Another JoJo ep where a character is fatally wounded and would kill anyone in any good anime but nope...

> Hey, I'm already dead, but come with me so that you'll be dead soon, too!

I mean, it'd be a waste to read shit, it'd be cold by dinnertime...

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I hope they convey it properly.
Zombie Bruno was one of the biggest reasons Part 5 was so good.

Bruno Chaddiarrati lived so we could get the godly fight that is Oasis. Only King Virgins will disagree

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Excuse you? That's EMPEROR Virgin

People will just come to you to say "m-muh animeonlies and secondaries!" but that doesn't take away the fact that this bait-and-switch is trash and overused. This season went too far with the bad writing.

Go back to your idol shows then faggot

He slowly loses all of his senses though

So who is going to tell OP

Can't wait for faggots to defends all the bullshit in part 6

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How does emporer crimson work?

Based speedwatcher retard

>youtube.com/watch?v=fukwRf119b0
New meme coming through.

>emporer crimson
t. animeonly

But Rohan's stand doesn't work like that.
Also, Rohan is weaker and slower than Josuke.

The real crime of this episode was Bruno being able to use his arm after he nearly got bisected. Could've fixed it by having him zip up the wound but I guess they just didn't want to? It's very distracting.

>falling for the worst bait on the site rn

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shit's gay

Literally a retard here.

did you read the manga you dumb buffoon?

I'M SO ANGRY
I'M VERY VERY ANGRY
I'M SO ANGRY
OOOOHHH I'M ANGRY

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I think I've laughed more times today looking at Epitaph than in the last 10 years

これマジ?

So was the voice at the end not Doppio? I just want some Doppio stuff before the time he actually appears. Rewatching it I guess it is more likely to be the other one of that duo.

>Skjermbilde 2019-03-02 kl. 00.22.03.png
Heng deg

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Pretty sure it was Giorno's VA

Haha yeah he totally escaped death man, no death for Bruno no siree

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Speedwatcher general

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It's Tiziano dumbass

Can someone spoil a bit for me?
I understand that Bucciaratti is already dead, and he's pretty much just a reanimated corpse.
Does he properly die after defeating Boss or does he keep on living in that reanimated state?
Please reply with spoiler tags

he dies for good, giorno sees his soul rise to heaven escorted by cherubim

Except he is dead. He's a walking corpse from here on out.

He holds on until the end when super stand fuckery happens and his soul moves on for real.

thanks user. best boy is too good for this world

youre damn right

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It's Doppio and everyone else is in denial

And remember guys, every time there is a character grouped and split between right and left in an op the right side always dies.
I honestly don't know why they wouldn't change it since stardust crusaders because once you know about it you're fucked for every upcoming part.

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post other anime intro to prove ur point

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>escapes death
user I...

Epitaph is comedy gold

I really hope we get an OVA of cheese boy adventures, but seeing as it was not written by Araki I really doubt we will get it.

based

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I don't remember it being this expressive in the manga. It almost looks cute now.

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t. Faggot who watches moeshit

Ive literally never in my life watched moefaggotry and never will. Unless you meant to reply to someone else

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Is Araki afraid of killing characters now or what? He did the same shit for Rohan in Part 4 but all we got was that fat fuck nobody cares about.
That's why Part 3 was so great. Half of the cast was killed and there were consequences for the risks, each episode had your balls pulled. I know Abbachio dies but honestly im going to need one more death so I can trust Araki again after Part 4.

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>Is Araki afraid of killing characters now or what?
lol no

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>he doesn't know

I imagine Bruno's state as a zombie being just like when you realize you're dreaming and you're starting to wake up but you don't want to so you try to force yourself to keep having the dream, but you feel your real eyes twitching and real body starting to move.

This kind of feeling except his soul is leaving hks body.

You have two deaths already. Bruno's body isn't getting better- guy is on borrowed time

>zombie
That's a horrible idea. A shame Part 5 had a strong start too.

Also, I don't count the universe shit as killing in Part 6. Im gonna need some blood and tears.

the best meme to come out of the anime

araki is ok killing main characters, but he doesnt kill the opponents and it triggers me, half of the enemies are not killed, especially in SC

Giorno,Mista and Trish live everyone else dies

Jotaro and Jolyne die onscreen before the universe reset.

>it's a Hugo does absolutely nothing again episode
Weakest character.

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>can't even get a decent counterargument
As expected.

How new are you

He is already dead retard

well if you want a brutal pointless death of a beloved character part 5 is gonna have you covered, fear not

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>escapes death
Yeah, about that...

He's dead but his body is still moving because of his will to live + Giorno's stand PAY ATTENTION

I havn't read the manga, but so far Part 5 feels more like Bruno's story than Giorno.

Considering Giorno is irrelevant outside a few fights that's accurate.

it's not
he has the most fights and killed more people than every other jojo MC

It is. People meme about how Part 3 is really Polnareff's story or how part 7 is really Gyro's story but they are just memes. Part 5, however, is most definitely Bruno's story.

I'd say part 7 being gyros story is as on point as part 5 being brunos.

and Hermes and Abbachio, and Weather Report.

Everyone in the Part 6 crew dies on screen besides Emporio who is the only survior

SEETHING

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It's fair to say it's just as much his story as it is Johnny's but you definitely cannot say that it's more his story than it is Johnny's. It's true that he is portrayed as the hero of the part for most of it, however, the story of Johnny "learning how to walk again (metaphorically)" is really the main story of the part. Or, at the very least, equal to Gyro's story of following his own path and almost every character's story including both protagonists of trying to "find their way home".

Part 7 is both Johnny and Gyro's.

I actually cheered when Abacchio got fucked.

Emperor is better than Sex Pistols

Damn, I'd trade Bucciarati for Pannacotta.

Who the fuck likes Fugo, he deserved to die way more than the others

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Thank god. Araki really knew who to differ screentime to in this part; Bruno and Mista are some of the clear best characters in the series.
The stretch from Beach Boys to King Crimson reveal is peak Jojo.

Why? Abbachio's death is one of the most kino moments in the entire series.

Are you a woman? You sound like the kind of person that was happy when Boromir died because "he was annoying and an asshole".

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So how did king crimson just get sucked into a turtle?

He didn't, he KCed his way out of it.

>animeonlyfags believe this

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WHY AREN'T THEY FIGHTING TOGETHER

Seriously half the battles have a bullshit excuse or no excuse at all to only get like 1-2 characters into fights

If they all fought their enemies would just kill them all. They held back a lot of the times because they needed to know where the rest was to find Trish afterwards.

Yes I don't like the character and was happy he died.
He never redeemed himself. He was never enjoyable. His death wasn't "kino"

Johnny crying and thanking Gyro was kino.

21ST CENTURY

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Why don't they just hire like 30 guys with machineguns to maul them all at once?

Its not a bait when him literally dying there is a fact

What did he have to redeem himself from? He never did anything wrong as far as the gang was concerned.

The one thing he did wrong was take a bribe and get his cop buddy killed. Because he had given up, like he says, he's a rotten person that could never see anything to it's end. He redeems himself in this respect by stepping onto the boat with Bruno. Something that he considers right and just, he sees it to the end at the cost of his own life. How is that not redemption?

Based Chad orangutan is unironically the best fight in JoJo to exist, with Dragons dream being a close second.

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I somewhat agree, johnny has a lot more relevance than bruno, but it definitely felt like the side characters were the focus of both parts over the obligatory jojo.

Question: Has a band ever threatened the Jojo series with a lawsuit or are the retarded name changes done purely out of fear that a band would sue Araki?

Modern anime viewers such as OP don't understand KAKUGO.

The final battle is the whole gang together or what's left of them.

I think it's kind of an underrated final battle, mostly because of GER being a lousy conclusion, but it's pretty neat.

Okay okay he does go through a character arc. he redeems himself and I understand he is a fuck up and not every character needs to be likable.

I just don't like him.

No, and the censorship is fucking stupid anyway

Why would you have the censor the word Echos?

Also King Crimson shared the fucking stand on their Facebook page.

And finally the Beatles album isnt even called The White Album its just called "The Beatles" yet they censor that and then dont even bother to censor "Gently Weeps"

>Abbachio
What?

Johnny wasn't an obligatory Jojo, in my opinion.

The problem Araki ran into with part 3 and 5 specifically is that he felt he had to write the Jojo's a certain way that didn't give them that much room to develop as characters. He has said this specifically about Jotaro when asked about the reasoning as to why Polnareff has so many fights and the most character development of anybody in the part. Because Polnareff wasn't chained to being a Joestar.

Johnny is different though, he has no standard that he has to be held to and I honestly think that he has the most character development and biggest arc of character progression in the entire series without exception (I haven't read part 8).

Sorry, I meant Anasui

fuckmoney was the highlight of part 3 for me
best fights are Beach Boys and Ringo Roadagain though

I guess they meant Anasui

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It's done out of some retarded paranoia, because every band and artist I've seen who's aware they're name dropped in Jojos are pretty fucking happy about it, even if they don't know what the series is.

johnny joestar gets his head crush by a rock in part 8 lol

>Also King Crimson shared the fucking stand on their Facebook page.

And wasn't the reaction to it overwhelmingly positive? It's 100% good advertising to any band in a very unique way.
Executives/lawyers are just retarded.

There was some drama during the original manga serial that caused them to change Stairway to Heaven to Made in Heaven, although I don't remember if Led Zepplin actually threatened to sue.

I think GER was a necessary conclusion
King Crimson is so terrifying that nothing short of it could have stopped him. It's why he's one of the best stands

Part 8 is good. Are you waiting for it to finish?
It really picks up and it's very exciting right now.

It’s literally one of the worst things about part 5 you retard.

Of all the things you could criticize Araki for it's that you think he's scared to kill characters? Lmao, this is the power of animeonlytards

I'm having a hard time thinking as to why it'd be bad. Dude is just on borrowed time.

I would argue Jojo kills more main characters than any other shonen out there.

And they actually stay dead

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The battle is trying to get the arrow, not the confrontation between GER and KC. GER itself, while coming off as an asspull, is meant to represent poetic justice and irony.

King Crimson = ERASES cause, maintains EFFECT
GER = MAINTAINS Cause, ERASES effect

Diavolo's entire character is based around constantly running from and cheating fate. Ultimately his ability to die is erased by GER and he is stuck in a loop of constantly dying but never being able to die. Making him being forced to re-live the fate he was constantly cheating for eternity.

Yeah. Just waiting for it to finish. I hear good things, had it spoiled a bit here and there but that's fine.

when will this little slut appear?

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Narancia, Abbacchio, and Buccellati die. Polnareff dies and his ghost is trapped in the stand turtle.
In Part 6, the villain wins and the entire main cast, including Jotaro, dies. The only one that survives is a boy named Emporio. The universe is reset by the villain's stand ability.

I actually like Johnny a lot as a jojo. It feels like Araki was trying to break away from the idea of what a Joestar and main character of jojo was with Giorno and part 5-8 was the progression of that. most of the jojos post part 4 were either outshone by the side characters or were given so much more personality and character flaws that made them that much more interesting. I also haven't caught up on part 8 but I love how Gappy was being built on.

So, Giorno can just create animals with Stands? That sounds fucking broken, he should have an army of them.

My favorite sequence of any jojo.

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i'm not gay or anything but i'd smash a cute ass twink like doppio desu

>Is Araki afraid of killing characters now or what?
>says this for part 5
fucking wew

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don't forget one of the best poses in the series

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the legal system is incredibly fucking expensive, and all of these bands have a lot more money to spend fucking around with cases that don't go anywhere than the studios do

all it would take is one band finding out their name is in the series and deciding they should sue to see if they can shake some money out of it to cost everyone involved thousands of dollars even if nothing came of it

>escapes death

It's Tiziano.

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how would Tizanio have orders directly from the boss? And why would he have to call Squalo? Being bum buddies they are always around each other it seems.

It isn't. Why would Tiziano give orders to Squalo? Why wouldn't he be playful in the call, when we know how they interact? Why would they censor his name in the credits? It's Doppio, and in two weeks you'll feel stupid.

It would, but araki not only has good taste, but enough luck that all the bands he references are totally cool with the extra attention they get from his work

watch narancia kill two homosexuals in broad daylight soon

~6-7 weeks?

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>Doppio
>Using a real phone
kek

Doesn't he end up killing the villain with the ghost gun that got reference way back in the beginning of the manga?

VOLAVOLAVOLAVOLAVOLAVOLAVOLAVOLAVOLAVOLAVOLAVOLAVOLAVOLAVOLA! VOLARE VIA!

>It's Doppio, and in two weeks you'll feel stupid.
それはこっちのセリフだ

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Bruno was still alive enough to be legit saved by Crazy Diamond, right?

I'm not an EOP. Why did you post that in Japanese? Kind of cringe.

They drastically improved KC's faces. And i thought KC's faces were already unbeatable in the manga.

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It's weird to me because it doesn't seem like the guard squad knows who doppio is

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Is Narancia canonically homophobic?

Not really
He kills him with his brother's stand that could only be obtained through his own original powers before evolving.

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Why are you faggots so edgy? I bet your like those manchildren who want to feel mature watching blood on shit like dragon ball

It worked for Okuyasu

>Why would they censor his name in the credits?
Why would the censor D'arby's name in the credits when he initially appeared as a butler? It's a better descriptor for animeonlies when the character's name isn't formally introduced until a later episode.

Most likely yeah, Crazy Diamon would have completely restored Bruno without the zombie shenanigans.

I'm curious about why bruno doesn't bleed after he got healed
did he turn into vampire?

Getting orders from a phone doesn't mean they recognize him.

Really? I don't like how anthropomorphized it looks in the anime. With lips and shit. It doesn't look nearly as alien.

And Boss+Doppio barely know who Secco is, he's just a weird guy like that.

Because D'Arby being the other D'Arby's brother is a spoiler. Revealing that an episode earlier would be retarded.

CHIN
Looks like he wants to take le dumb

Imagine being such a speedreader you don't think vampires bleed

dude haven't you watched like...the walking dead bro? Dude don't you know if you like...kill underdeveloped characters for no reason it's like...good writing you know dude?

Didn't something happen with Prince that prevented the part 5 game from released outside of Japan?

>why would you type a cliche Japanese media line in Japanese
Where do you think you are

>saw mista and giorno hooking up
>never said anything
he's don't ask don't tell

He's living on pure will-power.

Are you new or something? Yea Forums is very normie, posting nip here is astoundingly pathetic.

he was flustered because he liked what he was seeing

you don't need to kill the bad guy as long as he stops chasing you

Yeah he is pretty based.

How long until Fugo comes back during a climactic moment for a surprise save? During the final boss? Just randomly towards the end?

I actually have no idea.
He's a zombie right now, but he should still bleed, since Giorno filled him with blood.

King Crimson could legit kill Dio, right? How the fuck would he counter that?

Part 5 is canonically homophobic
>Narancia kills two gays
>Cioccolata tortured and killed the gay assassins in the worst way possible
>His stand is called Green Day who have a song that says "Kill all the fags that don't agree"

The universe reset doesn't finish because the villain dies.

Never ever ever.

Other than Zucchero and Sale, every single opponent in part 5 dies.

>In Part 6, the villain wins

Completely wrong.

Cioccolata is gay my dude

>spoiler
What's there to spoil? There's no pretext about it being some great mystery and he introduces himself as D'arby within 2 minutes of his appearance.

Are horses actually that difficult to animate? Like if I ask some people in the anime industry what the hardest things to animate would horses be one of the more common things mentioned? Is DP gonna need slave labor to animate Part 7?

>Trying to start an argument that has led to DIO winning in every thread today
Don't even try it. No one will play with you this time.

Why did he let a guy who took a bullet inside hos brain live.

THIS. Only brainlets think that part 5 is homo when it's literally anti-gay propaganda BASED ARAKI

Cioccolata does pet play with Secco my dude

Araki said Dio would win. I mean how can you erase time when are frozen in time? Also Dio wouldn't die from the wound he gave Bruno. But then again I don't see em fighting each other.

It's not gay if you treat the person like an animal.

Cioccolata also wears thongs with a choker and owns a human pet guy with a huge ass.

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It's something beyond just being his name. Spoilers are spoilers despite being small. Doppio's name doesn't reveal a lot either, but it's less of a spoiler to leave it hidden. Hiding Tiziano's name makes absolutely no sense when they reveal Squalo's at the same time.

He does win momentarily. His time reset does happen and everybody is not the same person no more. All of the events in those 6 parts don't happen.

Ratt could bring KC to a stalemate

>actually liking dragons dream
even the shit prison guard is a better fight

>The universe is reset by the villain's stand ability.

Damn speedreaders.

Fucking excuse me with the turtle broach bullshit?

THIS is a bigger asspull than zombie bruno, can someone give me a better explanation?

strawpoll.com/hxgzx627

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this. he loved secco's thickness but he also got 7 pages of muda.

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Only the straight main characters die. Why Araki?

What do you mean? The only explanation is the one in the show.

>escaped death
Well technically-

Who cares Doppio/KC are memelords.

Based

Wrong wrong wrong.

Speedreaders everyone.

Pucci himself says he wasn't fucking done yet.

It's Doppio d*su. I will deepthroat my cock if it's Tiziano.

So Giorno took cells from the turtle

and "implanted" them into a broach

now the broach is able to turn into a turtle with the same stand ability as coco jumbo or whatever?

You don't even know what his goals were, how can you say that he won? He won because everybody wasn't the same person anymore? His goal was that everybody WOULD be the exact same people. His ultimate goal was that everybody would already know their fate/destiny and thus always be at peace with themselves. He died before it could be achieved and then it didn't happen at all.

The only people who are "different" or were effected were the people who died during the time-skip. If you die during the timeskip you are replaced by someone that is different to you but fulfills the same role. This is why everybody is different at the end, apart from Weather Report. Because Weather Report didn't die during the timeskip. The only thing that really changed about the world is that it exists as if Pucci had never been a part of it and thus certain character's lives have played out differently, such as Weather Report still being alive.

Everybody else is unaffected and all the other parts still happened.

>he thinks Buccelati escaped death

HAHAHA, no really, why do you animeonlys insist on commenting on this series?

>Speedreaders everyone
Explain the ending then where everyone is a different person. Pucci's death meant that the people he offed were still reset and not replaced but the entire universe was still reset.

except it doesn't and he literally cries because emporio is killing him before he gets to finish

That's what they said

IS FUCKING TIZIANO, DELUSIONALS DOPPIOFAGS

Gio can copy stands, that's basically it. GER is ultimately God, his base stand creates life and duplicates things.

Gio is God.

But you watch shit.

He's DEAD you fucking idiot.

>Everybody else is unaffected and all the other parts still happened.
Araki disagrees.

While it doesn't really make any sense, in the end it is completely inconsequential because the boss KCed to completely avoid it anyway.

Why the fuck can zomBruno bleed?

>we're getting green-eyed doppio
Ugly desu

Mr. President is an integrated stand which is tied physically to the user. Giorno uses this to his advantage to make a clone from the brooch plus Coco Jumbo's cells resulting in a clone with the same stand.

Show me.

Its kind like this. Kefka also won. He become a god. Pucci attained his ultimate stand. Killed all of his adversaries save for a midget that later kills him. He partially won. Jews did 9/11.

Friendly reminder that Giorno
>Is Dio's son
>Wants to become a criminal
>is playing god with his powers
>stole from innocent tourists
>got an old man killed and blamed it on Polpo
>Killed Polpo and stole his hard earned fortune
>Killed a newborn baby
>Watched as Mista suffers agonizing pain against Ghiaccio instead of helping immediately
>Helps Mista in the last minute only to take advantage of his vulnerability and molest him
>Makes a man suffer for eternity instead of being just and merciful
>Takes advantage of his allies death for his own gain
>Drinks urine
Why is he the good guy again?

Green eyes are the most beautiful

I really hope he's voiced by Ryusei Nakao. No one else can do him justice.

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zombies were never mentioned in jojo, m8
also giorno is son of vampire
[code]nvm I forgot that vampires bleed[/code]

So you mean to tell me Araki had zombie bruno planned from the beginning? Or did david productions add that bit with the nail in the hand?

Partfags:
>Spam memes and copypastas
>Start shit with other partfags and ruin threads
>Can't even discuss their own favorite part because they're so defensive over it
>Constantly humiliate themselves by revealing that they're speedreaders, wiki-readers, follow Jojo Youtubers etc
>Accuse anyone who disagrees with them of being a rival partfag
>Can only get along with a small percentage of posters, the ones who share their exact opinion

Allpartschads:
>Enjoy and appreciate the series and the individual parts more than partfags
>Can discuss the individual strengths and weaknesses of any part, as well as the series as a whole
>Are more likely to reread parts to get a more informed opinion
>Are able to reevaluate their opinions
>Can and do get along with anyone in the thread who isn't an obnoxious shitposter
>Have varied and diverse tastes based on what they actually like vs falling in line with one particular group to fit in to

>that many people are wrong
I bet it's just fags in denial that Diavolo won't share VAs with Doppio.

He didn't give a fuck about killing them. That was never his goal. All he wanted was his ultimate goal of everybody knowing their destiny, which he failed at completely. There is no "partial victory", he didn't give a fuck about killing the main cast, he just did so because they were preventing him from his actual goal.

the nail bit is in the manga

What did everyone think of part 6's minor villains?

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I honestly can't answer that.

There were... literally multiple zombies in PB and BT. Tarkus and Bruford were zombies. George Joestar II was killed by a zombie.

HOW FUCKING YOUNG DO YOU SMOOTHBRAINED MONGOLOIDS THINK TIZIANO IS AAAAHHH REWATCH THE SCEND

That's obviously a bait thread.

I love Bruno. He's the perfect mix of masculine and feminine.

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More than half into the part isn't "from the beginning". You can literally go check by yourself to see if that was added by the anime, fucking lazy piece of shit.

He had it planned from this arc at least, I don't know about the very beginning.

Gio is God, he's not playing it. He deals out punishment accordingly, we just don't know all the details, he does as he pleases and rules with an iron fist in Italy. Also he's not he's a mcguffin, Bucci is the real hero/JoJo of VA.

Rykiel was the best. Somehow.

Worst in the series. The only good fights in part 6 was the shit at the end and the guy who kept trying to commit suicide. The rest of the fights were either unmemorable to the point I don't remember them or bad.

I liked all of Dio's sons and a handful of the others like Miu Miu and Guess

Everyone, including all the Joestars and such died with the speeding up, and their new "alternate" rewound sides are back where Emporio are.

This post is not Jojo related

This is fucking embarrassing to read. You didn't even get the basics of how the stand works right you fucking speedreader, the only people who are 'not the same person no more' are Jolyne and her crew who were killed AND REPLACED. There was a fucking diagram showing this. Fuck off and go read the manga.

Part 1 had zombies.

Would you rather have a strong as fuck combat/killing stand but virtually useless in your life like King Crimson or a stand that isn't powerful but has a ton of utility like Harvest?

Listening to it a few times I do think the way the voice is talking wouldn't fit Doppio really. The tone of the voice is good but just the way he's talking wouldn't fit imo. If Doppio does share the same voice actor as Diavolo I'm interested in how much that guy can change his voice.

my mommy could kick your boss' ass doppio. best two out of three in caestus battle, blighttown. lets do it

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The wikia has him as tiziano even though it's extremely likely it is not.

His soul had left, so no more than his grandfather.

His entire goal from the beginning was getting rid of them. He had to kill em regardless for killing his bf. Prove me wrong homo!

Harvest is pretty good in a fight too

You are a dumb fuck. Did you even pay the slightest bit of attention when you were speed-reading? Humans are completely unaffected by time being sped up. You are only replaced if you die during the speeding up. Otherwise Emporio would have fucking died and Jolyne saving him wouldn't have even made any sense. Nevermind the fact that it literally tells you this in writing to begin with.

Is this really how Fugo leaves? the dude only had one fight and went out in the worst way possible

How can stands sweat?

The former. It's like having a big dick, it'll be a huge confidence booster even if no one knows about it.

have him show up at the very very end.

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I like them. My favorites are the Dio's sons, Gwess/Mirashon/MiuMiu and Sports Maxx.

I read JoJo before you even knew what it was fag. Part fags are the worst.

Don't reply to bait, based correct rageposter. Save your righteous fury for those more deserving.

sounds like a teen with a stick up his ass, perfect for dop

\Yes.

Kinda sad how Jojo ripped off Hit from DBS.
King Crimson doesn't even seem that strong.

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Yes
BASED

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It all started with Prince, who didn't want them to use Gold Experience in the PS2 game, which would have been released in America otherwise. After that it's just becuase of paranoia that it will happen again.

fuck off

>everyone
Only the people that died. There's nothing in the ending pointing to there being any difference besides some things related to Pucci and the handful of characters he killed. We definitely know that Pucci didn't achieve his goal of getting everyone to know their fates.

I agree with you that the events of part 6 didn't happen though. None of the characters are, or have ever been, in prison, Hermes' sister is possibly still alive, Jolyne has a better relationship with Jotaro, etc. But even if they're different, the Joestar characters aren't dead, just slightly different, and Pucci's ultimate goal was not accomplished. He died like a bitch and more than likely was completely erased from existence.

Pucci literally created the SBRverse

wait, I don't remember anyone called them zombies
I mean the "zombie" term, sure they're zombies but nobody ever used that term

He sounds younger than any member of Bucciarati's team

>AH FUCKING SPEEDREADERS GO READ THE MANGA WRYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
You sound mentally unstable.

Guy shouldn't even be moving after getting his heart chopped, yet he stands up.

You didn't get much out of it if you managed to completely fuck up how one of the MAIN VILLAINS stands works and then used this to incorrectly spoil an animeonly, you bitter old fuck

Wikis are just edited by fans. You should always check their sources, since sometimes angry fans pick a side instead of waiting until any sort of confirmation.

Depends on your definition of "reset", the universe snapped back to the original timeline at the same point where Pucci died. The original timeline but with Pucci dead, the main characters aren't dead because Pucci didn't make it to the point they died.
Irene is Jolyne, Araki uses them interchangeably. They all meet again because they are fated to meet regardless of circumstances.

They literally say the English word "zombie" many times

Part 6's minor antagonists were the second weakest behind Part 3's, imo. When 3's minor antagonists are good, they're really good, but 6's have greater overall consistency in quality (even if that quality is mediocre). Which is a shame, because Part 5 (Risotto, Cioccolatta, Ghiacchio, Scolippi, Pesci & Prosciutto), Part 7 (Diego, Ringo, Axl Ro, Blackmore, Sandman), and Part 8 (Damo, Wu, Yotsuyu, Aisho) are like the minor antagonist all-star game, which makes 6's minor antagonists stick out like a sore thumb.

That being said, I did like some of them. I thought Versace was pretty great. Sports Maxx and Rykiel were good. Ungalo and Gwess were fun.

Araki didn't know how to make his stand work.

By everyone I obviously mean the main cast which died yes.

No he didn't. 7 and 8 are completely different worlds to the one Pucci created and cycled through.

That's why they are called SOtists.

>stand that isn't powerful
>Harvest
You're kidding, right?

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They literally call them zombies.

You're the one who sounds hysterical.

Yes. Have you seen Doppio or read the manga to see how he's presented?

>headcanon

He made Rohan's stand work.

Don't reply to bait

They're ok, with DIO's shitty sons being the best. I can remember them all except for Lang Rangler.

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Not very memorable desu

They "died" in the sense that they're slightly different. Araki even said in an interview he considers Jolyne and Irene to be the same person. The bigger question is why do Jolyne and Annasui have different names in at the end.

He was meant to be the traitor they kill off but he pussed out and just wrote him off. He had plenty of counters himself.
lol

No. He has said that he wrote Fugo out because Fugo was going to be a spy for the boss but he didn't want to hurt Bruno in such a way, so he wrote him out instead. He was ultimately going to be killed by Giorno. He also said it's one of his biggest regrets when it comes to writing JoJo. Not necissarily pulling the trigger on the betrayal, but just the way he handled Fugo.

>tfw new OP next week
youtube.com/watch?v=bhKfWrab9eI

>The bigger question is why do Jolyne and Annasui have different names in at the end.
It's because the fate of the world was altered when Pucci died during MiH

damn
jotaro

>DIO's shitty sons
They are better characters than Giorno

Part 7 had overwhelmingly forgettable minor villains and the characters you listed are often not minor, like Diego and Sandman.

Boom Boom family, Oyecomova, fucking Pork Pie Hat Kid, Mike O, the Eleven Men, D-I-S-C-O, no-one remembers shit about them. Magenta, Blackmore and Ringo are cool but that's about it.

SOtist pls.

Been reading through Part 5, and I somewhat confused: who's the original personality between Doppio or Diavolo? Or is it a case of the two starting out as one personality until splitting off later in life?

Good, Made in Heaven is a better name and a better song.

>arguing with DIOfags
It's pointless. They'll believe that a 17-year old who can move 2 seconds in stopped time is more of a threat than a 30-something schizoid man who can erase time stops entirely.

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They all fucking die except Giorno and Mista

There, I saved you from watching the rest of this shit.

Giorno is immune to PH's virus, Mista and Narancia can just shoot Fugo in the dick, Bruno is smart so he'll find a way... Only Abbacchio would lose against Fugo

Why is Giorno even DIO's son? It doesn't add anything to the story and has very little effect on it.

>tfw more than a month until metallica
DP pls gib rice boy filler

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Why is he wearing a thong?

based 7antagonisthater

They are all mentally unstable people with broken stands that lose to a woman. So no.

user pls dont start that discussion

is Diavolo. Doppio being the original personality is a meme

Nope. The weird looking Jolyne and Jotaro in the interrogation room are the replacements.
In contrast Irene and the others are identical to the originals, and Araki even refers to Irene as Jolyne.

The name change is symbolic that the family is free of the DIO/Joestar conflict because Pucci is dead.

Are you on drugs?

He needed to be a Joestar somehow

Joseph leaving lovechilds all around the planet would be hilarious

sneed

Something like King Crimson would be amazing, even if I can't apply it very often.

When Diavolo was younger, he was cowardly and clumsy.

Because otherwise Giorno would not be a part of the Joestar bloodline and Araki wouldn't have an excuse to make him a main character.

It makes him a Joestar, thats it.

Isn't Irene a tribute to one of Araki's original female characters before JoJo?

It helps that Araki admits to feeling proud about Jolyne's creation, and how he's come a long way from writing more stereotypical female characters like the original where he wished he could have rewritten her.

You posted the best one.

Truth. Allpartschads are based

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Jolyne is easy to explain: with Pucci gone, she's not fated to fight so she's not a Jojo. Anasui/Anakiss seems random but I guess it's to show he lived a different life too (not going to prison).

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Yeah he's a kid. I too think the voice in the phone is Doppio.

Okay so my guess was right, thank you anons.

Whitesnake. Power, range and versatility, and you can talk to him. He can also carry a gun.

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It explains why Giorno is a gay magnet and cunt. That's about it, it's just there to add to his character not the overall story.

What went wrong?

I'm not the stupid faggot, I'm talking about how the only characters that are changed in any way are the ones who were killed by Pucci. Bee-Jolyne and Jotworo are not the same as the ones Emporio meets at the end. Irene and the others are genetically the same as the originals but their history and memories are different, they wouldn't have changed at all if they hadn't been killed though.

The latter thing isn't right though, the name-change is a reference to Gorgeous Irene. There's no actual in-universe importance based on the nickname 'Jojo'.

Harvest is pretty powerful and King Crimson could be useful in some situations

>Before betrayal
Happy gang
>After betrayal
They are sad

Bruno ruined everything

Fugo betrayed his team.

>Diavolo is the original personality who created Doppio for gangster business
>Doppio is the original personality who created Diavolo from stress
>they're twins fused in development
>King Crimson is a sentient stand possessing Doppio
Pick your favorite.

Based and fujopilled

They biggest loss from Fugo leaving is that there won't be anymore shenanigans from these three.

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It's literally a pun.
Irene Annakiss > I lean and I kiss

Here's a coin, fatty. Go buy yourself a chocolate bar.

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I wouldn't say identical, Irene still has a very different life and memories compared to our Jolyne. The weird Jolyne and Jotaro were more like stand-ins created to fulfill fate but when Made in Heaven was stopped before completing its round the universe got fucked up and fate changed with true dopplegangers being created with different fates

Restream

twitch.tv/moshF

Go read the light novel for more fugo

You mean Bruno betrayed his team by putting them in immediate danger for muh feelies.

Seethe

>he's a kid
Incorrect

This. It's just something Araki did for symbolism to signify that the "JoJo" story is finished.

Magenta, Blackmore, Ringo, Wekapipo, Tattoo Assassin. That's already 5 more memorable minor antagonists than Part 6.

Heavy Weather was kicking his shit in until Jolyne distracted it though.

>2020/21
>We are in SO
>CR translates "Tengoku" as "Paradise"

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It's hilarious to imagine that weird Jotaro killing DIO

>by the end of the part only Mista will be left dancing
If we make it, we can all sit back and laugh...

*read pic related for more Fugo

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>hey guys you wanna die because of this girl we just met or do you want to stay alive
Tough choice.

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Apparently it's supposed to be a "what if Dio was a good guy" type of thing

Who the fuck is 'Tattoo Assassin'?
And Wekapipo is one of the most forgettable characters in the series given his role. He's presented as a major antagonist and the first rival spin-user and then changes allegiances, but accomplishes shitall in either of these roles and then dies anticlimactically before being completely forgotten.

Alright then, geniuses, how about all the millions of people who were killed during the collateral damage of Made in Heaven? Do they get replaced too?

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I miss Josuke.

based wekapipohater

Who cares? Literal NPCs.

Still an ass then

Eleven men i guess

He didn't force them.
He let them decide and most of them, like decent human beings, decided to go along with him.

the opposite, really. they stayed in the boat while Bruno made the drop.
Ringo, Wekapipo and Sandman are great fights

They should but they're not relevant to the story so it's not shown

I don't see anyone dying in your image.

Injuries in Jojo convince me that its characters are just skin suits filled with blood.

Probably

Part 6 minor villains are very eh outside of maybe one of Dios sons but it makes up with goat main villain.
Part 7 actually falls into that same situation

You have to go back

He's essentially a "what if somebody gave a fuck about Dio before it was too late". People often see him as "Oh, it's like a mix of a jojo and Dio" but it's VERY specifically a mix of Jonathan and Dio. Jonathan is the gold standard of what a Joestar is supposed to be, Giorno is the closest comparison to Jonathan of any Joestar.

The story was never meant to be about his relation to Dio, although Diavolo is very intentionally made similar to Dio. He is Giorno's ultimate obstacle.

Josuke/Gio/50 y/o Joseph/Gappy/Johnny/Diego would have beaten the shit outta Pucci before horse stand. Prove me wrong.

>Giorno is the closest comparison to Jonathan of any Joestar.
how the fuck

If you die during the time speed you are replaced by a new but slightly different person in the new world.

If you are alive you just get dropped into the new world.

So Josuke, Giorno, Rohan, Joseph, and everyone else are all alive and fine.

Bruno is a nigger. If Diavolo had people surrounding the church his team would be instantly ded without knowing what happened.

>cellular manipulation stand manipulates cells like snek vaccine
>stands can be inherited
>animals stands like the ratts in part 4 can be duplicated
put that all together and you got clone coco jumbo with a stand. also the key is not necessary for the ability since it was a learned mechanism. pic related.

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There's more pages in the actual chapter

Biologically, he's right.

>animeonlies thinking fugo will come back

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t. Woman.

His soul was evaporating after Giorno got there. I'm not sure about that.

Yes.

Pucci's real power is survival and slipping away. He gets away with as much as Valentine without having D4C.

Based Jojo wiki

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How do I know Josuke didn't get hit by a bus during the time speed

>PHFtards spreading misinformation to animeonlies

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>Giorno, the son of God (DIO) defeats the Devil (Diavolo)

What did Araki mean by this?

Paradise

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This ponce faggot is literally my favourite Jojo character, and what happened to him is a tragedy.

Surely not. Calling it "Heaven" feels essential to the concept.

Yes. It LITERALLY says this. If you die during MiH you are replaced with a different but similar version of yourself who fulfills the same role as you would have, had you not died.

damn, didn't know Tiziano sounded like a 14 year old

>Apparently it's supposed to be a "what if Dio was a good guy" type of thing
He barely acts like Dio enough for it to work.

Technically they were the same thing originally but Diavolo compartmentalized some of his aspects which he later used to develop Doppio as his split personality. Doppio was a deliberate creation by Diavolo (basically a tulpa taken really far) but he also partially existed as part of Diavolo since ever

I only trust Araki

So Buccarati just willed himself more time or did KC erase the attempt to heal him?
Or is it that, since he appears to be healed, Giorno never gave him the parts he needed to survive, and simply died right there?

I don't know whether it's meant to be that, or the black guy with the Tubular Bells stand. Either way they're both shit, though the fights themselves were good.

Does wanting Bruno to fuck me make me a necrophiliac?

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You're a capo and this little shit busts into your office and starts barking orders. What do you do?

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>"Don't worry, guys, we're probably going to see Fugo in an adaptation of his novel"
i hate them desu

He zipped his soul back to his corpse for as long as the corpse doesn't rot entirely.

This is a meme argument that has been around since the crabstick scans because it's hard to see how Gio walks and talks like Dio after all the subbing.

>Jonathan is the gold standard of what a Joestar is supposed to be
Araki doesn't even give a shit about Jonathan

Giorno was too late, Bruno willed himself alive

Only because he was going against Jolyne so he got lucky there.

sex him

Diddle him

Put scissors in his ass

Suck his cock

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Uhhh, Tiziano is, like, really cute and stuff so he's going to sound like a tween. Trust me.

Based

fuck him

He's very pure-hearted and kind, he believes in himself and in other people. He's level headed and reserved. Who is closer in personality to Jonathan than Giorno? Joseph and Josuke were extremely hot-headed, Joseph didn't get along well with others in general. Joseph and Jotaro were also delinquents, Jotaro going as far as constantly calling his mother a grating bitch as well as being quick to anger. Jolyne is really an extension of Jotaro.

Giorno is by far the most similar to Jonathan of any Joestar.

>they were the same thing originally but Diavolo compartmentalized some of his aspects which he later used to develop Doppio as his split personality.
Yeah I figured as much, thanks for the info user.

He made it out of Heavy Weather

Seriously, they're a special brand of delusional.

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Rohan had his shit animated and David did a bunch of anime only shit already so you never know.

Beat him until Diavolo comes out so I can get the real goods

the voice on the phone is clearly Doppio, I cannot imagine Tizziano with such a young, high pitched voice

The rohan one shots were written by Araki himself though.

Half and half. Giornos actual power is to inject life but it doesnt give a soul so it cant be actually used to revive people. Bruno hadnt passed yet, his soul was literally there so when Giorno healed and revitalized the body Bruno's spirit simply had to go into the body again. Then again its just a revitalization, the body is biologically dead

Which is ironic because she's a lot like Joseph in their reckless luck skills.

Translate pls

Only because of Jolyne distracting his brother. So I'm still right.

I honestly hate all those people who make it their sole purpose in life to coach anime onlies on how to think about jojo instead of just letting them form their own thoughts and opinions

>Unable to understand sacrifice and brotherhood
>Cannot comprehend why people would risk their lives for a cause greater than themselves

Was Fugo secretly a woman?

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Now I hope it's Doppio so they have to change it. Fucking impatient fucks.

Almost every single time Pucci got away was because of Jotaro.
>Jotaro loses his discs to Pucci early on
>Pucci uses Jotaro's discs to make Jolyne prioritize saving them
>Jotaro throws Pucci directly into the exact spot he needed to be to achieve Made In Heaven early
>Jotaro prioritizes saving Jolyne instead of taking a shot at Pucci and fails at both, dying and getting everyone else killed
The only time Pucci survived without Jotaro's assistance was when Vercace crashed the car into him at the end of the Heavy Weather fight.

Database!
Database!

I'm sweeping the Database!
Database!.

>He's very pure-hearted and kind
He is a thief and murderer

Women can't do anything right and must have daddy issues - Araki

Jojo is shit!

Okay, that makes sense.
So he's a Zombie, but previous zombies were made by vampires and pillar men. He's just forced into living in that regard and shares none of the characteristics, right?

tell him to fuck my ass

>a cause greater than themselves
What fucking cause would that be? They aren't saving the world here.

Jotaro was cucked heavily because of Jolyne being the mc and the villain does everything he needs to because of it.
I'm still not wrong.

Jolyne's like a better written Joseph in that although she's characterized by being brash and wild, her victories aren't asspulls and failure is always possible.

He has a 150+ IQ.
He's too smart for petty ideals such as sacrifice and brotherhood

Fugo and Pesci are playing Mario Kart and Pesci is probably winning. Illuso is like, "Don't you have an IQ of 152?" and Fugo responds by saying IQ has nothing to do with MK.

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Don't reply to /r9k/

He's on borrowed time too

koichi literally says he inherited the joestar will, but even then there's still a splash of DIO
>muda
>ambitious
>manipulating shit behind the scenes
>goes straight for the kill unlike other joestars that just beat you up

To make things a bit clearer. Doppio exists to the point of legitimately being a seperate soul. The Boss has two souls. It goes further than just having created a personality for convenience.

I think you should read the manga.

>posting an immortal wizard demigod who used mortals as pawns to accomplish the task given to him by actual gods

Okay, let's see
>Fugo isn't as popular as Rohan
>PHF isn't canon
>That fanfic isn't even good
>A novel is difficult to animated
>Fugo's backstory in the anime and the events totally contradict the novel

D E L U S I O N A L S

I'm pretty sure the traitors are the ones who don't understand brotherhood

Supernatural entities exist in JoJo. Stands are literal punching ghosts. There are different types of zombies. We also have aliens and homosexuals.

Yes, I'd think it'd make more sense to simply say that Bruno possessed his revitalized corpse. The man is still Bruno but his body is on borrowed time.

It's more like the opposite, he is Dio's self actualization held in check by the Joestar blood.

Part 5 is just the worst part. Anyone saying otherwise is needy for attention or retarded beyond cure.

Koichi literally knew the guy for like 15 minutes

Fugo will appear in the extended epilogue sucking Giorno's dick so he can be allowed back into the gang

>Stands are literal punching ghosts.
Well, no, since ghosts also exist in Jojo and they are different from what stands are

You need to go back

I agree, it's why I like SO so much myself. I always see people compare her to Jotaro, for obvious reasons, but really she's more like the old bastard we all knew and loved.

>but even then there's still a splash of DIO
Literally the only thing he inherited from DIO was Muda
Everything else is just headcanon.

Oh dude I'm just saying I don't like fugo or anything.

What a shit writing,
>But but he dies anyway
No wonder Mob is the best anime in this season.

>so he can be allowed back into the gang
Fugo never left the gang. I swear it's like you people don't even watch this series.

He's a robin hood kind of thief and he only murders people who are completely deserving of being murdered. Those aspects of his character come from also being related to Dio.

Based Mobchad

Greatly diminishing the drug trade in Italy.

I feel that Jolyne's relationship with her allies are better as well. The Caesar broship and Lisa Lisa twist felt forced.

He didn't really escape death, as it is now Bruno IS dead, All Giorno did by healing him was create a meat puppet for Bruno's ghost to yank around until it runs out of energy in, timeline wise, a couple days at most.

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Stands can be exorcised by punching them, but how do I exorcise homosexuals?

Why do you part fags are always telling people what to do?

You must be an animeonly for Mob if you think characters dying is better at all in it. I love Mob, but ONE can't kill his characters. No one dies in it, every "death" is a fake out.

>wanting to be a mob boss at 15 isn't ambitious

Oh yeah, because Diavolo was all about brotherhood.

By punching them to death or shooting them to death like Narancia does.

Please improve your grammar.

>part 6 will have Jolyne, Jotaro and the rest of the gang except Emporio on the right side
kek

epitaph looks like someone showed a broom up his ass

She strikes me as having a lot of traits from previous Joestars really.
>Jonathan's sacrifice
>Joseph's personality
>Jotaro's hardassery
>Josuke's love for his friends
>Giorno's ambition
Johnny and Gappy stand out too in their otherness, with Johnny having almost nothing in common with previous Jojos, and Gappy initially having a blank slate personality which developed in response to his experiences.

He was a split personality created for convenience but it developed into a full person over time.
Diavolo didnt have two souls since always, the split was deliberate but it was actually fully made of part of Diavolo but then it grew on its own to become something separate. Doppio is his own person completely but that doesnt mean his creation wasnt a crudely practical action to serve a purpouse

you get to know a guy pretty well by how they act in life or death situations.

So they're basically punch ghosts too then

Was Diavolo a woman?

Not that user, but considering that he doesn't show up again in the manga, I can imagine the most likely scenario being that he probably just deserted after the betrayal.

Like really, where's he got to go now? Polpo's dead, Pericolo is dead, if he went to some random other capo in the area and tells them what happened there's not really anyone who can corroborate his story, and Diavolo himself definitely wouldn't trust him in the gang anymore, even if Fugo refused to betray him.

He looks black now.

He's trying to push out a tough shit

Considering he is the absolute epitome and gross exaggeration of being self-centered I would most definitely say yes.

Josuke, DIU Jotaro, Jolyne, Johnny and Gappy are the only Jojos who have good chemistry with their allies. Giorno seemed like a stranger to his.

Has a stand ever looked this distressed before?
The poor guy looks like he's getting raped

This episode was way more emotional for me than when I read it. Fuck, just when they were talking about joining Bucciarati was a gut punch for some reason.

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And? He saw Giorno risk his own safety in order to protect Koichi, saw his anger/sadness about the innocent old man dying, and saw him fight with the same tenacity as Jotaro/Josuke have against their enemies.

Speak English too

Fugo is scared of whatever might be left waiting for them even though he only fought ONCE against somebody. Fugo a pussy ass nigga.

Yeah it seems that way, I'd say Jolyne is more hardboiled Joseph overall however. It's really interesting, most people I meet just say she's like Jotaro for obvious reasons, but it feels like they never paid much attention to her actual character.

Yeah, that's what I was trying to imply. He wasn't born with two souls. Just that the Doppio personality progressed to the point of legitimately becoming it's own entity.

Giorno got very well along with Bruno and Mista, it just happens that he doesnt emote much so he comes off as distant which he really isnt

Yes, Donatella impregnated him and he forgot.

That's the problem with Part 5, the whole thing happens in like a single week so there is no time for characters to bond with each other. The only real relationships in the group were the ones which formed off-screen before the story started.

When Giorno "kills" Diavolo, which is not very long after the betrayal, he comes out and pretends that he was the boss all along but now he's not being secretive.

What the FUCK is going on with King Crimson's design? I mean, I like it, but in the manga it only looked either angry or had a inexpressive look. Now he's throwing a lot of different emotions.

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Here's the same part in the manga.

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The only one he even talked with was Buccellati. Mista didn't know what he was thinking and never had a proper conversation with him, Giorno made absolutely no attempts to bond with Mista or speak to him about anything other than work.

Basically this, the relationships between the gang were great, but Giorno was an outsider who never even had the time to get accepted as a real friend. He probably wouldn't even really remember Abbacchio and Narancia by the time SO came round.

Honestly you could apply this thought process to Giorno and Mista too. The boss is dead, the capos are dead, they are basically unemployed homeless dudes. Then we just jump cut to Giorno being the boss, it makes no sense.

>tfw you want to be able to live in the moment, but you only know how to delete the moment.

his eyes look like they are about to pop out

Where's Epitaph's mouth?

I honestly teared up when Narancia was begging Bruno to order him. I always thought it was sad and one of the better moments of the part but it really hit me hard seeing it in motion. Abbachio's death and the Rolling Stones fight are going to absolutely slay me emotionally.

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I mean hey, whose going to stop him/argue against it?

We don't really have any info on what went down, but I figure if Giorno came to the higher ups with all this info on Diavolo, they might just take his word on it anyway.

Generally no, King Crimson is just rather emotional, its sort of its one quirk. They pumped up to hell in the anime, pretty much every single shot of KC is very expressive

Yes, he was also Anasui's mother.

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He stuck there since he doesn't have a boat

too angry to be open

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Bruno's soft smile when seeing Narancia swim by is what got me

From what I got out of the manga

Diavolo was a lil beta fella -> Unknown trauma -> New personality born -> Eventually the new personality become the dominant (around puberty) one thus splitting their souls

Giorno is 15.

Its impressive they managed to make King Crimson look so goddam angry considering we are just following Ghiacchio was also super pissed all the time

>They throw a rhytmic puzzle to you, customized to a goal of your choice.
>If you solve it you get overwhelming luck and achieve that goal with ease
>If you fail you fail spectacularly

"You're the meaning in my life, you're the inspiration."

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he's pissed off 98% of the time
so they had to get it right

This is from Purple Haze Fanfic.

Do not spread non-canon misinformation.

I mean it's not like the island is abandoned or something, there's most likely people going to be visiting/tourist boats and all that who could give him a ride back.

Hell, I was under the impression as it was that Passione just had the power to get all the people who work there ((I figure the place must have security and guide services or whatever)) to leave for a couple of hours/a day so this deal could go down.

As it his, he could get back somehow.

What? Giorno and Mista have a very strong bond after the Kraftwerk and White Album fights. The whole Giorno healing Mista and holding him like Mary holding Christ should have made that obvious.

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He's not pissed off, he's just retarded and doesn't know what's going on, he's a derp.

How is that a bond? He healed him, that's all. They barely even speak to each other.

Purple Haze Feedback is as canon as Thus Spoke Rohan Kishibe my dude

I was tearing up through the entire scene for some reason. I skipped a lot of episodes until this part in the series, and god damn, I can already tell the rest is going to kill me.

It's one of the few good parts with Toilet, that and the very end.

> Not written by Araki
> Any degree of canonical

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>implying
TSRK was written by Araki himself, PHFtard.

>there are actually people who think part 5 doesn't have soul

Giorno literally affirms Mista's belief in determinism and the idea that he is walking a fated path to the point that Mista DELIBERATELY GETS HIMSELF HIT BY RICOCHETS OF HIS OWN BULLETS just to get Ghiachio in position for Giorno to deliver the killing blow.
Giorno gives Mista that whole speech about golden resolve before he cuts his wrists to make White Album Softly Wheeps visible.
Also the imagery of Giorno as Mary holding Mista as a Sacrificial Lamb should have driven the importance of that scene home.

Giorno is significantly more understated than, say, Josuke in terms of his relationship with the ensemble cast. I guess Araki was trying to shoot for more of DIO's charisma.

I want to get into this anime but I can't, I just can't, why are all the character designs so effeminate? I can't do this anime dawg

How is that soulful

There are many things you can critique part 5 on, but you cannot say that it doesn't have soul.

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>Giorno literally affirms Mista's belief in determinism and the idea that he is walking a fated path to the point that Mista DELIBERATELY GETS HIMSELF HIT BY RICOCHETS OF HIS OWN BULLETS just to get Ghiachio in position for Giorno to deliver the killing blow.
>Giorno gives Mista that whole speech about golden resolve before he cuts his wrists to make White Album Softly Wheeps visible.
>Also the imagery of Giorno as Mary holding Mista as a Sacrificial Lamb should have driven the importance of that scene home.
Yeah and that's cool and all, but that doesn't mean they have a strong bond.

People dont bond just by speaking

>trying to start on JoJo's from Parts 4 or 5
Ahahahahaahhahahahahahahahahahha faggot

That isn't a bond. The characters are not friends. They do not share interests. They don't even know what each others interests ARE. They don't talk about their pasts, or the future. They don't laugh, chat, or hang out. There's nothing to suggest that they enjoy each others company.

Compare their 'relationship' to that of Josuke and Okuyasu, or Jotaro and Polnareff, or Jolyne and Hermes and FF, or Johnny and Gyro, or even of Mista and Narancia.

Oh I see, you're just pretending to be retarded

Not him but it does. How is having a fundamental yet unspoken understanding of each others common core beliefs less representative of a strong bond than if they had a couple panels where they talk about the music they like?

because araki takes his inspiration from art and high fashion instead of copying the same sources everyone else does

So Fugo definitely died for stepping on the island right?

i was gonna pretend that that's what my friend said, but i'm a huge loser and i don't give a fuck, some random youtuber said that about jojo designs

>why is the relationship between two professional mafia members who are actively murdering their way up the hierarchy to the relationship between two 90iq highschool punks
>why aren't these things the same???
Hurf durf
Yes Giorno is kind of underwritten but he's also supposed to be naturally charismatic and a leader over those around him, much like Bucciarati was to the rest of Passione. You wouldn't say Bucciarati had no bond with the other members of Passione even though they didn't play vidya and eat junk food together.

Hell you wouldn't say that none of the members of La Squadra had a bond even though they interact together very little. JoJo's isn't a fucking J-Drama.

>Characters being actual friends and interacting with each other casually because they enjoy doing so is a fragile and laughable bond
>A MC giving a cookie-cutter speech about justice and resolve while the character who did most of the work silently monologues about how great he is is an amazing bond
Buccellati had more important bonds with other characters than Giorno EVER did, and he didn't need them internally sucking his dick to voice that.

The whole deal was bungled at that point, so I don't think it really matters who went on the island after the fact.

>character motivating another to pull through one of the most dangerous battles in the arc to that point instead of sacrificing himself completely isn't evidence of a strong bond
Yeah okay

I suppose

You know that your argument is weak, so you're resorting to hyperbole and attacks rather than actually debating in good faith.

Anyway, DIU is not a J-Drama, and only a complete idiot would try to compare it to one. With that irrelevant point out of the way, yes, you're right about one thing - Giorno is SUPPOSED to come off as naturally amazing and awe-inspiring, but it falls completely flat and makes praise like Mista's come off as really inorganic and shallow.

I directly praised Buccellati's bonds with his teammates, and although La Squadra didn't get much interaction outside of Pesci and Prosciutto they obviously had established relationships with each other. Giorno is not like that - he's a kid who came in at the last second, failed to do much to stand out, and then had to have side-characters manically praising him to try and make him sound special.

>Characters being actual friends and interacting with each other casually because they enjoy doing so is a fragile and laughable bond

I didn't say this.

>while the character who did most of the work silently monologues about how great he is is an amazing bond

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and I won't call you stupid. I'll just assume you happened to misunderstand what happened. He didn't internally monologue about "oh man Giorno is so cool that was inspsiring". He came to the realization, by witnessing Giorno's actions, that he and Giorno both share VERY similar or identical life philosophies. This cleared his mind and strengthened his resolve enough to go through with what he decided to do.

Nah, the Boss called out only Bucciarati and Giorno as the traitors so anyone who wasn't seen specifically associated with them wouldn't have been targeted. Polpo and Pericolo, the only other Capos who likely even knew Fugo, were dead too.

That's a flat out non answer, you retard

That happens with basically every team fight, including in Part 5. Mista busted his ass for Buccellati in the fucking train fight, which was only separated from White Album by a few chapters.

What do you think a bond is

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kek

Nobody asked a question

Choosing not to see Giorno's one stand-out moment in the White Album fight doesn't make bringing it up not valid.
Outside of that, yeah Giorno is underwritten as I've said before. But just the visual of La Pieta when Giorno saves Mista should have made a very strong impact. That scene and Prosciutto in the train wheels are probably the two biggest standout scenes of Part 5.

This, as soon as Fugo found someone who would give him a ride off the island, I figure he could have ((and probably did)) just walk away from the gang entirely at that point with no repercussions, he would have been branded a traitor since he didn't join the team, but the Capo who was in charge of him/the area he was from is dead, as well as the Capo who gave them the mission to guard Trish in the first place.

No one would be looking for him, so he could just go on his merry way.

And he also shares these with Buccellati, Narancia and even Abbacchio, who made the same choices as he did.

Giorno has no meaningful relationship with his crew, which is reasonable since at that point he'd only known Mista for like two days.

I repeat - Buccellati had better and more meaningful bonds with his entire crew including Fugo more than Giorno did with anyone.

Mista accomplished very little in the train fight though. Sex Pistols Number 6(iirc?) Did all the work for him.

>failed to do much to stand out

He scarified himself to show he had confidence in Bruno and Abbachio to beat the stand user they were fighting so he wouldn't have to see Abbachio's stand.

He refused to abandon Fugo even at the cost of the mission, again almost sacrificing his life and thus his dream.

That's just off the top of my head. How is that "failing to stand out" from the perspective of the other members of the group?

>ywn elope with Fugo
It hurts

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In Purple Haze Feedback he just rejoins Passione like 6 months after Giorno kills Diavolo and they don't really make a big deal out of it

Is PHF even canon

this picture is two seconds before he jams the spoon in your eye for saying you don't like that kind of pudding

Araki had some involvement with it and it's been referenced in some of the vidya, so it's kind of in that Jorge Joestar territory of "maybe?"

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No, it's not, especially at this point in the anime since they already contradicted the backstory PHF gave Fugo.

no it isn't.
araki likes it though, so that's a feather in its cap.

I'm not '''choosing not to see Giorno's stand out moment''', I'm criticizing writing which was hamfisted, cringey and forced.

And it's not even true - although Giorno's relationships with his crew including Mista were terribly underdeveloped, the characters stand-out moments didn't involve them. Giorno's stand-out-moment isn't clutching Mista while making a speech, it's the end of the Cioccolata fight, killing Polpo, sparing Buccellati at the start etc.

You don't need to project depth onto one panel because it features religious imagery when the character shines brighter by himself.

>Giorno killing that one character who just exists to give people Stands and never does anything is a standout moment
Okay

He's never said as much, and had no part in writing it. He DID contribute to GHGR.

But I do like that kind of pudding.

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>Araki had some involvement with it
Source?

Not that user, but I think Araki said something about how he appreciates that the person who wrote it gave Fugo some closure since he wasn't able to in the actual manga.

As it is though, yeah, still not canon at all.

HOW IS THIS EVEN A DEBATE
THE BROJOB IS THE GREATEST BONDING SCENE IN ALL JOJO

I think he was referring to GHGR though.

fugo would eventually find something to explode about
but he'd probably be very nice in the interim

He drew some art for it according to the JoJo Wiki, so he definitely knew of its development

It's not like that's canon either but w/e.

When he does explode, he can take it out on me sexually.

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Mista accomplished plenty. He figured out how Pesci's stand worked, figured out Pesci's identity and nearly managed to kill him, and then his stand (which is directly Mista, might I add) was an essential part of Bruno winning the fight. Either way, the character was clearly prepared to die, and went out of his way to help Bruno the same way he did to Giorno, right down to it almost costing him his life.

>so it's kind of in that Jorge Joestar territory of "maybe?"
Jorge Joestar is not within 1000 miles of maybe territory

Oh yeah he definitely did draw for it like he did for every other LN spinoff but he did not take part in writing it.

i heard the same thing as , but its completely possible that may be something i pulled out of my ass
i think you meant to respond to for the second part of your post though

It's an establishing character moment. Can't see how anyone who claims to be a fan of the series could not notice.

>which is directly Mista, might I add
No it isn't, Sex Pistols operate automatically and don't necessarily do what Mista tells them to

He was talking about Golden Heart Golden Ring, NOT Purple Haze Feedback.

Please tell me there will be another Jojo thread that isn't made by the caveman spammer

I just want to see 40 Kars on the Moon animated

It establishes that he fucking hates fat people I suppose

Sex Pistols is Mista's stand and is never at any point shown disobeying him, or doing anything other than carrying out his will. In this case that meant following his orders to help Bruno, which it did.

And it isn't automated either, when the Pistols are injured then the injury transfers to him.

>unironically have a folder full of king crimson faces now

exactly it's 100% canon

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Ew, shitposter

>and is never at any point shown disobeying him
Except literally the first time it's shown and the Pistols are beating the fuck out of each other and refusing to work before being fed.
Sex Pistols does what Mista wants, but it's not a literal 1:1 manifestation of his will like some other Stands.

I want to be a kid diddled by Kars

I bust into him.

Nope. They were beating each other up, but stopped when he told them to. And again - at no point do they disobey any of his orders. Mista's stand helping out Bruno in the train fight is Mista's victory, and don't pretend to understate that it passing along the information about Pesci's stand wasn't important either.

joji isn't a kid! he's 15 that's grown by jojo standard

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>but stopped when he told them
user they literally didn't. Sex Pistols all have their own personalities and are at least semi-autonomous. Mista wasn't communicating through Sex Pistols to talk to Bruno during the train fight, Mista was dying on the fucking floor from Grateful Dead's effects.
Not saying Mista didn't put up a good fight but Beach Boy and Grateful Dead hard countered him for that fight. Kraftwerk and White Album were his standout fights and in both of those fights he was primarily paired with Giorno (although Giorno admittedly didn't do shit for the Kraftwerk fight)

I want to be a 15yo diddled by Kars

me too

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