What started the downward decline of South Park and why was it "Bloody Mary"

What started the downward decline of South Park and why was it "Bloody Mary"

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Close. It was Apologies to Jesse Jackson. But Trapped In The Closet, this episode and Chef Returns are the build up. They believed they were social commentary guys with responsibility, instead of guys that make funny jokes.

Pandemic is where it really starts to show cracks, and Humancentipad is where it became irredeemable. Seasons 9-13 are a mix of good and bad. Season 14 is almost entirely bad-meh. Season 15 and onwards are bad.

back then it was about giving a moral in the most grotesque possible way.
now its all about pop culture and whatever is on the news at the time.
for this reason, early seasons are timeless, meanwhile the new ones are gona age badly.

Trapped in the Closet and Return of Chef are funny episodes even though I agree with you that them getting too far up their own asses about how "enlightened" they are is a big part of the problem. Bloody Mary is extremely not funny and marks a trend towards more frequent Randy-focused episodes which is another part of the problem.

I enjoyed the Tegridy Farms arc.

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Bloody Mary was one of the episodes where they were extremely timely with a current event before that was common, and the disciprine Kung Fu shit is funny.

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Season 15

They just said nigger for an entire episode and niggers ate it up. Whitey aint ever suppose to say our word. No matter what.

That’s why. They got so much press and black guys in bowties saying
>hmm yes this is genius satire of racism
they got a taste and wanted to be seen as heroes. The Peabody was the nail in the coffin.

It was the queef episode actually.

This user gets it.

BABIES COME FROM THERE

>back then it was about giving a moral in the most grotesque possible way.
you have a weird way of defining morals. it was always about two smug reddit fucks calling everybody stupid from their pedestal. both sides of a given issue are always equally retarded, look at us superior hipster douches making fun of both groups. a show for low iq retards thinking of themselves as enlightened Übermensch.

I might have enjoyed it for 1 episode, not multiple seasons of the same joke over and over and over.

>Season 15
>HumancentiPad
>Funnybot
>Royal Pudding
At season 15 these were probably 3 of the worst 5 episodes they had ever done, all in a row.

The episode I stopped watching was The Ring

I remember hating The Ring at the time, but now my frame of reference is so skewed that it doesn't even seem that bad. At least that season has Fatbeard and Butters' Bottom Bitch, both are pretty damn good episodes in an otherwise almost unbearable season.

It started to go downhill when you stopped being 14

It started when they turned Randy into the main character.

For me it was the point when I realized I was too old or too young to appreciate the show

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It was when they started doing those stupid "arcs" that never paid off. They were great when they just did standalone episodes for the fun of it. Make Love, Not Warcraft is still one of the best episodes they ever did.

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It was randy being over used

South Park was making social commentary as far back as season 4 with the Ellian Gonzales episode.

Or even with the original short that pitted Santa Claus with Jesus

>What started the downward decline of South Park
The show dropping the High Weirdness atmosphere inspired Twin Peaks and X-Files after Season 2. Just watch the first two seasons of South Park at 3am in the dark, and you'll get what I mean - you can really see those influences. It was a town where anything could happen and was tinged with weirdness. But then this context disappeared entirely, and the strange was replaced by the politics.

Matt and Trey are way too self-conscious: they actually hate the earlier seasons, which were the most kino. Now the show spends more time explaining itself than actually doing something off the wall, and pushes midwit politics on the audience - all because it has no context outside of the High Weirdness 90s, its existence doesn't make sense post 2001.

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Season 1, episode 4: Big Gay Al's Big Gay Boat Ride. There is social commentary from the beginning, the difference is it didn't feel forced in. That episode actually has a story, even if it's small, with characters and motivations. The story came first, with the social commentary on top.

New episodes are built around a current political event, with the characters awkwardly shoehorned in.

thats fine
as long as youre not excited about smoking weed lmao

>now let's see who these pirate ghosts really are!
>oh I guess they really were pirate ghosts

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Yes and that was hilarious, because they didn’t give a shit if it was meaningful or offensive as long as they found it funny. After Apologies To Jesse Jackson they became much more about social commentary and this was a cancer that rotted the show. They still had some good episodes here and there until the arcs made it one shitty episode stretched across a season.

SP unironically had their best trilogy as far as S17. The cliff began on s20 onwards

That should have been double episode at best, not 3-4 seasons around it

I'd say season 16
episode 1 of 16 is the one where clydes mom get stuck in the toilet, real dumbster of an episode if you ask me

Do you mean the PS4/Xbone Game of Thrones episode? Yeesh, those sucked ass.

Early south park was so based. First 3 seasons are the best for rewatch

I agree the "almost horror" feeling a lot of the early episodes had was great and losing that was disappointing. Stick of Truth had a touch of it too which makes it all the more disappointing that they won't actually do it on the show anymore.

I liked them. The dude yelling at Cartman for being in his garden was hilarious

thats ok anondo, just never have any kids

kys

Based episode. And it was forced on them to help promote Korn, but they managed to make it kino. And Korn was funny in the episode.

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Early Simpsons had a strangeness about it, but not the Twin Peaks / X-Files kind, more surreal and liquid

Black Friday is a masterpiece

This whole scene is so amazing, and captures exactly what made early South Park so funny. I dunno why this is the lowest rated episode of all time, just because people were mad they had to wait another week to find out who Cartman's dad was?
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It's one of the most hated episodes, but I think it's really funny.
>Don't you understand, Father Maxi, that by trying to cancel Halloween, you've scared the living hell out of everybody?
>No

Everything about Princess Zucchini was amazing. The voice over intro for the second episode is peak SP

Yes. Once they stretched a single meh joke into full episodes is when it became tedious

Aren't the only trilogies the black friday and the Imagination ones, both of which are total balls?

The problem of having many zoom-zooms talking about a series they havent really watched is that they try to cover their ignorance thinking that the oldest, the better. SP first seasons dont hold a candle to s5-15

jubilee
the coon

both pretty good. BF is the best, imagination the worst

The one where they have the televangelists fundraising for a spaceship and Sally Struthers looks like Jabba the Hutt is one of my fondest memories of television. The second or third season of pc principal is where I finally stopped watching. Probably two seasons into the tegrity farms, hard to remember where they just became not worth it. The earliest seasons were the best, when the show was less about the world and more about life in a small town.

>A Haiku called "Time to kill Doctor Jeffrey O'Dwyer"
>Doctor O'Dwyer
>Time to have your head smashed in
>With my new hammer

Oh yea fair enough, I always forget the meteor party is kind of a trilogy, and obviously the best one. The Coon original episode is ok, the trilogy though is crap.

This was in 2007, before a small group of Twitter weirdos had such a stranglehold on society.

Pretty close , Randy started being the village idiot and things began to decline. Now every episode is "Randy does something stupid"

>REEEEEE PICK A SIDE

Early South Park is fun but yeah the show hit its stride around 2002-2003. I don't get Trey and Matt's hateboner for the early eps though, they're charming

Some of the very early episodes are very hit and miss. I agree with them

Not that user but yes. Life isn't about sitting on fenceposts not committing to anything, you have to make choices. I don't want to hear a centrist's opinion about anything

kys

I think in all of the early episodes (season 1-3, say) I always find something to enjoy, except maybe Jakovasaur which is probably the single worst episode before season 11 or so.

Reminder that Wendy literally had an innocent LGBT woman murdered in S1 and then they turned her into the Always Right About Everything Voice Of Reason Feminist character, meanwhile Cartman is irredeemable for getting revenge on someone who was bullying him.

>I always find something to enjoy, except maybe Jakovasaur which is probably the single worst episode before season 11 or so
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Remember when they were kids? Exactly the same thing that happened to Lisa Simpson happened to most of the South Park characters.

It's just a cartoon you laugh at. If they do pick a side, then you fags will just bitch about it being propaganda, unless it's shit you agree with. This is why it's best to mock everything, to make as many retards seethe as possible.

no zoomer ever said that, that's nostalgic milennials you're talking about

Just them appeasing the woke crowd.

Have a drink and relax you 12 stepping faggots