How the fuck would gimli (or anyone else) not know Minas Moria had fallen?? Didn't it happen decades before?

they did in the books. If you find yourself asking questions like this about the films, you should already know the reason by now.

>They didn't have internet back then
Look at that fucking retard

It's for dramatic effect that they are unaware of Balin getting absolutely dunked on

only saruman and sauron were using palantirs

No retard, Denethor was also on the zoom call and got PTSD from Sauron screen sharing

Yeah, no shit. Gandalf did have a pager though.

Gimli knew his kin Balin had went on an expedition, from Erebor, to reclaim Moria. By the time of the Council of Elrond, the dwarves had lost contact with the expedition for some months.

>some months
15 years actually

not a lot of time in dwarf years

They don't exactly have phones, user.

Has he ever actually been there? Balin went to re-settle it some time back but it had been lost to the dwarves before that well before Gimli was born

False, Denethor got driven nuts using the palantir in Minas Tirith. He wasn't under Sauron's power but he had been driven to total despair.

what's a nigger's favourite food?

The internet was down in that particular area, they tried calling but didn't know his phone number. What else is there to communicate? Watsapp, snapchat, instagram DM's?

You really think a cave system that big only had 1 exit? C'mon man

The other exit is the endless stair and good god is it a quad workout. It's miles of winding stairs to the top of the mountain

So why would gimli suggest they go through moria like his cousin was already well established there?

they didnt have cellphones way back when

It's so funny to me that most of the Dwarves in the Hobbit movie met brutal deaths and their corpses are in LOTR.

It was that or go over some cold ass mountains. Also Balin would throw them a feast with salted pork. Gimli loved salted pork.

No one had the heart to tell him Balin and all the other dwarves were fucking dead

Such as?

I only remember balin and the trolls that turned into stone

He's exaggerating, only Balin and 2 others died at Moria and the rest who survived The Hobbit just fucked around in the Lonely Mountain until they died of old age

What is up with niggers asking dumb questions that would be answered by reading a single paragraph from a fucking book? Actually, nevermind. It makes perfect sense.

The movie is pretty confused. The way it's portrayed is indeed weird.

In the novel, Moria had been lost a very long time ago. I don't remember all the names, but a group of dwarves from the Lonely Mountain attempted to retake Moria seeing it as their ancient home. They had some success early on, but communication stopped and no one knew what became of them.

So that's all the Fellowship knows going into it. They're not sure what they might find there, but were hopeful they'd encounter friendly dwarves. None of this is spelt out in the movie and it doesn't make a ton of sense.

That's just a side entrance meant to be used by elves

kinda like secret synagogue entrances/tunnels

elvish coverup. only people that knew were on the dark web, so it was mostly right wing conspiracies about it falling.

I'm so tired of this meme.

MEAT OFF THE BONE

they're real though. all buildings in a city have secret tunnels leading to local synagogues so jews can get around faster

No, more like this. It even includes a literacy test

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what meat did they eat? how could they raise livestock in a mine?

They eat little orc babies from their little orc cradles

Pardon me rabbi

The rats get plump and fat down there, master Hobbit.

Each other.

Pooooo!

why would dwarves use an elvish word to get into their mine?

It's my understanding that the dwarves in the Hobbit and such are just an expedition into Moria which they already knew fell long ago. Gimli is excited to see Balin because for what he's heard, it's presumably been a successful expedition. But it's not like Balin was one of Moria's kings or anything, he's just an expedition leader.

Everyone knows in the books. I don't know why Hackson thought it was necessary to pretend everyone but Ganfalf didn't know about Moria was taken over. So we can have an inconsequential scene where Gimli blubbers for five seconds?

Gummi talking about it sums all of that up pretty nicely.

There used to an Elvish city not far away, the doors of Durin were specifically built to trade with them, they sealed them when the Elves got fucked by Sauron

he had to cut out a lot of inconsequential singing and dicking around to be fair. Like half the first book is all in the Shire lol

The dwarves and elves didn't hate each other at one point, and everyone loves elvish

That walk from Hobbiton to Bree was kino tho

Maybe I should re-read. It's been 20 years

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Lord of the Rings is one book separated into three volumes.

I'm reading through it for the first time and I already relish the thought of re-reading it

You should. I recently did and found myself enjoying it a lot more than in my youth.
I used to be annoyed by the songs and poetry, now I loved it.

Cause they require passwords to be 16 characters long, with two #s and two symbols, and it can't be a common word. He should have clicked "forgot password" button

He did in the book, but he'd also forgotten his username and hadn't used that email address in over a decade so couldn't even recover the password. Honestly it's a blessing Jackson saved us from the whole scene, it really drags

It's a tomb

It was built for the Elves back when they were less at odds with each other

Okay, but why couldn't they just have one of the eagles fly to Moria and check out out one every few months.