>confirmed so far: >RDA retakes Hell's Gate >3 dragon motherships >new aircraft models >significant human population jump, small outoust -> small city
So it begs the question, how did human invade and recapture the base if dragon ships dont fit inside the space shuttles. Were they even imported or built on site? Do humans even have military vechiles that can deploy from space and be transported interstellarly. Or did they deploy balastic missile and opt for direct exterimination of Jake's clan from orbit?
Im thinking all in transit ships were halted and returned to earth so they can all reoutfit and arrive to pandora as a fleet >opening scene shows 10 Venture Stars arriving and deploying the invasion force Longshot but imagine the kino
The movie's own lore states that aside from the Valkyrie, most stuff is actually built in Pandora, including equipment, aircraft, mining machines, mechas, etc. using on-site metal 3D printers and locally extracted ore and manufactured composites. It would be incredibly expensive to bring all that stuff from Earth in the ISVs. Only complex electronics a which can not be manufactured locally are brought from Earth. This would imply that by the time we see the events on the trailer happening, humans will have already been back in Pandora for quite some time, possibly even years, the time needed to rebuild all that stuff.
Justin Rivera
>humans will have already been back in Pandora for quite some time, possibly even years, the time needed to rebuild all that stuff.
Not necessarily. We see in OP's clip that the humans have some kind of automated contrusction drones/bots. Maybe with those it's possible to build such a large base and all those aircraft in a matter of months. We also don't know how much human tech advanced in those years.
Dominic Watson
True I would honestly really like if the movie showed the moment humans returned (I really need more ISV shots) and took over Hell's Gate again, or maybe settled somewhere else in Pandora, but I feel like by the moment the movie begins humans will already have arrived a while ago.
No confirmation that it's Hell's Gate yet. Some RDA admins remained behind there as a maintenance skeleton crew (canon from the comics) but it could have been mothballed years later. This could be a new base. RDA ships can land anywhere on Pandora and might be keeping their distance and a low profile.
Samuel Cruz
Stop coping so much hansdeep nigelwong. People might start respecting you more (which is what you want if you want to win that culture war of yours)
Movie plot leaked, save fast before taken down: >RDA is back and with a new, more powerful base >Quaritch had a custom avatar made, he and a sidekick even more remorseless than him venture out into the jungle in the hunt for Jake and his family, so as to quell the support he'd been garnering amongst the many tribes >RDA is also setting up an underwater base, as it discovers a large basin with plenty of unobtanium >this basin is located near a place of worship for the competing ocean tribes >these tribes do an uncoordinated attack on the humans trying to lay the foundations of the mining complex at the basin but get BTFO hard >they each ask for Jake's help >Jake and his family set out to try and bring the tribes together as one, but fail in doing so >Jake has an idea, to connect with the Tudsun'Era, the pronged whale creature of legend that's portrayed as the protector to the ocean and naturally a quasi deity to the ocean tribes >much like the first movie with Toruk Makto, Jake uses the legendary beast to unite the tribes under one banner, the Na'vi banner >they now launch a coordinated attack on the humans at the basin, who have a submarine the size of 2 dragon motherships that's much deadlier >the whale is near its size, it helps taking it down, but dies in the process >Quartich manages to be a pain during the final battle but still gets defeated, yet manages to scurry off into the jungle, and then a quest for tracking him down ensues, thus setting up the sequel
There is literally no way the humans could possibly lose. If you hold space, you've won by default. Their goal is literally to destroy the forest so that they can mine what's under it. There's no reason for them to not just bombard everything from orbit and then drop down to plant a flag and declare victory.
>but I feel like by the moment the movie begins humans will already have arrived a while ago. I also think that but I'd love so see a flashback or montage of them returning and getting the base up and running.
Ryan Gutierrez
Why do you think the sequels exist? That's what their plan is. But it will fail, just like it's always failed in history.
>So anyway, we realized the only way to keep our land and resources from getting stolen from us by these greedy little trolls was to rally our race around a pagan symbol.
Cameron's smartest decision about this entire world is that he gave the humans bullets and missiles instead of energy weapons like plasma blasters or laser guns or some such. It grounds the futuristic human tech in reality. We all know how bullets and missiles work. We all know what they can do. We know what the threat is and what the human forces are capable of. Bullets and missiles are real. They are visceral. We understand why they do to a body. They aren't some vague thing with effects we don't know.
>This would imply that by the time we see the events on the trailer happening, humans will have already been back in Pandora for quite some time, possibly even years, the time needed to rebuild all that stuff. it takes place 10 years after the first movie and pandora is 4,31 light years away so at the speed of light it's 8,62 years back and forth.
Bentley Reed
Realistic lasers would be boring as fuck, the laser "beam" would almost never be visible.
Christian White
The RDA has 10 Venture Star spaceships on a loop going back and forth between Earth and Pandora. That means at the end of the first movie the next Venture Star might just be a few months or even weeks away.
Yeah but the RDA has superluminal communications (one of the few aspects I found annoying in the lore) between Pandora and Earth. If we ignore relativity, it means they could have sent another ISV loaded with shit ready to take over Pandora again before the Venture Star even arrived at Earth. Also
Hudson Turner
All CG, friend of mine works at weta and he confirmed it
>in history Can you point me to the last time humans got rekt by aliens?
Jaxon Green
>superluminal communications i don't remember that from the first movie
Zachary Perry
Based humans. I hope they win. #FuckSmurfs
Christian Powell
Maybe this time they sent more ships like the venture star to carry more people? They could have mined asteroids for minerals to quicky build their base once they landed. Like imagine if you are playing AoE II with 500 starting resources vs 10000. In the latter your base will more quicky build
Cooper Hernandez
It's not stated in the movie itself, but in the general lore
Logan Price
Apollo 13, 9/11
James Thompson
Na'vi better destroy every last ratperson invading their world
Oliver Sanders
some dude painted blue
false
Aiden Rodriguez
No but I can point you to the last time migrants got rekt by natives.
have you got a link to some official site? I would want to read about it more.
Robert Brown
>the RDA has superluminal communications (one of the few aspects I found annoying in the lore)
I don't mind it and I like how extremely limiting it is. >There is a drawback, however, in that you can only send three bits of information per hour and it is extremely costly at $7,500 per bit.
>Humans try to take over whole planet by force >Not just finding which Na'vi tribe gets shit on the most and giving them guns in exchange for mineral righta. >Not giving the dumb natives shiny trinkets and booze to win them over
Christopher Morris
What is it with jimbo's fascination with water??
Easton Davis
Based Jim is securing the billies.
Dylan Campbell
and thanks to you too
Evan Peterson
it also looks realer than other, "meatier" shots in the same trailer which are obvious CGI, which should suffice to hint you that is not, in-fact, full CGI.
Hunter Price
>>Not just finding which Na'vi tribe gets shit on the most and giving them guns in exchange for mineral righta. Why would they take the CIA approach if it has never worked, ever?
Carter Cooper
Quaritch is looking for his human body maybe?
Jaxon Harris
Maybe it's because we are 70% water and live on a water planet and need water to survive?
Probably a bit more difficult to bribe them with things to fight against their own world when they can literally connect themselves to the world mind that is their deity.
Landon Johnson
bombardment from orbit doesn't work when you have a biological super AI that can control magnetic waves on the surface.
Liam Taylor
an autist like Cameron is obviously going to have thought of answers for all of these sci-fi questions.
John Watson
>believable futuristic construction site and to think I had doubts..
Aaron Roberts
Why isn't everyone else a space enthusiast and megalomaniac? Fuck this timeline man
Gavin Myers
Why would they bother with making avatars again after it totally fucked them over last time? What's even the point of diplomacy now, that's what it seemed like they wanted them for to begin with.
Anthony King
I bet Pandora gets destroyed in Avatar 3/4 by humans deorbitting the moon itself or another moon into it.
maybe the pandora's forest are way to valuable to be completely razed. Imagine all the drugs and organic compounds that could be found to produce all sorts of products and medicines, so nuking the whole thing and making it radioactive would be a big no. Also the movie's own lore states that the RDA is forbidden from using weapons of mass destruction for all their mining operations beyond Earth.
Carter Harris
Because space is an empty and shallow pursuit. Hyperevolution with earth and mothership earth are the best paths for the future.
No. All your eggs in one basket is retarded no matter how advanced the eggs are.
Zachary Foster
>disney joint >being reviewed unfavorably by critics Pay attention dude
Logan Clark
this is how tight I grip my dick when I jerk off, I have to use viagra to fuck real pussy because I always go limp due to deathgripping my dick to numbess, can't feel anything when fucking a pussy anymore :(
Easton Johnson
As far as I'm aware nothing has been confirmed aside from the fact that somehow he's back. Maybe he survived, maybe he was revived, maybe they had a copy of his consciousness back on Earth, who knows.
Jason Murphy
Cameron is probably playing it safe by doing a similar story to the first movie only bigger, like with T2. there will be surprise elements that will act as a springboard for the rest of the films but a similar basic conflict for most of this one.
William Martinez
Jake was a marine you stupid shit
Ryan Fisher
Don't worry, we'll make sure to send the chuds on "colonization missions" every now and then.
but why do that when they can just make mechs? or if they're have to use clone people, why not just engineer some custom design that's straight up better than the cat people
Parker Taylor
>giant blue cat niggers can not into space
Hudson Ross
you know what? you're right. critics in 2009 were still independent enough to want to pander to the Actor's Guild who all hated Cameron for wanting to replace them with CGI. now they're just an extension of marketing movies and will say whatever they're paid to say.
Noah Long
>chuds *upvoted*! fellow redditor!
Brayden Miller
you'll get a timejump and you'll eat it up
Jack Moore
Idk what this buzzspeak means, but spreading out is literally the only way humans survive, long term.
Julian Barnes
Construction shit suggests built on site.
Parker Collins
>It is James Cameron's production company Lightstorm Entertainment that holds all the production rights to Avatar. >‘Production rights’ in this context refers to who has creative control. The legal body that can assert when, how, and in what volume a story, characters, merchandise, advertisement material, artwork etc. is to be created or used by a third party including the right to make money with said IP. >In the case of Avatar it is Lightstorm Entertainment that grants those rights to an entity like Disney, which only holds distribution rights.
I don't know. Perhaps lack of resources or lack of scientific know-how. Perhaps those avatars are the current best that humanity can produce. I mean they didn't create them from scratch. They literally needed the Na'vi's DNA for that.
Brayden Jenkins
>steal ships >crash would be alot of fun to watch. almost as fun as watching the Earth Fleet glass the entire planet from orbit.
Aiden Reed
So do they connect hair with a fish and breathe underwater that way or what?
Xavier King
He only replaced his scientist brother and he was assigned to the scientists you moron.
Isaiah Bell
na'vi bodies are probably better for tactical missions in the jungle, instead of big noisy and bulky mechs. Quartich hated na'vis but I'm sure as fuck he loves the idea of using a body perfectly evolved for that environment for his benefit. A tactical advantage.
Nathaniel Rivera
Why do you say that? Is the recent pic of the old uplink site? I can't see the little building.
Lincoln Russell
There's definitively one of those mobile bases in there.
