Why are isekai like this

why are isekai like this

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why not

I don't know but all my favorites have this trope and I love slave girls wish I could own one and treat her right

user just go to your local black market

>having a local black market
What country do you live in? I want to move there.

They dont sell kemonomimi.

>black market sells cat girls
where the fuck do you live user

I wish I could be in a healthy relationship with one where we are equals and I could admire her physical scars while mending her emotional ones.

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It's because self-insert beta faggots knew no one would love them. So all they could do is buy someone and brainwash them into "loving" their owner.

everyone wants a slave

I have a slavery fetish so I'm quite happy with this trend

But no one wants to deal with the issues of having a slave, hence the magic slave crests/collars/contracts.

Isekai idea:
>the loneley japnese salaryman is hit by the truck and finds himself in earky 19th century USA, reborn as a white person

that's it.

I don't want one, only poltards and beta males want that

holy shit

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I thought beating the girls into submission brutally is teh whole appeal of the concept?

i want the issues of a freed one and teaching them to trust and be a part of free human society. In a way I guess I want a daughter I can fuck.

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nobody want to be forced into slavery, that's why.

Not really

Teaching feelings brings up together japanese sensitivity and perversity at its purest. A game which allows you to mistreat and rape your 11 year old slave but which real aim is that you play to treat her well make her smile is japanese culture at its finest

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ok but i dont want to do any of this it sounds awful, I wouldn't mind garroting a person who did do this and fixing up their victim though.

For some people sure, but I mean the issues of them being disobedient in the first place, or the possibility of being betrayed later.

>I want a daughter I can fuck

There are lots of anime for you without that slavery substitute.

But its not as hot if she isn't wearing a slave collar
Or a womb seal at least

In the game she dies if you rape her, but if you give her enough headpats she'll fall in love with you and recover her health. Also if you treat her well but never fuck her after she's in love with you, she'll eventually rape you.

I see it's truely
>japanese culture at its finest

Which is somehow also Yea Forums culture in it's finest, then you think of it...

>she'll eventually rape you.
that doesn't make sense, why wouldn't she respect her caregiver's boundaries and just take the hint? Plenty of fish in the sea unless in the game you just have her couped up inside all day every day.

We really live in a society

So, about a 98% chance of MC never owning his own slave, then?

Because years of being a slave with a cruel master before being given to you, has left her slightly yandere.

She died from sandwich.

But since it's an isekai, he's gonna be the 2%

You also want a daughter you can fuck? Maybe its more common than I thought

So bad Raphtalia grew up so fast.

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You feed lolis pancakes you fucking monster.

Go back to redd!t, faggot

my biggest gripe is that slave magic is always super omnipotent and strong as fuck. Why wouldn't everyone abuse it to hell, I hate it and we just have to accept that super strong beastmen can be enslaved no problem because lolmagic

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real monster only feed lolis sugary stuff

They took my daughteru anime right away from me
and the bird loli sucks

>Slaves are just contractually-obligated waifus!
>Worse comes to worse, I can just treat them better or free them, showing how much nicer I am than everyone else! Then they'll have no choice but to love me!
Codependency isn't sexy. It's awkward, frustrating and way more effort than it's worth. Don't try to fill your void for meaningful relationships with slavery.

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Slavery is bad

Not only did they take her away but instead they put some onee-chan of hers with *tits* in order to make us bleed further

Because it's fucking great.

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They've got slave libya now, but it's kind of creepy. And they don't sell beast people, just Africa.

Every Isekai MC with slaves has an alignment ending with 'Evil'. Even in the best cases, the slaves are brainwashed into affection by stockholm syndrome.

>YFW when no Isekai about an reincarnated autistic Japanese teenager running around a fantasy world busting up slave markets, and freeing the slaves.

Dat age in which you start having daughterus. My first was Kurisu because I hated her asshole father and there it was, the slippery slope of needing a daughter you can fuck

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I would buy all the slaves and then give them freedom

It's the easiest way to introduce and develop a new character that will be all all over MC dick without too much thought. Just give a sob story and MC will be the kindest dude that have ever treated her.

I would conquer countries and convert them into democratic republics where slavery is outlawed. Those who would willingly succumb to my government would be treated in the best way possible, while those who resist would be violently slaughtered.

Please stop using freedom as a euphemism for your penis.

so you become the CIA?

Are you under the impression that slaves are competent enough to take care of themselves?

I think he means to be competent. Not that I would necessarily expect him to be.

[Clapping intensifies]

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I'd become The United Isekai of America.

Every country, you just have to be rich.

You don't get to bring friend.

Best trick is to make them think slave collars are cool so they study for an exam to earn them

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and/or Jewish

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Codependency is literally the core of love. And I don't care for slavery, and I especially don't care for isekai, but Yea Forums is very much into the business of filling voids left by meaningful relationships and I don't see how it's better or worse than anything else

He's a big emancipator

I've read a few manga where the Hero MC was betrayed by the princess and allowed a redo, and he always ends up buying a slave after throwing out his moral compass for the sake of edgy revenge obsession.

I don't think you understand what codependency is.

>owning other humans....
>...to get money for free...!
>IS THIS A CHEAT?

uh, because cute slave girls that are loyal to only you are awesome?

Not gonna lie, isekai got me into slave trainer games

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>loyal in 1 hour just because the master feed him some skewer
Yeah sure, maybe if they act like Pochi and Tama.

I'd much rather have a loyal pet than some clingy, smelly slave girl.

nobody wants ape people

Pets are smelly too though, at least you could order a slave girl to bathe herself.

UUUU

>not bathing her yourself

I'll make them loyal through vigorous dicking

Because it's a wish-fulfilment fantasy. I'd love to go to the local slave store to by myself a cat girl slave.

>murders five people in their sleep to steal their money and buy a sex slave

Defend this

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Because how else are bullied teens and pent-up salarymen deal with the oppresive lack of understanding, isolationist perspective and soul crushing work ethics of japanese society? By working to improve it instead of living up their power fantasies where they are the only thinking person, while everyone else aspires to be as much as their pet (the alternative being having the same presence and personality as a piece or furniture)?
Sorry, I meant to say BBOBIES AWSOME, ME LIKTO RAEP GIRLS

I'm not a hypocrite.

Sounds pretty based to me.

Now that's someone I can self insert as

>not being able to see a reflection of the sun on my burlap bag
why was i born to be such a fool

>treat her right
So sex is the second night, not the first?

>murderous, thieving bandits are people

No, the CIA only ruins countries

Someone was going to collect the bounties eventually, and the sooner they died the less likely others would get killed before then. He was helping other people while helping himself. The only thing not defensible was buying Roxanne before Sherry because now she doesn't know her place should be second.

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>choosing a pettanko womanlet over a fluffy tail fertility goddess

what a fag

I'd prefer to have someone smarter to help manage the harem and dungeon exploration. Roxanne is still useful, but her being first gave her too much influence over breaking the others.

Human slaves in manga turns me off but beast girl slaves are removed enough from reality to be enjoyable

I've read a couple of series where the MC is conflicted about owning a slave, and the slave girl likes the MC enough to just want to be by his side
But the author never explains why he wouldn't just release her and keep her as a party member

thenoveltemple.com/odino-sama/dbzar/chapter-29-fruit-of-the-tree-of-might/

Based and Melromacpilled

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I've seen the 'it's safer for her to be a slave' excuse but this only works for beastgirls

>acts as a bounty hunter
>collects bounties and improves society at the same time
>scores super premium ass at a discount price
>great art

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They were criminals and she's worth it even if they weren't.

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The issue is that he was in position to save woman from assault with impunity but did nothing because "he's not a hero and doesn't want to get involved with". That's peak japanese mentality right there and his character was settled below even the murderhobo category for me after that incident.

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The average MC would have reactions like that and then panic and change his mind about having sex with her. Not this one, and there is a great combination of elements present in this manga. If only the main story and writing was better it would be even greater, but the manga adaptation has helped with that too.

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hold on let me tell you about how many monsters I can AOE with one spell, about their levels, for dozen chapters straight in the most dead-boring possible way out there!

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This manga is a damn masterpiece
>mc doesn't pussyfoot arounds
>buys super hot slave and automatically dicks her
Why did it took so long for these fucking nips to just play it straight

It goes to shit straight after that and honestly - that's not a lot of space to even fuck up. This is like dancing on a small stool then getting distracted and making a wrong step.

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Slaves are the best, especially white girls (elves)

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Let him who is without sin cast the first stone

I'd like to see how the author would have written the sex scenes if he didn't skip them. I'd expect a similar style for every action the MC takes.

And spends plenty of time showing it, not just a few short pages or a fade to black.

>thought author was using the Raphtalia duel to have a convenient excuse to remove her slave crest
>Raphtalia immediately and voluntarily enslaves herself back to Naofumi again

Best girl confirmed

what's the name of this manga and are there any actual scens of the cute doggie girl getting the dick ?

How does one read isekai manga and not fap?

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slave labyrinth, actually yes it's manga original

Sauce?

Isekai Shihai no Skill Taker: Zero kara Hajimeru Dorei Harem

It's full page and first result, google or yandex it

/pol/ wants genocide, not slavery.

>That fucking look
Does he really fuck his girls in front of his other girls?

If you don't like it, make your own isekai.

based

i thought it was this

myanimelist.net/manga/106608/Isekai_Meikyuu_de_Harem_wo

Alpha males are statistically a minority in most species, high primates including. They also usually hoard all the females so 90% of males die without ever mating or leaving offspring.
I don't know how to weave slaves into it.

It's shit, mc doesn't love them he's just sex crazed and would rape them if they didn't submit.
Offer him some cowtitslaves and he'd kill off all the girls.

Doesn't matter, you should still read Skill Taker before Isekai Harem.

Neither does any other author, just have them go to the local 7/11 slavemart, where all slaves are magically obedient and the contract makes you think they are the best, no matter what.

She just things she was losing her place witht he kiss until he comes up with an excuse about the order being important. They all share a large bed, so sex includes all of them. We don't know details because it wasn't in the non-manga versions.

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Remember when isekai was still fresh, fun and done right?

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it is

>spoonfeeding when the original picture already includes author name, artist name, multiple replies mention character names, and is the first result on google reverse search

Stop enabling retards on Yea Forums

There are three possibilities of mind-control, neither should be available to humans.

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>reddit spacing

Go write more fodder chapter

LET"S GO ED
IKE IKE GO GO
YATSU NO TAMA WO MOGITORE

Just have a daughter.

I should read it.

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Make it weird west and we have a deal.

The transfer to another world should be voluntary.

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skill taker is pretty awful, MC is too 1 dimensional.

What is an example of isekai with slavery done wrong?

because they're fucking trash. Stop reading them idiot

I just read the little trivia in the end of the chapters

'Slavery is good, but I am morally opposed to stealing' is the meme that turned me off isekai permanently.

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What's the issue? Slaves are property. Buying property is ok, stealing is a crime. Ez

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I was trying to bait that user into reading the garbage for asking to be spoonfed.

The lack of spacing making it's pain to read.

Author keep changing the scene and focus in the middle of chapter

Yeller is ok, but I don't understand why he kill first like that, reader poll?

At least he goes to brothel.

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What's the proper title in English?

Not him but I will.

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Have fun

You're ADHD if you can't read without empty space between lines.
I didn't start yet fuck off with spoilers.

click the reverse search button, it takes less time than it did for you to write that post and click bicycles and traffic lights in the captcha

It's somehow worse. He's willing to have sex with people, just none of the ones he needs to. We don't get to see them do it either, they are too censored already.

Slavery outlawed? what kind of progressive isekai world is this?

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The CIA doesn't care about democracy.or slavery.

Not true. He doesn't consider them mature except for Scalie, which isn't willing and a golem, which other girls won't let him fuck because she's mentally retarded. He does think of making advances towards homunculi, they're just cut short like picrelated.

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>We don't get to see them do it either, they are too censored already.
As some user said: do you really want WN authors to describe sex scenes?

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>not having a pass
>not having had a pass since they were introduced

>Scalie, which isn't willing
She wouold be perfectly happy to do it if he asked, she just doesn't think she is worthy since she doesn't think she can give him children.
>other girls won't let him fuck because she's mentally retarded.
It's only because he won't fuck them first. If he could agree to a compromise to do them first, they would probably help him with Nana.

Some might be fine, or at least have more of the events leading up to it and after. Having it in manga or LN art would be best.

If monster keep attacking villages in isekailand, why don't they build walls or migrate to town with wall already there and making field just outside the town?

>glop glop GLOP

They usually do.

> Two years worth of semen made a glopping noise as it flowed endlessly into Asuna.

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>not having a pass because your country ISPs are 90% range banned
> If he could agree to a compromise to do them first
But he has a type: he likes big-tittied oneesans!
You'd think to have it your way if you isekai user, not submit to petty loli demands.
>Some might be fine
expect this level pastebin.com/jHnqQfsg do you still want it?

I won't pretend to know what are you two talking about, but I do assume it's SAO

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You're giving money to someone who
>puts huge malware ads on every page, even for pass users
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>replaced pedobear with pornhub ads
>is pushing Yea Forums vtubers for more cash grab
>lets the moderation get worse every year
>split the site in two to be more ad friendly
>probably sells your data

Kill yourself faggot

If he wanted to have it his way, he could get her alone where they can't follow and do whatever he wants to her there. He thinks about the others enough to not do that, but he should think more about them to do them too.

He'd have to do ALL or NONE user. Have another look at the troupe: there's none that fit his taste but golem. That's a lot of compromise vs just going to the brothel, especially considering golem is literal teh Rei.

Lmao, is this a legit quote?

I'm paying taxes to Putin.

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Lurk more newfag

Try nofap for 2 years and see for yourself whether it make glopping noise or not

Doing all should not be a problem. Consider that the price instead of money. There is a goddess that wants him too, and she isn't his type either. With all his skills and ability, a little convenience like having sex with those with smaller breasts and shorter bodies is a minor price to pay to freely enjoy his preferred types.

I ignore SAO threads. I've seen it few times here and there, but only the part without "glopping noise". Figured it would be a good time to ask for details.

Christ, how new are you two?

>minor price to pay to freely enjoy his preferred types.
Of which there's only 1 user how are you still missing that point?
Would you fuck twelve hags for 1 loli if you can find perfectly fine one walking distance away?
I have SAO allergies.

>>Raphtalia immediately and voluntarily enslaves herself back to Naofumi again
What possible logic is there to that?

>the benis goes into bajina :DDDDD

Trust. She knows Naofumi is fucked in the head and is paranoid. It's easier for him to work with a slave.

en den dey fuggd :D

She was indebted to him and wanted to help him but he has a severe paranoia so she decided to prove him her loyalty. Besides, paradoxically she had more rights as his slave than a free person in that particular kingdom.

you lost me

What will happen to currency circulation since MC keep hoarding all the money?

>bandits
>people

pick one

Which series are you talking about?

All of them

Naofumi from Shield Hero is both buying and producing en masse, a blessing to Melromarcs economy.
Satou from Death March needs to hoard his money, if he dumped what he farmed at the start the world would go to shit.
The NEET one also spends money on his gear, we've seen him shopping.
There is that one whose goal is to visit every brother possible, so he also boosts the economy.
But I will give you that there are MC like the one who tamed a fenrir, he is a hoarder.

I've been paying since when I was one of the people saying moot should come up with a way to allow us to pay him so the site could suck less. Regardless of hiro being a faggot of a different sort, twenty bucks a year is a good price to remove something as annoying as captcha from anything that involves hours of life per day. If you really don't like hiro, just go firebomb his house or something.

Also,
>giving your information in the first place
>not blocking ads
It's revealing that you complain about things that are only problems for technologically incompetent newfags.

>tamed a fenrir
more like a Fenrir tamed an endless source of food

>Sekkaku Cheat
>There is that one whose goal is to visit every brother possible, so he also boosts the economy.


based butcha U, MC is also curing aids and fighting 80s crack epidemic in that world.

>more like a Fenrir tamed an endless source of food
More like bullied him into submission

Because besides being pure fetish bait the tatoo does nothing due to her being under Shield Grump.

Come on, those Japanese "beast girl" slaves are just ordinary human women with plush ears stapled onto their heads.

Picrelated single-handedly caused national currency appreciation on unprecedented scale. Govt officials don't know what the fuck is going on and joke that if they didn't know better - they would assume that country is paying a tribute to a Dragon. Jokes on them it's just one box running around robbing rich guys.

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>The NEET one also spends money on his gear
Who?
NEET dakedo HELLO WORK?

So you're saying monster slavery is okay?

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Yup, that one. NEET dakedo Hello Work ni Ittara Isekai ni Tsuretekareta

i dont know why you guys are obsessed with the fenrir when the real powerhouse is sui who needs to be protected at all costs

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This looks terrible.

Lol, an user has a power trip on Yea Forums. How pathetic.

Underrated post

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No, I'm saying "Come on, those Japanese 'beast girl' slaves are just ordinary human women with plush ears stapled onto their heads."

is not that bad once you skip anything related to gnomes and/or golems

Imagine in isekai world some guy get killed by rampaging minotaur and reincarnated into our world.

No can do they're abominable demi-humans, here have this church representative enlighten you to their wicked ways.
>I heard they mature as fast as they level
>I heard they have unique powerful classes
>We need to condemn them for their cute plushie ears

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Imagine minotaur killed by adventurers isekais IRL and starts running a crime syndicate through his sheer combat prowess. Everyone things he just wears a mask
vimeo.com/144736865

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would it be fine if they had furry tails, claw like hands and cat like feet?

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Yes, past #2 even threshing them into fertilizer alive would be okay.

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boy do I wish that was me..!

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everyone in that picture is the same character. it's a mimic that has evolved into a doppelganger and shape-shifts into a catgirl as it's public persona. it has perfected it's mask to the point that scrying magic thinks the catgirl is a real person instead of a horrible monster that thinks humans are delicious pretending to be a catgirl.

1.5 is the ideal spot

#2 is furry

isn't the little box Minic?

Stage 1 is okay. Anything further is degenerate.

Would you guys read isekai story where monster evolution work like digimon, so even goblin can become dragon after evolve hopping few time?

oh right

There are series like that, Re:Monster for example. That one is trash though.

Don't mind me, I just arbitrary changed your isekai DNA.

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Wait what debt? I thought he payed for everything upfront.

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>Master is amazing
>How? So suspicious!
>Nyaa
>Master is amazing
>What!?

Sasugas, sasugas never change.

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isn't he talking about taxes?
and as far as i remember, he has never payed taxes

based and redpilled

Oh, right, it's like 1/6 of Roxanne price per year in taxes.

can they sell me a qt 2d catgril? if not, no thanks

gib sauce pls

You can buy cat, loli and switch ears.

Interdependence does not equal Codependence.

NEET dakedo Hello Work ni Ittara Isekai ni Tsuretekareta

Put some effort user.

Question: how does he fight with erections as bit as these?

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Isn't that just Drifters?

Thanks bros

the japanese drifters don't give two shit about slavery as long as they join their side though, it's a bit ... different

We need an anime that is inspired by Spartacus. MC is isekaid into another world where he becomes a slave. And he later escapes with other female waifu gladiators and leads them into rebellion and freedom.

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>bit
*big

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This chart works better I think

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Yeah, while Toyo didn't appreciate mass rape they are not that much of moralfags. They used it just as a convenient casus belli against the 5th Reich.

So men aren't allowed to have their own preferences and choices on what partner they want? If anything female wants you then you have to fuck them right then and there before considering your waifu?

>Satou from Death March needs to hoard his money, if he dumped what he farmed at the start the world would go to shit.
And he does plenty for the economy and money circulation anyway with his OH MY UNDERGROUND ORGANISATION having basically taken over the entire black market of the Shiga Kingdom and slowly improving the magi-tech level of the country by selling innovative and high-quality stuff instead of dubious cheap scam knock-offs that had been sold in the black market before Satou made his debut as "Kuro".

No. I can't agree with that. If it has paws, it's furry. If it has too much fur, it's furry. If it has a muzzle, it's furry.

Kanbaru is furry then?

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That doesn’t sound good.

Well said doggy brb

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I really, really want to reply about, but I don't want to derrail (more) the thread

>democratic republics
>his government

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>woah where am i
>is this a game?
>haha cool ui im level 1 woah
>wait its not actually a game nani?
>im actually the strongest being in this world btw haha
>woah slave girls cool!
how can you guys read this shit

Like this.

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We do it in case we were isekai'd after we die. Every isekaibro knows we are obliged to hoard knowledge about crop rotation and double book entry. The best and least unpleasant way to accomplish this is to read every isekai novel we can get our hands on.

I read it for the part where the loser with no self esteem becomes capable and finds a loving companion.

don't forget turning yourself into a self made billionaire after inventing mayo and soap. its a good thing isekai monopoly money is the same or divisible by 10 compared to yen.

>100 copper for 1 silver
>10 silver for 1 gold
>10 gold for 1 platinum

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Because a slave girl means a few things:
>unwavering loyalty which means no competition with other men, basically all of whom you couldn't compete with
>no skills or qualities required to acquire, which is good because you have none
>no skills or qualities required to keep in line and submitted, which is good because you have none (further driven home by magical slave seals/tattoos/collars)
>the revenge via degradation/humiliation of the sex that has rejected and scorned you all your life
Often when thinking about anime and manga you need to stop thinking from your perspective and start thinking from the perspective of someone who looks like pic related. This goes double for isekais, which are almost all power fantasies that attract pic related like shit attracts flies.

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Even backward isekai countries without mayo are better at managing their currency than britbongs.

>greentxt

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fucking mayo has been around since the discovery of olive oil and soap since lye, don't even get started on yeast
half of these isekai worlds are ass backward

Am I the only one who cringes at any premise that involves the protag being teleported to a new world, and then spreading culture from their homeworld for comfort's sake?

Fran is cute!

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No. I also hate how the not!Europe is backwards and never heard of a bath.

Yes, it's staple of isekai
Risou no Himo Seikatsu.
They have no pottery, no metal forging, no glass manifacture and MC doesn't bring wikipedia dump with 30 days prep time.

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>no pottery, no metal forging, no glass manifacture
unless they're cavemen the author would have make up some REALLY contrived bullshit to explain that one

>hated isekais so much I'm writing my own now
It's like Chinese water torture: the first one wasn't so painful, but by the 100th isekai I felt physically sick just seeing the cover.

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>Minorampage smiles

This and konosuba are the only isekai I don't find really boring.

because slavery was legal in 99% of human history before of Lincoln abolish slavery.

This is why there are so many damn isekai
Every person thinks they can do it better

He doesn't. They don't even know firebricks or that thingy about water/windmill cogs that make them wear slower.
They have magic for shit like molding stones though.

He has a job/skill later that this is relevant for.

Sauce? Google gives me western shit.

Yeah but how many western isekais are there?

>fantasy settings with multiple humanoid species
>no slaves
for what purpose?

the fist one that i read was probably 10 years ago about some french chef that was reincarnated during the Nobunaga's time, and i found it quit interesting.
But now its just cancer.

>buy a dirty african or asian
disgusting

>fantasy settings with multiple humanoid species
>many of them are stronger/cooler than humans
>humans are the ones enslaving
for what purpose?

plenty, they just don't call it a genre so to autistically lazer focus on THAT one aspect so hard
I get the feeling most people who read isekai have never touched general modern fantasy/YA
travel to and between universes isn't exactly a novel concept

Ah, the good ol’ local slave store.

>why are isekai shameless fanservice

Gee user I dunno

only there EIGHT ongoing mangas about isekais and most pages everybody are overacting, more a comedy if anything.

Winter 2019 have TWO anime isekais but there are 35 ongoing animes, where´s " there are so many (10) damn isekais"?

Narnia
Peter Pan
Star Trek
The Expanse

user, there is much more of them. And you didn't mention the novels.

It's not isekai if you space-travel to it.

i disagree, mostly due to MGQ manticores

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Isekai is a great genre because it's safe. The first 20-30 chapters are the story write themselves, the reason the protag was spirited away, the introduction of the kingdom and it's affairs, meeting the heroine and registering at the guild, etc. etc.
That's why the MOST important thing isn't what cheat skills the mc is, or their compatibility with the world combat/magic; the most important thing is pacing. It doesn't matter how slow the journey goes, just do it tastefully; the faraway paladin is a perfect example of this.

I always cringe at
>everyone thinks you are of the weakest
>but actually you are of the strongest

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but I did recently read an isekai where the god explained it wasn't reincarnation, but physical teleportation and transformation to a different realm

librarything.com/tag/transported to another world
oooor you can just literally google "fantasy novel transported to a different world" and find out how goddamn many fantasy novels works of off the premise

probably quite allot in the self published section

Potion Seller has Appraisal SSS confirmed.

Are you a thief?

>the most important thing is pacing
I couldn't agree more. That's why Kekkon Yubiwa Monogatari sucks ass.

youtube.com/watch?v=bSiEB64FyF8

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It's furry. Also, all you faggots talking horse pussy and whatnot for these monster girl anime series are a bunch of fucking furry faggots who need to burn

My point wasn't that there aren't any, my point was that western "isekais" that actually hit public consciousness (e.g. get an adaptation) are considerably more rare than the Jap ones, at least in the last ~4-5 years. Therefore, the western creative market is considerably less saturated with them than the Jap one.

There's also those times someone comes up with a premise and another guy sees it and thinks he can do 1 better. Like Sakamoto666 with KINO Seeker.
>MC List -pastebin.com/ZaqrvZN0
>FotM/Hall of Fame* - pastebin.com/p297NHSG
>Absurd/Edge -pastebin.com/jFtPwsvD
>Revenge - pastebin.com/Z3FNbXNQ
>Otome -pastebin.com/ibPQWyaY
>Other Otome - pastebin.com/YCiG8M1i
>Cultivation - pastebin.com/MZLq88hX
>Dochaku Isekai - pastebin.com/UW470vTi
>Kingdom Building - pastebin.com/qebMRDAP
>Cooking -pastebin.com/ec9vrwPK
>Gender Bender -pastebin.com/W7iegb8D
>Loli MC - pastebin.com/5P93Mw14
>Homebrew -pastebin.com/LNyhntc7
>Completed -pastebin.com/A5t5t6MN
>Time Travel & MDs -pastebin.com/dsvPTmZz
>Sci-fi - pastebin.com/ruPyudzC
>Actual Villains - pastebin.com/uBJTvwDY
>Yuri - pastebin.com/w0sCdXgU
>Reverse Isekai -pastebin.com/csUxcGxE
>Isekai Anime - pastebin.com/fPKJZe9X
>Isekai Tropes -pastebin.com/ibr1mGK5

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How is denying someone their liberty not as bad as taking their property?

>that actually hit public consciousness (e.g. get an adaptation) are considerably more rare than the Jap ones, at least in the last ~4-5 years.
quite a lot of conditions and restrictions you are putting on your demand
besides western versus japanese fantasy media adaptations in general are significantly different, in the west you are fucking lucky if you get published
ask yourself first how many books get adapted into movies/tv series/animations in the first place

>Cultivation
>pastebin.com/MZLq88hX
I’m still peeved that Death Sutra isn’t in there.

They are the property, according to the law.
Nothing quite fills anime media niche in the west, maybe bits and pieces like Agent Archer.
In France closest things are Wakfu and stuff like Lastman. But nowhere those are near as massive as anime in nipland.

no you

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Because Isekai is trash for teenagers. Just like 90% of anime and manga.

>They are the property, according to the law.
So?

>But nowhere those are near as massive as anime in nipland.
the benefits of being a relatively large island nation with an insular culture

>Nidome Jinsei
>elves live far longer and have higher fertility than humans, inherently talented etc
>haven't replaced the human population

Fucking HOW??

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So owning slave isn't a crime in isekai.
Stealing is.
>relatively large
>population is same as Russia
They're fucking bloated for their tiny island.

My bad tell what stuff is missing.

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>if its not against the law its fine to do
big yaiks you better stop writing right now

>denying someone their liberty
You can't deny something that isn't there in the first place. I bet you're American and brainwashed into believing that liberty is some sort of divine gift to the white man, a status acquired by divine birthright instead of merit.

Thanks for the pastebins kind sir, now I know what I'll be clearing next weekend.

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In Rome do as Romans do.

This Try not paying taxes for a year burger. You'll see the price of your liberty.

>everyone thinks you are the strongest
>but actually any peasant with a broomstick can take you down

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i dont hive words for the stupidity of this post.
If you cant even understand basic human values you are off the autism charts my man.

The haphazard morality of the MC is what’s annoying to me. It’s a pain to read.

Freer than you bugaboo.

you realy have to be a big time tax dogger to get in jail for it.
You think homeless people pay taxes ?

>The haphazard morality of the MC
Well yes:
>not above headhunting to get a sex slave
>not above getting a sex slave
>not above turning a blind eye to assault and batter towards woman on the street

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>basic human values
What's this? Humans are anxiety monkeys, animal kingdom doesn't have inherent rights but survival of the fittest and even then it's not guaranteed.
Whoever is strong - exploits and shits on the weak. Nothing has changed, nowadays countries just make up plausible excuses to get what they want.

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>people are still mad at furshit

I'll happily keep this cutie and Nyanta all to my self

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Are there more of them minecraft isekais?

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Does she have anal glans?

I'm not "your man", you assclown. Your not talking to one of your fellow glue sniffers here. If you seriously believe that your local hick town values of the week are the "basic human values", then you know nothing about humans and their values at all.

>humans are just animals so lets behave like them
fuck off bugchild

You’re good!
I’m just the kind of autist that’s up to date with 90% of the CN scene.
If you’ve got the time check out World Of Cultivation and Death Sutra. They’re good.
IET and Er Gen both have more novels translated but if you want to keep it to one novel per author you’ve chosen the best introductory ones.

I'm not sure I'd agree to slavery always being objectively immoral. Say that someone is in debt and on the verge of starving and basically sells themselves in order to be fed and housed from there on. Both the buyer and the slave has enacted a mutually beneficial agreement without any use of force or breaking the non-aggression principle.

Cases where slavery has been enforced and not voluntary entered is immoral though, both in cases like random traffickers kidnapping people (duh) or law enforcers enslaving someone as punishment since there's no guarantee the person in question actually infringed on someone else's rights.

So like most things it's kind of a grey area in theory, realistically the vast amount of enslavement we've seen in our history has been the immoral kind but realism doesn't need to apply to fiction.

I watched a commercial a while back about joining a union and they had chose the ''we're not gonna take it'' song and it really annoyed me how these people portray themselves. They act like they're victims defending themselves when all they do is oppress others through the state and put people in jail if people defend themselves. If I say no that I don't want to give away my resources to the state because I created them and I choose what to do with them they would put me in jail, how some people can seriously believe taxation isn't theft is beyond me.

Newsflash, it isn’t basic if it’s something that hasn’t been around for the majority of human history.

still better than
>black man, strong independent white woman and tranny team up to smash the white patriarchy
which is 95% of modern day western media

niggers are just apes anyway

>lets behave like them
Let's not sugarcoat it either.

I can still hear the music.

Sex slavery is the humane alternative to genocide. Only a heartless monster would hate sex slavery.

...

Relatable.

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quite the opposite, anyone can pick up a gun ad shoot people for something he does not have, its not hard its does not make you stronger in any way.

Everyone is worthy of freedom, user.
Just like everyone is worthy of love.
Even someone like you.

i'd kill a 100 for a sex slave like roxanne

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too bad he barely builds anything anymore and his village is so self sustaining that it borderline has no need for him anymore.

They still need his dick

>he doesn’t want a future free of accursed demihumans
How is choosing your lust over the welfare of the next generation humane?

Nothing grows without his god hoe

He's the breeding king, think of him like a insect queen but with a penis.

Except condescending assholes like you. Nobody loves you. You don't deserve it.

Values and rights are usually words people bring up when they don't have any arguments to support their wishes. ''It's our RIGHT to have this much salary, it's our RIGHT to not have our feelings hurt, it's our RIGHT to immigrate into your nation'' yadda yadda. The only thing we need to focus on is mutually beneficial behavior or in other words don't do to others what you wouldn't want done to you and build a society surrounding that. Basically things like don't steal/respecting one another's property, freedom of speech, do not initiate force in cases other than self-defense etc.

Crossbreeding is impossible so demihuman sex-slaves are okay.

It's trash, but it's still better than shounenshit.

name of manga?

In Slave Harem Labyrinth slavery is basically decentralized private penitentiary system.
Criminals are atoning for their sins by being sold to their new masters, part of money goes to the government and victim of a crime to compensate for damage dome by the criminal-now-slave.
I'm not too sure about US prisons, but I heard they have forced labor.

>manga
Google Boxxy Morningwood

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How is pampering your descendants into weakness and degeneracy humane? Stealing away the challenges they need to grow and to learn how to fight is the worst crime you can commit against them. You could as well kill yourself on the spot. The results are the same, just a bit less ugly.

I would buy slaves, if they are cute girls even better, I don't mind male slaves but I would focus more on females, K'd set it up so they are in a space that wouldn't feel they are slaves nor pressure them into sex although I might still try to court them if given the chance but mainly focus on making them look cute and min/max them.

Mainly I would try making products and potions to sell while keeping up a peaceful life.

>someone is in debt and on the verge of starving and basically sells themselves in order to be fed and housed from there on.
I’d say that sounds ripe for abuse.
I would also put forward that a slave is severely limited in the jobs available to them creating a net loss for society, assuming that slaves exist to fill in the gaps at the bottom of society like they do in real life.

>N T R
>T
>R
They'd fuck each other after battle to alleviate stress then and you'd be watching.

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Dog breeds have less genetic difference to be classified as different races than the one between whites and blacks, so I highly doubt it would be impossible to crossbreed with nekomimis.

Here's a documentary from Norwegian state media if you're interested in the subject youtube.com/watch?v=Ve6uK00AvNo

>I’d say that sounds ripe for abuse.
It's feudal magic fantasy

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I wish I understood what people see in that Novel.
I got to the flesh weaver bit or whatever and I dropped it.

They’ll have their own battles to fight, but if they have to fight our old ones as well they’ll never move forward.

oh a novel

Retard.

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It’s also pointless at that point.
Why not use the undead or magical puppets? They’re stronger, more effective, and more efficient than slaves.
It’d be better to train those slaves as wizards than to break their backs under the yoke of slavery.

>3DPD shit

I heard girls eat things and produce shit, and you have to comfort them every now and then. No thanks.

What do you mean, 'forward'?

Why so insecure?

I heard they come with a warm body and a heartbeat and stuff.

The people here are chronically incapable of trusting other people if you haven't realized by now.

If you don’t get the refernce you should read more!

Who needs that shit?

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Thiefs aren't considered people and Roxanne was fucking worth it, I mean look at that whole chapter dedicated to sex.
Cleaning the trash while gaining cash for a sexy slave is the best thing you can do.

>It’s also pointless at that point.
No, you're just dumb.
>It’d be better to train those slaves as wizards than to break their backs under the yoke of slavery.
It's not like wizards require rare innate talent, expensive activation drug and training from 5 y/o up.
>Why not use the undead or magical puppets?
I would use picrelated but there're none in the Slave Labyrinth Harem so far and it's unclear if Undead exist at all.
You also can't fuck a skeleton.
Roxxanne signed Sex-slave clause to her Slave contract, essentially increasing her market price that would her to pay reparations for the crime (tax evasion in her case).

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>trusting a woman

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>trusting anyone at all

Not worth it.

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tfw you realize this’ll be coming to real dolls in the next 10 years

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A man should at least have 1 bro he can trust.

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I don't understand how that is abuse unless you're enslaving mentally disabled who has no understanding of slavery as a concept. We don't have a collective ownership of one another and each person are the ones to make decisions about their own body, if said person wants to invalidate their rights in return for something then that's their decision to do so. Kinda like how I can invalidate my freedom of speech by signing a NDA with a company in return for my salary, where a situation when I breach my part of the bargain would entitle them to have their property (money) returned.

As to how to enforce this the recommended method would be financial ostracization. If you're someone that doesn't uphold your word and don't pay your dues, people and companies would naturally cease to trade with you which would obviously be a disaster for any individual, hence incentivizing people to not fall down that route. There would still be people to do so and who would end up in the gutter but that's just plain Darwinism at that point and you will always have some people ruining themselves in any system (or a lack of one).

Fang Yuan taught me that there are no bros in this world, only potential enemies.

>each person are the ones to make decisions about their own body,
That's why suicide is illegal and you'll be restrained and drugged for failed attempts.

Are you implying that you or Naofumi trust men?

>all men
No, just a few.

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Okay. I thought we were talking General Fantasy not that specific setting since it’s just fap bait.

>rape is bad
>keeping people locked up and drugged with aphrodisiacs until all they can think about is sex is okay though

Sex slave are a thing IRL, to say nothing of general fantasy which is often medieval where subjects are property of the king and lord anyway.

Hey man, writing a story one handed is tough!

>I’d say that sounds ripe for abuse.
People are already enslaved and abused in our society. They're not called slaves but it's not different.

I’m saying I don’t trust the government or big corporations to not fuck me over with debt with me “volunteering” to be a slave as my only option.

>I'm not sure I'd agree to slavery always being objectively immoral.
>Brings up irl sex slavery
Shiggy Diggy.

Are you talking about wage cucks or something else?

>immoral
Stop eating meat, it's immoral. What, you won't because steak is tasty? So is Roxanne, fuck off moralfag hypocrite.

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And at which point did I say that our current system, socialized states where a minority of the population (those who vote for x party) decides everything for the majority with an iron hand, is a moral and just one?

I don't believe I have an inherent right over someone else's body and that someone else have an inherent right over mine, people can choose to do whatever the hell they want as long as they're not hurting anyone else. The difference between morality and immorality is all about consent, it's the difference between sex and rape, a boxing match and a brawl and theft and taxation. So if I want to sell my organs in return for something I should naturally be able to do that, if someone wants to sell their body in return for something they should be able to do that as well.

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Because slavery is the only realistic way majority of audience of these shows can aquire a female to fuck

See Fight animal abuse. Food factories abuse animals. They suffer. You support it by eating meat. Stop eating meat you degenerate!

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Well Roxanne is selling her body to pay fine for tax evasion.

There is one other.

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Man, Kim is getting like 2 chapter delays per week lately

Dumb edgelord

fucking hell

I talk about shitty jobs.

I accept your defeat.

Governments would gladly do so yes like what we see in China and what is starting up in the west now with social credit. Big companies are different though (at least as long as the state isn't involved) due to them having a number of rules they play by.

The main difference between capitalism and socialism is that in socialism people can infringe on your freedoms and force you to do things or otherwise punish you. In capitalism you don't need to make any choices that aren't beneficial to you and every agreement between every individual or corporate entity has to be mutually beneficial.

Don't get me wrong, companies and their owners in general only care about increasing their wealth and they would happily fuck you over if it benefited them in some way but in a free market it wouldn't be beneficial for them. The reason being is that they need employees and customers in order to expand and if they did something like fucking over their customers or offered shit wages a rival company would happily take and utilize both parts from them and claim their market share and eventually entirely replace them. Companies don't do anything more than they need to, but neither do they do anything less than they need to. At least unless their existence is guaranteed by the state, then they can do whatever the hell that want. TLDR it's democratic capitalism/libertarianism versus crony capitalism which is what we have today.

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t. untermensch

>single-handedly caused national currency appreciation on unprecedented scale. Govt officials don't know what the fuck is going on
Do officials take the opportunity to debase their currency cause the money supply is too low?

Fuck /pol/tards. I'm nuking this thread.

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Read it.

Boxy was a really fun read up until the point when he started consistently winning. The whole appeal of the early chapters was his borderline retarded efforts to progress through complex, dangerous situations with the limited intelligence and ultraspecialized perspective/skillset of a Mimic - the story hung on longer and better to that premise than Slime ever did, but by the time I stopped reading he was a suave humanoid warlock mercenary who'd level-ground near to unbeatability and was juggling multiple successful identities with a host of willing and powerful servants.

It didn't help that, while he was always a horrible monster, his increased intelligence and growing tendency to succeed made him more repulsive than comedic, both because karma no longer seemed to be in play and because his sociopathy became less easy to excuse as the actions of an idiot box. Plus the people he was hurting became less awful, which didn't help.

I figured the author had come to the same conclusion around the time he killed him off to the Wardrobe Mimic: it would have been a hilarious troll ending to the series, or at least a decent trigger for a whole new premise like him becoming a low-tier greed demon pegged for the post of Archdemon. Instead he got brought back to life by cosmic fucking coincidence, outsmarted everyone because he's super cool and smart and powerful, and came out of it with a powered-up unique demon minion. Boring.

I'm fine with #3, desu. You saying you wouldn't fuck Isabelle, you liar?

But #2 should be the mainstream standard. Come on now.

But the majority of the audience doesn't care of just "fuck". It's all about getting an eternally devoted waifu AND also fucking her.

>hate /pol/
>act like /pol/

And to be enslaved by the government for resisting theft and is obviously the immoral kind of slavery I talked about before. So from my point of view Roxanne shouldn't have been enslaved in the first place. So I guess the moral thing to do would be for MC to set some conditions relatively close to what he purchased her for and set her free under the premise that she'll be enslaved again if she violate said conditions? Like pay me twice the sum in installments over a three year period or something of the kind.

I highly doubt that the person who started arguing that slavery is objectively immoral is a /pol/tard and most of us here likely aren't either, I checked them out 3-4 years ago and unless something has changed they're pretty much all totalitarians.

Remember magic collars, if they can'd disobey they can't cheat.
Also, I don't care about a harem of 12 girls, I'd be fine having just 2 as long as make them OP and the thing about having at least one male slave is so I hook him up with just for heavy labor, if anything getting him hooked up with another female slave would fix things up.

Gonna need my heavy flamer for this shit.

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That Overlord screencap is what got me to watch the series.

Unfortunately, while the screencap is accurate, it feels like the writer just didn't have the willpower to avoid wanky wish fulfillment. If there was a genuine chance of Momonga losing his subordinate's trust and facing a coup, it'd be an interesting set-up where he'd actually have to lie and misdirect and put up a front. If Momonga was genuinely less powerful than his "character" was meant to be, for whatever reason, and actually had to deal with problems through bluffing and tricking his OP allies, it'd be a fun ride. If Momonga was actually a normal person instead of having his emotional responses filtered through Isekai Emotion Deadening Skill #2491, his reactions and conflicted feelings about having to ride this tiger would be funny or even horrifying.

Instead all his subordinates are literally programmed for perfect obedience, the only one to turn on him did so because of mind control, he trashed her anyway because he's the most powerful thing in existence by an order of magnitude, and he doesn't really care because he's a skeleton. Any tension, dramatic or comedic, was dead in the water the moment the writer decided Momonga's numbers should be higher than everyone else's numbers.

I'm wary now he's got a summoning skill, desu. I hate it when isekai have one basic pitch like:
HEY WHAT IF THIS ISEKAI KID WAS JUST THE PARTY HEALER
or
HEY WHAT IF THE ISEKAI HERO ACTUALLY BECAME THE HOLY SWORD

And then within three chapters they've thrown four more bonus skills and special magic items into the hero's lap just in case the reader was worried he wouldn't be the strongest ever and have all the bitches in no time. I usually drop any story that has the isekai hero just accidentally stumble across a powerful magic sword (usually talking, usually just for exposition, usually stops talking once more interesting characters show up), because fuck you that's just the laziest handjob in the world.

I hate soft porn fan service.
I want a decent story, if i wanted porn i would get actual porn.

It's not isekai but sounds like you'd enjoy Mx0.

For LNs if you're okay with the MC being op you should definitely try reading power in the shadows. It's pretty hilarious and has managed so stay consistent quality wise up until now (like chapter 120). Translations have kinda died down now the last few months but hopefully someone picks it up again (other than the semi-inactive guy we have now).

>HEY WHAT IF THE ISEKAI KID WAS A MONSTER
and then they give him a human form almost immediately

>In Rome do as Romans do.
You know, user, I have a sneaking suspicion that if a fat greasy old noble dragged off the hero's waifu and claimed her as his new concubine - totally legal by the laws of the land, since he's a noble and they're just commoners - you would be pissed if that hero just shrugged and said "well, the law's the law, and I don't want any trouble".

He's going to fuck up real soon.
3 is pet, not for sex, creep.

Do you eat meat?

ROB SCHNEIDER

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blacktext?
fucking newfag

>it feels like the writer just didn't have the willpower to avoid wanky wish fulfillment.
The author doesn't even have willpower to go through with expanding on all the chekhov guns he left in the plot, let alone avoiding wish-fulfillment.

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>And at which point did I say that our current system, socialized states where a minority of the population (those who vote for x party) decides everything for the majority with an iron hand, is a moral and just one?
>Slavery is moral because it's the law
>Our laws are immoral because I disagree with them
Hmmmmmmmmm

>isekai
>decent story
Get actual porn, save yourself some time.
Strong bend, break and make laws at their convenience. If hero is sufficiently confident he can get away with defying royalty - kudos. That would just mean that he is the law, that's all.
Otherwise in Rome do as Romans do.

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>He's going to fuck up real soon.
I already dropped it, I'm afraid. I don't really like reading about the character any more, so even an attempt to return to comedic fuckups feels like it'd fall flat.

Your loss, it's still entertaining and Boxxy is challenged alright.

FUCKING SLIIIIIIIIME

like seriously though what changes about that story if he's just an OP trap from the beginning? nothing. he is never a slime in any meaningful way. it's pointless.

>It's not isekai but sounds like you'd enjoy Mx0.
Certainly did!

Imagine a version of Overlord that plays out like Mx0, but with the MC's goal being to avoid showing weakness and provoking a coup from his power-hungry lieutenants, while tricking the demon lord's army into not slaughtering humanity, but instead improving his lifestyle and the surroundings under the guise of war preparations and moral sabotage.

>if they did something like fucking over their customers or offered shit wages a rival company would happily take and utilize both parts from them and claim their market share and eventually entirely replace them
I don’t think that’s the case with everything.

There is no such thing as a good isekai. This shit is always written by authors that have no real world interactions outside of their hand.

Thanks for admitting that it’s immoral!

>what is analogy

You aren’t under any moral obligation to take on someone else’s burdens.

>Your loss, it's still entertaining and Boxxy is challenged alright.
The tone of the series sort of changes when I'm not reading about a retarded box bumbling through society while abusing his grumbling demon slaves, but instead reading about the level-capped lovechild of Hannibal Lecter and The Thing grooming an emotional vulnerable elf lesbian so he can eat her and steal her inheritance while his adoring demon lovers cheer him on.

They're two very different characters, at that point. Wile E. Coyote stops being funny if he catches and graphically butchers the Road Runner before trying to seduce and eat his mother with a genuinely cunning master plan. He spends all his time trying to murder someone to eat them, but we laugh and sympathize: the fact that he's an idiot who fails is all that keeps him palatable. Boxxy crossed that threshold a ways back.

>Slavery is moral because it's the law
And other things I have not said, coming up next!
>Our laws are immoral because I disagree with them
Most of our laws are immoral because they rely on the initiation of force to be upheld and don't have any society-spanning negative consequences but only inconvenience the minority in power. Law shouldn't trump basic principles for a functioning society like property rights, the non-aggression principle or freedom of speech. Literally the only progress we've seen in society the last 100 years have been due to technological advancements, and even then it's been heavily slowed down by massive taxation of a system whose seemingly only reason to exist is existing like with the USSR toward the end of its lifespan.

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He's still good old retarded box inside and fucks up big time on several occasions.

there's fucking tons of trash isekai like these with either nothing happening or edgy self insert MC or just both

isekai is a trope, not a genre

>And to be enslaved by the government for resisting theft and is obviously the immoral kind of slavery I talked about before.
>The strong make the rules!
>B- but not the government because no-one has the right to tax you!
>Except that humans HAVE no inherent rights!
>So that's why debt slavery is fine.
>No, seriously, capitalist slavery is fine because you knew what you were getting into, we're all educated adults here!
>Educated by the government I hate, which is a service paid for by the taxes I consider theft
>So debt slavery to the government is wrong, because that's theft!
>And theft is wrong because *checks notes on Atlas Shrugged* it's against the law, which determines morality!
>The law which is set by the government that shouldn't exist, enforced using strength that is or isn't the only real foundation of rights, on a populace that have no inherent rights except the right not to acknowledge the government
>oh no I've gone cross-eyed
>Welcome to Somalia, the libertarian paradise!

In other words:
Mr. Satan / King - The Isekai.

So does Hannibal Lecter, but that doesn't make him funny. It's a different character at this point, one I don't find very appealing. Or rather, it's the exact same character, but with enough self-awareness and intelligence and agency and power that it's much harder to view his awful actions and constant murder as comedic slapstick.

Oh, another moralfag incapable of enjoying senseless violence in media.

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What point are you trying to make?

It certainly isn't today, and that's the problem. Take the US for example, there the politicians create systems so company giants like McDonalds or Walmart can get away without having to pay any taxes while their small competitors have to pay a sizeable amount of their income in taxes and has to play with a handicap against them, thus ensuring their dominance. They also frank out forbid new competitors in some markets like the medical industry, making it almost impossible for new companies to open up hospitals and forbid foreign medicines which can compete with the domestic monopoly thus letting them charge whatever they want. Not to even begin talking about governmentally owned businesses who isn't even reliant on customers or providing a good service since their existence is guaranteed on tax money, thus as said allowing them do act however the hell they want. Cartels also need government intervention and regulation in order to remain since it would otherwise always benefit your company to be the ones to break free and make bank on the customers.

There's a few exceptions like when you have a private backer who will keep funding you even when your business is failing for sentimental reasons but in general the shit that companies are pulling is only enabled by the politicians. As said it's called crony capitalism and it's garbage.

That you're hypocrite

I prefer my violence to be either a symphony or something low and intimate.

Why? Because I like to eat meat but don’t like to have sex slaves?
What do they have to do with each other?

I'm usually biased toward this, but you should try the manga that's being spammed in this thread.

Truth.

thank god, someone else with taste

For starters, why are you bunching up a number of different statements in this thread that aren't from me and trying to make it look like I hold a multitude of differentiating views? Do you want to have an actual conversation or did you just get very upset about something I wrote and is trying to poison the well and somehow make yourself feel better?

>And to be enslaved by the government for resisting theft and is obviously the immoral kind of slavery I talked about before
Yes.
>The strong make the rules!
Never said that.
>B- but not the government because no-one has the right to tax you!
Nobody has the right to tax you under the threat of violence if you don't comply. As said the difference between taxation and theft is consent.
>Except that humans HAVE no inherent rights!
We don't have any objective rights given to us by some almighty being, no. We can have basic principles though which are needed for a society, like private ownership (which we've had since cavemen) and not doing to others what you don't want done to you.
>So that's why debt slavery is fine
Slavery is never fine as a punishment, only as a per-arranged agreement.
>No, seriously, capitalist slavery is fine because you knew what you were getting into, we're all educated adults here!
You're ultimately responsible for your own decisions in life, yes. Even calling it slavery would be faulty if it's consensual.
>Educated by the government I hate, which is a service paid for by the taxes I consider theft
Yes, because there's no way to learn things outside of school and there's never been a way to fund them outside of taxes.
>So debt slavery to the government is wrong, because that's theft!
Yes.
>And theft is wrong because *checks notes on Atlas Shrugged* it's against the law, which determines morality!
Theft is by definition something that's unwanted since if that wasn't the case it would be ''theft'', it would be ''trading''. Just like how rape can't be consensual since it'd be sex.

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>Oh, another moralfag incapable of enjoying senseless violence in media.
The story opens with our MC devouring hapless adventurers out to save the world before nuking a whole town out of sheer callous greed. It was hilarious. I don't think an inability to enjoy senseless violence is the problem. In fact, the whole problem I've been describing is that it STOPS being senseless violence.

You do understand that although Tom & Jerry and Saw are both just long sequences of people being mutilated in horrible ways, one is a comedy and one is horror, right? And you can understand why someone who watched a whole Tom & Jerry box set and found each episode getting closer and closer to Saw would be put off, even if they enjoyed Saw on its own merits as its own thing?

So can you see why the slow transition from a retarded-but-mobile Mimic on a roadtrip to a shapeshifting hypercompetent Dexter villain would result in a very different tone, even if the story's still trying to be comedic? That's the disconnect for me. That's the loss.

(plus it just generally feels more indulgent and willing to jack Boxxy off, which I have a low tolerance for)

>The law which is set by the government that shouldn't exist, enforced using strength that is or isn't the only real foundation of rights, on a populace that have no inherent rights except the right not to acknowledge the government
Never said that something is moral because it's law or immoral because it's outlawed. Never said that ''rights'' should be enforced by strength or law but by financial ostracization of individuals.
>oh no I've gone cross-eyed
Not really, no.
>Welcome to Somalia, the libertarian paradise!
Yes, use a society with a population of an average IQ of 68 as an example of how libertarianism would work in the west. Socialism exists because we have a society and there are those that wants a system to increase their influence, we don't have a society because of socialism.

Thanks for the eloquent take!
I feel the same!

>Most of our laws are immoral because they rely on the initiation of force to be upheld and don't have any society-spanning negative consequences but only inconvenience the minority in power.
>but inconvenience the minority in power.

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Urushi is like the only thing he can summon because C-ranked shit is absurdly fucking powerful in the world of sword dad and summoning anything else would go over capacity.

It lets them make easily marketable merch in case you forgot that Slime is a big multimedia franchise.

no prob
That's no problem. I'm just trying to keep track of all of them. Thanks for pointing them out.

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Most people don't seem to understand what a society is or how it works.

Basically, it's like this: a bunch of people with similar ideas of how people should be able to live came together and decided how they were going to govern their territory. It's a contract based on mutual rights between individuals and it's enforced by a militia. Anyone who would threaten the rights decided on by the group gets put down by force. In the end, the only thing that truly maintains a society is its military and whoever controls it. If you believe in human rights, the only way to protect them is to kill anyone who would oppose you. This sentiment was reinforced during and after WW2. We established a union of countries with similar ideas of what rights every human should have. Anyone who steps out of line must be immediately put down in order to secure safety for the rest. It's sad, but that's the nature of reality.

happens a lot in fantasy as well since theres a giant overlap between isekai and fantasy anyway.

Is Roxanne's backstory explained more in the light novel? Or at least does she show more personality?
In the manga she kind of mentioned she was a bad adventurer that couldn't pay her taxes and became a slave.
Since then she's kind of acted like a simple NPC that only explains stuff and praises the MC.