-view where the story starts only after any traces of optimism have been removed.
>And in that world, a 14-year-old boy shrinks from human contact. And he tries to live in a closed world where his behavior dooms him, and he has abandoned the attempt to understand himself. A cowardly young man who feels that his father has abandoned him, and so he has convinced himself that he is a completely unnecessary person, so much so that he cannot even commit suicide.
>And there is a 29-year-old woman who lives life so lightly as to barely allow the possibility of a human touch. She protects herself by having surface level relationships, and running away.
>Both are extremely afraid of being hurt. Both are unsuitable-lacking the positive attitude-for what people call heroes of an adventure. But in any case, they are the heroes of this story.
From the way Misato is depicted to Anno's words we know Misato puts on a facade just as Asuka does. That's why she breaks down later on in the series.
He's a Reifag. He doesn't care about any character but Rei.
The context is the same. Im sorry this destroys your fantasy.
Your fantast is based on warping NGE with noncanon interviews and spinoff pandering. Anno admitting he failed at creating the Kaworu you imagine destroys you because NGE kaworu is garbage .
It's not like you actually put up an argument to argue against. All you did was deny an obvious character trait of Misato.
Based waifufag saying Anno's words on the matter aren't canon.
I don't think you're one to talk on NGE considering you don't even understand Misato's character.
Eh no. Thats you. We argued why Asuka fit. You have zero except your autistic ahit that you push every eva thread.
Thats right we know its you, you stand out like a sore thumb.
>He's a Reifag. He doesn't care about any character but Rei.
t. kaworufag. I love that you make this affirmation when you only care by Kaworu
Samefagging. Shameful, kaworufaggot.
You are beaten and shold limp back. Your stupid misato theory never held, and makes nonsense given he basically ignores Misato as a character in everything he does. Didnt give a shit about her in EoE.
No one said Asuka doesn't fit the description just that Misato fits it just as well.
I have no idea who this "you" is.
Ever heard of Death of the Author?
The show takes precedence. I know this is difficult for a Kaworufag to grasp, as you have placed the entire worth of Kaworu on non-canon fantasy. That and you are the last person that should call someone a waifufag. I consider even the most deranged asuka or reifags as more sane than the common Kaworufag.
You've shown in this thread you don't care about anyone but Rei. That's why you attack Asuka every thread and didn't understand a major trait of Misato's character.
If I didn't care about them I wouldn't be discussing them in the first place.
What do you mean Misato theory? Both Asuka and Misato was fully written long before Anno married his wife.
Nice backtrack. It fits Asuka, not Misato.
Oh please. Stop pretending.
You can't claim Death of the Author just because Anno constantly proves you wrong.
Misato is shown time and time again to be hiding behind a facade. She drinks, she's messy, she pushes herself on Kaji all because she wants to run away from her past. She breaks down in the latter half of the series just as Asuka and Ritsuko do. That description can apply to numerous characters within the show because these are the defining traits that make up the bulk of the cast.
Not him but its obvious you are deranged. How about you stop shitting up threads with conspiracy shit and fuck off? Back to your kaworu tumblr.or wherever you scum presides.
I only attack Asuka when the asukafags attack Rei
You still have not explained why Misato looks like Anno's wife
This.
Kaworufags cant understand or even be rational about this because their fandom is founded on literature that denies the original canon. (Spinoffs, doujins, lip service interviews etc...)
It's been years since I last saw this picture, thanks.
It's real sad when you can't discuss characters rationally like, you know, an Eva fan should be able to do because this guy has made it his life mission to take over every thread with waifufag bullshit.
You've done a great job here of proving why Reifags are notorious for not giving a shit about anything but their waifu.
Kaworufag. You ignore Anno saying Kaworu was just a weird guy.
Thats your entire fantasy up in a gust of air. It matters to you because your idea of Kaworu was inflated and filled with fanwak. You cant retreat to NGE either as Kaworu was nothing but a failure there.
Death of the author is absolute in these cases. Your fantasy is based on Annos intent, to make Kaworu likable, which he failed at according to himself.
Its over. Go home.
Fuck off Kaworufag. Learn to take your losses with more grace next time, and you and your pathetic cancer of a waifu wont be the laughingstock of eva threads.
There, constructive advice.
These dolls look horrible. Who would pay that much for them
Again, who is the most broken female character in the program and who is the favorite character of Anno?
Kaworufags are literally insane. This is what Annos non stop kaworu pandering has wrought, monsters that feed on brainless pandering. Let him be a warning to all evafags. That is your brain on Kaworu.
reifags and asukafags don't have standards
How does that relate to Anno's description matching Misato, and even Ritsuko's characters?
If Anno wanted to say his wife was like Asuka, he would have.
The most broken person in the show is obviously Yui. She is a psychopath.
Kaworu is Tabris.
My wife Rei is so cute.
I'm not saying that that description does not match with Ritsuko or Misato, but of the NGE characters her favorite is asuka because she is a broken person who hides her problems with a false strength
I do not see the need for Anno to say that his wife looks like a fictional character
Why do you say that?
>The relationship of Shinji and Rei was used to say that saving Rei is wrong because Shinji will destroy the world
except that shinji was destined to destroy the world. rebuild shinji is way different from NGE shinji. in the rebuild universe, shinji is in the dead sea scroll and seele is happy when they acquire shinji which is the opposite of NGE. in the rebuild 3.0, seele waited 14 years just for shinji so he can pilot unit 13. not to mention there is something fishy about rebuild shinji like how he was able to activate eva unit 01 (who is presume to be one of the adam) and kaworu weird dialogue about something about "eventually even your own self is changed"
>also in 3.0 that relationship was completely eliminated
nope. you can see how mindfuck his was when he learned that he didnt save rei. also i noticed that he call rei "ayanami-chan". if that isnt enough the video Until You Come to Me show shinji coming to rei at the end of the video and shinji connecting to rei Q. (while he is disconnected with other
Ayanami Rei!
Yes! I love her!
She's very cute!
Shinji in rebuild is surrogate audience and a direct criticism of otaku culture expecting main character to use power of friendship and always have harems of women wanting their dick for no reason.
kaworu dialogue about "eventually you own self changed " is told after shinji asked him what should he do. also when shinji said to asuka : " those are our spear of hope". it shows the SDAT (which represent rei) and at the end of 3.0, we saw rei q looking at the SDAT and picked it up in Until You Come to Me
>a direct criticism of otaku culture expecting main character to use power of friendship and always have harems of women wanting their dick for no reason.
t.speed reader. honestly do you faggot even watch the movie carefully? muh philosophy just make you look retarded because you didnt even notice the new information in the rebuild.
and your philosophy doesnt even applied to rebuild shinji retards
>t.speed reader
You can't read a movie, fag.
Im used to /snk/ anyway
Best couple
is it me or im the only one who dislike NGE rei II and like other reis? (especially lilith-rei and rei III when she fucked over gendo and save shinji which remind me of a scene in SNK)
>in the rebuild universe, shinji is in the dead sea scroll
Can you remind me that?
>and seele is happy when they acquire shinji which is the opposite of NGE.
Kaji did not say that SEELE would not be happy with the third impact?
>in the rebuild 3.0, seele waited 14 years just for shinji so he can pilot unit 13.
SEELE and NERV knew that Shinji would return someday?
> i noticed that he call rei "ayanami-chan". if that isnt enough the video Until You Come to Me show shinji coming to rei at the end of the video
That video does not prove anything, but it's interesting that Shinji calls "ayanami-chan" to Rei, I think he had never done it before, right?
>in the rebuild universe, shinji is in the dead sea scroll
i will find pic for you
>Kaji did not say that SEELE would not be happy with the third impact?
I meant when they first acquire shinji (the third angel fight)
>SEELE and NERV knew that Shinji would return someday?
yes. kaworu said he has been waiting for him. and the final executor unit 13 is activated after shinji arrived (they said it required two soul but they could have use someone else but they choose shinji) and mari said shinji was seele back sup ( since the chamber of guf didnt close after kaworu death
>That video does not prove anything, but it's interesting that Shinji calls "ayanami-chan" to Rei, I think he had never done it before, right?
yes I think so but its reinforce the idea about shinji and rei which also happen in 3.0 when shinji said "those spear are our spear of hope" its immediately show the SDAT
seele back up*
I dont remember him calling rei ayanami-chan in NGE. but he did called her ayanami-chan while he saying why is rei q coming with him and kaworu? ( the scene where shinji and kaworu was descending to terminal dogma). you can watch and hear him saying ayanami_chan
>in the rebuild universe, shinji is in the dead sea scroll
sorry I dont know how edit but i will drop it here
You are retarded and didnt get Rei.
You have split up the same character.
>i will find pic for you
Thank you
>I meant when they first acquire shinji (the third angel fight)
I'm sorry but I don't understand you, what sense have the third angel in that?
>yes. kaworu said he has been waiting for him. and the final executor unit 13 is activated after shinji arrived
So, what would have happened if Shinji would never have returned?
>they said it required two soul but they could have use someone else but they choose shinji
Anyone could pilot the Mark13?
>and mari said shinji was seele back sup ( since the chamber of guf didnt close after kaworu death
I did not understand this
>when shinji said "those spear are our spear of hope" its immediately show the SDAT
Interesting, but the SDAT in 3.0 is no linked to Kaworu and Shinji?
Shinji still cares for Rei but calls "Ayanami-Chan" does not say much about his feelings for her, since he calls other characters by their names like Asuka and Kaworu and not by his surname as in the case of Rei
The description only matches Asuka on account of Asuka being the only character whose arc features putting up a fake front of strength.
Annos obsession with protecting such characters explains a lot.
nah there is a big different between rei II and rei III. rei II was a loyal dog to gendo while rei III realized that gendo is using her like a doll and betrayed him. then there is lilith-rei
First night after Shinji moves in, Misato's in the bath thinking about how Shinji was chosen and then an Angel was detected and started moving for Tokyo-3. After Shinji runs away and comes back, Gendo and Fuyutsuki are talking about how they predicted this, everything is going according to a plan written 14 years ago, and the next step is to get him closer to Rei. End of the movie, SEELE 01 and Kaworu are talking about the Third Child fulfilling prophecy. I got less of a sense that Shinji is personally named in the Scrolls than that he was manipulated to fulfill the role of a character described in them, and Seele are talking about it being fulfilled to a point and then start talking about apocryphal books that Gendo can only speculate about in the second movie, that sounds more like they're trying to subvert the plan that Gendo knows.
It’s implied that Rei II is inside the SDAT
Conplete bs desu. The difference is called character development moron.
No, that's just a theory
Uh, I... what?
Did you watch a bootleg NGE or something? Rei II was in no way loyal to Gendo. Rei II is Rei III as well, so what the fuck?
Fuck that's retarded.
>Fuck that's retarded.
It is, but it's 3.0 we're talking about.
Yeah, but I don't buy the theory either. 3.33 might be the worst thing Evangelion ever made, but....
nah.
De que te reiste huevon.
Where else could Rei be?
Lilith becomes Rei I as NERV took her soul.
Rei I dies, becomes Rei II.
Rei II dies, becomes Rei III.
Rei III tells NERV to go fuck themselves, and returns to Lilith, regaining her true form.
This is 1 character, and it's unfortunate if you were too brainlet to follow.
They said she was inside EVA01 in the movie. 3,33 is basically trying to shit on Rei and undermine her by placing her with Yui.
In the eva01, Rei was absorbed in body and soul
Exactly, Rei I, II and III are the same Rei
Lilith. EVA-01. Out after manipulation of both and a Third Impact we saw none of.
>regaining her true form.
I would call it her original form rather than her true form, Rei's fought too much to define herself as Rei and not as Lillith. Feels like a diservice to her to not consider Rei her true self.
Misato was thinking about how shinji has no preliminary records.
>I got less of a sense that Shinji is personally named in the Scrolls than that he was manipulated to fulfill the role of a character described in them,
But Kaworu mentions shinji name specifically. Also Kaworu seem to know that shinji awakened unit 01 then he proceed stop it with the spear of Cassius. Also the whole 14 years thing it’s also remind me that Yui is on this too. She said to Gendo “take care of shinji” and Gendo dialogue supported this too when unit 01 rejected him “why are you rejecting me yui?” Which is different from NGE because Gendo was silent there.
Talking about the 14 years plan, it was mention as a scenario but Gendo didn’t have the Dead Sea scroll back then so it might have been Seele scenario.
Yeah, you're right, I meant it as "original".
There's a reason Rei immediately changes her original form to the one she identifies with, i.e Rei Ayanami.
>They said she was inside EVA01
>In the eva01
I remember it was the opposite, something along the lines of them trying to find if she was there and finding nothing. then again I only subjected myself to watch that movie once and that was back when it came out, so I admit I could be wrong.
>There's a reason Rei immediately changes her original form to the one she identifies with, i.e Rei Ayanami.
Very true. Even in god form, she can't no longer identify herself as anyone but Rei.
Speaking of rei and yui, my theory is that they escape which lead to Ritsuko conclusion that shinji and SDAT are the only thing left in Eva unit 01. I think during the 14 years time skip, rei and yui might have escape somehow and rei fused with Lilith which explained why there is a gigantic rei head like end of evangelion. For yui, she is a little bit of mystery for me. In 2.0 mari doesn’t seem know shinji that well, but in 3.0 she seem to know Gendo calling him Gendo-kun. And she also said to Rei Q “ your original was a lot friendlier” implying yui. If she know yui and Gendo then why doesn’t mari know much about shinji?
Look. 3.33 is bullshit.
The short version is that Anno was raging mad that Rei was the most popular. He then tries everything he can to reduce her popularity.
That's why he just wrote her out in 3.33. There is no good reason for Rei to not exit EVA01 along with Shinji, as even the SDAT she had was recovered.
see Basically there is no reason to expect anything whatsoever.
3.33 is meant for the viewer see it the evangelion through shinji perspective. To shinji, all these new information and confuse the heck out of everyone (you). Basically you the viewer are in the same situation as shinji. Also what is with the Anno hating rei thing. He never he hate rei, he just find her to not mean anything to him. If he tries to reduce her popularity, 2.0 would have been focusing on Asuka and shinji
That's nonsense. It's just obfuscated to hide the fact that for six long years, Anno has been pushing idealized versions of his own favorite characters.
Anno hated Rei the second she got extremely popular and Asuka figures collected dust in the shelves. Otherwise, he wouldn't make a plot where Shinji (you) rescues and cares for Rei only to be hated for it by literally anyone right afterwards.
2.0 didn't give Rei anything except a chance to fail at arranging a dinner. She got saved and reduced to a damsel in distress, and that's the last we've seen of "Rei" for TEN YEARS now.
A literal decade where Rei has been a damsel in distress, and six years where the "Rei" they've been pushing is a clone doll.
It's impossible to do this unless you absolutely loathe Rei.
>She got saved and reduced to a damsel in distress
She was not a damsel in distress, before the end of the movie it was Rei who piloted her eva so that Shinji would never have to do it again. Rei in 2.0 was actively fighting the angels instead of waiting for Shinji to do everything. Also at the end of the movie Rei did not want or expect to be saved by anyone
Well, everyone knows that Anno hates Rei because Asuka was not more popular than her, that's why he made Rei worse so that Asuka looks better (especially in 3.0)
Yet that maybe true, you do have to understand that the response in 3.33 was in response to the fact that 2.0 fucking backflipped onto what the message was describing this was more of a response to all the otaku fucking destroying the idea.
2.0's saving grace was the stuff with both Kaji and a more human Gendo, which 3.0 threw into the trash.
That's a damsel in distress.
Rei pilots her EVA, gets trapped (didn't happen in NGE, btw)
Shinji saves her.
Damsel, in distress. Rei was less successful and less strong in the Rebuilds. People thought it would pay off in 3.33 but OH BOY were they wrong.
Shinji got all the cred for doing the right thing and saving Rei, but somehow Anno fucked up the continuation since he couldn't handle it, or planned it all along. Regardless 3.33 was a fucking disaster.
Point is, 3.33 was a shit flick made to compensate for Anno's burning hatred against Rei and Rei fans.
Then why make 2.0 in the first place? Anno is in charge here. It also makes less sense because 3.33 is even more otaku-pandering than 2.0 was, with the Kaworu and Asuka action/fanservice piled on deep with NO depth of character. Say what you want about 2.0 having a nice ending with Shinji and Rei, but that made perfect sense and added to their characters. 3.33, not so much.
Rei 3 is an absolute madwoman who had the biggest balls in the series. Rei 2 was a blind tool for Gendo until the very end of her life.
uh, dude
Rei 3 is Rei 2....
You've read too much of the manga. The TV series never implied a single consciousness.
The TV-series directly state a single consciousness.
One soul, the other clones aren't Rei, etc. If they arne't the whole thing breaks down as well.
00.0000% would make sense to there just being nothing inside there to synch with after Shinji left, but Ritsuko also has good motivation to lie to Shinji about the results of a simulated test with the Eva they're trying to keep him away from. That would make Fuyutsuki a liar, but Fuyutsuki is also motivated to drive Shinji to a suggestible psychotic episode.
I always thought the implication was the vessels have consciousness of their own, but they're as good as babies until memories are transferred.
It is not, as I said Rei did not want nor expected to be saved by anyone, she accepted Shinji's help when she saw him, otherwise she would have accepted her fate
If Rei would have been a damsel in distress in 2.0 she would have refused to face the angels and would have expected Shinji to do all the work
I know, 3.0 is an anti-Rei movie and a pro-Asuka and Kaworu movie
No, it's the exact opposite. They have no souls and no consciousness. They are just parts.
Rei is extremely important, as opposed to the doll Asuka whom they can just let die and get a replacement from the EVA pilot class. If Rei dies, they will literally remake her by moving her soul to a new body and reincarnate her.
I wasn't talking about Asuka you delusional waifu fag.
That's not even what a damsel in distress is. Look at the name. Damsel (Rei) in distress(being captured by Zeruel).
3.33 and so on is an anti-rei movie, but 2.22 prepped it. Rei was robbed of her chance to redeem herself.
So? I brought her up to highlight Rei's importance here. Fuck you too, go throw your dvd collection in the trash if you don't like Asuka being worth next to nothing.
imagine being a delusional kaworufag
>That's not even what a damsel in distress is. Look at the name. Damsel (Rei) in distress(being captured by Zeruel).
You are reducing the character of Rei to damsel in distress for only one scene from a movie.
In 2.0 Rei did much more than being rescued by Shinji
She did more, but not enough. Rei is so much more than that.
I know RoE Rei is not the best Rei but wanting to reduce Rei to just one damsel in distress is too disrespectful against Rei
Yes, Rei is much more than that, but with 3.0 now it is impossible for her character to be equated to NGE Rei
Activate Windows, you dirty chimp.
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Nobody knows
No.
That was a lie, anyway, he published his original intent for Kaworu and it was to have a human angel that would be mistakenly trusted. Then he added to the director's cut that Kaworu didn't know the real plan and thought he was mercy killing everyone. When he started writing the scripts himself he turned Kaworu into a gaslighting groomer in Rebuild.
>i want u to be my mommy, Ayanami-san
That's about the original Kaworu.
The Rebuild one is a shitty character too.
The Ree are mindless. Rei in a body sleeve has hazy continuity of memory.
This thread is a mess. Asuka vs Rei is like Coke vs Pepsi.
I want to hug Ayanami Rei.
She will make sure the pain goes away.
Rei would be Pepsi, because it is sweeter.
That's retarded.
I mean, even this quote proves my original argument: that Kaworu was always intended to be depicted as a good guy despite butthurt waifufags wishing otherwise. So thanks for helping evidence that, user!
IS that the gun that killed Kaji?
Gun and person. That still is in fact from a deleted scene. Asuka finally got sick of him ignoring her and cucking her with Misato
The only time the gun was shown was in the manga, and there it was a Smith & Wesson Model 640 revolver with a lasersight.
I want to marry Rei
YES
This whole post is so perfect.
Wholesome.
This thread is getting way better.
Why can't we all be friends?
Tell those Asukafags. They're the ones who are always trying to pick on Rei.
>NEEEEEEEEE
On all levels but physical, Asuka is a bossy girl next door from childhood.
>implying Kaworu has no originality
He was in ten minutes in one episode and is one of the favorite Eva characters and spawned an archetype.
It makes me really sad that a bro like Shinji, or a mommy like Misato, or a wonderful person like Rei will never exist. Same for the Asukafriends. I feel your pain.
Why characters in anime need to be so perfect, fuck.
But they're flawed as shit. You picked a poor example of idealized anime characters
Aren't we all?
You're not perfect.
But user said "Why characters in anime need to be so perfect", when Eva characters all have massive issues
They're perfect the way they are for me.
They all can be lovable characters, too.
Flaws that make you want to hold them down and pet them aren't really flaws.
>Shinji still cares for Rei but calls "Ayanami-Chan" does not say much about his feelings for her, since he calls other characters by their names like Asuka and Kaworu and not by his surname as in the case of Rei
But he calls Asuka by her name because she ordered him to do so in the second movie. And Kaworu is another man so it's normal to call him by his name since he considers him his best friend.
One day you will all learn the truth of best girl. Only then will you be at peace.
Not all Reifags. Just a bunch of fags from /c/ who are trying really hard to make us all look psychotic.
Probably bait buuutttt
The whole point is that Rei and Asuka are complex people with their own thoughts and desires - both are individuals just as much as they are puppets controlled by SEELE and NERV.
Rei was an artificial creation - she isn't a human nor is she an Angel. She's both, but she's neither. She's SEELE'S pawn and the opposing player. She was made by SEELE as part of their plan and was instrumental to their goals - everything revolved around her.
>Her EVA represents this, being the first successful model constructed after many failures - she isn't the first SEELE has warped and broken beyond repair, and she isn't the last. Her existence is living proof that SEELE can control a person's entire life if they wanted to. But because Rei is too important, she's still given freedoms - and it's these freedoms that she uses to fight back against her masters. She's their machine - but a prototype will always find some way to break free and fight. Like in any sci fi movie. She's a clone, a sad attempt at recreating Yui, and a girl.
But despite this, she rejects her assigned role. Because she knows something is wrong.
Ever notice that the EVA units all share that in common with their pilots and by extension the souls that pilot them? Rei is a hand made puppet, her Unit is the most agressive and targets Gendo and the others. She is alien and isn't meant to be cooped up in a tin can. Lilith can't be tied down, and Rei won't let it happen.
Shinji is both useless and useful. Incredibly dangerous and as weak as a kitten. Unit 01 can do horrible, horrible things, but can be taken down like everyone else. Yui is no different. The three are worth watching, but aren't. They represent the bare minimum of control SEELE had.
And Asuka was their finished model. The superior EVA unit. Not once into the show or movie does Unit-02 ever go sicko mode. Isn't it suspicious out of the three, her mother's soul was split? That Asuka by chance saw her body?
That Asuka of all people, was allowed to be with her in the same room? And how do we know her mother willingly partook in the experiment? Was she forced? Was she lied to? Was she unaware?
We also know that someone had to pay for college. SEELE, maybe? And what about her CQC teacher? Was he on their payroll too?
Asuka is the superior embodiment of the finished EVA unit.
>Unit 04 is controlled by an Angel.
>Unit 02 is hijacked by Kaworu.
>The Eva series are all of SEELE'S commissioned puppets.
Everything after 01 was a puppet.
>I can watch safely from the sidelines and put all my characterfagging into him
But he's just going to die. Every adaptation has him die. I don't see how that makes him a safe basket to put all your eggs in. Shipping is the worst part of Eva anyway. The fact it's such a huge part of the Rebuilds is just further evidence they're shit.
It's been 24 years, guys. Come on.
It's why I find Shikinami so fascinating. She's everything Asuka wasn't. Someone free.
Remember that she has a puppet - a hand puppet when we see her. She's controlling her life now, and not anyone else. Not SEELE. Just her.
But Rei is trapped before she gets the chance to take her first real steps.
If you're talking about the Rebuilds then yes.
But just because Rei is free and Asuka isn't doesn't diminish either of them.
I thought it was after Ritsuko b/c she looks like her mom. Hikari a best btw.
Normal girl is best girl.
But I'd argue it's Gendo. 0 had a soul in it, most likely Rei's. With Lilith's soul in a flesh copy, it would have realized who was responsible for sticking it inside a tin can and therefore acted accordingly.
But maybe it is the older Akagi. We aren't ever told who exactly is in the EVA. The first Rei? Naoko? Both? We'll never really know.
But I think it's Rei 1 who's inside. It always felt more fitting.
But then again, it might be Naoko. The soul inside needed a bond with the pilot. And Naoko practically raised her.
But who better to bond with than you?
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Post more of Mogudan's Rei
That's projecting a lot onto Rei. Like presuming she'd be madder at being killed than at being trapped in servitude without being able to die. Going back to trying to rip its head off and beating the walls after giving up on the observation window, 00 look like it hates being 00 and everyone that did this to it.
Rei II might be trying to stop her unit from attacking Gendo though or does she have absolutely no control?
But he wasn't. That the intent was there, but Kaworu failed to be that, proves he is a failure.
>canon
>interviews
Kaworufags btfo
It's not the posting of the image that makes it accurate, it's the content.
and no, it does not present Asuka as an individual, something the image highlights and proves.
Yeah, Anno is fucking up Rei to promote Asuka. It's sickening.
Some people think they could have a relationship with Rei, but she doesn't have sexual feelings.
She does, she is simply not expressive.
Rei is best girl.
>tfw Rei would sacrifice herself to protect your smile
>Kaworu was apparently original enough to breed an entire character archetype/clones that still pop up in Anime to this day
So was Rei
Anno is a hack with a tsundere fetish.
You're joking right? Aren't you a Reifag? Kaworu and Shinji openly love each other, Shinji shows open attraction towards him and and a vision of Kaworu is what calms Shinji before instrumentality begins in EoE. I say this as a Misatofag who dislikes most shipping. Ignoring the nature of Shinji/Kaworu this hard is embarrassing.
It's especially ridiculous is you're a Reifag. While the series indicates Rei is interested in/in love with Shinji, the reverse is barely explored at all. He shows more attraction to Kaworu in a single episode than he did for Rei in 23.
Shinji is the cutest. God, I love him so much.
He got it wrong, I think. Kaworu is an intentional ripoff from Asuka Ryo, while Rei is the original one.
Did you reply to the wrong post or something, Kaworufag?
Uh, not him but not really. Kaworu isn't capable of love, and he betrays Shinji in the same episode. Since you know, he's incapable of love.
That said, Kaworu doesn't say he loves him either. He says "koui" which means being treated with respect and care.
kaworu.com
>Just before Kaworu tells Shinji that he loves him, he tells him that he is deserving of "koui." This has been mistakenly heard by many people (including yours truly) as "koi," which is romantic love. However, in Japanese scripts and transcriptions, the word clearly is "koui" (). "Koui" means "good will" or "favor," so basically, in this line, Kaworu is just telling Shinji that he deserves to be treated well.
>Rei II was in no way loyal to Gendo
You're kidding, right? He was the last person she thought of before she died. She kept all of his secrets and followed him unquestioningly.
If you're really unsure whether they're the same person just remember, Rei always said that if she died she could be replaced, not that that if she died she would return. Rewatch episode 23 and how she reacts to Shinji, how she reacts to being in her apartment. Rei III is not the same person. Being reborn, as she is, gives her a different perspective on Gendo and is what allows her to finally see he is using her.
Yeah, you clearly didn't get it. It's not that Rei doesn't care for Gendo, but she was in no way loyal to the point of absolute obedience.
For Rei is loyal to herself first, Gendo and NERV second to begin with. That's why Rei is seen disobeying orders and taking action on her own.
I'm also not unsure, I'm 100% sure they're the same person as this is the official canon concerning NGE, and has been for more than two decades. I don't know where you got your bullshit from, but I doubt you've even seen NGE at this point and you're just reading from some MAL thread.
I mean fuck, how absolutely retarded are you? It's simple. Rei is confused and distraught at having died, she doesn't give Shinji any attention due to that. The kicker which proves me right (as if the rest of the series and following explanations from Ritsuko + EoE + official glossaries didn't), is the scene where Rei crushes the glasses and starts to cry. Now follow along:
1 Before she dies, Rei has never cried before.
2. Rei cries tears as she is about to die.
3. When Rei is resurrected and put back in her apartment, Rei also starts to cry.
4. Rei remarks thus: "Tears? I've never seen them before but I am certain this is not the first time I have cried".
She goes on, but the point is, this is the exact same person. Dying robs her of the physical impression of crying, but the spiritual impression remains.
This is basic fucking Evangelion. I've only seen Kaworufags get this basic bit so wrong as you. Rewatch the entire series with an adult that can explain it to you, please.
Regarding the Mari thing, I think it's possible that's just shit writing. Look at how Asuka reacts to Shinji at the start of 3.0. You'd swear they were great friends, but they just lived together briefly and fought one angel. Asuka taking it so personally, and (based on the phone call with Mari afterwards) still being hung up on Shinji after 14 years makes no sense at all. It could make sense for Soryu but not Shikinami. Mari talks about Shinji like she knows him, but their only interactions were her accidentally sitting on his face and later yelling at him to get in the robot. Kaworu never meets Asuka or Mari, Mari never really meets Rei, Mari barely interacts with Shinji, but in marketing they're all friends who like to hang out together. It's like 3.0 hoped you'd fall for the marketing and forget what actually happened in the other movies.
It reminds me of the new Star Wars movies where they talk in marketing all the time about "the new trio" despite Rey and Poe only meeting at the end of TLJ. Some writers seem to think they can just tell you that everyone's friends and expect you'll believe it.
It's Asukafag pandering. Even though Asuka and Shinji have no real friendship and 14 years has passed, Asuka is written in such a way to be tsundere for Shinji simply because that's Asukafags want.
The entire movie is explained by setting it's premise: what would a bitter, disgusting Rei-hater want?
3.33 is the answer.
>bitching that "the real rei" hasn't shown up in 10 years
>soryu last appeared in eoe, 22 years ago
This guy gets it.
In the Rebuilds, I assume. But yeah. Soryu was a pathetic failure so Anno dropped her. Asuka fans latched onto the new inproved Asuka.
>It could make sense for Soryu but not Shikinami.
That's part of the problem with Rebuild, it seeks to throw away all of your expectations of what Eva is, but when it can't be bothered to build it's own thing it expects you to fill in the gaps relying on NGE. Like you said, if what happened to Shikinami had happened to Soryu it would be more understandable, but Soryu is not Shikinami. Same for other characters, Q is not III.
It tries to redefine characters. to benefit Asuka.
>>soryu last appeared in eoe, 22 years ago
true, but Asukafags didn't care, thay ate up lance using, eyepatch having, cathat having Shikinami like catnip, because All they cared for is the cool image not the actual character. Meanwhile Reifags are up in arms even though if you dressed them the same Q & Rei are indistinguishable from one another.
Don't get me wrong, I fucking hate Kaworu. He reminds me of a gay guy I knew that raped my friend when he was depressed. He comes off as a grade A creep. I also agree that his declaration of love can't be taken seriously, since he doesn't seem to understand what love is. If he'd spent the day with Asuka, Toji, Misato, anyone, he would have ended up telling them he loved them. It's meaningless. He also offer love without expecting anything in return it requiring any growth or development from Shinji. It's the emotional equivalent of masturbation, and the opposite of what Shinji needs.
Regardless of all that though, Shinji still seems to love him. That can't be denied or ignored. You can chalk it up to his mental state at the time, say he was manipulated, or argue that his latent sexuality was realised. You can't handwave it away though.
Even you own quote says that he said koui before he tells him he loves him.
He says both.
Shikinami is basically the butthurt Asukafag version of Asuka that blatantly steals shit from Rei.
Really? Asukafags I've talked to pretty much unanimously prefer Soryu.
Look at what they do not what they say. Just look at their image dump threads, and see which one dominates. At some points, you'd barely see a Soryu.
>make asuka a boring cliche who has no interactions of note with anyone besides shinji, not having any friends to open up to our any crush with kaji
>airbrush out her more human aspects, like irrational outbursts, selfishness and general stupid teenage girl behavior to make her more generic waifubait
>remove her weaknesses like her fear of dolls and inability to communicate with others
>reifags think this is some great improvement that makes it impossible for Rei to compete
This is just irrevocable proof of the shit taste of Reifags. Maybe you think what makes a female character great is unwavering devotion to the MC and a generic personality, but I preferred the version of Asuka they felt like a rounded, flawed person.
Shikinami is a new design so it's obviously going to have a lot of figures, fan art and official pictures. The hat and jacket outfit are aesthetic as fuck, even when worn by a shit character. Asuka ends up in the eyepatch in EoE anyway so it's not a radical departure.
The only people that prefer the rebuilds are Kaworufags, Marifags (if they even exist) and Ramielfags.
Q is newer too and you don't see her as often, because the people that theoretically would be prone to post her don't actually like her so she doesn't get posted as much even if the blacksuit is kind of cool looking. Which goes back to my point, it's all about the cool look with Asukafags. Yeah, put against a wall, yeah, they'll admit Soryu & NGE is superior, but in all honesty they like Shikinami.
asuka would be coke because it's better
/thread
Asuka would be coke because everyone has had it.
Better at corroding your teeth.
I corroded you're moms teeth with my cum
>Q is newer too and you don't see her as often, because the people that theoretically would be prone to post her don't actually like her so she doesn't get posted as much even if the blacksuit is kind of cool looking
Nah, the reason why she doesn't get posted as much is because any attempt to do so causes all the hardcore reifags to crawl out of their hole and shitpost about how they hate her.
Just try posting Rei Q in the /c/ thread and see how that goes.
I Iike her uniform desu desu
>Rei thread
Why do you publish Rei Q?
Rei Q is trash
>Rei I is Rei
>Rei II is Rei
>Rei III is Rei
>Rebuild 1 and 2 Rei is Rei
>Rei Q is not Rei
>canon
And then they ask why is sad to be a kaworufag
Because Rei Q is a whole new league of cute.
I prefer tentatively Rei.
All Rei are cute
This is so wonderful.
I love this.
Rei Q does not have Lilith's soul, does not know read and she is a doll
She is the opposite of Rei Ayanami
I like Kaworu because he makes people mad
also his smug faces make for great reaction images
Based and redpilled
Stay mad, even in death Kaworu's smug cannot be erased
So Karl can manipulate technology. Why didn't he just throw the necklace out of eva 13?
>even in death Kaworu's smug cannot be erased
Who cares?. I think only you
Well, Kaworu descends from Adam (the fruit of life) for that reason he is not very smart
I just think it's amusing how Kaworu lives rent free in so many user's heads. Truly best boy.
Rei is Shinji's mom so Reifags are fucking strange
Asukafags are just kidding themselves, Asuka is a cunt
Misatofags have a based opinion
No other girls are important enough
He is the worst boy. The best boy is Shinji
>Rei is Shinji's mom so Reifags are fucking strange
Rei is not Yui
>Misatofags have a based opinion
t. Misatofag
>Rei is not Yui
She's a clone of her
>t. Misatofag
Ya got me
heh
It's more like people get angry that Q throws away all the character development and charm in part II. This was likely intentional to make us empathize with Shinji more.
No, Shinji is best girl.
That's why they gave him tits in EoE
>She's a clone of her
That's false, Yui does not look like the pic related
I don't remember this but still kinda hot though
Looking for a girl like Rei. Everyone around me is a thot
Life is suffering
Well, all the development in 2.0 was destroyed in 3.0 (especially with Shinji and Rei)
Where is that image from?
It's from EoE, Shinji literally has boobs
Yui didn't spend a decade and a half floating around in an oversized test tube filled with primordial ooze, nor did she have the soul of an eldricht creator-deity stuffed into her mortal vessel. Either of these could cause visual changes despite the shared genes.
It's hard out there man
>blatant sexism
How did they get away with this?
I hate rebuilds so much, they ruined the whole franchise.
If Anno wanted to make Rei seem inhuman and impossible to like, he failed. I've always found her to be strange yet likeable, and her personal growth throughout the series humanizes her further. I really don't get his contempt for Rei and her fans, because it's not their fault that he fucked up what he was going for with her character.
t. Asukafag
I do not remember that
Well, it's very likely that Rei's isolation gave her that pallor but she still has red eyes and blue hair
What does that make Misato?
Indeed, It was all Anno's fault and his bigotry for Asuka and Kaworu
Well, Anno does not like Rei because she was more popular than Asuka (his favorite character)
Dr. Pepper because she's the best
Even so, it's proof that Reifags don't like Q while Asukafags have embraced Shikinami. And Q fags are welcome to have their Q threads, it's just that no one will post on them.
Dr Pepper is Kaji, if you think about it. fucking triple agents.
It's right after Shinji is taken inside of Lilith. He sees all the Reis building something, they all turn to look at him like the tank clones, they all turn into him, then he's overwhelmed by single-frame images from the entire franchise superimposed over each other.
Damn, thought I missed the weekend Eva thread, glad I caught it in time, even though it is a bit waifufag-ish.
Also, Reifags and Asucucks BTFO, we Misato gang up in here.
>Well, it's very likely that Rei's isolation gave her that pallor but she still has red eyes and blue hair
She hasn't just been indoors a lot, she's also been grown from (artificial) inception to be the host of a godlike entity's soul. That might leave some marks.
What is the minute exact?
It is obvious that Lilith influenced Rei, but she has DNA from Lilith?, that would explain that the blue hair and red eyes
Also Rei can fly and deploy an AT field, that's something that a normal human can not do
>Anno does not like Rei because she was more popular than Asuka (his favorite character)
sabotaged the series, because his wife's avatar was not the most popular character, its ironic, how he became more pathetic than the otakus he hated
>that's something that a normal human can not do
But that's not a genetic thing, just a degree of control of AT fields.
Rei I/II/III is the same character. It's a different canon from Rebuild.
Rei Q is utter garbage and not even Rei, and Rebuild 1/2 Rei is like a quarter Rei watered down.
Rei being a clone of Yui? wtf that makes no sense
Well, that's Anno, an asukafag
>But that's not a genetic thing, just a degree of control of AT fields.
She has a superior domain of the AT field because she is basically LIlith for that reason she also can fly
>responds with more waifu wars
don't be a hypocrite
Ayanami Rei!
Cute girl
>Why didn't he just throw the necklace out
Because 3.0 is hot stinky garbage. The only excuses people can use to defend it are "muh themes" and "muh deconstruction" but if your story is completely mangled by your attempt to shove in these deeper meanings, then there's a phrase to describe that: bad writing.
Just having themes or metaphors or allegories or any of that shit does not make a story good. No matter how interesting or well thought out the subtext is, if the text is garbage, the story is garbage. I'm sure some 3.0 defender could talk about how the collar represents "the burden Shinji bears" or his guilt or some shit, but there is no fucking reason for Kaworu to wear it. It's retarded.
That's Yui in her 20s you fucking dolt. Rei is biologically set to be 13 or 14, so of course she doesn't look like that yet. Naoko could tell Rei I was a clone of Yui when she biologically set to be about 4, so it's canonical that appearance-wise she is basically just Yui + blue hair and red eyes. Why do you think Gendo had all the pictures of Yui destroyed?
It's not that different an arc. Pokanami has an active interest in exploring new things introduced by Ikari-kun where in NGE she was more watchful and introspective about it, and I like seeing Rei engaged like that, but it's still that pattern of knowing she's less than a person, briefly forgetting, and realizing again she never could have had a real life. The part still missing from Rebuild is where she gives up on human and looks at what she has available in the other direction, and that may have already happened and just not been detailed yet.
Based and Reipilled!
I'm wondering what will Anno pull in 4.0?, i doubt a good ending.
By subverting and it less than a minute later
>combat is for men, manly me- AHHHH ASUKA, MISATO ,SAAAAAAAVE MEEEEEEEEE
Monster White, because she's for boomers
Based op
Where are all my ayanami Chad's at
on reddit
Underrated
>That's Yui in her 20s you fucking dolt. Rei is biologically set to be 13 or 14, so of course she doesn't look like that yet.
You do not know how Rei will look at 20 nor how Yui used to be at 14
>Why do you think Gendo had all the pictures of Yui destroyed?
He did not want to stick to objects, he just wanted to be with Yui again
Here, bro.
She is a cute. I love Rei.
Today is Sunday
And just like any other day
I love Rei!
That's very good
>You do not know how Rei will look at 20 nor how Yui used to be at 14
Yes, I do. In her 20s (a point she won't reach because she doesn't age like a normal human), Rei would look like . At 14, Yui would've looked like Rei with different hair and eyes. Why? BECAUSE SHE'S CLONED FROM HER. I don't have to justify tiny differences in their appearance between ages, because dialogue in the show, visual cues, supplementary material and the word of the creator already says that she is cloned from her. What's next?
>omg, 4 yo rei i doesn't look identical to rei ii, are they the same person? :/
>teen misato looks different from when she's 28, guess they replaced her with someone else after 2nd impact ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>young brunette ritsuko is different to adult blond ritsuko, guess she's a different person too :P
It never fails to amaze me how desperate Reifags can get. She is cloned from Shinji's mom. She also contains parts of Lilith but a massive part her character's symbolism comes from her being cloned from Yui. You have to ignore so much of the show for this not to be the case. It isn't even an argument. Are you going to argue whether Yui's soul is in Unit-01 too? You going to argue if Kaworu is an angel? Jesus Christ.
I don't even know why I'm bothering to respond. I know nothing will get through your thick skull. I know you will just find some excuse to ignore one of the most impactful and thematically important revelations in the series because it clashes with how you want to view your waifu and throws up a barrier to her being with the character you self-insert as. You are everything I hate about waifufags.
>and realizing again she never could have had a real life.
why do you say that?
>The part still missing from Rebuild is where she gives up on human and looks at what she has available in the other direction, and that may have already happened and just not been detailed yet.
Rei never gave up on humans in NGE
I always took it that Unit-00 had part of Rei I's soul and that Rei II wasn't fully complete without that part. We already now from Unit-02 that an Eva can have just part of a soul. That part is violent towards Gendo and tries to resist him, while Rei II is obedient.
Then both Rei II and Unit-00 are destroyed leaving both parts of the soul without a vessel and they combine again in Rei III. This is also, I assumed, why Rei III can manifest an AT field in episode 24. Having the part of her soul that hated Gendo and wanted to disobey him back is what allowed Rei III to turn against him in EoE.
That's just my interpretation though. Maybe I'm a brainlet and everything I'm saying is contradicted somewhere else.
>why do you say that?
Well, even in the best case scenario where NERV successfully blew the Angels away, that Gendo didn't do any jewish tricks, that the world was safe and everyone was happy, Rei would still
1. Feel alien deep inside, because she is literally an alien trapped in a human body
2. Would still need constant medical support from NERV to not fall apart and stay alive.
I'm not denying that Rei was created with parts of Yui, or that both share similar physical but I'm saying that by definition Rei can not be a clone of Yui because both are not identical and as I said Rei is not an human ordinary (she can fly and generate an AT field)
Something you're ignoring on purpose are Rei's red eyes and blue hair, those characteristics Yui never the had.
What words of Anno?
>but a massive part her character's symbolism comes from her being cloned from Yui.
For example?
I already understand you, but Rei needs constant medical support from NERV to live?
Disgusting., Hatched from an alien, she doesn't even look human.
Rei has a vagina in her forehead
t. asukafag
You can buy girls like Rei online. Google onahole
see
>0
Asuka best
On human, being human, her own fake humanity. Rei's an outsider, she feels no bond to the world except by the work she's made to do. She isolates herself, she's an attractive girl living alone and attending school where everyone has given up even trying to talk to her, people she sees everyday don't even have names if she doesn't know them from work, she's disinterested. Whatever Rei thinks of humanity, she doesn't think it's for her, except during that window Shinji is palling with her and makes her want to try.
Best doll
Most Asukafriends hate Shikinami and think Soryu is a much superior character.
t. Asukafriend
Rei's birthday is coming up anons, what are you planning to do for her?
Well, before Shinji arrived Rei did not care about anyone
Window?, you mean the relationship that she had with Shinji?
Asuka is just best girl. Reifags in denial and having to lie to prop up their fake waifu.
>Rei needs constant medical support from NERV to live?
It's an educated assumption from fans based on the metric shit tons of medical things around her character.
You mean Rei's best before date? Bet she spoils like milk.
>she feels no bond to the world except by the work she's made to do.
she literally says she has a bond with the whole world
For now I haven't something special and you?
>Bet she spoils like milk.
Those are white girls. if anything Rei's like canned goods.
She does kill everyone, if you can call that a bond.
same thing I usually do, start a fan art of her and never finish it.
Explain why Asuka is better than Rei?
>educated guess
Her artificial body starts to literally fall apart in EoE. And in the rebuilds, when they are at the sealife conservation facility, she mentions that she's like the fishes in the tank, that "she cannot survive on the outside".
Yea Forums doesn't have the capacity
Nope, she literally made the dearest wish of every single person on earth come true in their hearts and made them so happy they turned into goo.
Well, I agree with you, we do not know if Rei needs medicine to live
thumbs make it look like she's holding a thin black penis. perfect for her really.
You have not given me any argument
I remember that scene in EoE but my question is why it happened at that moment and not before?
I really don't know why I'm bothering but here goes.
Quoting Anno
>There was this replacement by a robot, so the original mother is the robot, but then there is a mother of the same age, Rei Ayanami, by [Shinji's] side [...] An Oedipus Complex within these multiple structures; that's what I wanted to do
There it is. Rei's there for Oedipal purposes. Happy now? Of course not. For examples of it being mentioned in the narrative, referenced visually or how it's important to the themes, see below. These are all off the top of my head, so they're in no particular order
>her other main genetic donor is a maternal figure to all of mankind
>naoko and ritsuko are threatened by rei because they worry gendo sees her as a replacement for yui
>gendo grows attached to her in spite of himself because she reminds him of yui
>shinji tells her she reminds him of a mother
>instrumentality, which is repeatedly framed as a return to the womb, has all of humanity called to her, with her acting as the mother
>before rei ii self-destructs in ep 23, unit-00's stomach becomes swollen and distended like it's pregnant, another allusion to motherhood and pregnancy
This doesn't invalidate Rei as a character. Just because she is cloned from Yui doesn't mean she IS Yui. Just because she has the soul of Lilith doesn't mean she IS Lilith. Her experiences make her her own person. That's a repeated theme of the show and Rei illustrates it beautifully. Yes, her hair and eyes are different, and she isn't a perfect clone of Yui, but she is a clone of her. She can manifest AT fields because she's also part-Angel, but her human genetic donor is Yui. I feel like you're getting bogged down in splitting hairs and semantics when you rely on these as cop outs from acknowledging the symbolism and purpose of her background.
Doesn't mean they're happy. Could be agony but probably physical nothingness.
I don't see it, must be a freudian thing.
that still is not confirmation that she would actually fall apart in other circumstances. for EoE it could have been just that she was lowering her AT field and that made her to start falling apart (she was as capable of rebuilding her arm once she put up her AT fieald again, hard co consider that a medical related matter). As for rebuild, it's rebuild it doesn't necessarily have any bearing over NGE, but I don't object too much to use it as an example either, but even that, that's just her thinking her life is like that of those fishes, it doesn't mean she's right. I don't know why I'm arguing the point since I also believe Rei would have to depend on heavy medical care. So I guess I'm just saying it's not necessarily a fact.
I think Gendo says it's because her AT field is failing, but I'm not sure. Been a while since I saw it.
Ya, Aoba sure did look thrilled. I'm sure those were screams of happiness we were hearing across the world when the AT fields were dissolving. That said, I can't fully blame Rei for that, since it was Shinji that chose to do it and she tried to talk him out of it. Then again, putting the choice in his hands given his mental state was a pretty poor decision.
She says she pilots Eva because she's bound to it and she has nothing else. Shinji takes it as her saying something admirable, he doesn't know her origins and that she doesn't get a choice.
Rei has a birthday?
a batch number counts
>but I don't object too much to use it as an example either, but even that, that's just her thinking her life is like that of those fishes, it doesn't mean she's right. I don't know why I'm arguing the point since I also believe Rei would have to depend on heavy medical care. So I guess I'm just saying it's not necessarily a fact.
Well if you are willing to consider more Rebuild characterization, remember her dinner with Gendo, where she's fed nothing but pills.
>where she's fed nothing but pills.
But from NGE we know she does eat regular food, no meat, but she does eat food.
Mewtwo barely looks like Mew, has more powerful stats, different abilities and movesets, etc. but it's still a clone of Mew. I think you're deliberately choosing to have a narrow definition of the term to avoid any unfortunate implications to what this would mean for your waifu's relationship with the MC.
>Evangelion can muster a full thread just with some reifag posting Rei's name
24 years man
24 years
That's not true. He also posted a heart
There's this, too, where Rei receives regular injections that keep her alive. None of the continuities have bearing on others, but it's neat that the mangaka got the same impression.
Remember how impressed she was by miso, though. Had she eaten food before?
Eva will never lose its relevance. And newfriends keep getting into it, so there's always new people to talk with
>betrays Shinji
Nigger read the subs in ep 24. Adam and Lilim cannot exist together. Either he dies or humanity dies. He lets Shinji kill him when he could fuck Eva-01 up so Shinji can continue living and possibly find a chance at happiness. He literally dooms himself and his entire race so Shinji might be happy at some point in the future.
>he doesn't understand what love is
He's the only one in the entire show - except for Yui - who actually acts in a manner that could resemble love.
>If he'd spent the day with Asuka, Toji, Mistao or anyone he would have ended up telling them he loved them
Kaworu went to Shinji. He says
>I'm sorry, but you are very ignorant of your own position.
When he first meets him. Seele never ordered him to meet with any of the children, but he specifically finds and hangs out with Shinji throughout episode 24 and specifically wants Shinji to go after him.
>doesn't demand any growth from Shinji
He's the only one who tries to talk through Shinji's problem despite the extremely limited amount of time he had.
>Kaoru: You have something that you want me to hear.
>Shinji: I've experienced many things since I came here. I was at my teacher's before. Silent and calm days.I did nothing but exist. That was fine with me. I had nothing to do.
>Kaoru: You dislike people?
>Shinji: Well, I don't really care. Except for my father, who I hate.
And the red eyed nigger literally dies trying giving a chance for Shinji to develop.
>her other main genetic donor is a maternal figure to all of mankind
That's all you had to say, Rei is based on Yui and Lilith, so she can not be a clone of Yui because she should share only characteristics with her
>instrumentality, which is repeatedly framed as a return to the womb, has all of humanity called to her, with her acting as the mother
You are that guy who constantly said that instrumentality is a return to the womb?
>Just because she has the soul of Lilith does not mean she IS Lilith
In EoE Rei does not become Lilith and accept her divine side?
>and she is not a perfect clone of Yui, but she is a clone of her
You are considering Rei as a clone of Yui when she is not equal to Yui, is not supposed that a clone should be an identical copy of an individual instead of a defective copy?
By Shinji's particular miso. It could be just that Shinji's a decent cook (he does it every day after all) while Rei's used to having stuff from Nerv's cafeteria.
>Eva's forever
Soryu wasn't though...
>In EoE Rei does not become Lilith and accept her divine side?
She is still the Rei that Shinji knows, based on the conversations she has with him after that. She combines the DNA of Lilith and Adam to become an all powerful God-figure who can usher in instrumentality, but she is still Rei. When her ghost lives on throughout time and space, it's not as some giant white thing with a purple face, but as a schoolgirl. As Rei.
Exactly, Rei now transcended, she found her true self with the divinity
This thread was awesome!
Ayanami Rei is forever!
Well, Rei is a fantastic girl, so a Rei thread also is.