One Piece

Jack is lucky to be alive.

True it wouldn't be fair.

>still
you either have it or you don't. and if you're referring to the other two types, it has nothing to do with your character, you just train them.

Tsuru could have taken him solo.

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Going off how conqueror haki works I also agree that it's not in Garp's character to possess it. He is strong, but clearly doesn't have "conqueror" or "King" like qualities to rule. Sengoku having it makes sense, I mean, he was fleet admiral. It's the highest rank you can have in the marines in One Piece. I also agree that Sakazuki most likely possesses it as well. I'll also post who else I think has it

Shanks
Mihawk
Sabo
Zoro
Buggy (Hilarious as that is)
Law
Kidd

Really when you think about all the people we know who possess conqueror haki, it's quite a lot. I mean all the Yonkou can use it, plus you got Rayleigh as well. Katakuri could use it also.

>Kidd
Kid having it has already been confirmed. No need to speculate on that

Garp was Luffy before there was a Luffy, so it's strange he doesn't have it. Though I guess Garp never had this huge ambition of being greatest at his profession like Luffy.

Shanks and Kid already have it.

>Kidd
It's been confirmed since chapter 924 that he has it.

Guess I speedread through that part. Well, I knew Shanks probably had it. Didn't know they confirmed Kid could use it.

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Garp was offered the title of Admiral and he turned it down to stay as a Vice-Admiral. I find it hard to believe he has the power of an Admiral, but we never saw Garp go all out, so it's hard to speculate just how strong he really is. Rayleigh doesn't possess a DF ability and he's the strongest character we've seen so far, at least in terms of speculation. It's pretty obvious that you don't NEED a DF to be a strong as fuck person in the world of One Piece.

Comparing Garp to people like Kizaru, Sakazuki, and Aokiji just seems unfair. Garp doesn't strike me as being nearly as strong as those guys.

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Young Tsuru a cutie

Here's the page.

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I don't know about Sakazuki, if the condition is having "ruler qualities". That's the same faggot who's willing to kill his own men because they have a heart. You can see a King sacrificing pieces to gain an advantage, but not losing his shit because they're not mindless murder machines. Under that criteria, Blackbeard is far more likely to have it than him, since he sees the value in collecting strong pieces to achieve his goals and push his rule forwards.
The only thing that 1000% magmad butthole needs to conquer is his hemorrhoids.

What will Kaido's hybrid form look like?

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She's 6'6" user.

Remember Chinjao? The guy with the ability to split islands and possibly continents with his pointy head? Garp literally reshaped his head with one punch. I have no doubt Garp is strong even without CoC, he wouldn't have been Rodger's rival if he wasn't.

Oh sorry, Young Tsuru a mega cutie

Well, look at Donflamingo. Dude was a piece of shit and he possessed Conqueror Haki, granted he was a Tenryubito, though not sure if that had anything to do with it. Blackbeard most certainly can use conqueror haki as well. You don't have to be kind-hearted or pure to possess or use conqueror haki. So by that logic it's more than possible for Sakazuki to use it. I also find it hard to believe an Admiral who turned Fleet Admiral can't use it when Sengoku could use it. Sakazuki is also all about "Might makes right" philosophy.

BB's gimmick is he doesn't have haki

Doflamingo considered the officers precious family as long as they remained loyal.

The difference between BB/Doffy and Akainu is that they know the values of allies. Akainu strikes me as the kind of guy who wouldn't trust anyone to accomplice anything, but do it himself. I'm not sure that's a very "King" like quality.

His vivre card confirmed he has armament and observation.

But that's completely wrong. He's confirmed to have CoA and CoO. Hell, he was the only who INTRODUCED the term "Haki" when he sensed and judged Luffy's on Jaya.

She was probably even taller than that when she was young. This is not the femdom thread. You have to leave.

Jack captured and used as a sex slave

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>She was probably even taller than that when she was young
Oh sorry, Young Tsuru a giga cutie

They ultimately reveal that was Shank's main power and how he became a Yonko

I think all Yonko have it

>you will never be the cabin bitch boy to Tsuru's all female Marine crew

>lesbians using a man as a sex slave

Sengoku was a dude who saw the value of his men though. Dolfy was beyond doubt a piece of shit, but even he had that quality of a ruler, just in an evil and little tolerance/forgiveness way. Evil != no appreciation for those concepts by default.
Sakazuki is about might make right, yes, but he has absolutely no appreciation for anything else but "absolute might absolute justice". He's a tunnel-visioned child in chinman's body. Aokiji didn't get that upset about the idea of him leading for no reason, you know.
I just can't see a tantruming manchild being a conquerer or having any strong qualities that lend themselves to being one besides "being strong".

Femdomfags get out

damn

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Let's be real, good end Nami would definitely also sell weed

>Buggy (Hilarious as that is)
It's an unconscious thing at his level. He can control it, but he can't contain it. He'll awaken his fruit and split the Red Line, mark my words.

Damn.... Jack gets jobbed even by the Universe

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Yeah he considered "his family" but everyone outside of the family was trash and scum in his eyes. Doesn't make him a saint or anything, but it does show he was capable of showing compassion and kindness to those he trusted or deemed worthy.

If that was true than wouldn't it make him weaker? Haki seems very strong and the potential of how strong it can become almost seems limitless. Not being able to use it seems like a major handicap.

Let me clarify or rephrase something. I said "King" like qualities, but it's called CONQUEROR haki, not KING HAKI. I don't see a king and a conqueror being the same thing. You could call it semantics I suppose, but in terms of Oda's writing and the world of One Piece his definition of "king" might not be what we consider to be a king. You might think of a stereotypical king that is powerful, wise, tactful, etc. But that version of a king might not be the version that Oda is going off of when he explained or wrote up the idea for conqueror haki. If anything people with extraordinarily potential to lead or become strong could possess conqueror haki. Luffy does want to be a king, technically. But I don't think he actually wants to rule over anyone. If anything you could say conqueror haki is just strength of spirit if anything. It's a willpower thing.

This is a good point. Most people we've seen with conquerer haki, to some degree, have been somewhat level headed or at least had the presence of a ruler. Sakazuki doesn't really come off that way. He is strong, but looking at people like Donflamingo or Big Mom. They're eccentric and can act reckless, but they still gave off the presence of being a leader or ruler. Sakazuki is very irrational and gets upset over anything he doesn't agree with.

I like Carrot, she's like a female Luffy except that she actually can interact with the rest of the girls and have a fun chemistry

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No talking about spoiler has me kinda worried. Is there no chapter this week??? If so, I would like to say Oda is a HACK!

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D-do you think Nami and Robin share a room together? Y-you think they ever did anything? I bet they watch each other masturbate

>He'll awaken his fruit and split the Red Line, mark my words.
I can see it.
He'll be like a reverse Moses, parting the red land instead instead of the Red Sea.

>Robin not wearing a bra
>Carrot having assless shorts
>Nami is the only one that's not a slut.

Yeah, there is no chapter this week, user. Also I must say I've been seeing a lot of ESL anons lately.

Can Captain Buggy forgive me for forgetting his image?

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I wish they'd go back to their own Yea Forums.

You forgot to mention

>Robin in a thong
>Lingerie
>Nami's ass is hanging out

Nami is still dressed pretty provocatively, though at least she isn't wearing a thong and lingerie or assless shorts.

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Heh

>Buggy decides he's going to part the red line
>Does it successfully
>turns out the water level is not equal on both sides of the red line.
>Water on the other side of where he's doing it is a solid 100 feet taller
Buggy just killed 90% of the population on his side of the red line.

This is my wife. The rest of you need to move on

No.

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Can someone remind me what the fuck even is Buggy's ambition? To be super famous and rich? To live a life of luxury?

Fishmen will save everyone.

>D-do you think Nami and Robin share a room together
i'm pretty sure they do
>Y-you think they ever did anything? I bet they watch each other masturbate
obviously

>Friendly reminder that LinLin's amnesia makes sense in hindsight:

>We know that using the Soru-Soru fruit involves cutting off a piece of your soul and inserting it into elements, objects or organisms
>Big Mom had a drastic personality change at a young age where she went from not having the mental capacity to handle a bear dying to cannibalizing people in only a few short years
>Linlin switches between Mama and Haha for her laughter, Haha being Kanji for Mother.
>People in One Piece can physically project their soul, given Brook who doesn't even have the SOUL fruit
>Zeus was exclusively made by Mama's soul and not Carmel's and either retained his memories or his personality.
Big Mom is the only character to effectively mix her laughs together, which is only possible because a piece of Mother Caramel's soul survived inside her and influenced her personality.

The Big Mom we saw that grew up and became a Yonkou was a mixture of Linlin and Caramel merged together. Current Linlin is 100% Linlin since nearly drowning in the ocean water removed Caramels/the devils fruit effect.

This chapter was all but confirmation.

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>No

YOU JUST KNOW

He wants to be Pirate King and steal all the treasure in the world. Nothing less from the great Captain Buggy.

And then?

>>turns out the water level is not equal on both sides of the red line.
I'm no expert on ocean physics, but I don't think that makes sense considering there's already at least two waterways through the Red Line.

And here's Prometheus scolding Zeus. Zeus, like mama, has a complete weakness for sweet stuff unlike Prometheus.

Given Napoleon's state I'd wager he most likely has amnesia too unlike Zeus who we saw had a bit of personality in the last chapter.

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Irrelevant

Brooks ability is expressly stated to be due to his Devil fruit.

And then?

No chapter this week. You should really read the little blurb at the end of every chapter. I'm surprised we still get people asking.

????
PROFIT!!!

I thought there was only the one? Also a decent chunk of the underwater passage is an air bubble.

And thennnn???

CoC is a fucking joke now

NO AND THEN!!!!!

Then he'll find out about Enel and become Space Pirate King and strip entire planets of their precious metals.

FINALLY! Someone got the reference. Thank you, user.

Watch this.

youtube.com/watch?v=CkdyU_eUm1U

Yes. But his powers are related to the Soul and Oda has said in the past
>Though there are other fruit pairs out there that might make you wonder don't they pretty much do the same thing?
I'm guessing if Caramel still exists and pushed her soul out Brook style or just inserted a piece of herself into Lin Lin

Akainu haters always sound butthurt.

Technically two. Water from the OP world's western hemisphere enters the eastern via Reverse Mountain.
The Fishman Island bubble also takes up only a small portion of the undersea passage.

>all these redditors not getting sakazukis character

And then he'll split reality and create an entirely new universe.

No.

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Your coc is a joke

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't it said those who posses CoC have the qualities of a king? Most of the people who have CoC's are people that understand the value of allies/subjects. Even with the villainous Doffy, he understood the importance of allies. I don't think Akainu has those types of leadership skills that are fundamental for a Conqueror/King.

I mean it's literally called "CoC"

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I want to believe that Killer is Zoro level, but it's difficult to imagine with those stupid fucking weapons of his

CoC being held by a guy who stands on top of a global organisation? What a surprise!

Or maybe because Vivre card is incomplete? I mean, they hide the bounties and upbringing of many of the characters. They even had Sanji have only CoO when he was clearly able to hurt Luffy with his physical attacks.

Luffy also has the quality of being able to clearly see the value of his pieces, even if he doesn't consciously think about shit like that.
Fuck, he might be the strongest example of someone showing those qualities in the series so far. He had a very clear idea of what sort of people and things he needed/wanted to have on his road to Pirate King from the moment he set out, and adjusts very quick to the idea of needing more. It just looks silly as fuck when he talks about it, since he's a silly as fuck character.

>They even had Sanji have only CoO when he was clearly able to hurt Luffy with his physical attacks.
Sanji showed he had CoA against the Pacifista and you don't need haki to hurt Luffy, although it does help.

Actually reverse mtn might be proof of what I'm thinking, If the water was pushed up at the same rate from both sides you would expect there to be downslope waterfalls on both sides of the mtn wouldn't you? Everything else being equal if the water only goes down on one side you would think it's because the water going up on that side hits the top at high enough speed to back splash which would mean it's going up a shorter distance.

But Akainu understands the value of allies you retard.

It's strange that Ace has it. He's a dedicated follower, and pretty much tossed away the will to conquer and rule to singularly dedicate himself to raising up Newgate. He's the only one that makes no sense at all to me.

His eyes didn't see the same horizon the others did because he was satisfied in Newgate's shadow. His dream was to protect Whitebeard's dream. Even Rayleigh basically stood shoulder to shoulder with Roger as King in the Shadows. But Ace was completely subordinate, and even chose to die for it, so he couldn't even claim to be Whitebeard's partner.

So is it just pure nepotism because he was related to Roger? Cause it sure seems like it. Ace has the weakest case for haoshoku.

The Vivre Cards are incomplete. The reveal that Sengoku possess CoC probably means he's not going to be relevant anymore in the story
I'm guessing all the admirals + Garp and maybe even Coby can use it

But does he understand the value of Cinnamon Toast Crunch™?

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Of course he does. Not like he was gonna slay Coby for standing up for what's right, something an Admiral couldn't even recognize and took it as defiance. Fuck off you faggot.

In Ace's case, like you said, it's not that he absolutely never had that drive, but more that he willfully put it aside.
On the opposite side of that relationship, remember it also drove Whitebeard fucking nuts, because he knew damn well Ace was holding himself down with that shit.

>Not like he was gonna slay Coby for standing up for what's right
Oh so you are just a cuck.

Good. Sengoku is a great character and carried the fuck out of the Marines during the Paramount War.

Ace did have the ambition of a Conqueror, that much was certain even when he was a kid. He was even a Captain himself before joining WB. I guess he sort of just threw his Conqueror potential away. Because he was content with his position. And didn't feel the need to aspire to be anything greater.

I love Pudding!

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Will they ever return?

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does haki make you age well or something?

Yeah, CoC was quite downplayed. It's fucking ridiculous that jobbers like Katakuri and Chijao have it

Ace saw Whitebeard as a father figure. I think that's a bit different from normal leader/subordinate relationships.
Plus Ace never showed CoC as a Whitebeard Pirate. It was something he did as a kid when he still intended to be a captain. The power might have gone dormant as he changed.

>Not like he was gonna slay Coby for standing up for what's right

lmao what a fucking retard

Because fighting a battle you'd already won, and sacrificing more of your men's lives for nothing is definitely a sign of a good leader. Fuck off Akainu

Not Coby? Isn't being able to hear the voice of the world part of Conquerors haki or is that Observation?

I bet they're in CP-0 now.

Katakuri......jobber...what?????

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>carried the fuck out of the Marines during the Paramount War.

Literally didn't do anything until WB was dead

Akainu probably chomps on wheaties or rice chex like a little faggot.
True shitter to the end.

But that's what happened. Did you Speed read that part and think Coby was acting out for shits and giggles?

Did I stutter, faggot?

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That's Observation, though Coby seems to have a pretty good version of it.

Everyone's a jobber unless the difference in power is too great.

Jobber just means it's their job to lose to make the victor look good.

Like how Luffy jobbed to Kaidou.

>Imagine how many people livenin the one piece world, a billion probably
>We know 10 guys who have conqueror
>But 50% of the character have it hurr durr
The story has to revolve around the strong people in this world, especially at this point of the story.

How does this improve one pieces quality?

Gold and gems that display one's class, if I recall from his intro.

>battle you'd already won
The battles against piracy didn't end though. There was no reason to let any pirate escape.

It's Observation you dunce.
Although I think there might actually be two different subtypes of it. Prediction and sensory.
Like, Katakuri can see a little into the future but he couldn't sense people in the cake. Koby could sense everyone dying on the battlefield, but he couldn't predict that Akainu was going to kill for speaking out.
Katakuri's foresight was disrupted by losing his cool, while Koby was extremely stressed and couldn't stop hearing the voices.

How come Drake's hybrid form has this weird snout shit but Page One's didn't

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The marines had the chance to kill a bunch of infamous pirates and Akainu didn't want to let that chance go. Coby was a coward. I'd bet you're a liberal and support ISIS

I really am interested to see the development of these two. I really do believe that Coby has the potential to use conqueror haki, not to mention his dream is to become an admiral and I certainly think that will happen. Makes you wonder just how strong he'll become? Helmeppo just wants to support Coby, so not sure if he has the same potential as Coby. I doubt it. I could see him maybe becoming a vice-admiral. I mean, Garp and Sengoku were best friends or knew each other for most of their lives. Garp was a vice admiral and Sengoku become Fleet Admiral. I could see a similar relationship between Helmeppo and Coby. I can't see someone like Helmeppo becoming an Admiral, and even Vice-Admiral might be a stretch. I will say Helmeppo has had a lot of character development for someone we rarely see and is just more of a sidekick to Coby's character.

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It doesn't. It's just a nice bit of trivia we didn't know about the character.

Probably Pageone's "human" teeth and jaw are just fucked up, like Katakuri's.

Because Page One is Killer Croc.

The Marines were losing men themselves. Sometimes it's better to retreat and live to fight another day than just die a pointless death.

she's wrinkly by 39

Chinjao was the leader of a huge navy and gave Garp a good fight when they had a clash.
"Jobber"

You are mentally underdeveloped.
I said that the poneglyph which told of Poseidon's location was not at Poseion's location.
Robin read the skypiea glyph to the reader, she did not reveal PLUTON's location or answer the question where PLUTON was at in this story.

It is implied that the glyph which points to its location, is not at its location, especially since that's already the case with POSEIDON on panel.
Robin not revealing PLUTON's location doesn't mean it's on Alabasta.
The ancient shipwrights built a city on top of PLUTON and disguised it as a giant fountain. This worked because of the knowledge loss event, and it's why the WG has never gotten its hands on it so far. It has a literal undercity under the water and is named after the god of the underworld.
Water 7's fountainhead is a giant marvin the matian laser blaster in disguise.

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Especially since Shanks showed up 5s later and he probably would have killed Akainu for killing Luffy. Garp would have straight up quit the marines as well.

>The character that I was rooting for didn't win so he's a jobber and I'm going to complain about it.

Even Maynard and Smoker can become Vice-Admirals, Helmeppo is gonna be fine.
Coby is probably going to be part of the Admiral trio in the upcoming sequel Two Piece, and he's going to chase down Luffy's son.

based retard

>But 50% of the character have it hurr durr
Not even close. Oda's created around 1500 named characters and only 10 of those can use CoC.

Smoker had a DF ability though. Coby and Helmeppo don't possess DF abilities. That isn't to say that they won't acquire one later on in the series, though I can't see that happening. Coby doesn't seem the type to want a DF ability and neither would Helmeppo.

>gave Garp a good fight

Garp very literally one-shot him. What are you talking about?

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>1500 named characters

Pretty sure he's added that many since Fishman island.

>Sometimes it's better to retreat and live to fight another day than just die a pointless death.
It was literally the best opportunity to finally get rid of the whole WB crew and their allies for good you imbecile.

He should have said forced Garp to do a training arc.

If you ignore the other Yonkou that showed up 5s later that is true. Shanks' crew was fresh for a fight when they showed up.

WANO IS TERRIBLE

… Justice..?

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This really begs the question since they fought Kaido the day before.

Garp is one of the strongest man on Earth and he still struggled with Chinjaos head
>muh one shot
It was a fight to determine what was more deadly, Garps fist or Chinjaos point.

I thought they were just having a face off and didn't actually come to blows. Shanks basically just blocked Kaidou from advancing till Kaidou went back to Wano.

>TFW you'll never have a friendship like this

I really envy Coby and Helmeppo's relationship.

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And that's when the marines stopped, are you literally retarded or something?

NO, you silly dog! Any man who is free can plainly see the swirls of cinnamon and sugar in every bite!

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>Any man who is free

So, certainly not Shanks

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>When your neck is the size and thickness of a watermelon.

Shanks probably just gave Kaidou some good booze and told him to let Whitebeard die on his own terms.

This. It's a snoozefest for me.

>he doesn't know

You have to make up headcanon though; the manga says they were fighting.

They stopped when Cody yelled "stop", well everyone but Akainu did, he was about to kill Cody before Shanks blocked his lava hand with a sword.

The argument is that Coby is a pussy and Marines could have totally won a clean sweep by killing the remaining WB's.

My counter is that with the addition of Shanks crew the battle likely would have turned back into the Pirates favor.

Shanks is not subordinate to the World Government, just as he wasn't swearing fealty to Whitebeard when he warned him and presumably Kaido as well first.

Momonga said that Shanks intercepted or clashed with him but it was left vague

Seems like Oda is just trying to build suspense or lay the foundation for the battle. I thought WCI was massive snorefest until we got to the Katakuri fight and the attack on the wedding. Wano is probably the same thing. The closer we get to the battle the more exciting it'll become.

You do know BB's crew was at Marineford as well, right? Unless you're implying that the marines could have taken down BB who at the time possessed TWO DF abilities. I don't think even Sengoku and the Admirals could have taken him down plus his entire crew.

Based.

Fuck Samurai Jack and fuck not-Japan. I want to see Shanks kissing Imu's feet and the Admirals fighting off the Revs

GET A LOAD OF THIS, FAGGOTS.

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Coby and Helmeppo are awesome together. They both have changed a lot of the course of the story. I like how strong Coby has gotten especially his observation haki.

I love him so much!!!

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Coby was right, if the war continued for even a couple more seconds all three admirals would have been easily killed by Shanks and his crew, and Marineford would be crumbled into the ocean by Blackbeard.
Akainu was the pussy who froze solid after giving a speech about killing all pirates no matter what and never hesitating, just because the strongest one appeared.

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Doesn't he use conquerors that one time he goes to meet whitebeard?
Shanks would have to be pretty fucking good to become Yonko without Haki or a DF ability

>I don't think even Sengoku and the Admirals could have taken him down plus his entire crew.

Based speedreader

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Garp is stronger than akainu

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This isn't Nar*To

Any admiral could have killed the entire BB crew, however he was still dangerous because he could sink the island.

Point taken, but BB did always seem like a coward for some reason. I guess he just chooses not to fight if he doesn't have to. There is wisdom in that.

Pretty much this, the most powerful known member of the crew at this point (after BB and his 2 fruits at least) was the ex-head of Impel Down but he was weakened from the whole 'years of imprisonment' thing.

Akainu waited for orders from Sengoku.

T. Not sanji

Prime Garp? Sure. Present Garp? Nah.

He's growing stronger

>based retard
Blackbeard avoiding a fight because he's not ready for it in his plan that he told Crocodile he wouldn't share with us (Impel Down) isn't the same as him being unable to win the fight.
Shanks didn't even know Blackbeard had a devil fruit when he warned Whitebeard that Teach would kill him and take his place and that his power level was hidden. Quake didn't even fuck Teach up.
Also, Akainu wasn't full HP at Marineford, and Quake was shown blocking Magma on panel.

Sakazuki is a terrible leader and is a "by the book" marine, he is the least likely marine to have CoC

pretty sure they do, at one point you see Lord Momonosuke sleeping between them in the same bed

Like killing Coby?
>Shanks was there clashing with Akainu already.
Sengoku and Garp were the only ones able to challenge Blackbeard and they couldn't do shit to him and he was laughing at them as he walked away only per Shanks' banter.

STAMPEDE Staff
>Director: Takashi Otsuka
>Animation Director: Masayuki Sato
>Production: Hiroki Koyama
>Character Design: Masayuki Sato
>Art Director: Hotaka Okamoto
>Screenplay: Takashi Otsuka, Atsuhiro Tomioka
>Art Setting: Nobuhito Sue

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I wish there wasn't so much gay fanart of them, though I can understand why people draw them in that way. I don't even see them like that. I just think they have a cute friendship, and as I said, I'm envious of that. Helmeppo really cares for Coby and Coby cares for him. They're almost like brothers who are best friends. I just think it'd be nice to have someone like that in life.

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>Fujitora has a df
Swordatedffags btfo

Akainu was only alive because Shanks let him be. If he can block him from hitting Coby completely undetected, he can cut his head off the same way, retard.

>Like killing Coby?
No like engaging another Yonko.
>Sengoku and Garp were the only ones able to challenge
no
>they couldn't do shit to him
Blackbeard was saved by Shanks arrival.
COPE
Akainu would have killed another Yonko that day if Sengoku gave the order.

How in the fuck is her 3rd eyeball possibly hidden at all with her hair like that?

Blackbeard could have just quaked the air a bunch of times and sank the whole island. Regardless the little detail about him not doing that being bad writing, it's not like he was about to 1v1 all the other dudes in a row.

>Blackbeard avoiding a fight because he's not ready for it in his plan that he told Crocodile he wouldn't share with us

Are you literally retarded? His plan was to strengthen his crew with the inmates from ID, steal Gura Gura no mi and become a Yonko, you absloute fucking moron.

>Quake was shown blocking Magma on panel.
Akainu made magma rain down from the sky and WB could only watch as the rain burnt down Moby Dick.

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>the offspring of one of those people is someone we know
"Muh pleb bloodline" fags about to get btfo, the chances of Zoro having Ryuma's blood are getting stronger each day

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new buggy design?

>Regardless the little detail about him not doing that being bad writing
Because he would die aswell you retard.

>sink island
>die
>???
>profit

He only had a chance against WB since he was older, weaker and sick. If it was Prime WB than it would have been a different story. Shanks attained Yonkou status with just one arm. If he could do that and clash with WB when he wasn't already fatally wounded. Than Akainu would have been toasted.

Thread reminder that Vivi will be the 10th and final SH to join, as well as the future user of the Nikyu fruit

It's koshiro, you goober

>clash with WB
You mean like this? Both WB and Akainu were stronger than Shanks.

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>Black Hole the water
Now what. Drainbeard will make Crocodile look like Higuma.

He has Sanjuan Wolf. And besides, he was about to do it until Sengoku gave his whole "WE R JUSTIZ" speech and then the scene changed to something else and BB didn't quake anymore for no reason.

How can you use anime yet pretend you have any ground to stand on.

Kyoshiro never left wano you dumbo, the descendants of the people from that boat are from the East blue

Not that user, but it's hard to speculate power level when it comes to characters like Shanks. It's all hearsay and theories if anything. We haven't actually seen a full length battle with Shanks, nor do we know the depths of his strength. You people can have a power-level circlejerk session but it won't matter because neither one of you is right.

i want to see tsuru fighting in her prime and how OP her fruit is

KOshiro you fucking dongle, zoro's sensei

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>Both WB and Akainu were stronger than Shanks.
No they weren't, WB was far weaker than he used to be, and evem then he matched Akainu

It's Makino.

Same thing happened in the manga speedreader.

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Beating up a wounded sick old man doesn't show much strength. When Shanks did it, WB wasn't injured and the clouds open.

one piece aging and height are hilarious to think about

>I've decided that this is where I die!!!
Jinbe is really bad a making decisions, and keeping to them.

Oops, wrong pic

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Let me cheer you up with the dynamic duo, user!

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It seems obvious that prime Garp is stronger than all of those though. And he turned down the promotions because he didn't want the reduced freedom that comes with being admiral, so it doesn't sit well to use the "not going for admiral = no CoC" argument.

I don't doubt he had some connection to Wano, though it is a theory. I'll be excited if Oda brings him back up during the Wano arc. He always did seem mysterious to me, not to mention he did dress in Wano attire and he was a swordsmanship instructor, but primarily was teaching students how to fight with a katana. It couldn't just be a coincidence.

Actually isn't Zoro's old teacher still alive? I thought he was and Zoro just ended up leaving the dojo to go out on his own.

Zoro's old teacher is the guy I posted the pic of...

Yeah...I know. That wasn't my question. Go back and read what I wrote and actually use your brain.

>WB was far weaker than he used to be

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Still used an anime screenshot

What is your question? If he's still alive? That just makes you look worse; of course he's alive, why wouldn't he be?

I dunno how I feel about this, I liked that no marine had conquerors
well it isn't a big deal

Concession accepted.

Did someone already translate vivre cards? this nigger Arthur is a slack like always

Not an argument.

>Actually isn't Zoro's old teacher still alive?
that pic is from a cover story, i don't exactly remember which one

Oh in that case its possible, though he looks too old to be a descendant, specially by fact that he probably taught Zoro that battlecry from Kuri, wich would mean he actually lived there

Maybe the fact that he had nurses attending to him all the time and was older? And not to mention was wounded before he set foot on the battlefield.

Considering that Buggy is now using his fruit constantly at all times to make himself look larger maybe he could actually pull off Awakening at some point.

Granted we still don't know what allows you to awaken your fruit so I could be completely wrong but it would be amazing if it happened.

same thing happened in manga retard

I wish I knew who the artist was for this picture because they produce quality lewds that actually look close in style to the actual characters

>though he looks too old to be a descendant
he's in 50s

If only there were some way to take an image and upload it to some sort of service that scans for similar images on common weeaboo image sites.

I wouldn't say far weaker, but WB definitely wasn't as strong as he used to be

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>but it's called CONQUEROR haki, not KING HAKI
Actually that's wrong. The Kanji explicitly says "supreme king". I don't think conqueror is a valid translation.

See pic
Yeah, and thats old. Like i said if he was a descendant them he wouldnt know the battlecry from Kuri, unless we'll reach even futher and say that his father taught him that and all about Wano's aesthetic wich he used in hia dojo

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The mysterious prisoner is Ganzack.

It's Gin (or Vegapunk)

Well, CoC is also about overwhelming willpower, right? To push through your own will over others, no matter what?

Applying that to Ace, he didn't exactly conquer and rule things in his own name anymore under Whitebeard, but he definitely was all out in doing that for Whitebeard. CoC-holders tend to want to shape the world in their own image. For me, the difference between Ace's ambition for Whitebeard and just about every other Whitebeard-pirate, is that he talked about it like Whitebeard as Pirate King will happen because he wills it. He is the decider who will make Whitebeard the king. Whitebeard saw himself as the decider who would definitely make Ace the king.

It's not only that, but also his trait, shared with Roger, that he would be on the absolute front-line to defend his crew's/friends' safety, even when the people he was protecting, were perfectly capable to fight for themselves. But in Ace's eyes, everything will have to go through him if it wants something to happen. That is a mentality and a level of determination that goes beyond being stubborn imo. A mentality that came forward when Luffy used CoC at Marineford, when Doffy was getting lynched as a kid and when they faced eachother in Dressrosa.

Also, with CoC, you could also say that it comes a shit load of charisma that draws people towards you or in other ways inspires the entire mindset of people. Ace didn't want to be king anymore, but quickly got the backing of the Whitebeard Pirates to be commander and despite being young, would've probably been accepted as its new captain, had things went the way Whitebeard intended it to go. Not to mention the many outsiders who came to rescue Ace and cited a personal connection beyond simply loyalty to Whitebeard as a reason.

Right now, I'd say it's not so obvious to me why Hancock, Chinjao and Katakuri have it, but I'd imagine I'll understand it eventually.

i always liked the guy's design but it seems oda repurposed it for the pirate who got maules by hody at the start of fishman's island

Imagine being the kid she says this to. Also, that sounds like shes still free at 40

>and is a "by the book" marine
>changed the HQ location to show pirates that daddy's in the town
>destroyed survivors' bat in Ohara out of his own accord
>got into a heated argument with Gorosei about CP0
He's not by the book. There's a reason "Sakazuki does coup" theories are popular, no matter what you believe about them.

>15 years old

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So was Crocodile actually talking about WB being weak as in, lacking strength? I always thought that panel was about Croc buying the bullshit about WB selling the captains out and calling him out on it, but the Viz translation makes it sound like he's just mad he got stabbed kek

>"Sakazuki does coup"
Soon

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Franky has dormant CoC.

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was Komorusaki Momonosukes sister?

*changed the HQ location closer to where his bosses live
*destroyed survivors' bat in Ohara because thats what his owners really wanted, no survivors
*got into a heated argument with Gorosei about CP0 that ended up doing nothing
There is not a single moment where he opposes the gorosei, after all the only reason he is fleet admiral is because of them
>There's a reason "Sakazuki does coup" theories are popular
Yes, because people have an image about Akainu that is wrong, he is a lot more like Lucci

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>There is not a single moment where he opposes the gorosei

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Yes

>Yes, because people have an image about Akainu that is wrong, he is a lot more like Lucci
back to r*ddit

What's the source on Sengoku having CoC Haki?

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new vivre cards

>no argument
Nice talking to you, akainufags

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Hanging around with a Pirate King keeps you young because something happens that sees him share his lifespan with his crew, while he dies early. That's why Rayleigh is still top fit and Shakky looks like she's Robin's age. Nami being old and fugly is from a future where Luffy doesn't become Pirate King.

I'm glad Vivre Cards confirmed Chapter 0 is canon.

>15 years old noble girl will never step on you

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He is the prisoner.

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>image about Akainu that is wrong, he is a lot more like Lucci
not really, Sakauzki genuinely believes in his ideas while Lucci just want to have fun with killing people

that pic doesn't really help your case, my man

wrong

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bros I miss Kalifa...

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I didnt say they were the exact same character, but Akainu is way more similar to Lucci than to any other character, as in he thinks the system(aka the goverment) justice is absolute, and he follows their orders pretty much without question. I dont see much difference between Lucci killing for pleasure and Akainu killing even other marines to satisfy his justice
>Akainu goes to the gorosei asking why Doffy had so much power
>they literally tell him to shut up and do as he is told and thats exactly what happens
>"that pic doesn't really help your case"
Only if you're incapable of reading

The argument continues until they get the news about Dressrosa though.

Akainu is an asshole and extremist but he's nothing like Lucci, Lucci don't care about Government or justice at all, he just wants to legally kill people

Is this confirmed? did I speedread past something confirming or implying it or is it just the general assumption?

assumption

>they literally tell him to shut up and do as he is told and thats exactly what happens
except it doesn't, as sakazuki continues to question their authorities on problematic matters such as kuzan's role in the blackbeard's pirates

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That 40 yo Nami's line is pretty hot tbqh

That's Goroseiguy telling Sakazuki about Kuzan, user.

No, they change subject and start talking about Kuzan
No, they both follow the goverment's orders pretty nuch blindly and both have bloodlust while doing so, the only difference is that Akainu is self entitled
You pic literally has the gorosei changing subjects, not Akainu

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>Replacing deKEK with CHADby for MHA protagonist when?

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you are wrong, Akainu never showed any sign of "bloodlust" unlike Lucci who genuinely smiley while thinking about fighting Luffy

Akainu believes in Absolute Justice while Lucci just uses Justice as an excuse for sating his sadistic tendencies, see the difference?

Fujitora is the weakest Admiral!
He needs help from Tsuru to defeat Jack

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pardon the doubleposting
i'm well aware of that, my dear, my point was that sakazuki doesn't shut up. in fact, as another user pointed out, their argument got interrupted by that marine who brought news of the dressrosa incident
>You pic literally has the gorosei changing subjects, not Akainu
it's sakazuki, you goddamn imbecile. notice how the speech bubble is referring to someone outside the panel

no user, the gorosei dude tries to shift the blame by bringing up kuzan, to which akainu replies that kuzan's actions are not his responsibility since he's left the marines

You said
>sakazuki continues to question their authorities on problematic matters such as kuzan's role in the blackbeard's pirates
But the pic you posted doesn't have Sakazuki questioning any authority, but apologizing for Kuzan's actions. It's the perfect example of how he submits to the authority of the Gorosei, even if he plays the hysteric about it.

>sits on your face

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Get off me!

>apologizing for Kuzan's actions
bait

I'm not Luffy.

>you will never be that snake and coil around hancock's body

Coby cums inside Rebecca each night

*dies*

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>b-baka, it's not like we can do anything about kuzan! so don't question us about him even though he literally quit us to just to join the arch-villain of the world!
Pretty clear-cut, I'd say.

To think that Luffy could tap that.

>Akainu never showed any sign of "bloodlust" unlike Lucci
Wrong, pic related. No different than Lucci killing those guards when he was a child because they failed at their mission of protecting the country from pirates
>it's sakazuki, you goddamn imbecile
Are you retarded? Go reread the chapter, thats the Gorosei guys arguing in response of Akainu's "muh marine face"

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you guys are actually right and i'm a fucking retard for that post, i got confused by the fact there was no "tip" from those bubbles which usually indicate who's talking in that moment

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Yeah? Well Helmeppo cums inside this bitch!

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>Are you retarded?
refer to this post i take the loss in this case

Okay, anons, I know the question may sound silly, and I don't want you to think I'm some kind of pervert, but I just started wondering if there exists a drawing of Anana poking Flampe's butt baloon, revealing her butt for people to see. I have some memory of that thing, but I don't recall if I actually saw this or just read someone's idea about it.

I love this image so much. Cant wait until the end of Wano for the complete crew reunion(including Vivi of courae)

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That's not bloodlust, that's just being cold-blooded. Bloodlust is shit like Lucci licking his lips in battle and taking pleasure in brutality.

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I can't cope anymore carrotbros
It's over

can't have your men running away in the middle of a war my dude

I'm calling the police

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B-but user, I-I was just asking. It was a-all out of curiosity... please, I have wife and kids.. I can't go to jail... user...

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Yeah, that's probably this, thanks. I knew I wasn't crazy after all!

>Killing your own comrades to satiate your perverted sense of justice isnt bloodlust if you not lick your lips while doing so
I think your image of "character with bloodlust" is too caricatured user
No need to kill the guy either, he could have just arrested him

Yeah it's not bloodlust. He gave a deserter a swift execution.

nope

stop replying to the retard holy shit

>he could have just arrested him
there are two problems with that, one being that it's the middle of a war the other being it gives anyone else who wants out an out, if you have to choose between being killed and being arrested what would you pick?

He doesn't seem to enjoy killing or seek it out for his own personal gratification, it's more like something that must be done for the good of the world, witch is why he kills pirates and pirate enablers

Hey stop supporting this shit already. Manga must be ended.

>No need to kill the guy either, he could have just arrested him
Are you legitimately retarded?

>doesn't listen
>How dare you, peasant.
>crushes you

?

Why would we do something so nonsensical?

someone got the main female privilege, cause usually time isn't kind with them

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Are the Germa going to get Vivre Cards? I want to know what Reiju's Devil Fruit is.

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Are the Gorosei supposed to represent the United Nations or the Loominaughty?

Press F for the dead trio.

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Gorosei are the official high council of the world. We now have One Piece's very own conspiracy shadowy leader with Im, so that's that.

Good god. Built for ball-busting sex and impregnation.

BUT I BREATHE FROM THERE!

>Are the Germa going to get Vivre Cards?
yes i believe it's the pack before the big mom pirates' which will come out in august, i think

I don't want to cause an old vs new flame war, but it's scary to think that every single line of ink there is calculated and intentional.

How the hell does that dress thing even work

>Are the Germa going to get Vivre Cards?
Yes, in August.
>I want to know what Reiju's Devil Fruit is.
At that point it's a safe bet her "devil fruit" was just a mistake of people doing that magazine.

That's fine, falseflagging anticarrotfag. I'll be laughing and cheering you on as you slit your throat.

1. Conqueror's Haki is inheirited, Garp had it.

2. When Garp was fighting Chinjao their Conqueror's Haki clashed in chapter 719.

Garp definitely has it.

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F

If you say so
>it's the middle of a war the other being it gives anyone else who wants out an out
Not really, there was no one else around besides Koby so no one would know, and even if that ended up happening again he could've threaten them instead of killing
>He doesn't seem to enjoy killing or seek it out for his own personal gratification
He definatly doesnt seem to hate it

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So, how will this "EX Character" card thing be done? At this rate we won't rech Skypiea during release with them, and doing pack just for extras seems like not too smart decision.

Will Oda make a color spread for the Spring Equinox?

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that isn't big mom on the left is it? Wasn't she always a fat fuck?

If Kong ends up being stronger than Akainu, I have no idea how the Straw Hats are supposed to win against all these hordes of strong enemies.

Oda writes the magazines.

>Conqueror's Haki is inheirited, Garp had it.
It isnt
>When Garp was fighting Chinjao their Conqueror's Haki clashed in chapter 719
Thats not a conquerors clash, they generate black lightining

That is indeed canon Big Mom in her 20s.

We got a speed reader here.

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Sakazuki > Kizaru/Kuzan > Garp/Sengoku > Kong

>Oda writes the magazines.
No chance in hell, at best he supervises, and stuff like this can always slip through. Like Bastille being giant in one databook.

You gotta pay attention to this series.

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>It isnt
It is (or at least it can be), but that's no argument in this

I don't get it, in the scene where Kyoshiro kills Komurasaki, he's holding the rebellion note, did he get it from Komurasaki or was it given to him? Is Kyoshiro an ally or enemy?

>did he get it from Komurasaki or was it given to him?
he picks it up from the ground
>Is Kyoshiro an ally or enemy?
that's the big ? right now

>I don't get it
And that's precisely what Oda is going for.

When was it shown that Boa has it?

If it was inherited then everyone in the BMP would have it, instead of only Linlin and Kata, same thing with Rocinante and his father

better question: which one piece girl smell the nicest?

the note is in komurasaki's hand

Amazon Lily
>Gorgon Sisters: "This man has the Conquerer's Haki just like Hebihime!?"
>Hancock: "He has the same Haki as me!?"

Wow can't believe Nami will stay in her prime until her early 60s at the very least.
Sanji's really a lucky guy

It was stated when Luffy used it in the battle arena on Amazon Lily.

This guy looks cool
I hope he plays a big part in the rebellion

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Kalifa should since she has the soap fruit. Maybe Robin if she smells like her blossoms or whatever, and if you like the smell of flowers.

Smoothie probably smells like freshly squeezed juice so I'm sure that makes her a top contender

And if Cinnamon actually smells like cinnamon then I might as well rank her #1

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Have any of you ever actually experienced facesitting before? I have and it's not as nice as you think it is.

Then what about when Garp saw Luffy use Conqueror's in Marineford and said. "So you did inherit it".

>implying Nami will end up with Sanji
Remember Nami said in WCI that she will never forgive Sanji for what he did
Nami will be for Luffy, Robin for Zoro, Usopp will be with Kaya, while Sanji will end up with someone from the Okama kingdom

That's not necessary a confirmation that Garp has it, it might only be Dragon.

I'd guess user's argument would be that he's referring to inheriting it from Dragon.
I mean that doesn't exclude Dragon getting it from Garp either, but it is a weird out if Oda really doesn't want Garp to have CoC for some reason, but it seems very strange.

I dont remenber that happening but it could just mean inherited will instead of actual genetics

Shut up Germa

LUFFFYYYYYY
ONE MORE THING

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where is this shown? I started watching over a year ago and got up to fishman island then kind of got over the anime, only recently I picked up the manga from there and caught up with it

That's not how inheritance works. When Luffy revealed his haki people immediately attributed it to Dragon being his father. It strongly suggests it's inheritable (though possibly can also develop spontaneously). Roger's son had it, Dragon's son had it, at least (and it needs stressing out, it is at least) one of BM's sons have it. And even if Homing had no CoC, doesn't mean some of his ancestors didn't. To the contrary, I thin since he descends from twenty kings who started WG, it is quite likely they had it.

Sanji: I hate Germa
Also Sanji: *uses raid suit*

Rayleigh said you can't be taught CoC it's a trait you either have or do not. Inherited will is all about choosing to carry on somebody's legacy.

Different translations might have varying interpretations of the exact wording.

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Yeah, and Dragon could very well inherit it from his mother's side.

You'll quickly discover there are different levels to being an OP fan when it comes to knowledge. A lot. I don't think that was even shown in an SBS, was it? Some extra drawing he did for something.

Again, i dont remenber that happening, post the page or at least say in what point it happened. Also like i said, if it was genetics than most of BM children would have, and there are people with no special bloodline like don chinjao and Boa hancock with CoC as well

SBS shows a lot of stuff
Oda even drew the Shichibukai when they were kids

Are Samurai strength overblown? If they were really that strong they wouldn't get wiped by Kaidou

Depends on who sit on your face.

Just checked and that seems like the official translation, and is the one that makes more sense, and based on that it isnt inherited at all
Yes, you're born with it, but it happens by chance not genetics

Kaido is in another league.

All memes about Jack aside, he's still a Calamity, and Shutenmaru slashed him up while suffering no damage sooo.

Traitors.

Fujitora is the weakest Admiral!

Have you actually had your face sat on?

I think the idea is that genetics make it far more likely to inherit, thus everyone else point out that it's probably because he's Dragon's son. Which he himself would theoretically have gotten from being Garp's son.

You chase the enemy so they cannot rally and fight you another day

>Again, i dont remenber that happening, post the page or at least say in what point it happened.
When Luffy used CoC in the Marineford. Both marines and Ivankov attributed it to Dragon being his father.
>Also like i said, if it was genetics than most of BM children would have
Not necessarily.
>and there are people with no special bloodline like don chinjao
He's the 12th leader of famous fleet that's passed down from generation to generation. It's certainly possible they were conquerors.

Also, you don't have inherit from parent, sometimes a trait skips generations. In OP world's genetics it's especially true with how minks/fishmen/mermen work.

I haven't been following this convo but facesitting can be incredible.

>Which he himself would theoretically have gotten from being Garp's son.
But this part is a stretch.

How so? If it's more likely to be inherited then each previous generation is likely to have had it to pass on. And Garp is an insane powerhouse that rivaled Roger.

I see Helmeppo just becoming Coby's Bogard.

>He's not by the book
he is, just he's a zealot so he's bound to conflict with those not as extreme as him

Quick reminder that databooks and magazine articles aren't canon.

Keep seething

Traits can be dormant or he could have inherited it from his mother's side (who knows if she'll be a character). Not saying he doesn't have it, but this argument doesn't quite work.

You pretty much answered your question

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>Luffy inherited it from Dragon
>BUT DRAGON COULDN'T HAVE INHERITED IT FROM GARP
?

Jack got BTFO'd by an Elephant and couldn't even get the minks to surrender Raizou lmaoooooooo

Jack is garbage

failing at mission is one thing and desertion is other

I said it's far cry from confirmation he inherited it from Garp. And even if he did, it could have been dormant, straman-kun.

>Shutenmaru slashed him up while suffering no damage
Jack wounded Shuntemaru back

Have you actually have your face sat on?

>killing deserters
>perverted sense of justice
excuse me nigga, if you don't want to fight then don't join the army

Yes. I loved it. Make sure they have panties on unless they're a super cute girl.

i did when i play wrestling with my female friend, i was like 6 years old back then and that was nice

An elephant implies it's a regular elephant you'd find strolling around. Zunisha is 1000x the size of that.

Like i said, there are people from regular bloodlines who were born with that hability, like Boa, Don chinjao, etc. Its something natural leaders have
>When Luffy used CoC in the Marineford. Both marines and Ivankov attributed it to Dragon being his fathe
Because he is a great leader as well, but that doesnt mean its genetic
>Not necessarily.
Yes it is, she has more than a hundred children, and not even Daifuku and Oven have CoC, hell Linlin herself is the daughter of commoners and she was born with the hability
>He's the 12th leader of famous fleet that's passed down from generation to generation
He became that afterwards, he was originally a pirate. Also that isnt a position that its inherited since Sai is the new leader because of his skill, and as far as i remenber they are not related
>Also, you don't have inherit from parent, sometimes a trait skips generations.
But then it becomes reaching, like saying that Doffy has CoC because of his ancestors hundreds of years ago instead of being the same random chance as the others. At the very best you could say people from certain bloodlines have a tendency to have that power, but the power itself is not inheritable

so old Nami will prey on young boys?

I have been facesat by three different women and not a single one of those occasions was it as nice as it's thought to be.

Gotta have realistic expections, it's generally agreed even by normies that real life sucks.

It implies the opposite tho

Reminder that kaido is stronger than zunisha
This means that he can make what zunisha did to jack look like childs play.
Diplomacy is the only way out of this arc

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Zoro will be the one to beat Kaido. He will open his eye that has been shut for so long and reveal his Empyrean Eye that will allow him to cut anything.

>boys

>kill his own men
>men who are abandoning their posts when pirates are attacking their fucking MAIN BASE
Traitors are killed, and always have been. Stop being such a little faggot. If he lets one faggot abandon his post, other marines will have the thought 'it's okay to flee' in the back of their mind. You can't fight the WB pirates and a bunch of new world captains if you think like that.

You forget that there were TWO other admirals at pretty much full strength too. Shanks is strong, but he's not beating all three of the admirals, even if one is hurt. If Sengoku HAD given the order, Shanks and his crew probably would have died too, but the damage to the marines in total would have been catastrophic.

If Linlin can have CoC, then akainu can too.

Sengoku wouldn't have given the order since he knows Shanks is Gorosei lapdog

alright, i'm doing this shit. give me your best and worst for these first two acts of wano

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Plato: the prisoner is Gin
Aristotle: the prisoner is Gaimon

It still too soon tho

It was defiance you dumb nigger. Sengoku had NOT given the order to stop yet. Coby was literally committing treason. Akainu was well within his rights as an Admiral to kill a soldier who was committing treason.

wano is gonna be a long arc, we're obviously gonna have more than just one (like what we did with whole cake)

this stupid meme encourage shitposting you shouldn't do that

don't know what exaclty but it needs

>jackposting
>carrot joining x not joining
>namigay
>jimbe joining x not joining
>conjectures about big mom's amnesia
>tama
>toko
>zoro

Akainu only stopped fighting because Sengoku, the most superior officer said so.

oh come on user, you're no fun. it has been a staple in these threads for DECADES

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Namigay has been a thing since forever

Was... that ever in question? It was kind of obvious from his fucking introduction that he had one, with the whole you know, sending fucking people to hell with gravity thing.

God damn, I really really want a Garp spin-off.

but it isn't on any ''painting-arc-meme''

I still think the Big Mom pirates will have an all out attack on Wano and fuck up the Beast Pirates. Yeah Big Mom is a meme, but she’ll be redeemed by fucking up Kaido before he kills her, setting up the Strawhats to finish him off and free Wano

>changes base to the new world
>the place where all the strongest pirates sail
Why is this a bad thing? Akainu want's to kill pirate niggers, and the strongest/most dangerous ones are all in the new world.

Kamazo and Uchimitsu Kozo are gonna be allies right

yes

According to the newest Oda's design of nami, she is 60 years old.

Garp refused because he would have less freedom the more he went up, not because he lacked ambitions.
>retards thinking Garp ambition was to climb marines ranks.

Why wasn't Garp the protagonist?

the sexual tension between him and sengoku was too much for the minds of young readers

Don't reply to that fag.

>went to the new world in less than a year after departing
>already trying to fight the big shots without CoA
>no ambition reeeeeeeeeeeee

>Katakuri
>stabbed himself due to pity for Luffy
>Fags
>jobber

your average op chad

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>doesn't know how basic genetics works

Oh sure, tell me how the genes that give you magical powers work

Why does it matter if the numbers 1-13 are taken? Strawhats are defined by having a red vivre card, as long it's red who cares what the index number is. We can just think of the first 13 as strawhats introduced pre-TS.

Buggy and usopp will be the true heroes of the story.

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Didn't this guy fell last and wanted Luffy to escape? If anything he gave Luffy that victory

>Strawhats are defined by having a red vivre card
No, what defines it is being withing the 1-13 range and having the SH watermark
>. We can just think of the first 13 as strawhats introduced pre-TS.
No, we already have their pre-TS cards, it has the same numbers

Like normal genes.

Fuck, I want a one piece marine anime starring tsuru sengoku and garp young

>No, what defines it is being 1-13
You're literally just pulling that out of your ass though.
>We already have pre-TS cards
Learn to read.

>All the Strawhat cards are red
>Vivi's card is orange
Carrotfag memes aside, why is this?

>Jackposting/Drunk kaido posting
>D A R K - S H O G U N
>American/Wallmart/Mobility scooter Queen
>I can't believe Absalom is fucking dead (or something like that)

Not all genes work the same way, some are dominat some are recessive, and some traits depend of having a pair of alleles while others just need one

he looks depressed, is he fine?

seeand

>You're literally just pulling that out of your ass though
Thats how it works retard, from number 14 and onward are only non SH cards
>Learn to read.
You're still wrong because Jinbe is there and he joined last arc
Because she is considered a formed crew member for now

Zoro got worst genes, he still looks cool but he already look old as fuck at 40

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that's cause he's an alcoholic

We know of at least three characters who aren't 'Kings' themselves but follow others: Rayleigh, Ace and Katakuri. Probably in Shanks and Kaido crews there are others besides themselves who have it.

I really want to see Oda's explanation on these.

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What are you trying to say?

So you're using precedant to create a requisite, that's now how it works. Oda is the author, vivre cards are simple merchandise.
>You're still wrong
I'll repeat it again, since you still can't read.
>first 13 as strawhats introduced pre-TS
The keyword here is "introduced" you complete autist.

>Luffy become Garp: Episode 2 when good end 60 happens
damn that's cool

Similar to how Rayleigh has it, despite playing second-fiddle to Roger. It's possible to shelve those ambitions without giving up the indominatable spirit of the conqueror within you.

Sabo looks so much better without the Luffy eyes. His normal eyes look childish and not suited to a guy whose main role is being the elder brother.

It also clashes oddly with the giant scar he has around his eye. Like that whole area is heavily scarred but his giant, eyelid-less eye is unaffected.

>vivre cards are simple merchandise.
Cope
>The keyword here is "introduced" you complete autist
Jinbe wasnt a SH when he was introduced you retard, and thats just your headcanon, there is 0 evidence that this is the case, now go fuck yourself

Nobody's saying that the Gorosei don't have power over Sakazuki. The point is that Sakazuki questions their authority and decision making to the point that he's willing to talk back to them and cast doubt on their commands. He's clearly disgruntled to some degree with how they're running things, which is why the page lends credence to "Sakazuki does coup" theory.

Man with best genes
>Katakuri
Woman with best genes
>Nami, Shakky

>Katakuri
>best genes
Have you seen his mouth???

Considering how much damage just WB and his crew gave to the Marines, they definitely were in no position to fight Shanks.

It makes him cute!

>cope
So you're just a shitposting anticarrotfag, alright.

I think some of you are wildly overthinking the concept of Conquerer's Haki and some are also completely off the mark. Conquerer's Haki dominates the "will" of people who are weak in mind, spirit, heart or whatever.

You don't need to be the leader of an organization, you just need to be someone with powerful enough will to impose it on others, whether it inspires, terrifies or whatever. That's it, simple.

It's a very simplistic trait that Oda can slap on whoever he wants.

One Piece is not an allegory for real world politics.

>Considering how much damage just WB and his crew gave to the Marines,
Only Whitebeard did cause serious damage, Akainu literally took on all commanders by himself.

Why is that scary?
You do know that every single line of "ink" in the digitally-drawn manga is also "calculated and intentional", right? Do you think Oda just closes his eyes, scribbles over the page, and then cleans up the mess? How do you think digital drawing even works?
What was this post even supposed to mean?

>Jinbe wasn't a SH when he was introduced
Is this a joke? None of the crew were members when they were introduced.

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Only for a few minutes and thats because he is the most powerful admiral, we saw Marco and Jozu hold back kizaru and Aokiji respectively

>Jinbe wasnt a SH when he was introduced
is this guy for real

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Most of them joined in the same arc they were introduced, Jinbe only joined 5 arcs after he was introduced

Luffy was a strawhat when he was introduced

the absolute state of bunny haters

wrong

>I really want to see Oda's explanation on these.
They have indomitable wills that they enforce on others, 'conquering' them. People with this power have the dispositions of leaders, and frequently are leaders or willingly give up leadership if they feel someone else is more worthy. Someone with CoC cannot be forced into subjugation and will fight back to the very last if forced.

They managed to intercept a single attack, nothing else. Aokiji cut Jozus arm off and Kizaru was playing with Whitebeard.
I kinda doubt that Shanks crew could stand up to all three Admirals.

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they could since there also were many pirates from Whitebeard army and Blackbeard destroying marineford

Does it even count yet since he hasn't kanpai'd or been with the crew at all for quite some time now?

BRAAAP

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not really, he's less Strawhat than Law

cringe

Because he's a washed up hack with no ambitions in life. He's fine with settling for Vice-Admiral position and puts his job above his family, because resigning himself to follow orders allows him to think that he's serving justice without actually putting too much thought into it like some other characters such as Kuzan or Fujitora have done.

t. criminal symphatizer

>They managed to intercept a single attack
No, Jozu was still fighting Aokiji until he got distracted with Marco getitng shot
>Kizaru was playing with Whitebeard.
He kept his distance from most fighters, and in the only direct clash that we saw he was sent flying by Marco
The absolute state of carrotfags

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No, Shanks was the only character who was a strawhat when introduced.

Demalo Black as well.

Coby just showed how corrupt the Marines are. They're willing to stop at nothing to kill more pirates even though they'd already won anyway. And throw more of their men's lives away.

Heh, it's funny. I know Carotfags died yesterday, but it still feels like they're somehow still there. Will take some time getting used to it.

How many times have carrotfags "died" now? Four, five?
I wonder what the next time they die will be like.

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They will die for good after Wano ends and she either goes back to the elephant or joins Inu and Neko in their new pirate crew, but their dreams of her joining is mostly dead. Only retards like continue to grasp at straws

Oda will be confirmed a hack if Kyoshiro is an ally

When Wano finishes and she doesn't join, that will be their final death. And we'll be free of the 2 year plague we've suffered.

>after Wano ends
So are you going to be bitching and moaning for years?

Dude Whitebeard had a seizure for Akainu to land his first blow. Shanks wasn't having seizures.

No bitching, theres no use in beating a dead horse, only shitposting

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>are you literally retarded
>lists only the first part of Blackbeard's plan as if that was it and his ambition is complete.
Fuck off.

This post is a perfect example of what's wrong with these threads right now.

An user makes a point about Vivre cards not being the end-all for the crew, and later down the thread he's accused of just being a Carrotfag.

Do you people realize just how fucking far you fallen?

The magma raining down from the sky couldn't hurt Whitebeard though. That's all Blackbeard needs, since Blackbeard can also pull Akainu against his will and then kill him with his own magma by cancelling his power. San Juan Wolf is much stronger than Moby Dick.

>Gets into Orochi's good graces and inner circle to better spy and get an advantage on him and possibly Kaido
Kyoshiro is too high IQ for you to understand

That's been speculated since his introduction when he was shown with Kyubara the delinquent's hairstyle. In fact, if you go through and find manga characters from different stories with Kyoshiro's hairstyle, it's like a universal rule for them to be based.

His entire point was based on assumptions that have no base whatsoever, and he even sperged when someone used "cope", even called that same person an anti carrotfag here

Not that person but I was the first user, objectively, to shit on the Vivre Card and point out that it's just a tankoban. Carrotfags and non alike shit on me for it until it became a motive in your weird argument, and now suddenly people agree with me.

>but their dreams of her joining is mostly dead
I feel like you're just saying that's what you want to be true.

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He said that he didn't want to climb the ranks because it would would diminish his freedom.
Pirates aren't good in One Piece apart for some few.
Ace isn't his family.

the delusion

Damn I need the sauce for this

Calling someone out for being an anticarrotfag doesn't make you a carrotfag. If you make the same kind of shitpost over and over, people are going to give you a nickname. Would you prefer he be called "copefag" instead of "anticarrotfag"?

I just think it's weird how we went from
>not manga = not canon
to
>I know the future because of merch
I'm just not sure how seriously I can take people who think that way.

I'm sure you'll be saying the same thing if she doesn't join. If she was on the Vivre Card, all you Carrotfags would have been spouting "she's confirmed joining" Now that she wasn't all you can say is delusional. We'll see if you can keep it up in the long run. I don't even have a thing against Carrot, I've liked her since her introduction, but by God does she have a cancerous fanbase.

HAHA DFUQ I READ IT IN UNCLE'S VOICE

Nobody's beating up Jinbe. Relax.

To be fair, which camp has been using "COPE" repeatedly recently? Exactly.

It'll be, like, three or four years by the end of Wano.

>Carrotfags pretending to not be carrotfags
kek, how pathetic.