Should I upgrade from 1080p to 4k OLED for kino watching?

who buys less than 55?

Only problem that's keeping me from getting an LG OLED TV is that they apparently have a poor filter for 720p and 1080p content.
Apparently, filter-free upscaling (which is what I prefer) is on Sony TVs but I'm not sure about others.

LG is the only one with Dolby Vision at 4K 120Hz (for Xbox Series X games and some PC games), and LG is the only one making 8K OLEDs, but LG hasn't taken the QD-OLED pill yet.
Sony is the only one with IMAX Enhanced but neither Sony nor LG have HDR10+ support. LG is the only one with G-Sync and Freesync Premium.
Panasonic and Philips support HDR10+ but have no VRR.

Thanks, any idea what happens if you play 1080p content in it? Like some movies just don't have 4k rips out.
Do they have some kind of upscaler or something?

>Panasonic and Philips support HDR10+ but have no VRR
Pretty sure the new Panasonic TVs do.

According to a friend of mine, 8K 60fps gaming is amazing on PC with the 8K LG OLED TVs, even for older games, especially for older games
He played through the Sonic Adventure games (with tons of mods to combine the best aspects of each version into one) in 8K, as well as some Bethesda open world games (Morrowind, Oblivion, Fallout 3, New Vegas, Skyrim, Fallout 4 and Fallout 76) and they were apparently amazing. He also played the original GTA Trilogy on Steam in 8K with tons of mods to make the true definitive versions
Unfortunately, while the 8K was consistent in the Sonic Adventure games, GTA, and the pre-Creation Engine games, it was less consistent in Skyrim Anniversary Edition (though it is still mostly 60fps)
Skyrim Legendary Edition was a mostly consistent 8K 60fps while Fallout 4 and Fallout 76 barely reached 60fps and were mostly above 30fps

Still, they were all surprisingly playable in 8K, and they outshine the Xbox Series X versions which are just 4K 60fps or 1080p 60fps

I plan on also gaming with the rtx 3080 ti so LG OLED makes more sense for me because of gsync i suppose. I heard I need to use Windows 11 for some of the new features though.
Can you explain what Dolby Vision and HDR10+ are?

No. Actual kinosseiurs know projectors are superior

never buy a philips tv... even though ambilight is nice

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4k is an integer multiple of 1080p, so you can play 1080p content like it was a 1080p panel, with no loss of quality or blurring

beyond that, the TV itself has upscaling capabilities, all modern TVs do
rtings reviews will tell you how it stacks up to other brands upscaling

but if you wanna do this *properly*, you should use a HTPC with a modern nvidia gpu
not a strong one, even something like a 1050ti would be plenty
this will allow you to use state of the art upscaling shaders with MPV
currently the best of the bunch is FSRCNNX, which uses a ML trained model to help with upscaling
basically the same idea as DLSS
and ofc this will be much better than any ouit of the box upscaler you will find in any TV set.
there is also Anime4k, specifically for upscaling anime (and i suppose cartoons in general), if you're a weeb

Bought an oled lg telly, is worth every penny

HDR10 (the default HDR) is just static metadata, it basically says what the minimum and maximum luminance and colour enhancement of the picture is, with no extra context.
Dolby Vision and HDR10+ are dynamic metadata, which add more variables to help the image come alive some more.
Dolby Vision can also add an enhancement layer to make that 10-bit HDR image into a 12-bit one.

Also, Windows 11 is worth it just for Auto HDR, which retrofits DirectX 11 and DirectX 12 games with HDR. It can even work for DirectX 9 and older games with dgVoodoo 2.

>no 4K120
>no Dolby Vision
>no VRR
These are my gripes. Consumer projectors are apparently made on much older and lesser technology than cinema projectors and even most high-end TVs.

Mah boi, the only OLED TVs I could find on the near grocery/appliance store/fast food chain were Philips.
At least you can buy lotsa spaghetti since it is also a fast food chain.

Of course, 1080p is laughably bad nowadays.

Don't poorshame me like that, faggot.
>tfw your TV is only 720p while your monitor is 1080p 75Hz
>at least you have FreeSync

Philips are the most underrated brand by far. Picture processing matches LG, HDR10+ support, Ambilight, decent Android OS. I work for LG and own a Philips OLED and regularly recommend them.

You can get a 4k 65" Samsung for like $500 not on sale. Are you homeless?

Mah boi! Philips TVs are what all true cinephiles strive for!

1080p is still fine. A 1080p Blu Ray disc still looks great on an OLED. HDR is a much more noticable and important upgrade. Most laymen would struggle to notice the difference between decently upscale HD and native 4K. The difference between SDR and HDR however is undeniable.

just one word: easylink

fuck that shit

Also, many movies to this day are mastered in 2K (1080p).
Many 4K UHD Blu-rays are just 1080p masters upscaled to 4K and given an HDR grade.

Can't tell if you're being sarcastic but I'd disagree anyway. Sony/Panasonic are for cinephile purists, LG is for gamers, Philips are for cosy Europeans and Samsung are trash for now but are about to release potentially the best TV on the market this year.

desu i was just planning on plugging in a usb stick and playing from that using the tv player and upscaler since using my pc connected to it and setting up MPV sounds like too much of a hassle

I was making a CD-i joke, because Philips.

Can anyone confirm alongside me that this chart is complete bullshit?
I can easily noticed a difference between 720p, 1080p, and 4K content at 6 foot away from any screen.

Mind, I have better than 20/20 vision so maybe that's it? Last check up I got compared to a fighter pilot.

True. All modern TVs are 4K now. You don't buy based on a TV's resolution but moreso for its HDR performance.

It's bullshit.

The very first TV I bought was the X900H. I bought it for PS5 and PC gaming.
I'm so fucking pissed it isn't real 4K. If I had the money I would go after Sony with a class action lawsuit.

I thought Sony was premium, I will never ever go Sony for TV's again. Completely false advertising. This isn't even mentioning the VRR issues.

im the user that posted the chart
its from rtings
they don't state where it comes from or how it was calculated, but its reasonable to assume that its based on average vision

also, per the chart, at 6 feet, 4k is worth it even for a 43inch panel, which is currently the smallest size for TVs

I'm pretty sure it is real 4K, just drops during 120hz gaming. Might be ignorant to any other issue since I don't own the TV.

>setting up MPV
So installing an .exe and dragging a video over the window?

Fair enough but a friend upgraded his 1080p TV to a 4K one, 55 Inch, and when I'm over we sit about 12 foot away (I'm estimating) and you can see the image is much better.

I dont really know what OLED is but yes and make sure it has HDR

i have a 32 inch Samsung Uj59 and it's ok but i didn't know about HDR when i bought it. i also didn't realize the pixel density would be so much smaller than im used to. kind of strains my eyes (i watch kinos on my PC)

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Yeah that's a big reason I bought it though. I use it as a gaming monitor, I wanted 4k 120Hz.
Now I'm stuck with a TV that can only do true 4K at 60Hz... Which fair enough, hard to push current games on current hardware that much past. I'm planning on getting a 4090 when it's released though, and I expected this TV to last me 5-7 years.

Also there's older games that would be cool at 4k 120Hz.

>55 Inch
>12 foot away
>you can see the image is much better.
yea, no
at that size/distance, you are 100% seeing the effects of better colors/HDR, not the benefits of the higher res
unless you're fucking hawkeye, that is.

Get the speakers. GET THE GOOD SPEAKERS!

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>if you intend to do lots of CNN viewing.

Just put on three masks, get your 9th "vaccine", bitch about not being able to afford a better TV because gas is $5 per gallon, and your groceries cost 30% more than they did a year ago.

At least you can blame your shitty TV when the president has a 5 second aneurism while trying to read the word kleptocracy.

Get you daily propaganda cock shoved in your mouth.

Buying my first TV soon. I've got RTX 3070ti, not really a gamer but I can see myself trying some fancy AAA on it. Big screen, 4k, HDR is a must. OLED would be amazing as well but how much of a problem is burn in? I wouldn't run it 24/7, I don't watch news.

Absolutely. My LG C1 was worth every penny. Once you experience it there's no going back.

I must be hawkeye then, it blows my mind that you (or the 'average' person) can't see 4k at 12 foot away.

Either that or there's miscommunications going on, 12 foot is two 6 foot men right?
How do you read license plates? Can you see the individual leaves on a tree?

I can see the very bottom line on eye tests.

Only issue with my LG OLED is judder during some panning shots

Burn-in hasn't been as big of an issue the past couple of years. The newer ones have a bunch of built in features that automatically prevent burn-in. They'll last a lot longer than the older ones.

get an lg g1 it's like a c2 but less expensive

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I can clearly see the difference between 720p and 1080p on my 1080p monitor.

could you fag share your opinions without the gayming perspective?
I guess 60hz without freesync is ok for kino watching

12 feet is 3.7meters, so yea, about 2 average mens height

to illustrate the absurdity, ill use PPD, pixels per degree (of horizontal FOV)
55inch/1080p at 12 feet is 102ppd
55inch/4k at 12 feet is 203ppd
27inch/1440p at 65cm (a pretty typical viewing distance for a monitor) is 52ppd
27inch/4k at 65cm is 78ppd

so, 55inch/1080p at 12feet offers much higher perceived pixel denseness than a even 27/4k monitor
which most people already consider too much
and you claim to be able to see the jump all the way to 200ppd
200ppd is 21inch/8k at 65cm, to put it in monitor terms
sorry user, this is pure fucking insanity

btw, if you wanna do the math yourself, this is the calculator i used:
qasimk.io/screen-ppd/

for gayming, get the LG c1 oled
or the c2, if you wanna give up BFI for marginally better colors/brightness

You need glasses user

no, you need to learn some basic arithmetic
see

I have midrange headphones

The major point you should make here is that 100 PPD is already beyond what anyone can reasonably resolve individual details at. 4k is completely worthless at this distance, because you can't possibly perceive something over 100 PPD.

Anyway, as for 4k in general, assuming you aren't a retard like that guy with a screen that's far too small for your viewing distance, for movies it's near worthless, for games it's okay, and for computing it's absolutely fantastic.

Huh? I asked not for gayming

Is 55 inch 4k fine at like 1 meter away

the original chart i posted in is a good rule of thumb

at the insane anons 12 feet, you would need a 90inch panel to make 4k worth it
but for more typical viewing distances, the common 55-77inch TV sizes are usually worth being 4k

Yes, that gives you a PPD of around 60. Personally I'd tend towards buying a 40" screen and sitting 2.5 feet away instead for the same picture, but if you have the space and money for 55" you'll be happy with it.

I recently bought one it's more than fine.

I might even go 48" if you're sitting that close.

no, you asked
>could you fag share your opinions without the gayming perspective?

for non-gaming, i believe the consensus is to go sony oled
they lack gaming features but do better with 24p judder
see hdtvtest on youtube for more details

>Pure OLED will just burn in within months

Why do retards keep repeating this stale meme? It's not 2014 anymore.

They don't even make 40+ inch 1080p tvs anymore. They're all 4k

>without the gayming perspective
I think it means I don't want for gayming
thanks will check out the channel