What did BNHA do so right to be consistent with its popularity while Naruto or Bleach declined?

>copied from Naruto
Copied fucking what now? There's no Sakura, no Orochimaru/Madara, no deadly exams (no one has died yet), the hero doesn't have a demon fox and he's not a big eater autist, and Bakugo/Todoroki are nothing like Sasuke.

The only similarity between Naruto and Hero Academia are the hard ass but secretly kind hearted teacher with an eye power (Aizawa/Kakashi), and that the main character wears a single color (an irrelevant shonen trope).

>It's "popularity" is nothing more than a shadow of what Naruto did back in part 1

Naruto Reddit sub subcscribers: 216 000

Hero Academia Reddit sub subscribers: 247 000

Don't think so chief.

>reddit
to Yea Forums you go

>subreddit subscribers being a valid metric
of course more people are gonna want to see shitty normie content of a currently running anime, are you dizzy

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Cope.

>make a retarded point
>think you can pull out the funny word you saw on /r/Yea Forums to win the argument automatically
Why do you even come here? If you just want instant validation, go to the discord. I'll spoonfeed you reddit.com/r/Naruto/comments/4nr08i/chat_with_fellow_fans_in_the_new_rnaruto_discord/

user, I was defending Hero Academia.

It doubled down on the most shallow tried-and-tested tropes of shounen that worked with previous titles. It's disgusting but admittedly it always pays dividends. Instead of ninja or shinigamis or pirates, it's just doing the superhero version of the same thing.

>Why do you even come here?
YOU are asking that question?

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Interesting post. I'd say there is plenty of plot progression until All Might retires. The training arcs didn't yield much character growth, and the villain arcs were effectively filler.

>capeshit is popular
>great anime adaptation which makes up for the manga's mediocre writing
>released at the best time possible right when Naruto ended
Basically a shit ton of luck. Horikoshi is the luckiest mangaka in existence

the pacing is slow so people dont have enough reasons to drop it.

Maybe that's why. Hero Academia is honest about being a superhero manga so it actually deals with plot and character development relating to that occupation.

Naruto and Bleach couldn't help but degenerate into being superhero mangas but they also had all this "established lore" that they never had the balls to really double down on, so there is contrast. Like the dark and edgy side of soul socety that amounted to fuck all because in the end people like Mayuri just became literal karma houdinis. Bleach started out as a powerless kid getting power and his relationships with the shinigami that gave hgm the power, and then he saves her back because debts and emotions and love. And Naruto started out as a story of friendship and getting back an emo friend. But Ichiog and Naruto had to become superheroes saving the world anyway because the genre demanded it, and the dissonance between that original start and the world destroying bullshit that it had to turn into is what created the feeling of decay.

Hero Academia is already that so it will never have to turn into it. There is no dissonance. That's why it's so good despite barely having a plot.

One thing that I feel is weak about BnH's plot developments is that they don't have enough significance. For example, the Overhaul arc. Deku's victory over Overhaul is sort of eh because it didn't really change anything about how he is perceived or treated by other characters. He saved Eri, but he doesn't really know her. Besides, Eri's relationship with Mirio has more weight to it because Mirio gave up his hero career for her. Overhaul himself didn't have enough time to do things, and the league of villains stole his drugs, so it doesn't matter that he's locked up. Deku didn't learn anything either, about his power or about the meaning of heroism (he's never had to learn much at all about the latter).

Holy shit was Dragon Ball that fast? All the events of kid Goku in less than 200 chapters?

DB's manga has fantastic pacing unlike the anime.

This is why I keep calling it an SoL manga. All the story beats that would constitute the girth of any other manga feel so mundane it's practically what SoL heroism would look like. "We beat some villains. It's our job." Most of the actually significant events relate to relationships. Bakugo's and Deku's competition, Todoroki's family matters, etc.

It's why I still read it. It's not a manga that keeps me on the edge of my seat but it always keeps me interested enough to be up to date.

This is absolutely the weakest part of the Overhaul arc. I'm ok with OfA saving the day because muh plus ultra if there are consequences for it. And vs Nomu, AfO, and Muscular, there were consequences that rocked the entire story. There was literally zero character growth at the end of the longest arc in the series so far, it was a complete waste of time.
I almost wish Deku splattered Overhaul in a fit of rage and the heroes had to cover it up.

Honestly the Overhaul Arc felt like anime filler.

I guess I should give it a read sometime. The anime has about as many episodes as the manga has chapters, that's ridiculous.

it is not old enough to be be capable of declining.
you have no idea wtf your talking about

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Not in a million years nigga are you mental or just underaged? Naruto/Bleach/One Piece (in that order) were 90% of any western anime convention in the 2000s; BnhA may be big, but your mom won't see an anime on TV and ask if that character is "Deku", she'll say "Oh hey, is that Goku/Naruto/Pikachu".

Cope.

-arcs that dont drag on for too long. Except for the mafia one which suprise, no one liked.
-Secondary characters actually doing things instead of just naruto and sasuke/goku and vegeta. People like the classmates in 1A and the pro heroes and want to know more about them. Their in the background sometimes but sometimes they have a time to shine and show off. Naruto didn't take advantage of the huge cast that was introduced in the chunnin exams.
-arcs aren't always "lets train and then fight the bad guy of the arc", sometimes there's school stuff, sometimes theres villain stuff.
-antagonists are diverse. Naruto only had orochimaru/akatuski/and madara who was an extension of akatsuki to begin with. MHA has had the league of villains, stain, the mafia, other classes and schools, and now a hero radicalists.
-lack of competition. The only straight forward battle manga now in jump is Black Clover and kimetsu. Maybe hxh if were lucky. Naruto and Bleach were homogenized with battle manga fatigue after going on for so long alongside reborn, beelzebub, medaka, and Toriko.
-capeshit popularity worldwide

Seething.

COPE

Hori really hit it with the girls he drew, that's why. Story wise, the pacing is so fuckin slow, he hasn't fucked up something big yet, other than giving Deku 7 Quirks now. His big fuck up is going to be in the next 80 chapters.

I guess that's why it appeals to normalfags so much and why 90% of the fanbase is full of shippers

Seriously the shipping is the worst I've ever seen. Naruto never got this bad because the majority of the fanbase at least cared about the actual story.

SEETHING

>TV
Try youtube or crunchryoll. The only thing a TV is used for is console gaming and background noise, or netflix. And the mother will be more occupied with the kid playing too much Fortnite. And the reason why that mother will know of any anime character is because they were on TV when she was a kid. It's information from her era, not her kid's. And the kid only knows of Naruto as Boruto's father.

>Bleach - 74 volumes
>Naruto - 72 volumes
>BNHA - 22 volumes

What do you think, dumb BNHA nigger?

COPE
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>Seriously the shipping is the worst I've ever seen.
Fuck no, that's Bleach.
MHA's "shipping" is 90% ironic gay memeing some of which is genuine fujo by poe's law. Every manga gets that. You see it becasue there aren't any genuine ships and Deku/Ochako is basically chiseled in stone. so there's is not much to argue about there.

There was no shipping in Bleach.

There's nothing but ship shit in Academia.

This is so wrong it's literally the other way around and I have no idea how you can even think this.

In Bleach the ship shit stayed in Tumblr, with Academia it's a shit river that leaks everywhere.

>There was no shipping in Bleach.
Holy shit you must be new

>reddit
fucking hell bnhafags truly are brain damaged 12 year old zoomers it's not a meme

the biggest anime and manga forums in the 2000s were naruto themed, bnha is nothing popularity wise compared to prime naruto

>the biggest anime and manga forums in the 2000s
Those were small compared to something like Academia Reddit sub.

Bleach had shipping wars before there even was Tumblr, it had shipshit all over the internet harking from a time where people still frequented forums and Livejournal was a thing. The fujodelusion MHA currently has had nothing on the shipfaggotry Bleach and Naruto had back then.

>Secondary characters actually doing things
Hahaha, good one

>BNHA do so right to be consistent with its popularity
Naruto didn’t start declining until the Ninja War. Just give Boku no Hero a few more years then we’ll start to see it decline.

>Boruto's father
This a meme you dolt, do you take everything you read online seriously? BnhA is barely in the early Bleach level of popularity (and even then it only achieved it because of the Naruto widows moving to read/watch something else)

The naruto run is a normie meme, athletes are seen with DBZ/Naruto gear all the time; it's in pop culture my man, BnhA hasn't broken that barrier yet

Tumbler didn't even exist when Bleach shipping was already ten times more rampant than this fake fujo shit. Before tumbler it was gaia. People were told to "go back to gaia." There was always a place you had to "go back to" when people didn't agree with you, Trump didn't create this infantile shit. Scapegoating is an ancient retardation.

yeah you don't know what you're talking about

>the existence of kids who are so young they've only seen Boruto is a meme

My brethren of afro-ameican descent, I inquire as to the status of your seriousness.

My hero is definitely popular, but you guys are seriously underestimated just how popular Naruto was in the West around 2006 and up. One piece and bleach do not even compare. I don't even expect any anime to even get as close. It almost reach DBZ Heights.

also "the west" doesn't mean anything

burgers obviously mean the usa when they're talking about the west, but it's actually a small market compared to france for ex which is the second biggest manga market in the world after japan

and in france there's just no comparison, naruto at its peak was far more popular than bnha nowadays, and one piece is still more popular than bnha too

My hero academia? More like "my endless exam arcs academia." Fuck this shit.

This desu.

Sources?

Common sense

So no sources? Just your gut feeling? Ok.

>lemonde.fr/pixels/article/2016/11/05/naruto-les-aventures-du-plus-celebre-des-ninjas-prennent-fin-en-france_5026061_4408996.html
>Numéro un des ventes pendant dix ans en France, alors qu’au Japon il n’a jamais réussi à détrôner un autre mastodonte, One Piece, Naruto s’est écoulé à 18 millions d’exemplaires à ce jour dans l’Hexagone
this means that naruto was the best selling manga in france for ten years and that it sold 18 million copies in france alone

Naruto openings aren't reaching these levels of views. I wonder why? Could it be because... it's just not as popular?

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Played into the superhero movie boom at the exact right time in the exact right way

I think a difference in comparing popularity is that anime wasn't as mainstream back when Naruto was a thing compared to now, plus a difference in how much anime is being consumed and creating competition. Back in the mid 2000s, DB's dub had finished up, the Pokemon anime wasn't as big, Yugioh's anime wasn't as big, a lot of anime was being handled by 4Kids like One Piece which was looked down on, and Bleach was on Adult Swim so Naruto probably had the best shot of getting a following. Sure, there were fansubs back then, but they couldn't compete with the output of all of today's simulcasts on various streaming sites.

its not about pacing, but fillers. DB anime before DBZ has lot of fillers. nevertheless, they are for the most part not tiring or forced like the ones in Naruto since DB was at the beginning an over-the-top adventure and the fillers bring that stuff back from time to time while the main plot was getting darker and darker till King Piccolo´s saga.

It's been years. What normalfag give a fuck about nutruto.

It's opening surpasses three of the videos you displayed on jewtube

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You blind fuck. See the top video here

>Hero Academia song top views 135 million
>Naruto opening top views 51 million

No comparison. Hero Academia is more popular.

According to the dates, that video also has been up a year longer than 3 of those videos. And the ones that lost are still a lot closer to Silhouette's number of views than Silhouette's is to Peace Sign's.

Cringe

you explicitly said,
>Naruto openings aren't reaching these levels of views.
But, the video I displayed shows that some people watched more or the opening than the three videos. But the top video is proof, I'll give you that win.

Kids grow up.

Only some 6billion people have even accessed YouTube
What about the other 1.5 billion user

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Huh, so I guess Hori had some brain, to think about cashing at the wave. Too bad it didnt translate well into the story.

>Seriously the shipping is the worst I've ever seen
are you like 12 or something? where have you been?

It actually did moved forward a lot but it's not really a fair comparison to other manga's or for any manga to be compared to each other since they're all focusing on different things. BnHA is about its school and the students and their journey to become a proper hero so the progress is more personal and the journey is confined to the school and the years spent in it. It seems slower because most people are used to equating powerlevels to progress.

OP is obviously underage and isn't aware of internet before reddit and tumblr.

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>Odd future 38M/10 months
>Silhouette's 51M/2 years
>Peace Sign 135M/1 year
Oh no no no no no

Naruto and HeroAca also have more population than the Dragon Ball subreddit, will you say they are more popular than dragon ball then?

I can't believe this trash is being worshiped.
I was tricked into reading this shit and dropped out after Afo vs Ofa which was alright I guess and apparently it doesn't even fucking get better.
There is no "classic" arc in this shit
Uninteresting cast
MC is a diet Tsuna but even more annoying
There is no plot as well

50% of its popularity comes from normal fags and capeshit fascination

decline already started happening with the yakuza arc

>people exist that actually put this shitty manga above naruto in terms of popularity
Maybe Bleach, but even that's debatable. Delusional fanboys

These millions of views didn't just magically appear

>has no plot
>has no interesting arcs
>literally just repeating the same shit over and over (more exams, more power ups, etc) without raising the stakes or even developing characters
Hori owes 100% of his success to western capeshit and the lengths to which amerifat companies have gone to export it globally.

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Delusional and retarded, dangerous combo.

Cope.

This, any other answer is objectively retarded. I like MHA, but it has run anywhere near as long as Bleach and Naruto, both of which enjoyed massive popularity for years.

>people are claiming that MHA is good despite it having almost no good straight porn
Yeah this shit is just a flash in the pan.

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Relatively. Naruto's time was during a decline in anime's popularity in the west. Boku no Picodemia is popular during a time of overall increased popularity and visibility due to social media. It also has more competition in stuff like One Punch Man and other shit. Naruto really had nothing that came close to matching its popularity in America during its heyday.

>Naruto's time was during a decline in anime's popularity in the west
You mean rise?

>Boku no Picodemia

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are you so fucking retarded that you don't remember that by episode 200 Naruto and Bleach were still pretty consistent, or you're too much of a new fag to get the context?

>secondary characters actually do something

nigga you just mentioned the Yakuza arc were most of the secondary characters didn't do shit, remind me what villain Uravity fought?
Oh yeah and remember that nigger that was against Deku or some shit

It finally fucking happened, a franchise so cancerous that the board is actively trying to defend Naruto. And the anons are right, BNHA will never come close to the level of popularity and autism Naruto had especially when it did not have the vantages like streaming, YouTube, reliable subs, Twitter, etc., that BNHA has now during the early days of the Internet. For fucks sake an entire city in some third world country had a Naruto festival, I would like to see BNHA topping that.

KEKS OF Yea Forums

>third world
Who gives a shit

DAMN BOI SHE THICC

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You don't get it. MHA being popular is different because it's a subversion of your typical battle shounen. It takes a concept (a battle school) and plays it completely straight by having most of the arcs center around tests and training exercises rather than real life events. It's actually impressive how entertaining it is despite having absolutely no stakes. Also the girls are very cute.

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thiccer than a bowl of oatmeal

DOREHODO YUME NI FURETEIRU?
MEZASHITA MONO GA ARU
KONOTE WA NANI WO MOTOMETERU?
TASHIKA NA MONO WO SAGASHITE
FUMIDASHITARA SOKO NI
KIMI WO MATTEIRU
IKUSUJIMO NO HIKARI GA
OOZORA MO KONO DAICHI MO
SUBETE KARADA NI SUIKOME
TOMARU KOTO NAI ASU WO
OIKOSHITE KIMI WA TSUYOKU NARERU
HUNTING FOR YOUR DREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAM

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>copied Naruto
Naruto made 90% of it's cast irrelevant anyone who wasn't Naruto, Sasuke, Sakura, Hinata, or Shikamaru wouldn't get any proper development at all.

Meanwhile BNHA is STILL fleshing out characters left and right.

Meanwhile in BNHA no character has really been fleshed out.

>it's not just another battle shonen guys they do nothing but fight but it's in a school so it's different
Kill yourself

Like who? The main character has been a crying faggot since the start with zero development and his rival has been an edgy faggot since the start too. The only character with any real development is the one that went from hating his dad to kind of liking him

why is every bnh so thicc

No. The manga got attention near the tail end of the boom but by the time the show started airing on CN (and thus available to a wider audience than people downloading fansubs) it was 2005 and the boom had long faded away. More widespread use of the internet meant it still enjoyed greater prominence than it had pre-Toonami but the anime market in the states was nowhere near as hot as it was from like 1999-2002 or so.

Almost everything you said is wrong, the boom never faded it just kept growing

>it's a subversion of your typical battle shounen
>plot goes nowhere
>MC has bullshit powers he pulls out of his ass
>asshole rival who's totally awesome and fujos love despite being an unlikable asshole
>poor pacing brought on by a combination of writer incompetence and the publisher wanting to milk its popularity resulting in the series going long past its sell by date and losing the charm it had at the start
>lots of female characters but they're all useless and do nothing and are only there so the male characters have poorly written, poorly advanced "romances" that only ever come to fruition at the very end of the series
I don't really see how it's a subversion at all. Maybe on the surface level that brainlets can only see but below that it's no different from every other shitty entry in the industry's most cancerous genre.

>most cancerous genre
Brainlet

I was around for the boom and its decline so I know largely what I'm talking about but enlighten me. The boom doesn't refer to internet popularity and anime in 2005 wasn't anywhere near as popular as it had been at the beginning of the decade.

>while Naruto or Bleach declined?
are you retarded? it took naruto over ten years to start losing popularity. and still, its on about the same level as bnha

T. 20 year old faggot that thinks he's old and knows everything

Oh no no no

I was in middle school borrowing bootleg nth generation VHSes of poorly subbed DBZ movies from friends when the boom started in the late '90s, zoomer.

>retarded manchild thinks anime stopped being popular because his friends stopped watching cartoons like most adults do
>thinks he's hot shit because he's 30 years old and posting on Yea Forums
Pathetic post

>Chapter 217
I don't have any data but I'm pretty sure around this time Naruto's popularity was going up. Sasuke retrieval arc is pretty popular.

Can we just get a separate board for shounen shit already

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Boku no hero is getting by through waifu, hype, and feels. My hero, imo, peaked during AFO vs All Might. Critical watchers are going to see how bad the Overhaul Arc really is and the Casuals will eat up like crazy.