Where did it go wrong for the character Napoleon in the 1970s film Waterloo

>Napoleon, my son
>You can go south from Vienna and liberate Serbia and Greece from the Ottoman yoke, retake Constantinople and outshine even Alexander
>Or you can invade Russia for no reason at all and retreat during winter
>

Davout was informed needed in Paris to get shit together and prevent any coups.

Napoleon didn't order the retarded cav charge, Ney did. At the time Napoleon was incapacitated with severe stomach pain (likely stomach cancer or something else that eventually killed him). When he returned to the field he was like wtf did Ney do?

Unfortunately* needed

Prussians

Shit, autocorrect. Phone posting sucks.

YO PAULE
WHADAYA DOIN PLAYIN DRESS UP LIKE SOME KINDA ARMY MAN UH?

>Napoleon had an average size; he took, in today's measurements, a number 7 hat. The head seemed large because the neck was short. His feet were small: twenty-six centimetres long, that is size 6. His hands also were small and beautifully made, with tapering fingers and well-formed nails. Small too were the penis and testicles.

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Lots of things
>Napoleon decided to wait a few hours to attack in order let the ground dry the previous nights rain. This was a major tactical mistake as it allowed the Prussians more time to arrive. Even Napoleon's artillery men told him as such
>General Nay, while a brave soldier, was a mediocre tactician and for some reason he called for a cavalry charge against British infantry that were placed in squares and was pretty much decimated by them
>Napoleon didn't show any of his classic genius. He pretty much tried an obvious fake flanking maneuver that Wellington didn't fall for, then charged the middle
>Napoleon sent 30,000 men to chase the Prussian but there scouting was shit and they ended up chasing the rear guard while the main force of the Prussians was able to race back to Waterloo

>"Who are these amazons?"
Had Napoleon not encountered scotts before? I thought they would have at least heard of them from the Peninsula Wars/India

>Well, in the 1815 campaign he was screwed basically no matter what.
This is probably 80% true. Even if Napoleon triumphed at Waterloo odds are he would have lost the war. But if anyone could have won the war after a victory at Waterloo it would have been Napoleon. A victory would have bought him more time keep building his army.

>This Wellington wages war in a new way. He fights sitting on his ass. We'll have to move him off it.

Napoleon failed to realize that by this point all of his battles were studied by every countries militaries to look for countermeasures. The best countermeasure was to just stay put and not fall for Napoleons numerous bluffs and counterbluffs. Young Napoleon would have realized this. But 1815 Napoleon was a half broken man.

>Old Guard
>apparently they were his oldest veterans, strict entry conditions, having to be at least 6ft tall and strong
>Napoleon apparently never really utilised them throughout his campaigns because he treasured them so much
>they fucking retreat
Bruh

They were so feared by their enemies because of the fact that they were never used. But when they were activated they turned out to be just your typical very good to great veteran guard. And when they started retreating the regular French solders just ran as well.

All pretty true, but a few points:
>he didn't have options other than Ney
>his army was cobbled together and couldn't be expected to do complex maneuver
>more importantly, he didn't have the time or geography to do much more than a frontal assault
>wasn't his fault that Grouchy fucked up
>should have have won the campaign at Ligny but got unlucky - Prussians could have been destroyed or at least routed

But ultimately it was what it was. He was in ill health and way past his peak. His army was not elite. His commanders were poor. He was massively outnumbered. And yet he still almost won the battle and campaign - as Wellington admitted, the Prussians saved his ass.

He did not have Berthier as chief-of-staff, ruining his initial operational plan which would have permitted him to defeat the Allies in detail.

False. The Old Guard was called upon many times in the Russian campaign and the campaigns of 1813-14. They always did a fabulous job.

And they didn't attack at Waterloo. The Middle Guard (basically just normal soldiers) made the final assault. The Young Guard held off the Prussians. The Old Guard stayed with Napoleon and formed the final organized resistance as the army routed.

True

Is it really kino?
>absolutely bizarre camera choices
>coherent only if you know the exact sequence of events/players that day in Waterloo
The battle sequences are unquestionably kino but the rest of the movie was just a big shrug

what are you talking about user? i only remember a few awkward shots. the whole movie is kino

I think you mean kino camera choices.

And yes, it does not spoon feed you. It assumes knowledge.

No. Napoleon was measured on an English owned and stocked island, and himself preferred and used the new metric system as did basically any Frenchman of intellect. When his height was measured in feet, those were English Feet. Not some meme French Foot that no one present would have used.
He was a runt.

>t. perfidious anglo

Why did the most powerful man in Europe want to marry some 35 year old roastie when he could have had any prime French female that he wanted?

More horses.

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He actually loved her and wasn’t a horny baboon

no he should've realized that he would end like alexander and caesar and should've charged headstrong into the english and prussians at waterloo and die a glorious warrior's death

Grouchy's fucked up is by far the worst, but Nappy was probably cooked either way. The allies just had too many armies in the field, and were completely unwilling to compromise since they had already defeated him before.
Should have accept the Frankfurt Proposal after Leipzig. It would have been the end of the France's hegemonic control over much of Europe, but it was still an incredibly strong position, and with time France could leverage that strength again (especially since it would cuck Prussia out of much of the Rhineland territory it ended up gaining at the Congress of Vienna).

It's too bad we'll never get kinos like this again because they cost too much apparently

And he got cheated on multiple times by her

m.youtube.com/watch?v=BGag8Qllgnw

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>the lies of the perfidious albion carry on to this very day
If the krauts had not sperged out with WWII the anglo would be reviled as the greatest evil to ever infest the earth

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That’s not relevant to the previous question though

>sperged out
How? The Germans were the closest followers of the Geneva convention

>Old Guard
>they fucking retreat
They stood their ground and died. It was the Middle Guard that broke and ran.

Should've brought in parisian prostitutes to fuck the British, during the distraction they could've killed the Prussians

Based and correct pilled

oy vey is all i gotta say to that

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>Russians
>Russian
Retard

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Napoleon was fucked like Hitler was. He destoryed the balance of power. Britain would have kept at it undermining France and were untouchable, Prussia and austria would have risen the second the had the chance every time
russia broke him but if he didn't invade the continental system was broken

The only good thing about the USSR was that you could hire a division to make kino

Frogs are the source of all europes ills though. If they’d been justly and adequately punished after Waterloo maybe everything that came after would have been avoided.

We'd be eating space croque monsieurs on Mars right now if Napoleon won

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kino

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When he charged his cavalry over a hill only to find a dozen regiments waiting in square formations

Lol, Napoleon didn't do anything wrong except stand up to an actual Anglo-jewish banker conspiracy, then fight off 7 coalitions of degenerate monarchies that oppressed their own peoples and retreated from the Enlightenment

Once I read a letter from a russian partisans who was part of the army harassing the french army during the retreat, he mentions the many prisoners they had taken, even a general. But every single time they try to charge against the Old Guard surrounding Napoleon in hopes of breaking them and capture the emperor where futile, the russian partisan describe the Old Guard like marching like an impenetrable wall or a ship that is breaking the waves of horses like nothing and making a open road for the rest of the army.

I forgot, wasn’t Russia actively at war with them? Though they likely would have been amenable to a peace since they were on the back foot.
That’s a really interesting alt-hist suggestion though, could prop up even more friendly governments to help him in future conflicts. The Polish light cavalry that joined him was one of the best features of his army

That was before he became Emperor
He did dump her for a literal Austrian princess

also kino

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Brando should have played him in the 50s or 60s.