Jojo's Bizarre Adventure

Because he wanted it to hit the ground and break to get their attention, which would have been somewhat difficult if it flew away as a bird.

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He's dead

He died and Giorno used his life ability power to give him life

giorno awakened the vampire side of his powers and gave life to bruno the same way dio did to his zombies

wait. is this real?

I really adored how they added a scene where Giorno is gripped by an uncanny sense of fear when he can't resist the urge to turn around to check if he got the team out of dodge too late; that dreadful hope that the creature capable of distorting time and thrashing his leader wouldn't be behind them.

Especially since Diavolo is a man that Giorno believed would be easy to assassinate

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yep, did you think araki would forget about giorno's vampire heritage for the rest of the part?

isn't giorno able to somewhat control his creature? like his snake that killed baby face

pretty cool actually

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he likes fish

It stayed pretty consistent the whole way through. If you didn't like the beginning then you probably wouldn't have liked the rest of it.

second cour then?

No. He is just fucking with you.

My only thing is that I feel like Fugo's departure would benefit the most from some added scenes from DP, since basically no one acknowledges him, and despite his relationship with Narancia he's just muttering autistically and pathetically to himself while everyone else leaves, with no acknowledgement of his decision or any well wishes after everything they've been through together. Just something like:

>"Narancia! Why do you want to go with them all of a sudden?"
>"Because Trish is like me, Fugo! You... both you and Buccellati gave me something to strive for. I want to do the same for her, as you did for me!"

>"And Giorno.. how can you side with Buccellati on this? You're still just a newbie! Why are you getting involved in this in the first place? You could walk away from all of this with your life intact! You don't need to get involved in this..."
>"Maybe you're right, Fugo. But it's something I must do. Because I, Giorno Giovanna, Have A Dream. Buccellati made his decision, and I place my faith in him. In order to achieve my goal as well as his, he has my support. We do understand if you don't want to come, but otherwise we will defeat the boss ourselves."

I don't know, I'm no fucking Araki but I just feel like there should have been more.
I don't have a problem with Fugo leaving, it's how he left that just felt underbaked and clearly haphazard, and I thought DP would do something about that since they went through the effort of giving him an animated backstory and a bunch of extra scenes.

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All it would do is make the cast look even dumber for going through with the betrayal

wouldn't mind a purple haze feedback ova
Fugo was so far my favorite of the crew, so knowing he was going to leave was sad for me

I need to read feedback desu. How long is it?

He did fucking nothing. Why is he your favorite?

He reminds me of myself – intelligent, nihilistic and with a wicked sense of humor.

Just his personality. I like characters that are a little bit of an asshole.
I like Abbacchio too for the same reason.

His body is rotting away. His senses are deterriorating. He will go blind, deaf and die.

th-thanks giorno?

nobody saves your shit, discord nigger

I mean, bruno is already dead. Giorno just prolonged his consciousness a bit longer.

He thought it would be funny to throw a fucking fish.

lol
they are all assholes though

It would have dodged the pillar. He needed it to DIE.

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whom are you samefagging for, discord tranny?

Why didn't he just turn it into an eagle?

What OP asked

Speaking of which is the 39 eps thing true? Wouldn't that practically cover up the whole show?

Happytaph

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>he didn't read the manga
did you enjoy finding this out prematurely?

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the wonderful thing about jojo is that you have no way of knowing which spoilers are real and which are fake, no matter how insane they sound

Why didn't Giorno's dad just freeze Jotaro and shatter him to pieces like he did to Dire?

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Johnathan's body.

He was contractually obligated to only use his stand, knives and the road roller.

If Giorno used his stand to 100% of its capability all the time there would be no suspense

There is no suspense though. He keeps saving everyone. This is worse than Josuke and Shining Diamond.

Araki failed to reminisce

Yeah so far it's worst JoJo. He has his cool moments but overall he resolves everyting too quickly and easly.

>Shining Diamond

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Half of Giorno's team died. Nobody in part 4's main cast died.

>He keeps saving everyone.
Hehe

Remember how polpo died? Imagine if this pin on Diavolo ass wasnt turtle but some remote bomb.

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Giorno has the rare honor of being both the worst Jojo and having the worst and most stupidly written stand in the entire series

You have the rare honor of being the worst, and most stupid person in this thread.

>the worst Jojo
That's Jonathan
> the worst and most stupidly written stand in the entire series
pic

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>Shining Diamond

I forgot to mention that his fans are also the whiniest and worst.

That thing was present for one mediocre fight. Gold Experience was a main character stand and had the most fights in its part, and had multiple dropped abilities, major power inconsistencies, and glaring cases where its powers weren't used when they should have been. They're completely incomparable.
If you're going to whine about minor villain stands being shit then there's plenty of other contenders, 3 is full of them and 7 features some which are just shittier reskins of existing stands.

because if he got that close Star Platinum would just put his fist through him

I don't know, you just kind of sound like a retard

Not one word you just said rung true.

>worst Jojo
Jonathan
>most stupidly written stand in the entire series
Whitesnake or any other number of stands in part 6 and 3

>most stupidly written stand in the entire series
Crazy Diamond exists

Not anymore.
fuck you Araki ;_;

>Damage reflection
>Life shot
These are dropped and are never used again after the beginning.
>Stand-wielding Coco Jumbo clone
Makes no sense with how stands work, stand users rarely inherit the same stands from their relatives. See: The World and Gold Experience's powers being completely different, same with Hermit Purple and Star Platinum, Hermit Purple and Crazy Diamond etc.
>Glaring cases where its powers weren't used when they should have been
See Damage Reflection and Life Shot - they were retconned away, lol.
These are OBJECTIVELY true. Read the manga.

>These are dropped and are never used again after the beginning.
Giorno never had the opportunity to do them again. He never punched another dude until the Cioccolata fight.
>stand users rarely inherit the same stands from their relatives
But they do it, so...
>Read the manga.
Imagine having the audacity of getting facts wrong and then saying that one should read the manga.

Jonathan stood out more than Giorno ever did and was never outshone in his own part. He had a character arc and a great and memorable conclusion.

Giorno faded into the background, had a horribly-written stand, and the conclusion to his part was A) the worst and most convoluted in the series and B) didn't even focus on him.

The only really inconsistent shit was the blood bullets homing in on Kira, and that part where it changed the letters on the lotto ticket. It didn't feature multiple dropped abilities like Gold Experience did.

Yeah, you just sound retarded.

Forgot my pic.

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>objectively
Yup, you really are retarded and not just pretending.

>The only really inconsistent shit was the blood bullets homing in on Kira
Who gives a fuck about that when its stupid ability is purposefully vague so Araki can just have Josuke pull retarded tricks on the fly whenever he needs him too
>uncook food
>reduce pavement back to tar
>can teleport Okuyasu back to him via his arm, but can't pull Kira back via his hand
>etc
its just a stupidly written stand, but part 4 in general is a fucking mess so

Hahaha, oh wow, are you actually a wiki reader who roleplays as a Jojo fan?
Giorno punches multiple other characters and things up to Cioccolata, you retard. The anime even adds extra muda effects so it's more noticeable. And damage-reflection being something Giorno 'never had the opportunity to do again' is even more pathetically laughable - you do realize that if he'd transformed pretty much anything and hid it in his clothes he'd have insta-killed anything which tried to attack him, such as Baby Face, Ghiaccio, Notorious B.I.G etc?
Legitimately read the manga and actually pay attention to the words and the pictures.

How the fuck are they going to show how GER works?

Can you throw this tantrum in a different Jojo thread?

>>Hahaha, oh wow, are you actually a wiki reader who roleplays as a Jojo fan?
Getting oddly specific there, friendo. Not to say that you are a wikifag, jut sayin'.
>Giorno punches multiple other characters and things up to Cioccolata, you retard
You seem to have a general issue with actually naming your scenes, so I am going to say that you are, in fact, the retard here.
>Baby Face, Ghiaccio, Notorious B.I.G etc?
He killed baby face. Ghiaccio's stand was too cold for him to use his ability. B.I.G. was too strong for it.

All of these fall within the 'Restore something to a previous state' definition that the stand was stated to have. The cooked food was previously uncooked. The pavement was previously tar. The hand shit was stupid and Josuke should never have thought that healing a major injury like that was a good idea, but Kira was actively running away and wasn't reduced to electricity at the time.
>4 in general is a fucking mess
Yikes

>t. Feng Shui brainlet

Same way they did in the manga, just like King Crimson
you faggots need to stop lying to me before I get to watch every episode, because nothing is ever different and you had me thinking they did some crazy shit with KC

how did the turtle-into-brooch thing work? how did Giorno turn an animal into an inanimate object? isn't that the complete opposite of his power?

and how did he even heal bucciarati's wounds? it was a big deal with mista and white album that he can't simply heal, he only plughs wounds with new tissue from some other object. what did he even use?

>muh feng shui
Suburban California white single mum spotted.

>All of these fall within the 'Restore something to a previous state' definition that the stand was stated to have
which one? this one? Do you consider a chemical change "destroyed"? He isn't "fixing" anything.

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He put a bit of Coco Jumbo's skin into it and used GE's ability to grow around it.

I mean the best way to do it is from KC perspective. First showing KC attacking GER/Girno and it having no effect what so ever. The Manga showed how GER works. People just eithe meme or dont understand how it completely counters KC.

>how did Giorno turn an animal into an inanimate object?
you have it backwards there, buddy
Giorno turned a brooch into a turtle, he charged the object and then turned it into something living from afar

I specifically just mentioned Baby Face, you retard. He was also close enough to punch Ghiaccio and get a confirmed kill with life shot, but chose not to. And these other things that you're coming up with are absolute babbling nonsense. Damage reflection doesn't mean 'Damage is reflected, but only if it's not cold/not Notorious B.I.G'. Ghiaccio (and Mista) both damaged the plants Giorno created, and he showed no concern that either of them would be hurt by this, or surprise when they weren't. And again - if the ability was still there, why wouldn't he have used it to protect himself and his friends? Why wouldn't he have even tried?

The stand had those abilties written out early on. Araki changed his mind. This happens often. Read the manga.

so they now have 2 stand turtles? it doesn't make sense

I bet you call Kira's stand Deadly Queen and Diavolo's Emperor Crimson

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In the Tonio example, he spelled it out, saying 'I'm going to 'fix' that spaghetti by restoring it to its components'.

>why didn't he use life punch on the immortal stand monsters?!?!?
>how come he can't life punch through White Album?????
is this bait

The entire issue with Big was that it couldn't be hurt. How would damage reflection have worked on that? It has no user to kill.
Ghiaccio he couldn't get close to, how would damage reflection have helped?
Baby Face was an Automatic Stand. Not regular dude Leaky Eye Luka. Damage reflection wouldn't have insta killed him, and life shot would have been pointless.
You're mentally retarded user. Admit it.

>how did Giorno turn an animal into an inanimate object?
Remember how when Giorno gave the brooch to Bruno and how its was moving. simple put he put a "Skin" over the turtle making it look like a brooch. Pin and all.

Gold Experience isn't well-written. The second stand turtle doesn't even need a key to use, so Giorno somehow managed to make a cloned stand-user which was a straight-up improvement of the original.

It doesn't make sense because of the lack of key in the clone, but it makes sense that a clone would have the same stand as the being its cloned from
It doesn't work for different reasons than you're thinking

gio is the best and most handsome jojo cry more

>I specifically just mentioned Baby Face, you retard.
And he killed him with a piranha.
>He was also close enough to punch Ghiaccio and get a confirmed kill with life shot, but chose not to
He couldn't kill Ghiaccio.
>And these other things that you're coming up with are absolute babbling nonsense.
Just because they disprove your speedreading arguments?
> but only if it's not cold/not Notorious B.I.G'. Ghiaccio (and Mista) both damaged the plants Giorno created
Ghiaccio made it too cold, B.I.G. is indestructible.
>The stand had those abilties written out early on. Araki changed his mind. This happens often. Read the manga.

I have read it more times than you do, which is why I actually understand what's happenning instead of getting confused about it and calling people retards when they tell me I am wrong.
It totally is, but it's a good exercise to see who has actually read the manga and who hasn't.

Especially Trish's fish.

Baby Face is a bound stand made of organic material. There were chapters dedicated to showing its creation and how it worked.

Yeah, Araki arbitrarily decides to extend the usage of Crazy Diamond's incredibly specific and stupid ability on the whims of words
>he said the word, so it works!

Yeah, its a monster

I swear to god these 'muh VA is bad!!' faggots are worse than fucking fujos. At least fujos have a reason to like what they like, these dumbasses dont even seem to like jojo in the first place and just spam 'ur retard!!11' in the threads. It doesnt even matter how many arguments you show them because they will always just reply 'u speedreadr!"

>is a bound stand
There you go.

>Baby Face is a bound stand made of organic material.
This should be obvious since its "born" from organic material

wait so he could theoretically create a clone of himself or any other person and it would have the same stand? the implications of this are kinda bullshit if you think about

and it was never really established that clones must have the same stand, so he just randomly tried and it worked

I vehemently believe that the guy saying Giorno is incosistent and the dudes respodning to him are just a lonely guy pulling our collective leg.

You're right, they're all underage and Jojo is a pit-stop shounen for them
they read all this garbage and add the series to their belts like little merit badges, so their opinions are basically worthless when they're just super-power collecting for crack fiction

The stuff about Notorious B.I.G is a hilarious lie.
Trish was shown slowly stabbing it with a spike as it screamed and writhed in agony. This almost killed it, but it survived due to a small portion of it being intact enough to regenerate.
He got close to Ghiaccio at the end of the fight. Even if you're an animeonly, you could not possibly have missed this.
Baby Face is a bound stand, and aside from being able to turn into cubes to avoid attacks has no regenerative/invincible properties. Damage reflection would have caused it as much damage as anything else. Life shot would have made it stop moving long enough to kill.

You're retarded and are making a spectacle of yourself by frantically trying to apply in-universe logic to the simple and meta explanation of Araki writing out abilities that he never used again from that point on.

Its pretty clear Giorno doesn't have enough stand power to create large beings

i'll never understand this webm

>YAEERRRRRUHHHH I TURN BRIK INTO SNEK
anyone else miss Josuke?

I would bother replying, but the facts I have for him would just blow up this entire thread into a shit storm

>wait so he could theoretically create a clone of himself or any other person and it would have the same stand?
I mean to clone a whole human is rather complicated which is why he has been shown to replace items with human body parts, but theoretically if Gir had a lot of time, it would be possible for him to make a whole body. I doubt it would be something along the lines of Baby Face or anything.I think it would just be a husk.

>making a spectacle of yourself
why do these autistic faggots always say this shit? Its an anonymous image board

>YAEERRRRRUHHHH I PUNCH INK
not really

Giorno doesn't even understand his own stand fully, since it's a very independently-minded stand, akin to Echoes from part 4. Though the extent of this isn't fully shown until the end of this part.
Remember his comments about not knowing if his stand was even loyal to him at the start?

>Life shot
>Damage reflection
>Bricksnake vaccine
>Healing bullet
You have no idea how much I miss Josuke

>YAEERRRRRUHHHH I PUT HAND TO BODY
anyone else miss Jotaro?

I love 5 but Giorno is dumb- just wait for Jolyne.

He literally uses it to create trees, including one big enough to ensnare and trap a helicopter in seconds.

Yeah, this is a dumb argument. You're an idiot. And there is no arguing with idiots.

>let me just flood the thread with my opinion, this will prove me correct
Please stop trying to bring attention to yourself on an anonymous piccadillie selling singapourian board.

>just wait for Jolyne.
>Daddy issues the character.
I love 6 but Jolyne is dumb- just wait for Johnny/Gyro

>Jonathan is shit
>Joseph is good
>Jotaro is shit

>Josuke is good
>Giorno is shit
>Jolyne is good

It's a shit sandwich pattern which reverses with the generations. It doesn't seem to apply to SBR because both Giorno and Gappy are good.

>just wait for Johnny/Gyro
>Daddy issues the characters
I love part 6 but Johnny/Gyro are dumb- just wait for Gappy

>missing worst Jojo
lmao no

>shining diamond

ohnononono

>muh identity issues: the characters
I love part 7 but Gappy is just dumb- just wait until Jojo finishes.
Yep, part 8 is the end, sorry.

I remember when everyone hated part 5 and 6, what caused such a radical shift in popularity? Or at least tolerance.

I'm alright with Jonathan but basically

>I can't actually argue with anything you said so I'll just insult you and run
It's okay user, I'd be humiliated if I forgot that Notorious B.I.G took damage, and declared that Giorno simply choosing not to use his initial abilities made more sense than them simply being written out.

I do, but the speed-readers don't
which is a little different than say creating a tiger or human clone

How many fucking powers does Giorno have?

Isn't jojo supposed to be about using your one weird power in the most effective matter?

Giorno makes Madara look balanced

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>just wait for Gappy
>Family issues the character's
I love part 8 but Gappy is dumb- just wait for Jovontrius Joshua, the first black jojo protagonist.

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>I'd be humiliated if I forgot that Notorious B.I.G took damage
Would you? See a therapist

You must not talk to people a lot to confuse dismissal with victory. And that's ok. You have a good day lonely fellow, I'm going to interact with the people in the thread who's brains aren't literally made of shit, here's your last (you).

If Giorno's damage-reflection wasn't retconned, then why did getting the vaccine from the bricksnake not kill Giorno?
Giorno said himself that he can't control the ability, which is why he warned Luka not to hurt the frog.

His power is to "give life".

Thats what he does, he gives life.

The powers of a man who has a dream.

>Isn't jojo supposed to be about using your one weird power in the most effective matter?
I mean his power is just broad, "Giving life" can equate to a lot of possibilities.

The first two got written out and never used again early on, which is good because they were ridiculously overpowered.
Giorno sounds a lot worse on paper than he is in practice. In practice some stuff is annoying (the stand turtle is the worst offender) but aside from a shaky beginning it's not that bad.

Can someone make a playlist with every single musical reference that Jojo has made? Does it exist?

All jojos have daddy issues

>Giorno could make tons of mafia zombie hordes and overtake the world
The true successor to DIO

How are creating new cells and blood "L I F E"

He can also reflect damage and "sense life" in an area or person, which are not part of his powers which are giving life. He has at least 3 powers

>then why did getting the vaccine from the bricksnake not kill Giorno?
It could have, it was a risky 50/50. similar to giving yourself a "cure" for Polio. He got lucky.

Its on youtube. search there.

isnt there, like, hundreds of them? counting stand names, character names, chapter names, etc.?

because he's supposed to be Jesus

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If only it was possible, I suppose he could technically make a drug or a whole new species of animal/plant that could control people.

>not to hurt the frog

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I was hoping more for a megalink. I hate streaming music because no platform has all the songs I want.
Yes the longer the better. Araki has really good taste.

>Ability is purposely vague

Dude are you retarded, outside of Jotaro and Joseph the jojos stands are pretty vague precisely to allow Araki to have them win in different ways. Soft and Wet is one of the best jojo stands and it’s ability is basically “I take things from stuff”.

You must really just enjoy watching Jotaro Ora Ora everything.

Run away and pretend that you won, then. It won't change what's in the manga, such as B.I.G being entirely capable of taking damage, and Giorno simply no longer having access to abilities the author used at the start and then discarded and never touched ever again.

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Newfags having better translations than we did.

There wasn't anything mentioned like that. And that's not even what I mean - the snake should have been unharmed, and Giorno should have ended up with a hole in his body.

Crazy Diamond isn't vague either

>Things go back to what they were

Simple

Is B.I.G one of the most scariest and fear-inducing stand in the series? It's literally death that just gets bigger and bigger.

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Not him but part 3 was great precisely because of this. Part 6 stands became too abstract.

>Hyperdefensive Giornofag declares that he's leaving
>Suddenly all of them go dead silent
Do 'they' just samefag a shitload? It also notably only happens at specific times too.

I shat my pants when Made in Heaven first appeared

Johnathan is neither good nor shit. He is in his own tier, the gentleman tier.

>Is B.I.G one of the most scariest and fear-inducing stand in the series?
I would argue Sheer Heart Attack; if not for his one weakness of being a heat seeking bomb. But ya B.I.G is a huge fucking threat which is why you have to just seal it away or trap it at the bottom of the fucking ocean.

Made In Heaven was pretty terrifying in its competence and ability but it doesn't really look scary to me. The only thing that really stands out is the horsecock, which just looks weird rather than frightening.

Then do him the dignity of spelling his name correctly

Jonathan might be the most "boring" Jojo but I respect him being a goody-two-shoes that still is pretty badass. I just don't really find him interesting in his fights, I think he is Kenshiro-lite.
>it doesn't really look scary to me.
My bad, thought you only meant scary ablity-wise.

>ywn get forcefully fucked by made in heaven and give birth 10 seconds after
Why live

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t. Diavolo being a paranoid shitposter inbetween deaths

What did Araki mean by this?

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Jotaro is far from the best jojo but his autistic personality is endearing. Scenes like him and Koichi walking while Koichi try’s to make conversation are a lot of fun to me.
Also I appreciate a competent character that almost never drops his guard

This. I think its easy to look back on anything and rate but during the time Jonathan created he was in the same vain as Kenshiro from HNK. Obviously he doesnt go out of his way to brutally murder thugs and shit but he has a high sense or morality thats fitting to his time period.

Because DIO didn't have a body full of vampire-juice anymore to do his freezing, zombie-making, or space ripper stingy eyes. He was still in a weakened state physically until he took Joseph's blood. That's why he was cumming his pants after sucking Joseph's blood

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He is fucking insane

Animeonly here: why were the rest of the gang affected by emperor crimson's stand, outside of that building?

Dude, you must be really insane if you think people samefag to that level.
Our translations were shit, but they were enjoyable for all that.

I meant scary-ability wise but appearance is also cool. Imo King crimson and Black sabbath are scariest design-wise.

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Fair enough. Scary ability-wise stands struck me as:
Sethan, the fetus shit was fucking horrific
Killer Queen, the fact that it might even blow your soul up is the icing on the cake
The Grateful Dead, self-explanatory
Green Day, duh
The stand that turned you into trees in Part 6
Tubular Bells, its user must be a fucking serial killer

I like Giorno. I just don't like to argue with retards.

it has infinite range, dont think too hard about it.

>Our translations were shit, but they were enjoyable for all that.
I couldn't read more than 5 chapters of VA because it was just so fucking bland. Like a troll translated them to decrease Jojo's popularity on purpose, at least DUWANG was hilarious.

He outright says he doesn't to Luca, that the creatures have their own will. However, they do seem aligned to him and do things that will help Giorno.

I for one can’t wait till we have a black JoJo in the inner city, can you imagine the final stand battle between him and the crooked police chief? Drug dealers, hard boiled detectives, gangs, crackhead stand users. Ghetto Jojo would be fucking kino

>Tfw too intelligent to be able to debunk canon
I'm sure

So it was only there to further demonstrate his ability? Can't really say I disliked that part, because it helps understanding his ability.

Cells are life and he probably just created cells in the bone marrow to rapidly produce blood

Because removing time within only a limited physical space is too confusing to think about.

>jonathan
>his dad died
>joseph
>his dad died
>jotaro
>where the hell was his dad
>josuke
>muh dad where
>giorno
>where m'dad
>jolyne
>dad??!
holy shit you're right

I thought this was just how BH makes them look but it turns out this is seriously how they are drawn in the setting.

I just said I don't like to argue with retards. Now shoo.

>johnny
>GOD TOOK THE WRONG SON
>gappy
>his two dads died and fused to make him

oh boy you are in for a treat

Jolyne sucks. Her relationship with Jotaro is awfully written and it's hard to get into her motives.

>Ghetto Jojo would be fucking kino
Oddly enough, i would be interested in something like this. Too bad he's used the American setting 3 times? I Think the next level for Araki would be JoJo during a "war" time setting.

Sorry broad should have been a better choice of words. “I take qualities” simple to understand but endless in the possibilities. I wouldn’t want my protagonist to be pigeon holed with a power that doesn’t provide options in a series like this

You now realize Jojo is Araki's outlet for his closeted homosexuality and hidden daddy issues

>Not listing Johnny
Johnny, not memeing, has by far the worst daddy issues out of all of them which are the main reason for the character flaws that he never truly gets over. Jolyne gets some shit for her deal with Jotaro but she got over it by literally the second fight and then focused on saving his life, Josuke makes up with Joseph in the end, Giorno probably barely cared, Jotaro was never shown to care, Joseph didn't really know, and Jonathan made peace with George before he died. Johnny was a wreck before and after.

Jolyne as an awful, awful stand

>ridiculously overpowered
>GER exists

GER is by far the most broken stand in the entire series considering it's literally just negation and saying no to anything. Gio/GER is God, doesn't matter if he's overpowered. He's always been this way and broken, that's his gimmick since he's God's/Dio's son and has tons of Jesus Christ references.

3 was basically “good grief now that I’ve figured out how your stand works I’m gonna punch the shit out of you”

Not that the above scenario isn’t particularly cool, I just enjoyed watching Josukes way of resolving fights more.

They were serviceable at beast, at least they gave you a pretty good idea of what was happening,

Is there a list of all the animals Giorno has created?

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Why not?

Other Shonen do it very well
Hisoka's "stand" is literally bubble gum and he's one of the strongest antagonists in the series

I think it's a lot more fun to give a character a very restrictive ability and see how he does it more than giving a character a very vague ability and seeing him apply it to a bullshit number of scenerio's

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You're not actually convincing anyone that you won anything or that you have even the slightest grasp of the manga you claim to care about when you can't even argue the most basic points or cite anything, and just spam insults.

No, Old Gio with a beard doing Godfather things is more kino.

I want King Crimson to verbally, physically and sexually abuse me

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Take that back cockknocker

Well, yeah, they were readable, just really dull.

>GER is by far the most broken stand in the entire series
That would be Made in Heaven Buddy.

Absolutely retarded opinion. Simple stands without asspulls like it and Sticky Fingers are by far the best.

yay ropes

>TFW I read the manga
>TFW someone says that since I like Giorno, I haven't read it.
You're not actually convincing anyone that you won anything or that you have even the slightest grasp of the manga you claim to care about when you can't even argue the most basic points or cite anything, and just spam insults.

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Jolyne is Joseph, she has the same luck, same dumb plans, same recklessness, same Spider-man swinging powers.

She's just a better written Joseph with facets of the other JoJo's.

Mandom is an interesting stand. Kind of reversing king crimson.

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Diavolo states that KC applies to the entire world. It's probably actually universal-range, because... well, why wouldn't it be?

>Jolyne sucks.
Sure, but I think that's besides the point.

Couldn't GER just negate Made In Heaven?

You know killing Squadra Esecuzioni now seems really stupid

>let's impede the guys who want to kill the boss so that we can kill the boss

Giorno should have just joined Squadra Esecuzioni if that was his original plan in the first place, like.... ?

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CHU

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You could use one

King crimson reminds me of a fish man

Just give me Gay Priest in anime form already.

I want him to raw me like he rawed bruno

Because they knew they'd betray each other in the end. Better to deal with them right then and there than deal with the Boss and be stabbed in the back, which they were both thinking. That and they had no idea what his powers (if any) would even be.

CURAZEE DIAMONDO

Is Bruno the ultimate beta male?

>literally died to protect Trish and she didn't even see it
>kept on inhabiting his zombie body just to protect her further
>gave up on his body just to save her again

...

>and then she gives her virginity to the bad boy Alpha Mista & marries Mista

It's not like La Squadra ever even tried to reason with them, it was murder from the start.

Hahaha, so you're going back to lying? That's just terrific, it's amazing. No-one ever said that and you know it. Again - you can't argue any of your points, and trying to act like an oppressed minority and blatantly lying about what was said won't win you any.

Are you going to shrilly brag about how you won't argue with retards and won't give out any more (yous) now? You already did that, but it'd be funny if you tried it again.

They would cancel each other out, if MIH accelerates time, GER would reduce it to nothings so it turns into a slug fest from there or a battle of secondary abilities. Then we get into Puccci rewiring the whole timeline. I dont think GER can stop that.

THE SHAPE OF CRIMSON

Bucci is the JoJo of VA, not Gio. Bucci is fucking manly as shit considering he goes through all of this and literally zips/wills his soul into his body just to finish the mission. It's not about Trish, it's about a man's word.

Arc would have been better if they teamed up.

This, also Jonathan was more of meant to establish the themes the rest of the JoJos would take. Regardless of their varying personalities and occasionally questionable morals, they all inherit his indominatable will, focus, resolve, and to varying degrees his sense of justice

Fugo was literally cucked by every member of his team. They outright choose a woman over him.

Fugo? More like Fag-o amirite

It's string goddamnit, and bizarrely versatile for all that. It literally set the precedent for all the stands in part 7 & 8

Fugo got the right idea. He ditched that roastie the second he got the chance and never looked back, Bruno put pussy on the pedestal and paid the price.

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Unlike Bruno's gang, they were horrible people who were entirely down with murdering civilians, en-masse in Prosciutto's case. Even if they were willing to talk (and they weren't, they went right for the kill every time except in Little Feet, where they tortured the hero first) Giorno wouldn't have wanted to side with them.

GER is more than just nothing. It's literally nullifying the ability, doesn't matter what it is. He nullifies it. It's him saying "No". That's it, that's GER. GER wins against any stand because of this simple fact that stands do not work against GER, it's just a constant reset before just throwing the person out of time.

How are his actions those of a beta you fucking mongoloid. You watch too many isekai shit.

Best post in all of the JoJo threads active at this moment.

watch part 4

Not Johnny

La Squadra wasn't even doing anything until Trish was introduced, when Giorno already joined Buccellati's gang.

I wish I were a bird

Well someone has to defend Bucci, he's the best part about VA other than KC's dumbass face which I love.

Ever since Jonathan nobly sacrificed himself it has been the curse of the Joestar bloodline for the fathers to be absent. The universe is intelligent, nihilistic, and has a wicked sense of humor

part 7 is a retcon

THIS He could never fuck Trish, she's like a daughter to him, Bucce is a man who must protect the most innocent.

...I like the idea of her marrying Mista tho

Oh now I get it. I think you have me confused with the other guy who "left." I'm just some guy who likes Giorno but doesn't preach about him because it will attract haters.

The one time a father is present, the universe ends. Jotaro should have killed Pucci instead of save Jolyne.

Not to mention Josefumi even had mommy issues and no dad to speak of. At least pt 4 Kira had a good pop

Right i understand GER reduces actions to zero. Its just MiH ability obviously trumps GER since GER doesnt exist in the current time line as far as we know.

>a good pop
ehhh

I’d “preech” Giorno if you know what I mean

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I don't know, the ability to just nullifying is incredibly broken. It basically makes GER Demonbane, he can just do whatever he wants really. MIH is an extremely powerful stand, but even it can be matched with time stop to a minor degree, Jotaro did have a shot at killing Pucci, or at least hitting him. GER has tons of shots at doing it, there is a reason he's not present in SO, like how Jotaro/time stop isn't present in VA, why Jotaro is gimped in DIU.

Again I like a character with broad abilities, Josuke can just revert things to a previous state but that leads to endless applications. I like Hisoka too, I don’t care for convoluted abilities.

But seriously Hisoka has the qualities of both rubber and gum how is he not OP?

Get away from my son.

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It doesn't matter which retard you claim to be assuming there's more than one, because you're still a lying, whining retard. No-one at any point said that liking Giorno means you haven't read the manga.

But tell you what - since that's such a spectacularly stupid thing to say, how about you quote the post where someone said it? It should be easy to find, right?

FugoPepe and BigBrainFugoWojak is the best meme to be forged from this hellhole of threads

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MistaPepe was first a long time before Fugo was.

DIO doesn't want to share

>like how Jotaro/time stop isn't present in VA, why Jotaro is gimped in DIU
No idea, mayeb if i had to guess having Jotaro showing up in VA would throw off the overall feeling of the story. As much as i would like to see KC deal with time stop, i'll leave that up to fan theorist and shit.

FugoPepe and BigBrainFugoWojak demonstrate exactly what the only people who give a shit about Fugo are like

I dunno
Looking at Squadra Esecuzioni they seem like better people overall as human beings than any members of Team Bucciarati

Like

>Buccarti doesn't know what the fuck he's doing, only motivated by revenge and petty feelings. Constantly get's hurt and wins through dumb luck. Barely cares about his men and let's them hurt each other like how Fugo walks around stabbing everyone. Stand can't even touch king crimson
>Nero, Chad guy who is calm and approach's things in a way that doesn't get his feelings involved, even in a loss sets the best course of action, despite that cares a lot about his own men and vows to get revenge even at the cost of his own life, Stand is almost on par with King crimson

And than
Illuso > Abbacchio
Proscituoo > Fugo
Melone > Narancia
Formaggio > Mista
Ghiaccio > Giorno

The only they lost was usually 2 on 1 or bad match-ups

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While true, I'm sure time erasing/lag vs. time stop/out of time was too much of a pain for Araraki. I honestly think that's why GER is the way it is in the first place, KC was too broken with Epitaph and all the shenanigans that happens at the end.

Johnny still possessed a lot of qualities than Jonathan had just subverted. And he had to grow in to them throughout the arc since clearly he was a douche in his pre-cripple life.

He still had a lot of resolve and was a real gentleman to hot pants and Lucy. His sense of justice did allow him to recognize that he might not be walking the righteous path.

Fugo didn't come to join the gang is because he can't swim

This fucking ESLshit good lord
No wonder these threads suck

Are there any good dads at all in this series?

does anyone have a smugFugo and wet narancia being picked up in the boat pic?

>>Buccarti doesn't know what the fuck he's doing, only motivated by revenge and petty feelings. Constantly get's hurt and wins through dumb luck.

You just described Joseph.

He almost raped Hot Pants and barely had anything to do with Lucy

can somebody explain to me why fugo is such a massive disloyal punk ass bitch?
seriously, the angry boy would be sucking cock in the gutter if it wasn't for based Buccerati
man those were your ONLY friends, who would he not join them?

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So next week is the recap episode?

You can join too if you want diodaddy

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Jonathan's dad, Pucci's/WR's dad, and Jotaro (in his own way).

Take the panels from the manga and scroll the still characters around the screen like they do for everything else.

>You're not actually convincing anyone that you won anything or that you have even the slightest grasp of the manga you claim to care about when you can't even argue the most basic points or cite anything, and just spam insults.
What am I supposed to think this means given the fact my only point was "I like Giorno?" Hmm? You are calling me a retard for liking a character. So stupid.

I didn't leave the thread, I just stopped arguing about bullshit and started talking about the translation quality.

I hope Fugo went back to sucking cock in a gutter after this shit
PHFags need not reply

Yes.

That's why I said "left."

>King Crimson and diavolo are intangible/invincible and can't interact with objects or people in erased time
Then how did he blind polnareff with blood or clean up the motel? I get that capturing trish and killing narancia were fated but how do you explain the rest?

Agreed, Which is why i dont hate Gir. He's literally has the best aspects of Jonathan and Dio with his own odd since of humor.

>I can't quote the imaginary post where someone said I wasn't allowed to like Giorno
>So I'll quote some other post that isn't even related to it at all
Pathetic.

The two stands have next to nothing in common.

I know I'm late but why the fuck did they make Giorno pink with blue ladybugs, it looks horrible.

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Because Giorno is horrible

Remember that time Jotaro got owned 3 times in a row by a rat?

Ah, I gotcha.
Technically, Fugo was the only one who wasn't a traitor.

How did Buccarati survive the train fall?

Luck

How did Buccaratti survive king crimson?

Luck

And than he dies

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the comic colors look better in my opinion, I don't know either

Why would you give a shit about the outfit of the worst character?

That was a reply to me. You said that I was didn't read the manga because I liked Giorno and didn't want to argue with you. Backtracking is so pathetic.

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because you'd think for the fucking jojo they'd stop to think 'oh this looks like shit'

Has there been a single strawpoll for Jojo popularity that Giorno hasn't come dead last in? The ones prior to Part 5's updated scanlations unsurprisingly had him last, but people said that the new scans would gain him new fans. They didn't, because the polls afterwards still had Giorno last. It'd be interesting to see if the anime changed anything.

He accidentally touched her tits, he gave Lucy a very nice horseback ride

What a gay thread. I’d rather talk about fucking them boipuccies than this gay shit

This panel is one of my favorites. I hope they don't cut it

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The same reason he gave Jolyne lime green, yellow, blue, pink, etc.

>How did Buccaratti survive king crimson?
>Luck
No, he figured out King Crimson's weakness, which is that he is vulnerable after erasing time because his precognition is limited.

Is there anything that deserves death more than Fujos?

I mean he survived because of prosciutto technically. And he figured out how KC worked which wasnt going to guarantee his survival but still Bruno is a top tier on the spot thinker for a non-Jojo.

he had all the right to follow bucci to the very hell
he's a traitor for not following him

when you vote you don't really do it aiming for a political party, you do it for the person nominated, this has been the idea since Greece

You don't have the slightest bit of shame or self-awareness or even animal intelligence to think that going to the trouble of screencapping a (completely irrelevant) post which says nothing like what you tried to claim won't win your argument when you JUST tried to greentext it, right?

Alright, I'll throw you a bone: What I was talking about there was the retarded claim that Giorno's abilities Life Shot and Damage reflection weren't retconned early on. A guy was writing elaborate fanfiction about why he simply CHOSE not to use the powers ever again, rather than Araki changing his mind.

Do you understand now? Is everything absolutely clear to you? Do you feel better?

>people fell for the bait yet again

delusional shippers in general

footfags.

Who’s more tsun towards their respective Jojo, Abacchio or Rohan?

NO
HE SURVIVED BECAUSE GIORNO HAPPENED TO USE THE FUCKING BROOCH TO TURN INTO A TURTLE AT EXACTLY THE SAME TIME HE WOULD HAVE KILLED TRISH

SO

L U C K

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You'll notice that the people replying are largely VAfags.

>Alright, I'll throw you a bone: What I was talking about there was the retarded claim that Giorno's abilities Life Shot and Damage reflection weren't retconned early on. A guy was writing elaborate fanfiction about why he simply CHOSE not to use the powers ever again, rather than Araki changing his mind.
Thanks for admitting that you thought I was the other guy. That's all you had to say.

Part 5 is my favourite but Giorno is just boring.

>all the guys groping each other
>no one touching Trish
They really are gay.

Man miss me with that bullshit. If the gang didn't sweat it, why are you?
Yes.
Possibly.

While I agree it's mostly luck, they did have some idea that something was going on due to the time erasing, so they at least built a plan that was useful in most cases, otherwise it was luck.
Rohan.

>touch trish
>get shot

Abacchio didnt have a chance to go full dere so he wins?

That was said in this post, here. You should read posts when replying to them, to save yourself some time and to save your dignity.
And it still doesn't explain your fractured mental state where you seem to think that you can decide what a post means - nothing in the post that you went to the trouble of greentexting or screencapping even comes close to implying the babbling nonsense you're crying about. Saying 'You're pathetic for being unable to argue your point and you sound like you didn't even read the manga' does not mean 'If you like Giorno you didn't read the manga', no matter how you try to twist it.

Butts

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I think you should seek help. Your posts are neither coherent nor indicative of someone arguing in good faith. The only one babbling and crying here is you.

They are just fighting each other for her pussy

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It's beyond hilarious that rather than admitting you are blatantly making shit up or even just not replying, you try to accuse other people of 'not arguing in good faith' when you admit that you can't actually post any proof that they've been saying the things that you've claimed.

Go read an hentai if you want that.

DP nerfed Mista's butt tho

You two retards haven't talked about jojo for like 20 minutes and you won't remember that you had this argument in like 2 hours, shut the fuck up

>abba literally hoarding bruno
>fighting for trish
Sure

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I want to lick Buciarati's feet

non-main jojos are always useless

They balanced it with killer thighs

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If that happened then there wouldn’t be enough people to punch in this show about punching people

Crew ranked from most to least gay

Giorno: A filthy, cockhungry slut who molests his teammates at every opportunity and dreams about the men of Naples running a train on him. Carries a shirtless photo of his father in his wallet to masturbate to, fantasizing about sucking the cock that gave him life.
Abbacchio: Totally gay for Buccellati. Masturbates while fisting himself to atone for his sins.
Fugo: Bugchaser who goes to those AIDs parties.
Narancia: Twink bottom, but with enough dignity to be disgusted by stuff like Giorno's public whoring.
Buccellati: Gay, but not a fag.
Mista: Prison gay.

They are friends so it's ok to touch each other

Whoever wrote this deserves to be struck desd.

Go back to discord

Based

He's always had thighs but I love anime Mista's tan too much to complain about his butt desu

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me on the left

I wish Giorno was my capo

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Formaggio voring Narancia

>even his thighs are thicker in the manga
The heck DP. Were they afraid of making him too sexy

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All members of Bruno gang are straight

You can be straight and still be fucked exclusively by men.

If you wear a skirt right?

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>Jonathan stood out more than Giorno ever did and was never outshone in his own part.
>Giorno faded into the background
Probably because part 1 only had 2 memorable characters: Dio and Speedweagon, both of them being remembered more than Jonathan by the fandom.

>Baby Face
A remote stand that's doesn't affects Melone

>Ghiaccio
Suit stand, considering how Ghaccio doesn't gets hurts when someone punches or shoots his suit it would be safe to assume that he shouldn't be affected

>BIG
BIG couldn't get hurt

based

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I overall think he's cuter in the anime desu. Can't say the same for what VA did for other characters, but I'm happy I got the one I was waiting for

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Can Giorno create a dinosaur?

There were multiple panels dedicated to showing B.I.G being badly hurt by Trish and Spice Girl. It was not impervious to damage and was nearly destroyed outright. If it hadn't got into the engine it would have been.

_____ __________

>Shining Diamond.

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It's not like peace was ever on the table, La Squadra seemed pretty adamant about outright killing Bucciarati's crew as soon as possible to get whatever they were after

Giorno is definitely my least favorite jojo, but i must say he can be cute sometimes

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>worst Jojo
Jonathan and Jotaro are worse
Jonathan was bland as fuck in personalitty and use of Hamon.
Jotaro was an autist like Giorno but Giorno is a bit more expressive (most notable now thanks to the anime) and his stand is alot less interesting

Why does every part have some kind of retarded healing shit?
Part 4 got Crazy Diamond
Part 5 got Gold Experience
Part 6 got strings
Part 7 got strings (again)

He can only create real animals

Jonathan was cool though, He's pure virtuoso, A very good archtype and in general someone that one could really look up to, he is good because Dio is good. If dio was a bad character than Johanthan would be a bad character

Jotaro is not great but the fact that he meshes really well with all the other team members is what makes him better than he is

Giorono sucks because he has neither of those things
He doesn't mesh well with the other characters and always feels like the odd man out
He doesn't mesh with the villain because the villain doesn't care about him
He doesn't have a good personality because his personality is "i'm a nice guy" and his stand is garbage because it's literally "whatever the situation needs it to be"

Face it

He's the worst jojo

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This is how king crimon works

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He can create cells, not an animal

He can basically build up any block of cells to create whatever the fuck

Which makes me think they some of the animals aren't weird hybrid humoncali

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I dont know why you all faggots are arguing which jojo is the best or worst, just enjoy the shit and stfu
they all great

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>Jonathan was bland as fuck in personality and use of Hamon
I'm not going to change your mind but i'll point out that Jonathan being a normal stand up guy didnt make him boring. Jonathan out of all the JoJo had the best upbringing. He is the literal base of all JoJo's if not in blood but in personality. The reason why people consider Jonathan boring is because his story is dated and yes his use of Hamon isnt as imaginative as say Joseph. But without a doubt Jonathan was interesting because he was normal. Every Jojo after him had to have some quirk about them to make them "interesting" while Jonathan was just himself. Not super clever but hard working and passionate to do the right thing.

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Maybe put some description, those drawings alone are confusing.

>they all great
No

Johnny > Joseph > Josuke > Jolyne > Jonathan > Jotaro > Giorno

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imgur.com/a/1nGGn2v
Is this all of them?

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Better than part 3's injuries just fucking vanishing. They would be fucking stabbed 100 times and have ceilling fans in their shoulders but they would just disappear in the next frame

anyone got a link to the va anime soundtrack

Jonathan is more nuanced and less bland than people believe him to be. Despite being a one note character compared to future JoJos, his perception of the world as black and white and being idealistic to a fault makes for an interesting flaw, especially when contrasted with Dio.

I'm usually a fan of characters who don't clearly fight for the side of good (love Johnny and Gappy), but Jonathan stole my kokoro. Although Giorno pulls off Jonathan's type of character far better.

It's on nya.

>johnny above all
good taste user

Right? He’s a cute boy

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Part 1 - 3 are the only good ones, they got good guys, bad guys, emotions, good fights and good characters. The other parts are just gay twink pseudo-philosophical wankery about overcoming your destiny and fate and shit and who got the strongest pokemon ghost creature. JoJo is about the Joestar bloodline vs. Vampires and Dio. Nothing more.

Araki's editor wasn't there to help him

based sminem poster
stupid adachi poster

I'll argue this too since Gio is actually an upgraded Jonathan. Based on the fact he has everything that Jonathan has personality/knowledge wise plus he has the Willpower of Dio in a since that Gio dreams big and wants to accomplish those dreams.
>He doesn't mesh well with the other characters and always feels like the odd man out
Gio after earning the respect of the Gang meshes super well with them. They dont look up to Gio like people looked up to Jonathan but they treated him an an equal after they saw his determination. Gio supports the group really well by being the Rock later on.
>He doesn't mesh with the villain because the villain doesn't care about him
Thats not Gio's issue, Diavolo doesnt mesh with anyone because Diavolo as a character is not flushed out, also he's pragmatic as fuck. Unlike all the other villains Diavolo is like this weird mix of Kira and Dio. It doesnt play out well.
>He doesn't have a good personality because his personality is "i'm a nice guy"
This is Jonathan and Gio, they are just nice guys with different motives. If Jonathan picked a life of crime he would act like Gio or at least like Bruno.

>stand is garbage because it's literally "whatever the situation needs it to be"
Blame the writing? Hamon isnt fleshed out to the highest degree.

You forgot this one.

Nah, needs KC sitting on the stairs.

Blono watch out!1!

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based

Are you guys missing the entire instant regeneration aspect of B.I.G or what? It couldn't be killed and it could infect people and stands. If it could be killed they would have killed it instead of dropping it into the ocean.

It was hard to kill, but not impossible:

No, Yo Yo Ma is hard to kill. B.I.G was impossible to kill. A stand can only die if it's user is killed, B.I G didn't have that weakness. It was literally immortal, if it could be killed, they would have killed it. So instead of killing it, they "stopped" it.

If it was literally immortal, explain how it was injured several times?

Could Killer Queen and Cream defeat B.I.G?

Cream could. It could even beat Diavolo and Ultimate Kars.

Is this a joke question? Are you confusing immortality and invulnerability? Because it had one and not the other, iy could be damahed, not destroyed.
No, neither of them could destroy it, it absorbs Stand Energy to reconstitute itself. Even The Hand couldn't erase it from existence.

This is absolutely incorrect. B.I.G was shown taking severe damage and almost dying. It survived because it was able to get into something which moved fast (the engine) and consume it to heal itself.

This isn't right. The stand was SHOWN to crumble away to almost nothing. It was not immortal. It could be injured, and reduced in size. You're also lying about the rest, too - Anubis had no living user, but the stand was said to be able to be destroyed by the sword rusting away. Cheap Trick had no user, but was destroyed by the alleyway stands. GHOSTS have had stands.

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If in doubt, just say tusk will kill it

Should I bother finish golden wind manga? Or wait for the season to be over and them read the rest of jojo

Finish it.
D4C could do it too.

>Jonathan > Jotaro
Looooool

It would be a waste of time, finish it

If in doubt - always read

So if it was almost killed, but didn't die, what does that tell you? If Trish ground it into Hamburger and it survived all of that to reconstitute itself with the energy it received from the engine, that means it wasn't dead genius. What about this is flying over your head.
And Anubis was bound to the sword, it's user was the sword, when the sword rusted away, Anubis died. Cheap Trick did have a user, anyone it attached itself to was it's user, it just wasn't a stand you wanted. Those are bad examples. And what Ghost had a stand? Bruno? He was more of a revenant than a ghost.

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Finish the season or finish tpart 5 manga?

>restrictive ability and see how he does it more than giving a character a very vague ability and seeing him apply it to a bullshit number of scenerio's
This.

almost cried watching Nanancha swim towards the boat

Finish the Manga. And watch the anime as shit comes out.;

It can be damaged because it can be killed, it would just be very difficult.

So who's the best jojo villain?

Jolyne is the inverse of Joseph. She has no luck at all, and kind of a shitty stand so she has to be insanely clever and stupidly reckless to pull off her wins.

It's what I like about her, is that as a fighter, she's probably the best out of the six due to the sheer fact the universe itself loves to shit on her during every possible fight and she still manages to pull ahead until the last Pucci thing

But even Jotaro jobbed to Pucci, so it's not that shameful.

>beat Diavolo
Wouldn't Diavolo just ERASE TIME and dodge everything?

For me, Gay Priest.

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King Crimson can't erase the past, only the future. If somehow Cream managed to touch him, he'd be missing half his face.

I mean Diavolo can't even hit Cream while it's in ball form.

He can’t spam it infinitely.

Jesus fucking Christ. Immortality is not invulnerability, the two do not go hand in hand. You can be invulnerable but not immortal, and immortal but not invulnerable. But think what you want, if in your mind immortality=/=invulnerability, then that's your own lookout.

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Funny Valentine with Kira and Killer queen being a close second

Funny Valentine tbqh

I miss the alien from part4, I dont know what araki was thinking

Valentine because his motivations are arguably the least evil and that makes him interesting to me.

Kira is also up there.

t.amerifats

So he could just activate it and serenely skeddadle when he sees he can't hit him, right?

I mean he can't even see Cream during a time skip unless somehow Ice decides to poke his head out, which doesn't do that often.

>Jesus fucking Christ. Immortality is not invulnerability, the two do not go hand in hand.
They don’t, and BIG has neither.

He comes back as a Vampire in Part 8

I'm Russian

He has one, but not the other shitweasel.
Wasn't Ice dumb as hell though? You'd have to be dumb to lose to a bug brained nitwit like Polnareff.

Lying fuck.

Wait
If Vanilla Ice with Cream vanishes does that mean that nobody could stop him at all if they didn't already know what his stand did?

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No, he has neither.

He lost because he didn't realize he was a Vampire and got hit by Sunlight, which gave Polnareff the chance to do him in.

And as stupid as Polnareff is, his luck for survival is absurd.

Yes, that's why fucking Avdol IMMEDIATELY died and no one knew what the fuck was going on.

All Polnareff and Iggy saw was just one moment he was there, and the next, his fucking arms were on the floor.

They only knew it because Ice had to pop out to see if he got them.

Ya shivu v Rasie e smishnoi valatene mayo lubimaya

Notice how I use english letters to convey my meaning which shows my understanding of the russian language

Polnareff is based.
He didn't deserve any of this part 5 shit.

finally, someone BASED

I forgot that Avdol was instantly punk'd like that. Guess Vanilla would be a pretty good counter for King Crimson then, interesting.

Valentine for sure, racks up a decent kill count and it’s interesting to watch a villain with unselfish motives. Probably the most nuanced in terms of motives and character. Plus it was hype watching him turn buff.

Kira was the most unique for me, just a business man who wants to live a nice quiet life and happens to be a serial killer. Then it’s a tie between Pucci and DIO.

Diego would be much higher on the list but he almost turns in to a protagonist (slightly) when he begins to challenge Valentine. His progression goes from rival -> villain -> anti hero (kinda) -> absolute dick to Wekapipo -> anti hero -> Za Warudo.
God I loved Diego

He's got a very hard power set to beat.

He rolls around as this invisible death ball and the only way they could track it was by having it roll over sand, and if he managed to pop his head out, because you couldn't touch it without being erased.

It's because Dio made him a Vampire at all was one of the two reasons he lost.

Dio making him a vampire is the only reason Slownareff didn't win very quickly. Severed his brain stem remember?

It's his fault for chopping his head off

Za Boringu Diego is not even the barney dino Diego everyone, like me, loves
Fuck Araki for killing him off like that

>a villain with unselfish motives
I wouldn't say he was completely selfishless, since I recollect that the napkin speech was pretty much him going "I want to be the leader because I have an inferiority complex".
Still my 3rd favourite Jojo villain.
>It's because Dio made him a Vampire at all was one of the two reasons he lost.
Well, it was either that, or they wouldn't have fought him at all.
Guess Diavolo beating VI would have to rely on Vanilla's mistakes then.

Dio because he is the call to a classic villain. He's complete nonredeemable., vain, egotistical, and a all around horrible monster of a man. Valentine is not a villain.

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He never got to find his Dad.

What the fuck Araki, at least give the one Dio who decided to fight with the Good guys on SOMETHING some closure.

Valentine is still an egomaniac who is unable to forgive or trust other people.

If he had just not had the gun and been sincere to Johnny about the truce at the end of that fight, he would have had everything he wanted.

Still, he just couldn't do it. He just couldn't genuinely have faith in his fellow man to act in good faith for the better good, which is why he was doing this whole Jesus deflecting misfortune thing in the first place really.

In this particular case yeah, because I have no faith in Araki's narrative skills since he always drops plotpoints, uses asspulls and all that other shit. Knowing this meant to be going somewhere is actually satisfying even if it's a spoiler.

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leave it to a huskie russkie to like a villain that reneges on deals

>Valentine is not a villain.
>tried to rape a 14 year old girl

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I enterpret the napkin speech as him thinking he was most fit to take the lead out of everyone else, whether that’s true or not is debatable

this. respect the fucking King of Kings

Josuke is the worst Jojo. He's inconsistent as fuck. At least the rest of them have well-defined personalities. Josuke is just "guy"

What's wrong with that?

>>I enterpret the napkin speech as him thinking he was most fit to take the lead out of everyone else
That is a pretty selfish thing to say isn't it

Valentine is an anti-villain, I think.

He is a villain with noble intentions but his means of doing things is despicable and do not justify the ends. On a personal level, he is vain, paranoid, a control-freak, and manipulative. Every minion who failed him was a loose end to tie up if they weren't already dead.

>actually taking this post seriously

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Bruno >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Giorno

Giorno is the real Giory Stu. That's why his Redditor lovers call Bruno "Stuno" to project.

Scummy but hes not a villain.

In context of the naplin, he wants to put the nation he's in charge of first, which I suppose is the most pressing matter for any leader.

The prosperity of the country, and to lead the example going forward. America will take the napkin first and the world will follow.

The real question is if Valentine would have voluntarily given up his position and was only in this to ensure the future of America was secure, and not his own power.

Josuke is cute as fuck, and that's an important character trait.

Don't bother trying. The poll will probably go Joseph > Johnny > Josuke > Jotaro > Jolyne > Gappy > Giorno > Jonathan

his hair is ugly

Which is way D4C suit him.

>being a zoomer piece of shit and scolding the best JoJo
kys rn

>The real question is if Valentine would have voluntarily given up his position and was only in this to ensure the future of America was secure, and not his own power.
I would think not, he wanted for HIM to be the one that leads America to greatness.

a bird would have flew away you idiot, he needed it to flop in front of them

It was a very impactful death though

Giorno is typically last because he's too subtle a character for a Jojo protagonist. He has nuance but he kind of feels drowned out by this cast of very colorful characters.

Jonathan is the same to a similar degree but is not really outshone by anyone in Phantom Blood that isn't Dio.

He wouldn't have to give up his position. He'd just have to keep yanking out alt universe Funnies.

His hair is hot, it's just begging to get messed up.

I wonder if he could be functionally immortal by body swapping with a younger version of himself over and over?

There really wasn't anyone of note or interest in Phantom Blood that wasn't Dio.

The best in what? Being a good boy? Sure. Being the best character? Absolutely not.

No because his end goal was protecting his nation. He didn’t want power in the same vein as Diego, he just wanted to have the power to elevate his country.

He’s an egomaniac but not a selfish one. Especially considering how many valentines died for the goal of getting the corpse

But that's just it, when he realizes he's fucked by Johnny during the D4C, he entrusts Diego From Another World to do it for him.

I think Valentine cared more about the idea of someone controlling America's prosperity, and it didn't need to always be him. If it HAD to be him, he wouldn't have entrusted it to anyone else and let the dream die with him because then there was no point.

When he hands over D4C to a new copy does he seem to change his appearance or not? Can't really remember.

Jonathan doesn't have nuance, he's the very definition of boy scout. Which is fine, I like him. But a character like him needs a better writer to work.

the real question is if somebody was indisputably more suited to leading America than him would he have given up his position

All of the Valentines were oddly cool with this.

He entrusted Alt-Universe Diego to kill Johnny, not control anything. He just wanted some payback. And even that almost backfired because Johnny was kicking Alt-Universe Diego's ass up until OH MY CUT OFF LEG.

Didnt he only do that after he tried to pull a final one on Johnny? Like said before, if he didn't do that he could have had anything he wanted.

People seem to forget that the first Valentine we met is dead and all other Valentines are different people. He didn't mind dying at all and being replaced by someone else as long as they had the same goals.

Be quiet user don’t let him hear you

He also struggles with his feelings toward Dio that he doesn't really resolve until he dies, which is interesting.

He doesn't want to hate him, but he can't tolerate his actions, until finally just accepting in their own weird way, this is how they are. He should die hating Dio, but just kind of hugs him close.

I always felt like Valentine lent his conciousness to any Valentine he brought over with D4C. So they all kinda got on board with the plan regardless.

Your wrong, he wouldn’t have told Diego about the corpse location and basically gave him a blueprint on how to take over power

Yeah but Diego also knew where the Corpse was, which he shouldn't have known unless Valentine told him, because the Corpse doesn't exist in any other universe beside the prime one.

This part nearly made me tear up. So WHOLESOME.

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>Not Oh my harem
I'm still mad that women fucked over Johnny even at the end.

he merges his original world consciousness to other valentines, speedreader-kun

He did it to keep it away from Lucy and Stephen. It was tying up loose ends and getting payback, noy protecting the United States by handing over the reins to a lunatic her barely knew.

it's kinda typical shonen manga stuff from the 70s-80s

That Bruno is so cute

:')

He should have trusted Johnny but can you blame him for not? Johnny is the one person with the power to defeat him, he wants the corpse, and has proven time and time again he has the determination and willingness to kill to achieve his goal.

I wonder if he would’ve still tried to kill Johnny if Johnny reversed the spin. I sometime think the gun was just a contingency plan Incase Johnny refused.

look at that beautiful face
Bruno is usually so stoic that watching this expression was heart-melting

He might just edge out Jonathan for me, due simply to how bland Jonathan is.

Jotaro gets a significant boost from his supporting role in part four, for me anyway.

>gets his spine pulverized and his guts turned to jam
>still able to walk and fight for some reason
>gets his torso split in fucking half on top of that
>Doesn´t die instantly and lives long enough to save not only himself but Trish as well
Is there a more ridiculous case of determination in all of Jojo?
Even Dire had an excuse

well he is Jonathan's biological son

I can't blame him for not trusting Johnny, but he should have expected that things would be like this since, ya know, he was a bit of a dick to Johnny.

Pillar Men of course. Punchghosts are ok but can't compare.

But the other Valentines were already aware of his goals in the original world right? They just gained all his memories and an understandment of what must be done.

I could’ve sworn their was a scene where Valentine popped in to another dimension and just kinda was like “hey other valentine I need to borrow something” and the other Valentine kinda responded with “oh yeah how goes the corpse hunt good luck man.

>Merges
He only gains the memories of the previous Valentines. The consciousness is different but it barely matters since all Valentines are dedicated to one goal.

I like the boss so far. Emperor Crimson is so cool. I am curious about Risotto though.

No, he knew Diego had the ambition, power, and intelligence to make America great again. He knew there was no way Diego would alllw America to be less than the best since America being great only benefits Diego

You might wanna leave before you get spoiled.

emperor crimson

Honestly C-Moon is terrifying in just about every way.

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It's just a speedreader calling another person a speedreader episode.
D4C only shares the memories of the previous Valentine. It's just that all of them shares the same Make America Great Again principle that people misinterpret it with Valentine taking over other Valentines.

Valentine is really like trump, is he? both literally "make america great again"

Risotto prepares for a duel with Giorno but Giorno creates a banana pill with golden experience causing Risotto to slip and fall off a cliff

>those inside-out fingers
gives me the creeps man

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Diego was a selfish sociopath who would have pear-shaped everything Funny Valentine fought and died for.

Yes but Valentine actually has the intelligence and tactical acumen to make his dream a reality.

Trump is more like DIO he just wants to make the trump brand strong thus ensuring his own success

how do I get thighs like this

He's more like Butch from Pulp Fiction

Yes but since America being on top of the world means Diegos on top of the world at the bare minimum Diego would’ve ensured America is the leading global super power

>Illuso > anyone
Quit shitposting anytime

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Bruno has the most RESOLVE in the series only matched by Giorno.

Get pounded by your capo everyday

>That scene where Bruno says Giorno always gives him courage
Based lucky boy

Bruno has so much to pick from. What a lucky guy!

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Why doesn't he just hit a bunch of big objects to create an army of dinosaurs or some shit?

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Because dinosaurs are extinct.

if last, Bruno x Trish will happen

Mistrish is canon