Takes over Full metal panic and makes it into a successful franchise

Oh sure.
And what's your criteria for calling a studio "on the next level" then?
Amount of shitposters, perhaps?
Sales?

Don't know about you but they are undeniably on a different level when it comes to the overall production quality of their IPs.
Which is kind of why they're always getting your muh best animation awards.

We could use financial success too, given how they're the only studio out there to ever show up on these kinds of lists alongside giants such as Sony.

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>Takes over a dead franchise and makes it into a super successful show
>Won so many awards
>Director got fired, and the entire Eastern sphere became his army
>Brought down an entire collossal entertainment giant
>Studio and director who tried to touch his treasure were ruined
>He is making so much money while spending nothing

Stop boasting your nothing, Kyoanifags

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That's easy when you consider that they release 1 anime a year.
Madhouse has 6 anime, 2 movies, and many other collabs every year

>they release 1 anime a year
Sure, except for the fact that this is not true.

KyoAni released TV 3 anime and 2 movies in 2018. One of the TV anime in question looks better than full feature movies and one of the movies won your muh Noburo Ofuji award.
And they did this by themselves and with their own staff and partners, no outside help required.

Your argument is moot.

Never judge them by the amount of anime per year, otherwise A-1 is the best.

>make a Haruhi show without Haruhi
>expect anyone to care.

A-1 only did 4 TV anime last year on their own (3 if you don't count the first cour of SAO which looks like dogshit btw). I don't get what you mean.

Sorry and a movie. But they don't even come close to measuring up to the visual quality of Kyoani's works.

A-1's fight scenes are well-done.
Kyoani is visually impressive but holy fuck that naruto run at VEG

that would be true if Kyoani didnt flop with maid dragon, blue bird, and VEG. which all tanked horribly in sales

Just say Tsurune
It traumatized them so much they abandoned the stalker threads for good

>maid dragon
You mean the one that got 3 spinoff and a second season?

nice dysinfo and epic troll xd

Madhouse also outsources the hell out of their series to DR MOVIE. KyoAni works with their own employees and a small handful of ex-employees. Might as well say that Wanpack was the best studio before it closed up if you go by quantity.

Without Haruhi and Kyon relegated to a boring role
it's pretty much day 1 failure

Volume 1 copies ended up being discounted at 90% on Amazon. Shameful.

>kyoanus wiki editors calls their branded light novels real novels attempting to elevate their status
>『ツルネ -風舞高校弓道部-』（ツルネ かぜまいこうこうきゅうどうぶ）は、綾野ことこによる日本のライ
トノベル
>ライトノベル
>KAエスマ文庫（ケーエーエスマぶんこ）は、京都アニメーションが2011年より発行するライトノベルの文庫レーベル
>ライトノベル

the manga spinoff? christ

what

>3,404 Kyoukai no Kanata
>MONOGATARI KILLER

Western kyoanuslickers are trying to seperate their light novel brand from lowly light novels by refering them to "real" novels in all their material despite KA Esma Bunko being a bonafide light novel label.

It's a small thing but it's typical of their fanbase that likes to put their medicore works on a pedestal and perfectly showcases their mindset when consuming their content.

No doubt about that. VEG didn't really have anyone on the production who could do action. Even that flashback fight scene from early on when loli violet was fighting those soldiers was not very good, with the blurred sidescrolling background and how the characters feet were cut off for must of the cut.

However there are more things to consider here. Action scenes are typically treated as spectacles, and the action scenes in VEG were at the very least competently animated, miles above a standard cost cutting faceflapping scene, and that was the production's lowest point, everything else about the show looked amazing. The low-points in A-1 shows are usually abysmal, take any scene in the last 5 or so episodes of the new SAO and you will see ugly off model characters everywhere. Also consider that the people who do the spectacle fight scenes for A-1 shows are usually freelancers and A-1 shows usually bring in way more animators to pull their shows off. Almost everyone who worked on VEG was a kyoani animator and most of them were relatively inexperienced. Kyoani aren't the leaders in everything but I'd argue the only thing A-1 has over them as a studio is market savviness.

>Gets cocky and starts thinking they can adapt whatever shitty manga or LN and make it work
>Creates their own publishing house to bait shitty authors into giving them the ips of their works
>Take the core ideas and change everything to make it more Kyoani-like
>Has produced only lackluster shit since then
>Has to pander to fujos and lolicons to survive
Great work Kyoani.

>maid dragon "flops"
>still makes more money than 90% of the studios

How does Kyoani manage to do it?

You shouldn't look at that list as an indication of who makes the most money or not. KyoAni gets to be on the disc publisher list because they publish their own discs. Toei is undeniably richer but they don't publish their own discs.

Anyone who says "flop" on Yea Forums should be permanently banned, prove me wrong.

Kind of funny how they went from a respectable studio to a literal baby that shits the bed every single time.

..... I liked Yuki-chan

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Can’t wait for Tsurune season 2

>hyouka
>good

that's because toei isn't an independent studio like Kyoani.

Well yes, they're attached to Toei corp and partly owned by a number of other corps, but looking at disc revenue as a measure of how rich each studio is is dumb. That's my point. Other studios don't publish their own discs.

A better measure of financial success is them being able to lead production committees for their own works, even films. Koe was a massive risk but also really paid off for them.

I prefer mysteries with higher stakes like scooby doo.

Yes, that proves that they are on another level, now all they have done is a safe flop. Why don't you open a thread on this topic and only talk about past glories?

This.

>Maid Dragon
>VEG
>tanked horribly in sales

They also took trash like Koe no Katachi and Maidragon and turned them into gold.

nah, dragon anime sucked

>hyozzzzzzzzzz

This is objective.

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Having more key animators (and animation directors) isn't a good thing. It's usually a bad thing. KyoAni has better production scheduling and tries to keep things inhouse, hence the low numbers.

When you see huge amounts of KAs/ADs, that's a bad sign.

how come Kyoani can maintain such a low KA count on their show? Doesn't it show they are operating on another level above other studios?

Nigga, first Full Metal Panic was by GONZO.

Yeah, the first season. But it was pretty bad so Kyoani had to do fumoffu to make people forget how bad season 1 was then Kyoani made it into a classic with season 2.

There is no studio named Kyoto Animation. "Kyoto Animation" is just a Lantis marketing brand slapped on shitty products to sell to retarded ex-Sunrise fans. The actual "Kyoto Animation" has no resources to make even single episode of anime - they never did anything by themselves, Lucky Star aside. Even the fucking Flash cartoon Baja Studio was completely outsourced. VEG was the nearest, but they used the Young Animator Project crew for it, most of which left later realizing what a scam studio Kyoani was, and the last half of VEG was outsourced too.

I wonder how long gullible retards will continue to fall for the Kyoto Animation meme, not realizing its just 4 core people and other studios and freelancers doing the main work for each of "their" projects, paid by Lantis or other partners like with Tsurune or, the next time, Electric Catalog with Studio Feel.

Fucking Production IG, in the same company as Kyoto Animation (USP), is an actual good and effective animation studio in comarison with actual talent and resources (and they also usually have to do work for Kyoto Animation too if the USP is involved). Kyoto Animation is fake; it does not exist.

They've always had above average production scheduling. They keep their output low, and almost all of the animators they work with are employees. Having lots of KAs means you're rushing to the deadline and need to recruit more just so you can get the damn thing on the air. They set aside more time for each episode, and if someone can't handle the load, almost everyone is in the same space. Someone needs guidance from the director? They can walk over to their office.
>Doesn't it show they are operating on another level above other studios?
They always have. Even if you think their series are dogshit in terms of writing, they've had above average conditions, wages, and scheduling for years.

>Another studio takes over Full metal panic and it flops spectacularly

Wait, what?

I meant that the picture shows the first season.

One has to understand something most "Kyoani fans" don't get - there is no "Kyoani" studio.

The actual "Kyoani" is 4 core people, and a dozen or so new people hired through the Young Animators project etc to work on "their" shows.

EVERY Kyoani show is a show, where their name simply was used as marketing brand, while actual production was done by outsourcing and working together with other studios. Exceptions are maybe Maid Dragon and Nichijou. Even Baja Studio was so heavily outsources you can't even call it Kyoani, up to other studios doing key animation - and it was the litteral flash cartoon.

So without Lantis using the Kyoani name to put it on some kind of product, Kyoani can't do shit. Theres some help from Studio Feel - but at this point Production IG and Kinema Citrus, are already much better companies than Kyoani itself so they have no reason to put resources into it.

Thus Kyoani is doomed to find outside companions to do stuff (like Free and Tsurune), where their name is used for marketing and some character/cut designs - or wait for their scam LN contest to feed them another project like Koe/VEG (and yes, while creatively Koe was "Kyoani", the production was not theirs entirely and list of subcontractors is in 50+ companies and hundreds freelance animators)

So the CG in VEG/Tsurune is simply because Kyoani CAN'T animate proper TV anime alone - without someone giving them money for outsourcing/hiring subcontractors. And now they pair with other companies, who use the Kyoani name as a brand. The CGI itself is NOT done by Kyoani - Kyoani simply does not have any people doing it. So more correct would be to say that VEG/Tsurune are shows by CG companies, where Kyoani name is used to attract retards.

I wonder if the guy above me thinks he's funny or something.

This was confirmed to be bullshit. The source this yuri lover faggot uses is some random forum, and they're combining Pony Canyon's entire publishing revenue (for Kyoani shows) with Kyoani for some reason.

I wonder if you think you have any right to talk about the anime industry.