Are you waiting the Last of Us series

this post wouldn't pass a turing test

zero chance they don't have joel hit on ellie at some point

druckmann and troy baker have been pedalling the "he's no different than david" line for years

Also managed to make Amy Hennig leave.

Tlou2 was good. People shit on it because they didn‘t fully understand the story but can‘t even fucking say that the animations, graphics, gameplay and detail are top notch. Most people bitching about it never played it. I did hate the story the first time I played the game, replayed it and felt in love. Not as good as the first but still fucking good. Protip: tlou1 is not about escorting a girl to find a cure and tlou2 is not about revenge. Both are just
>ok we use this as the reason to start the story

He also booted Amy Hennig before saying there weren't enough women in high development positions.
He's one of the worst kikes out there.

why are tlou2 fans always fucking morons like this guy?

"you didn't play it!"
"ok, then you didn't understand the story"
"ok, then you're just a bigot"
"hur dur"

fucking kys faggot

>booted Amy Hennig
Ofc he would. Hennig was a talented woman that succeeded on her own merit and often mentioned that she never suffered any drawbacks from being a woman in the video game industry
She was a bigger threat to the narrative than 15 nazis in leadership position

TLOU2 was genuinely one of the more clueless ganes I've ever played.
Imagine trying to write a story about violence while having absolutely no idea what it is

I'm just glad she's working again. These scumeating fucking jews.

The didn‘t play it is not about the story you faggot. Don‘t like the story who gives a fuck, it‘s a videogame. The animations, graphics, the level design and gameplay are still top notch regardless what you troon think about the story

never played it so no not really

>The animations, graphics, the level design and gameplay are still top notch
Yea if you have never played actually good videogames before. It's standard fare on rails 3rd person shooter. It does nothing that Resident Evil 4 didn't do more than a decade ago. The narrative carried that fucking game. Without the story Last of Us would be nothing.

Let me spell it for you user. The game is neither about revenge nor about violence. It‘s about coping with loss.
Both protags stories are basically the same
>loose dad
>be haunted of nightmares of his death
>look for a way to feel better and think it‘s revenge
>nothing changes (this is abby only)
>find a new meaning in life (for abby it‘s
the kids, for ellie it‘s dina and her kid)
>live your life

>I'm just glad she's working again
Me too. Before hearing the news that she was currently heading a new game I had heard that she basically quit the gaming industry.
God, what a disgustingly dishonest kike. All of them. They'll whine endlessly about representation and marginalized groups but when you tell them to vacate their positions for their beloved minorities they recoil.
Druckmman is a hack carried off by the work of his partners that kicked out a genuinely talented woman all the while praising the astroturfed extraordinare Anita

you're a retard

the entire selling point of the last of us is the story and characters. that's why the first game, a basic cover shooter, is considered one of the greatest games of all time.

it's not a mortal kombat game, moron.

I got the game for 10 dollars (actually have to go pick it up from Best Buy today.) The first one was worth the 5 bucks I paid for it, so if this is any better than that I'm happy I guess.

>hurr durr it has zombie so it‘s not better than re4
Go fuck off.

Amy Henning without Neil Druckman OH NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO youtube.com/watch?v=MEEm5jd464Y

>praising open drawer simulator 2000

He got away with it because the video game industry is pathetically desperate to legitimize their medium as a serious art form (it isn't) and Druckmann was the best guy for the job since Naughty Dog was already known for making games with strong narratives.

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> that's why the first game, a basic cover shooter,
Why are you plebs even talking if you never knew the good parts about the games? Tlou is more of a survival horror game than cover shooter. Especially when player on higher difficulties

>The game is neither about revenge nor about violence.
How much of the game involves killing?

look, it's trying to think

They create the problems thay claim to fight. Like you said, they spin a narrative and eliminate any contradiction to that narrative.

it's central gameplay mechanic is a cover shooter, you absolute sperg

>literally a Jewish infiltrator and subverter

wow no wonder he liked The Rise of Skywalker, Jew Jew Abrams tanked the franchise just like Druckmann tanked Naughty Dog

>Tlou is more of a survival horror game than cover shooter. Especially when player on higher difficulties
>pretending that shit was remotely hard

Do a no kill run

Probably wrote an early draft. 7 writers means the game is currently nothing like what she wrote.
Now pic related: THAT is Hennig without Druckmann.

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>the video game industry is pathetically desperate to legitimize their medium as a serious art form
This. Imagine not laughing David Cage out of the room everytime he opens his dumb french mouth
>(it isn't)
It's as legitimate as any commercial art

>Amy Henning without Neil Druckman
>bad
idiot, utter buffoon.

it was just the first game again
I watched my brother play it, he really liked it
he also really likes big mouth

So's this.

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Does the game recognize your no-kill run? Does the story change with it? Can you not kill Joel, Nora, Owen and other generically named non-characters on said run?

It's not though. The medium of video gaming entails direct interaction and simulation. That's totally different from a novel or an opera which challenge the audience instead of molding to their whims. That's the whole reason why game developers have to import features from other artistic mediums to even be considered art. The Last of Us 2 is acclaimed by gaming journalists because of its cinematic elements rather than its gaming elements. If it were a movie, it would be completely mediocre and forgotten in favor of much better revenge stories

Druckmann is the kind of idiot who hears the term "strong female character" and thinks it literally means a physically strong female character than can easily beat up all the male characters despite being smaller than them.

Look at Nadine in Uncharted 4. Absolutely zero character depth. But strong, so strong, and female, and black! He's a fucking idiot.

Yeah, Uncharted were always dumb fun games who justified their existence with impressive action setpieces that were new at the time
How is "secret brother we never heard about" better?

so they both suck good to know Naughty Dog peaked at Crash Bandicoot on PS1 anyways

>Tlou is more of a survival horror game than cover shooter.
>survival horror
No it's not.
Thanks for conceding dipshit.

disgusting

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>game is about violence
>no it‘s not, you can not kill anyone in regular gameplay
>CAN I ALSO NOT KILL STORY RELATED CHARACTERS AND COMPLETLY CHANGE THE GAMES STORY?!
yes and in mario games you can also not save princess peach. Just turn the game off right after the start

I feel like allowing the character to do as they want can result in some greater meaning than a film ever could. You engross yourself into the story and react to the things happening and then you have to do something about the etchings happening in a story. The lack of passivity as well as proper game design can be artistic.

>The Last of Us 2 is acclaimed by gaming journalists because of its cinematic elements rather than its gaming elements.
I don't dispute this part, but the one where you claim interactivity kills the artistic sense

It's not. Uncharted 4 didn't involve Hennig.

pedo pascal, defender of child rapists

Also one difference is you actively trigger the story etc. e.g. you watch a horror movie and you are not that good with it. Just close your eyes for a few secs and done. But with vidya you need to play through all of that. Regardless if you want it or not.

>yes and in mario games you can also not save princess peach. Just turn the game off right after the start
My God the cope
Mario is about saving Peach
So you admit that the game is about violence? Or will you cope some more

No it wasn't it was hot fucking garbage and no amount of copium laced damage control will change that.

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>Uncharted 4 didn't involve Hennig.
That's... my point

A lot of retards on this board. You have to clarify to get anything said.

I can use that tone is hard to pass in written form and things get confusing with lot's of replies

Rise of Skywalker is the ultimate pleb filter. It makes söylords seethe

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He should co write a video game with Emil Pagliarulo, I wonder what kind of "result" they'll make.

my favorite moment was when chuds found out he was also responsible for the first game which they liked because it was before 2016 election so now, to ease their dissonance, they are doing mental gymnastics and search for the tiniest crumb of info to say that AKCHYUALLY he had nothing to do with the first game. They put his name as director and main creator because he JEWED his way up the ranks.

you wouldn't care about this game, as you don't care about 100 other games if it weren't for couple of influential internet personas that tricked you into believing you are literally saving the white civilization by hating this game in an ostentatious manner. I'm not exaggerating. Look at /pol/cels and how serious they are about it. It's a holy crusade against jewish sjw satan for them.

And when exactly does the author of this pasta realize that there is something called plot armor? Like every other videogame has and will always have. Nathan Drake literally went on and killed like 1600 people in a single play through. Survived bazookas and helicopters. So I am pretty sure he is not allowed to be killed in a cutscene? At the end of every jrpg you are the richest dude in the world and reaching 99 let‘s you oneshot everything so it‘s not allowed that one character still dies in a cutscene?
Also why the fuck would there be any guard outside when there is a fucking snowstorm in the middle of nowhere with zombies? Btw. Tommy tells joels name first. So even if joel would told a different name abby already knew he was joel

The point isn't whether or not video games are truly artistic. I find many games to be beautiful and more emotionally resonant than movies I've seen. But they aren't "serious" art. Druckmann makes games like he's trying to win the Palme d'Or and journalists are LARPing like they're art critics akin to a 21st century John Ruskin for video games. That's the problem

>pic
What about the blatant retcons?
The whole point of the first one was that it was am ambiguous ending. There was no guaranteed that killing Ellie would provide a vaccine, you find written reports of failed operations with other immune people and the hospital they were operating as this dingy and filthy thing
In the sequel the thing was a marvel of pristineness and cleaning and clearly the surgery was the last hope of humanity

you are deranged

no wonder last of us 2 sucked balls

>he was also responsible for the first game
The majority of the work was done by others.
>AKCHYUALLY he had nothing to do with the first game
Nobody said this. See above. His involvement was the primary effort.

You need to stop putting words in other peoples mouths. And also get better insults. The "chud" slur is anemic as fuck. Swear to god its like listening to a 5th grader trying to talk shit to a high schooler and failing miserably to land a single hit.

I got curious about amy henning and after reading some news.

thegamer.com/amy-hennig-naughty-dog-nolan-north-uncharted-4-dismissal/

There is no confirmed source that she was forced out and the rumor about that has been debunked by its own creator (I think)

She didn't say anything on why she left Naughty Dog but I think it definitely has to do with the creative direction of her and Neil.
Still, on Twitter, She still follow Neil Druckmann and strangely she also follow George Alexopoulos (twitter.com/GPrime85) despite the fact that she's definitely left leaning.
Is she the based one?

That's a reddit narrative. Truth is most people are idiots.

the uncharted games are a writing abomination. Soul Reaver is interesting but the cool parts are 95% your imagination and 5% bullshit mystery that she has no idea what to do with. She is just as bad as druckman

> There was no guaranteed that killing Ellie would provide a vaccine, you find written reports of failed operations with other immune people and the hospital they were operating as this dingy and filthy thing
No you don‘t. Ellies case is the first ever and nothing like this happens. The whole theme
Neil had when writing the game was
>how far would you go for someone you love
Sure you are like
>did joel do the right thing or not
And that‘s something you don‘t need to
write a fucking essay about. The only retcons that happened are
>doc is suddenly white(which pol chuds should love)
>ellie didn‘t know joel lied when it was implied she knew (but I guess this was just me)
>ellie is uglier

>Bioshock Infinite being the Citizen Kane of video games.

FUCKING KEK>

prove me wrong

>The majority of the work was done by others.
yet studio decided to put his name in the front. Probably some internal jewish politics involved, right?

> And also get better insults. The "chud" slur is anemic as fuck. Swear to god its like listening to a 5th grader trying to talk shit to a high schooler and failing miserably to land a single hit.
this nigga seething

>The point isn't whether or not video games are truly artistic. I find many games to be beautiful and more emotionally resonant than movies I've seen.
Agreed.
>But they aren't "serious" art
In the sense that it's impossibly for the medium to do so, or that there aren't enough examples to make them worthy if the label?
>Druckmann makes games like he's trying to win the Palme d'Or and journalists are LARPing like they're art critics akin to a 21st century John Ruskin for video games.
I understand that. I mentioned Cage earlier, whose writing would get him booted of a third rate telenovela and yet people slobbered on his gay knob endlessly with Heavy Rain. Standards for videogames writing are very low, but to me that doesn't preclude the actually good points from being good

>There is no confirmed source
as with most of the green arrows in the post you're responding to.

>I find many games to be beautiful and more emotionally resonant than movies I've seen.

Such as? Most games i've seen are a joke.

>Bioshock infinite
>The citizen Kane of vidya
I can't breathe!

>There is no confirmed source that she was forced out
There's a recent interview with Nolan North where he talks about Uncharted 4's restructuring and he says she was fired
>and the rumor about that has been debunked by its own creator (I think)
That was a PR excuse to pretend it wasn't true