Starting with a classic
Biggest Asspulls in Shonen
Can i get some context? Is he just using some kind of bullshit respawn spell no one's ever heard of until this point, or what? i dont keep up with long shounen series
It's not an asspull. Hisoka used Texture Surprise to construct his heart, lungs and blood vessels anew. You gotta read a manga carefully not just look at the pictures.
>2016
>CLASSIC
Guess HxH is just that legendary
It's Avdol coming back to life in Stardust Crusaders. You can deny it all you want, but it's the truth.
>Caring about best character in a mediocre series getting a asspull when his opponent was asspull incarnate.
Fuck off just Chrollos powers and stacked up are stupid and unlikable as fuck only edge teenagers enjoy characters with so much unbalanced shit they don't even have to really think compared to their opposition.
Cell did it first, Huntertards
he died again like 30 chapters later so it's not that bad honestly
O, MY RUBBER NEN!
>implying YES I AM wasn't worth the asspull
The Hyperbolic Time Chamber
Aaaaaaaaaand series ruined.
Do not pass go
Do not move the plot forward
Go directly to filler
Gold experience requiem. Araki couldn't think of a way to beat KC
Everything Giorno did was an asspull
Not really, the whole series revolves around different dimensions and even traveling to other planets. This isn’t an asspull at all since it could exist in that world.
he knew he was about to die, so he used his ability (bungee gum=elastic aura) to move his arms and restart his heart
Every character in HxH has usually just a couple powers that they use in creative ways to outwit each other and win fights. This guy's main power can make a material which acts as both rubber and Gum. He can do shit like hold things together with it, or shield with it, it's crazy flexible in other ways too though, like faking a tattoo by making the appearance look like the tattoo and just sticking it as gum to his back. Basically, this asspull was essentially that he made himself a new heart and lungs out of this material, but even he died eventually anyway, so we don't know if it's something that would have worked forever or just a temporary work-around to keep him alive for the time being.
>proper setup and foreshadowing
>immediate delivery of the result
>logical and medically accurate resuscitation
Keep seething
>giving away your weak point
It is an asspull on the fact that it was always there, easily accessible, but never used nor mentioned before. Eve when there were world-ending threats.
SEVEN (7)
Goku being an ayyyyy lmao was a pretty bad
>t. doesn't understand how the Requiem arrow works
He didn't construct them anew. All he did was have his Gum pump his heart and lungs since he ended up dying of suffocation.
If one's gonna pick anything from HxH to be an asspull, then Nanika is definitely the one to go with.
O MY GOD KILLING SWORD
>dubs of truth
This
This moment right here
Try again, brainlet speedreader.
As for asspulls
>Nanika
>Everything in Naruto Shippuden
>Everything in Bleach
>7 Quirks
>Hiei's power boost in the Dark Tournament and beyond
>Ash losing vs the ow the edge
>hey, you know how the saiyans are coming, and everyone is at risk of dying?
>Well, you're training up here on the lookout, but the hyperbolic time chamber is....out of order
>hey, you know how we have 1 year until the androids arrive, and we only know this because of trunks?
>the hyperbolic time chamber is...out of order. Go shoot kamehamehas at the ocean or something.
So did he really die or not???
O, MY DWARF HERITAGE...!!
AFTER I'M DEAD...
COME BACK TO LIFE!!!
ALONG WITH MY FORK!!!
AND KNIFE!!!
He died. It's just his nen remained after he died and restarted his heart, just as Hisoka told it to.
Yu-gi-oh! Arc-V turned to utter shit.
Literally every kill Goku has gotten with the Genki Dama. Yeah, lets just ignore the fact that Goku would be too thrashed to deliver the killing blow if he weren't "borrowing" energy from the entire universe. Actually, now that I think about it, Super Saiyan is an asspull, too, because it just magically multiplies strength.
What the fuck was this?
>SS is an asspull cuz it magically multiplies strengh
OH NO NO NO NO NO NO
That makes no sense.
He could have done it when he was "alive"
I mean, what defines death?
His heart probably only stopped for a second.
Is that enough to be called dead?
It's pretty stupid if you ask me.
Stop making up shit, he never made himself a new heart or lungs, literally all he did was use his rubber nen to contract and expand around his heart and lungs, making something like a CPR
Nen itself was a complete asspull that was clearly retconned into the story given by how it didn't mesh with what we saw before its introduction
If it makes you feel any better, Kaio-Ken was the original asspull.
youtu.be
>He's got me, what do I do?
>Kaio-Ken.... TIME FOUR
Actually, no, senzu beans were the original asspul. No, wait, it was the dragon balls. FUCK.
Possibly some of the most aggressive plot armor I've ever been a witness too in a story. Completely and utterly bullshit, there is no bigger asspull than this dudes entire character. Anyone who has read the manga will know.
Obito coming from the spirit world and giving Kakashi his sharingan its the greatest Naruto asspull ever.
Believing fictional stories was THE original asspull. Checkmate atheists.
Stop with this shitty page god fucking damnit
It's not an asspull and it's not memorable
>Akira Toriyama
he isn't a genius, is he?
Oh man, I hated this nigger. He literally had to have all stops pulled out to guarantee his survival till the climax. Like when Mimura couldn't make the shot after surviving having his guts pulled out. And OH MY INVINCIBLE AND INDESTRUCTIBLE BULLET PROOF VEST. Fuck Kiriyama.
Did Kakashi ever went on his rampage?
the author literally had to make him job at the end for the MC's to possibly win, when he got up from getting shot in the head I was done with this fucking cunt.
bullshit, novel Kiriyama was far better.
The rabbit hole goes even deeper.
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How many more asspulls are there in this fucking series?
>durr Goku can teleport now
Nope.
Naruto friendship with Sasuke was the biggest ass pull.
It was never shown they really cared about each other before their fight.
Naruto just had a one-sided man crush.
It wouldn't have been so bad if Mimura didn't have the smarts to build a bomb and the author had to scramble for a way to get him out of the picture.
>Goku can pinpoint exact ki across the entire galaxy
This is some god-tier skill right here. Not even Beerus can do it
no, but he does draw cool robots and monsters, so at least he has that going for him. Akira Toriyama should stick to just drawing because he can't write for shit. He's the original Oh! Great.
>Goku just arrived on Namek and time is of the essence
>Goku can read Krillin's mind by touching his head
He's a talented illustrator, for sure. His style is without a doubt one of the most recognisable and influential in all of manga.
This happened in 2016? That was what 30 chapters ago?
>Goku can shrink his Ki to jobber status so the bad guys can't find him and snipe his ass while he's preparing.
ITT: People who don't know what asspull means
A-are you retarded?
He did it when it was alive.
He felt he was going to die because Chrollo strategy overwhelmed him, so when still alive he set up his nen to act as a defibrillator after his death and restart his heart. Not instantly, it took some minutes/hours to start: he didn't "died for a minute", it was enough time to finish the fight and bringe is corpse in a room to clean it
It was an asspull because although it was established before that nen can work after death, it usually happen if the user hold a strong grudge.
And hisoka was simply "whipsie I'm gonna die, better think of something quickly"
Oh definitely, probably the most emotional point in the entire manga and had me borderline raging at how bullshit it was. Think about it, Mimura would have literally succeeded in blowing up the school if not for Kazuo.
An asspull is completely unexplained story element that comes out of nowhere. A guy is fighting a dragon when you summons the almighty Kumar the legendary warrior by chanting the magic words. This is an asspull because summoning isnt even in this series its a story element from nowhere with no explanation that is meant to solve a plot dilemma.
O MY INHERITED SHIKAI
Its genuinely pretty hard to actually put the Madara stuff as asspulls. Its foreshadowed how crazy powerful the dude actually is.
Kazuo just had the most unbelivable propensity of always being in the right place at the wrong time. And the author (especially in the book) went to great lengths to make Mim seem like the hero, even though everyone knew Shuya was the real hero. He should've just gone another way with Mim, instead of having ole Diabolous Ex Machina, Kazuo Kiriyama running around.
I mean true, but I was referring to how every single battle, he pulls out ANOTHER new power from his ass.
Madara was so powerful, and Hashirama such a dumb shithead weakling, it was incomprehensible that they ever could have been rivals. Even before all the bullshit, when he was just going massacre mode on the Allied Fodder army, he just seemed utterly out of Woodman Retards league.
>shit, I need to find a pure soul to turn into a sword right now, or this monster will eat me.
>ohheytheresone
That was such bs even Toriyama knew to acknowledge that fact then and there. Krillin asks what the fuck, Goku goes "lmao I don't know" and it's never brought up again, not even in Super that had a lot of other gravedigging.
Didn't we already have this thread last week?
The context was Hisoka played possum to let a fight end. He imbued his powers with so much will that it activates basic CPR long after he died. He also made a prosthetic leg and nose, and he proceed to kick ass seemingly without need to adjust.
This schtick made such glaring elementary biomedical errors it became the favourite meme for channers to poke fun at HxH for trying to be a thinking man's series.
Just imagined Mr Popo refusing to let them use the chamber with TFS voice, lol.
Is Attack on Titan still a Shonen? Anyway this was the biggest asspull of the arc.
I like JBA
But this shit was retarded
You have a point. I think Hisoka's asspull became the focus because it was the last straw on the camel's back for HxH readers whose frustration was building through the previous arc
How is SnK in general though, worth reading? The generals always turned me off from picking this up
That is dumb because Hashirama's mokuton constructs are invencible. They are so strong that his Several Thousand Hands Bhuda shatered a perfect susanoo and knocked the Kyubi, the strongest bijuu. Besides that, they explode. absorve chakra and supress it, and are resistant to brute force and fire. And Hashirama also had regeneration on par with Cell, beyond humongous chakra reserves. Teh man was as much of a beast.
Reiner Braun from Titan which will be animated in April. It’s the best arc animated yet but it has some asspulls. Basically Titan Shifters can survive almost anything. He survives pic related as well.
Tobirama with prep time could devise a jutsu to kill both those niggers.
>O My Rubber asspull
>Gon giving himself a time skip
>Killua's brother
To be fair TrashxTrash is filled with retarded asspulls.
It’s my favorite manga of all time despite some minor flaws it’s actually really fucking good. If you like the anime you will love the manga. Everything before chapter 50 is more or less the same with meh art (s1-s2) but I suggest reading from chapter 51 because season 3 p1 changed a lot and rushed too fast. Levi for example strangled Historia to force her to become Queen instead of her randomly accepting.
The Basement COMPLETELY changed the story and almost everyone agrees it’s for the better.
Hr never demonstrated any of this shit in either of his appearances. Minato and Tobirama and even that shitter Sarutobi all came off as much more impressive.
This series became trash after the OfA v All Might fight
I think it was all too convenient as well. But immediately after that Jotaro proceed to give Dio a deep, satisfying beat down. The punchline: "You've made one fatal mistake, only one mistake: you really pissed me off" was cheesy as he'll but endearing. All in all an ending to a fight the readers deserved.
Compare to "O my rubber nen". We got Hisoka'a corpse ignoring medical nuances to ressurect with basic CPR. And here's where Togashi really just jerked us around: he made a perfectly functional prosthetic limb for himself - so why even bother getting Maki to see his arms back previously? Hisoka then went on to kill a couple of Spiders to start a cat and mouse game and we just felt: meh.
I forgot to add that I only finished Season 2, did they skip important stuff in the first two seasons? And thank you, I think i will start reading the manga from where the anime left off.
this last sentence is what defines an asspull
>its a story element from nowhere with no explanation that is meant to solve a plot dilemma
an autor has to properly foreshadow and set the bases of it's power/world system to avoid this kind of shit
take for example the Super Saiyan transformation (which some ironic retards claim to be an asspull): we learnt about saiyans when Raditz came to earth and we were told Goku was one. This didn't came out of nowhere: Dragon Ball had already set up magic monsters and outer beings, and takes this as an opportunity to explain Piccollo, thus explaining he is also an ayy lmao.
Later we hear about the Legendary SS: what is it? how is it? how do we get to it? This thing kept being hyped the fuck up until we reach the point where Goku finally transforms and we see a Super Saiyan. This (again), doesn't come from nowhere, since we already had all the bases and knoledge for it to happen, all that was left was to see it.
Modern shonen autors seem to fail in this sometimes in order to avoid being predictable, it's like they lack the art of foreshadowing of proper world-building. Take One Piece for example, Oda tried in some situations to take the time and explains as much as possible to powers of the Devils Fruit and showcasing some examples, while leaving place for exeptions and mysteries unresolved such as weilding two powers at the same time.
HxH also does this by showing how Nen works after death and how versatile Hisoka's bungee gum is, so it doesn't seem as an asspull.
Charmy's dwarf genetics also isn't an asspull, since it's power and the "beast within" was something we were teased about early in the story, and since we already knew about grimoires with two magic atributes (see Morris' experiments and Mars) and other races, dwarves were not something impossible to think and foresee.
tl;dr: learn what an asspull means you bunch of retards
T. All of dragonball
It's good. Be prepared to suffer some really eyesore character art for the first several chapters though.
Thank god for the basement. The arc before it was just so slow and dull I was beginning to fear Isayama would never show the basement like Oda with the void century.
I think they removed some small dialogue parts and an Annie training scene with Eren. I agree with your that our generals are cancer but if you can’t wait for the next season in April than i definately suggest reading it.
What was worse, this or GER?
Bro you can type and chew semantics all day long but the only way for Togashi to live this down is to
1) wait patiently or
2) produce a new scene so impressive to our collective minds that we can leave O My Rubber Nen well and truly behind.
Given Togashi's work rate though, he's probably gone with option 1)
Yeah, but his battle in the past showed that he fought Madara to a draw. If they fighted again in the present, Naruto and sasuke would have zero importance.
nigga how tf do I explain to you, if you read the manga it's completely fucking reasonable
I geniunely believe anyone who think rubber nen was an asspull should hang from a tree
Remember when Karma Houdini??? Orochimaru! Remember when Orochimaru fucking summoned the first and the second and they got spanked by monkey boy to show that the he wasn't garbage, and then later on they talk up the two of them like they are basically gods and it makes that scene seem really silly in retrospect. Even at a 1/3 of their power they should have shitted on Sarutobi.
at its worst, rubber nen was contrived, but it certainly wasn’t an asspull, what with togashi hammering in that nen is stronger after death.
i will admit it lowers the stakes a bit for the main five, though
GER
Hisoka's rubber nen trick was somewhat plausible assuming his brain wasn't dead for long
GER and the final battle with Diavolo was one big battle for the I win button.
>wood is teh strongest because fuck you lmao
Yup, confirmed asspull.
Kaioken was originally a pretty cool idea. It's a risky move with a lot of blowback that gives him a second or two tops to leverage the advantage. It's not til Namek where he's using it seemingly without consequence.
ok, thanks user!
It was just pretty fucking stupid.
>DIO can stop time for 9s as far as he knows
>Jotaro is at about 2s but might squeeze a little extra out
>so DIO stops time and just lets Jotaro lie there, in no danger at all, for 7 seconds
Like, what the fuck? Really? Are we meant to believe DIO just failed the most absurdly basic maths?
i love jjba but damn there are so many asspulls
Don't take it up with me bro, I'm not the user going around making O My Rubber Men threads. I was just describing to you how O My Rubber Nen may eventually pass, or not.
biggest jjba asspull is part 5 obviously
it was never established before in the manga that humans are able to fit their ear inside their heads.
Emma surviving Lewis double penetration.
Emma wanting to defend demons
Emma surviving yet again in the future.
my bad, hope Togashi finally delivers, the lazy fuck
This in itself was fairly reasonable but him dying that way in general is ridiculous.
What happens if Vegeta learns the Kaioken?
>produce a new scene so impressive to our collective minds that we can leave O My Rubber Nen well and truly behind
You have to realize that people who read HxH are a minority on Yea Forums. Most of the posters here don't care if he makes something amazing, and will still use O MY RUBBER NEN to shit on HxH whenever it's brought up.
The entire point was that the climax was an asspull, Joseph literally admits as such. Now Dio vs Jotaro on the other hand, is completely fucking inexcusable.
No harm done, my opinion is to just sit back and see where memes take themselves. I mean, if it weren't for mangastream's O My... tranalation, who knows how this meme might has turned out
>Yea Forums reads gook shit
>i love jjba but damn there are so many asspulls
every fight in jjba ends in an asspull based on some scientific fact Araki randomly researched
Roshi did the same thing in DB desu. He didn't even have to touch though.
speaking of, how about Roshi being strong enough to destroy the moon, but weaker than King Piccolo?
The biggest asspull in JJBA is Polnareff shooting the sword out of the hilt of Silver Chariot to kill Chakka in the Anubis arc, it is an asspull of the strictest degree with no foreshadowing that instantly killed him.
This meme again.
Goku literally killed only Buu with the Spirit Bomb and it required the power of the universe to back him up to do it. What do you mean by "every time?"
that was explained when he had it. I think the bigger one was then jotaro can movie in THE WORLD.
Well, Jotaro suddenly becoming immune to ZA WARUDO certainly ranks very high in the list of JJBA's asspulls.
Kinda want to say something about Hitman Reborn, but I can't be bothered to remember
I like how Araki just gives stands random traits that were never foreshadowed
>O MY KILLER QUEEN'S SECRET COMPARTMENT
for what purpose?
GER is not an asspull. It's the son of God throwing the Devil into the lake of fire.
First, he does not write the same fight twice. Second, he plays around with Stands as a concept in every part. Third, and people like to deny it, but rule of cool.
Speaking of oda
>TOKI TOKI NO ASSPULL
Also
>O MY SEVEN QUIRKS
I understand exactly what Araki was going for and how the one with the arrow would be the winner, but GER being a direct counter to KC (well to everything) and the actual fight being very short would make me pick O My Rubber Nen over it in terms of writing
Ippo vs Woli
Miyata vs RBJ
Takamura vs whoever he used his big toe to win against
Yep, that was ridiculous
Whats weird about this is that Saiyans already had a way to get insanely stronger in a very short period of time: the Zenkai boost. Which Cell later benefits from anyway.
And its not like Piccolo really got anything by using the HTC, so its inclusion probably isn't for the sake of allowing other characters to get a big boost in power.
I can only then assume that it exists purely for the sake of Gohan learning Super Saiyan.
The properties of his "rubber and cum" nen are completely irrelevant. He was just telling his nen to revive his heart and lungs. It's makes sense that Hisoka could do at least this much because we've seen another character use their nen to reanimate their headless body to fight for a minute or so despite being 100% dead.
Don't some people believe that the original reason Jotaro finds out he has Time Stop was because DIO's stand would have just had the power of ALL stands? And when he started using an ability that the crew has never fought before, Jotaro would realize that it was HIS ability?
I really hate how Nighteye was wrapped up in one arc. Now the story is stuck between a rock and hard place with All Might. If All Might dies, we get a hollow conclusion because Deku will never really make up for failing to change that future, with no other predictions to disprove. If All Might lives, then no shit of course he does, we already know Deku can change the future.
what are you even saying
It's always been foreshadowed, ever since the prison scene.
What, the reason SP is so fast is because it's subconsciously stopping time?
remember when goku blew cells head and upper body off but he restored anyways
gg toriyama
Which one? Armin still being barely alive or him getting healed? Can teetering on the edge of death really qualify as an asspull?
The Gears are asspulls because Oda gave no indication that Luffy could even do those things before the Blueno fight.
If only Luffy had mentioned something about blood circulation it would hint to Gear 2 and if he imagined himself with huge arms it would hint to Gear 3.
Zenkai was the only way for Dumbku to beat the Ginyu Force and Frieza in a short time.
>Gum Gum Cannon
>Gum Gum Air Balloon
This one will never not piss me off.
Theres a theory that the worlds original ability was to have all currently alive Joestars abilities but better.that would explain the hermit purple and the "is the same type of stand" thing(it would also explain why his time stop is so much better compared to jotaros).
>they know they have a month before vegeta shows up
>somehow no one mentions this unlimited time bubble.
Ok Jim
Somehow being dead for 30 minutes or more doesn't cause severe brain damage and using nen limbs doesn't exhaust his stamina at all.
That shit went nowhere anyway. Not that any remembers.
Posting Bleach last arc is cheating.
He moved his core to his lower part before being blown off
>poke fun at HxH for trying to be a thinking man's series.
Too bad it happened huh?
>If only Luffy had mentioned something about blood circulation it would hint to Gear 2 and if he imagined himself with huge arms it would hint to Gear 3.
That would be retarded. Luffy doesn't need to think about being a stretchy man.
Yes and no, it's not necessary for it to be unexplained, what is unknown is how the character managed to do it/obtain it. For example we saw teleportation and qi detecting in DB but it was never explained how he got them. Another sets of examples in modern literature is pretty much how Harry Potter defeat every major villain.
>o my rune magic, o my legendary sword, o my time travel shit
Current media are full of asspulls.
O MY BURNING INNER STRENGTH
Came here to post this.
The main issue is that a lot of these authors/writers are taking advantage of the reader's tendency to put things together, so very early on they just add weird and vague things happen to the MC or vague descriptions to a characters abilities. Think of a fortune teller giving you bullshit like "you're gonna have a very good day soon".
Then when they need to they use the asspull, and depending on how it's written you either have to question whether or not it is an asspull since it's not clear or you think that the author planned everything for years
>LOGICAL AND MEDICALLY ACCURATE
Hunterfaggotry on a whole nother level right here
Holy shit I've cracked the code. Huntercucks shitpost other threads, because they feel insecure about their own asspull tastic series.
Name one (1) asspull in HxH
This is not an instant DQ.
this
O MY EAR GUNK
O MY ELECTRICITY INSULATING SHOES
O MY DEMON HERITAGE
SP is "stopping time" by the end because his and by extension Jotaro's maximum awareness and speed is accelerating towards infinity as the stand grew, and when they clench their assholes and flex that focus real hard, everything looks frozen in comparison.
oh my *shuffles deck* every single way I win any fight
>Gets heart destroyed by guy who's damage can't be reversed
>ignores it and reverses it anyways
Fucking hell.
Not an asspull. It's was mentioned like 100 chapter ago
That's pretty much the point of medaka box, nisio just don't giving a fuck and making shit up as the plot goes on
but just like how Hisoka's nen could stick to him and move his limbs, Pitou's nen attached strings to it and move its body like a puppet. I don't see Gon or Killua doing something like that.
Does this count as asspull?
at least YYH was charming. Can't say the same for Hunter.
O MY WORMHOLE
O MY VIRTUAL SELF
O MY QUANTUM ENTANGLEMENT
O MY BRAIN CHIP
O MY NANOMACHINES, SON
I know this is not really an asspull completely in any way and he spent 20 chapters making it make sense, but somehow it was so very disappointing. Toji deserved better
O MY RIZE/HIDE TULPA
O MY IMAGINATION
O MY MINDCONTROLLING PIERCINGS
O MY KAGUNE CLONE
O MY REINER-TIER KAKUJA
O MY SPIELDOSE
etc.
God, :RE was full of asspulls.
Not shounen but
>O MY AUTISTIC KID
One of the biggest asspulls in the series, right next to Gear Second
I dunno, using it as a defibrillator doesn't seem like an asspull.
If anything, somehow tuning his electrical powers into a fucking spear/trident is a greater asspull, if at all.
O,
And we all knew it would ruin the franchise.
>O MY SEVEN ASSPULL NO JUTSU
>people scream at O MY RUBBER NEN
>when HACKODA did the same thing but acually x10 worse than togashi
what the fuck?
MY
OCEAN DREAM
The power of the Dick compelled him to be alive.
>death note
>not shounen
user?
Not really, when we were reading slam dunk, there was always this expectation that Sakuragi can still save the day because he was emphasised repeatedly (ad nauseam) to be a one-in-a-decade specimen. It makes for lazier game breakers, but you couldn't accuse Inoue of betraying our expectations
Oda had the decency to give us two entire arcs to adjust (amazon lily and impel down) before moving forward with it.
That's right, I'm not counting Skypiea because mantra was retconned to be part of haki - accept it.
He is simply tried it and why he didnt before well its luffy
Not really, Picollo did it first and it wasn't really an asspull considering everyone with that power explained it non stop.
YYH ending of the Chapter Black arc has like 5-6 asspulls that make this look tame in comparison
>not even the biggest asspull in Skypeia
That was foreshadowed though. They literally say ofa stockpiles power
I fucking hated it but with all the bullshit he pulled he might as well have won the game instead of dying like that.
Wasn't this the set up to the whole series? I don't think it counts if it happens in the first Ep.
Yea Forums does
We even have threads about it from time to time, which are allowed
You would know this, but I guess you are a newfag
Meant for
yeah, I wasn't mad about it, just thought it was convenient. you're right though, it isn't really much of an asspull.
Fails to explain no brain damage
Guy has absolute control over electricity. How is this an asspull? it makes perfect sense that he could do this.
O, MY SHARINGAN
O, MY SUMMONS
o my rubber nen is not even an asspull.
see pitou and the troupe not wanting to kill kurapika due to nen being strong after death
>who in their right mind would expect either of the two to permanently die
>in a deathmatch
>to the death
>which is only over when one of the two characters is dead
>but Togashi totally isn't a hack guys
...
it's soft seinen
Well, technically one of the two characters died
I can't for the love of God ever understand how people can even like YYH. It was such a garbage
Great manga, currently on its last arc so its a good time to pick it up.
They just added some erenxmikasa scenes in season 1 and skiped erenxarmin scenes because araki was a big EMshipper, but besides the annie eren final fight in season 1 and some scenes like ymir flashback or warriors killing marco which were shown earlier, the manga is very faithful.
The begining of season 3 is a rushfest though, the manga counterpart is infinitely superior.
So you choose. Start from the begining, or start from chapter 51 (where season 2 ends).
And forgot to add, thanks for araki being a EMshipper as I mentioned some of the erenxannie scenes that build up the confrontation in that arc are skipped.
But nothing major.
Dont touch the threads too, they are just shipperfags central thanks to a not yet revealed plot point that you will reach in chapter 107. Personally I only go there when the chapters are released (4th-8th day of the month)
Watch Araki skip "Mmngh" entirely or rewrite it like he did with season 3.
he was unconscious, I didn't knew devil fruits could be used without will (especially Logia).
Did you see the entire series? The last 2/3's of the series (sans the rushed, half-baked ending) are really good I feel. Toguro and sensui are really good villains and YYH has one of my favorite main casts in all of anime. Did you dislike the fun adventures of Yusuke and Kuwabara? The intrigue of Kurama and Hiei's pasts in the demon realm? The world of YYH being as fleshed out as it is, its above average characters, quality visual direction, etc makes it a cut above most shonen imo.
I did. Literally forced myself to read it all. Hated how bland and uninteresting it was. I don't know what Togashi was thinking honestly.
>hey let's make yet ANOTHER tournament arc
>almost every single fight is 1 on 1 that ends too quickly
Not to mention that fucking ending
>monsters are actually good guys
>everyone gets a ship
It was such a boring slugfest. Literally the only good part of that manga was 1st volume where he was a ghost helping people.
You didn't have much of a comment about the characters, did you feel strongly about them at all? Yusuke, Kuabara, Genkai, Yomi, Toguro- all breddy gud characters in my opinion.
Fairy Tail is shit in general anyway.
>did you feel strongly about them at all
Not really, though I don't think I disliked any of the main cast. Don't have much to say, they were decent and so were their motives. But just that wasn't enough to make me care about everything else
Pajeet mythology is chuuni as fuck, goddamn.
nah this ruled
Why isn't an on death contingency more common? Like surely someone might turn their nen into a bomb that kills their killer or some other type appropriate effect like manipulating your corpse to keep fighting.
>OH
>MY
>BRAIN FUNCTION
That's not how dying works, I can't just restart the heart of a cadaver and he is back from the dead.
wtf happens with SnK
Maybe you should first explain your own brain damage?
not an argument. Togashit is a hack and so are you for swallowing his shit without questioning it.
I've seen people call this an asspull lately, especially comparing it to O MY RUBBER NEN. But it's nowhere near as egregious, because Enel literally gets beaten a volume later. That's why it never will catch on like O MY RUBBER NEN did, because it's only faults are unexplained devil fruit powers (which is not uncommon) and prolonging the arc until Luffy could defeat Enel.
It got really good after the basement reveal, but the return to shinganshina arc while being very good had a bunch of asspulls with reiner and armong
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA BTFO
this
kek
kek, based hunterchad
Its actually a really good manga desu, that is why the two asspulls it has stand out a lot
im not togashi so i can’t say, but i imagine that quite a lot of people don’t enjoy concieving of an outcome in which they die.
pitou was okay with it if it meant she could protect the king, hence her after death nen stuff. maybe its hard to do or something of the like.
Why does Yea Forums hate it then?
>Yea Forums hivemind
Anyways I never saw Yea Forums hate snk, just the threads for being utter garbag, the general opinion about the manga is usually possitive here.
>samefagging this hard
>replying to your own unfunny ad hominem to make it seem funny
Is this all "hunterchads" are capable of?
What is HTML?
This fight. This fight right here is the very essence of why bleach is such a fucking wild and enjoyable ride.
Askin (the lanky aizen looking dude) has the ability to calculate the absolute lethal dose of any substance he consumes, including reiatsu. This means that if you attack him with your reiatsu he can simply lower it's dosage, not die from it and he gains FULL IMMUNITY TO IT. You do one attack on this sticc and he's essentially immortal.
Then Yoruichi comes around, the thicc sexy delicious brown catgirl that has been around from the very beginning. She goes into this electricity cat mode and gives her the ability of changing her reiatsu 48 times per seconds simply because "cats are fickle". Out of nowhere, an established characters just shows up with the biggest, most obscure counter to an already obscure ability. Because she changes her reiatsu so fast he can't gain immunity to it.
So what does Askin do? Well what else other than going into his angel form, allowing him to automatically adapt to changes in poison as long as the base poison remains the same. This means that although Yoruichi changes her Reiatsu 48 times per second, the "base" reiatsu is still the same, so he's invincible again. His ultimate form is an obscure and unecessary counter to an obscure counter to an obscure ability. He's actually invincible now. You cannot harm him with any more attacks. Urahara, Ichigo's sensei pops his bankai but even that doesn't do shit.
How does Kubo solve this conundrum he created? How do you defeat the undefeatable after asspulling counters after counters to his ability?
It's simple. Fucking GRIMMJOW shows up out of nowhere after being """dead""" for 200+ chapters and rips his heart out and kills him. Just like that.
I will forever treasure the wild threads during the last fights of bleach. Kubo just went fucking nuclear before fizzling out. Easily and I mean EASILY the biggest asspull i've ever seen.
>Yea Forums hating snk
What? did you make that judment after you saw one retard hating it?
>last posts 5 seconds apart
Just take the L, nut scratcher.
Look at the timestamp, newfags
Not even the biggest asspull from Erza.
(maybe Top 5)
At least Hisoka ‘died’ from something like suffocation before giving himself bootleg CPR. You can still survive if you’re resuscitated five or so minutes after, I believe.
I never read Bleach but I remember that Grimjow being alive was foreshadowed much earlier
>2+ minutes between posts
So? He waited a little bit before samefagging?
2/10 bait
Look at the two last posts, you subhuman brainlet.
It was kinda foreshadowed since we never saw his corpse (holy rule of shonen) and a couple chapters before we saw a silhouette that could potentially be him.
It was so fucking dumb though holy fuck
>someone took his time to write this
>this is not bait
hxh fags, everyone
seething hunterfag
Why are VA haters ALWAYS speedreaders with peanut IQ
>53:34
>55:19
Sorry, only 105 seconds, not 2 minutes. Your point?
same thing with Dio in SDC, and Kira in part 4.
He knows how to make powerful villains but doesn't know how to get them killed without a retarded asspull
Wait what? Does Deku seriously obtain fucking King Crimson Epitaph powers?
5 seconds you subhuman brainlet
What's the point of shit like this where even the most egregious wounds carry no actual stakes?
>All might had a sidekick
>Deku goes to work for sidekick
>Sidekick's power lets him see the future
>Sidekick see that shit goes bad. uh oh
>Shit doesnt go bad after all
>Sidekick starts talking on his deathbed "ohh deku your willpower, your wishing power changed the future."
>Sidekick fucking dies just as fast as he came
>Deku now har 7 different powers
Dunno man, Zaraki vs Gremmy for me was just the worst. Dont get me wrong, Askin fight was bullshit indeed, but Zaraki vs Gremmy conclusion man... its just sad...
No shit, sherlock.
I never claimed the "kek" post without the image was a samefag, retard. But it could easily be the same guy phoeposting, this would also explain the lack of an image
>inb4 "you did"
Nope, I'm
We didn't know that he'd be fine at that point.
How the hell is Supreme King Zarc an asspull? Late Arc-V is garbage but the soul combination shit was foreshadowed ever since more than one Yuya was on screen.
nice backpedalling now, you admit defeat subhuman brainlet
>there is only one HxH fan in the whole of Yea Forums
snk is not hated here wtf are you on
We play the music and you dance for our amusement. Come on, little puppet. DANCE, DANCE!!
Nope
Never said that
All those last few fights are so fucking great. Gerard especially with constant new powerups for the protagonists yet they couldn't even scratch him. Kenpachi bankai, "who said my bankai ends when the petals melt" and byakuya jobbing was just fantastic.
SnK is really just a directionless trash manga that keeps jumping the shark with irrelevant plot twists to keep the fujos and whales talking about it.
If they know that the arrow possessor will be the winner then how is it an asspull
>Worrying about brain damage in fiction, where consciousness is nearly universally tied to the cartesian soul
I mean, Kite's rebirth into anthood and other such examples are already established.
>buzzword galore, the post
ok cool
Based.
>directionless
It started with eren's search for freedom, and its ending with eren's search for freedom
>trash
buzzword
>that keeps jumping the shark
another buzzword
>with irrelevant plotwists
such as?
>to keep the fujos and whales talking about it
yes, I bet killing erwin and crippling if not killing the manlet are twists to keep the fujos and whales talking about it.
I do not think Yea Forums hates SnK. Sure there are problems with it, but here any manga / anime will have haters (and they are not always wrong). If you log in every day you will see at least one thread of SnK, One Piece and BnH discussions on the first two pages. Most more positive than negative, or at least they are the most active on the board. What I see is that Yea Forums has criticized more BnH recently than SnK because of the 7 Quirks thing.
And is almost a consensus here that Fairy Tail is trash.
>shitting on something you obviously don't even read because its popular
Yea Forums doesn't hate SnK, I keep hearing good things about it. But it is true that Yea Forums hates SnK threads and the fandom because its full of fujos and shipperfags.
When you grow up you will realize how childish you are for shitting something you don't know shit about just because its popular
specially fujos migrating there after the tumblr porn ban. Threads were bad before but now they are unbearable. You can't differentiate between the ironic "GODVI" shitposters and the real ones
Ah, the Tumblr Diaspora. I thought they'd migrated to Newgrounds. Do we have any refugees between us?
Madara was weaker than Woodman, people forget that Edo Madara was an engineered Frankenstein monster to be more powerful than his peak.
Edo Madara > Hashirama > Real Madara
He's literally the strongest, but the dumbest.
>O MY COMMON SENSE
Anything that involves "eating away at /halving the user's lifespan"; I would love to meet the hack that first thought of this inconsequential bullshit "consequence" and tell him to make like a tree and get chopped in half
That reminds me, remember when Ichigo gave up his powers forever?
You're right. Everyone complains about muh rubber nen when Hisoka should be a vegetable regardless if his lungs and heart work.
And then aliens.
Star platinum:the world
en.wikipedia.org
You faggots are the ones suffering from irreparable brain damage. Shit like this happens all the time, in many cases up to several hours of no heart activity and not several mins like with Hisoka. None of the patients involved in this phenomena received such brain damage that it impeded of their daily functionality.
high IQ post
Why did he specifically mention his heart and lungs?
>needs to jumpstart himself back to life
>what will he chose to concentrate on
what was he supposed to massage, his balls and cock?
You are getting worked up over a joke that anyone can see without even reading the manga.
In a comedy series.
You can't reanimate dead bodies by pumping their hearts long after the brain is dead. People don't even remember why OMRN is an asspull.
Erza is the asspull. Worst character is manga history.
>Natsu! You gotta turn into an awesome dragon or you will turn into an awesome demon!
>Na, I am human
>That is exactly the right answer! Congratulations Natsu!
>after the brain is dead
And where pray tell does Hisoka receive a brain scan that says his brain activity is dead?
Good thing Hisoka was dead for five minutes, as far as we know.
He only fell over
defibrillators can't actually restart hearts you know
Not even a asspull
Neither is this
Yeah, well i wanted to see Natsu as a dragon and I am let down forever.
>Shit like this happens all the time
Read the Wikipedia page you faggot
>Occurrences of the syndrome are extremely rare, and the causes are not well understood.
you can chalk this up to Dio's hubris and sadism.
Also, keep in mind that Dio had to find a way to kill Jotaro without being within ~10 feet of him, because jotaro could fight back within that range.
Dio had already used up his knives so his options of throwing shit at jotaro again were limited. In the end he found a roadroller to crush jotaro with.
What would you have done instead?
Why didn't he use his vampire lasers.
jotaro would have used his 2 seconds of movement to dodge or deflect them
>knew the faggot would stick to the wiki instead of googling it
The wiki page is only there to give you an overview. YES, this shit happens quite often according to newer inquiry. In one particular case the person was dead for over 10 hours. In one case this happened several times to the same person, who remained dead once for a whole fucking day.
medicalnewstoday.com
>low number of report cases might highlight the rarity of Lazarus syndrome, scientists believe that it is much more common than studies suggest
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
>it is probably under reported. There is no doubt that Lazarus phenomenon is a reality but so far the scientific explanations have been inadequate
Shut the fuck up and lurk more.
O
It might happened in the 100 year quest
the equivalent of seeing your dying dog becoming healthy for a week, then dying one day without explanation.
based togashi incorporating latest scientific discoveries in his plotlines, how can other mangaka even compete
Thanks for replying, and providing some articles.
But one scientist saying it’s underreported and an article that looks through more than 14000 articles and finding 38 successes doesn’t really prove that Lazarus syndrome is common enough that it can be called it happens all the time
Also 45% of those individuals not having nuerological issues due to being essentially dead makes the already really luck hisoka more rare.
Him surviving the burns and the 40m fall. This really pissed me off in 2016 but the Basement and arcs after it healed me.
MY
>After almost dying after getting smashed by a plane and falling down the Grand Canyon, my body became too crippled to fight again. So I trained this half robot half superman (not cyborg) to murder you with his bear claws.
>LOL NVM IM FIGHTING A FISH DUDE NOW
I love Kinnikuman but holy shit this series is king of retcons and bullshit pulls.
>Become vegetable from serious injury
>It's okay some doctor fixed it. Everyone's favorite is back! Also watch my spinoff!
This post is both, based and nenpilled.
>Fuck I'm dying. Better revive everyone else with my insane power level!
There's so many revivals from the dead in this series too. It's hard to feel emotional about anyone's death when you know they'll be back next arc.
he didn't survive a 40 meter fall, it was only like 10 meters. the 3dm gear is designed to snap off when over extended for pilot safety, which you can see in the manga. It was at full extension which is like 40 meters, and the building was like 2 stories so more likely he only fell like 10-15 meters.
He used the heat from the electricity to basically arc weld the gold into a weapon. Ridiculous cartoon physics? Yes. Reasonable and makes sense? Also yes.
Askin had such a broken ability. Honestly all of the Quincy had stupidly broken abilities. Like Pernida, and the literally unkillable Gerard. Who was that one asshole with the gun? The unblockable gun?
He was?
Miracles
>Your face heals things. Since when? Always you stupid asshole
Yeah and rubber melts if it's blasted with enough electricity. So magic rubber and magic electricity. The rules are different chief.
When Nail or Piccolo rezzed, their ki dropped like stones. Why in the fuck would Cell go in the opposite direction.
>nani the fuck, he was a mere strand of grass in my hands, and suddenly the cool music starts and he's back, stronger, like teh FENIX HOLY SHIT WOOOOWWWWW
The asspull wasn't the power, but his oponents becoming DSP at the moment they met.
O MY VOLT ARMOR
Saiyan blood. He gets a zenkai when he recovers from near death.
That's a lot of Saint Seiya fights, isn't it?
>Shit I'm losing... but I really like Athena.
>POWER BOOST
Guy, many of the Quincy abilites could be beaten. Hell, they even pointed out that Quincy get super cancer from Hollow spirit energy.
Why do you think they took Arrancar zanpakutous? Why do you think they took over Hueco Mundo first?
>waah Togashi didn't cater to my whims
>hack hack hack hack
weirdest thing to whine about
>seething huntertard
>not an argument
user don’t you know based Togashi was just deconstructing death matches in shonen
Power and quirks aren't the same thing you inbred mongoloid.
>h-he was dead for a long time!
one chapter before his death and two before his revival. speedreaders outing themselves as per
How could the shounenfags possibly deny this piece of evidence?
Man, you have to admit that the Quincy were fucking broken. Look at Bazzard Black. Stupid name aside he was pretty outrageously powerful.
Quincy with access to their final form were established to be able to curb stomp a Captain Rank Soul Reaper with a Bankai in the Soul Society arc though.
>clearly retconned into the story given by how it didn't mesh with what we saw before its introduction
-Illumi throws needle at exam proctor, asks information of him and he tells Illumi - fits perfectly with what we see later of Manipulation types
-Hisoka left feeling blueballed and bloodthirsty after his confrontation with Kurapika and Leorio, Gon being a natural at Nen is able to sense this Ren
-Illumi holds his hand against Killua's head, Killua feels immense fear - more Ren bluffing for another natural at Nen.
-Netero notices Gon and Killua, decides to hit them intentionally with antagonistic Nen - more Ren bluffing.
-Examiners literally discuss Hisoka's bloodthirsty aura
Where's the asspull here?
Are people still butthurt about this