Realistically, who do you think will be the main villain in the sequel?

deathstroke

Probably Joker again. Sadly.

It doesn't matter what he wants. The movie didn't make a billion, so the suits will demand the sequel to have a wider reach and appeal.

Firefly, a crazed serial arsonist and bomber. Victor Zsasz. Hush with the Court of Owls in the background.

But actually most likely it'll be Joker

I wouldn't mind Hush, but this is a stipulation that could mean Pattinson getting paid for both roles, if they choose to unmask Hush.
Mad Hatter could also be used as an excuse for a more fantastical villain while still keeping it realistic, like in Jacob's Ladder.

He's gonna do Joker.

They already used up Hush for a throwaway reference.

Joe Manganiello still hasn't officially stepped down from the role and he changed his IG profile pic to Deathstroke a few months back, which means they could still do a solo film with him.
I doubt he'll be crossing over with Pattinson.

Court of Owls with them using the whacky Batman villians to do their dirty work.

wut?

>realistically

Warner ices everything DC while they look for a creative lead and you don't see another Batman for a decade or so. They've hilariously mismanaged their films, this flopped, and it's already leaked they're looking for a Feige type to fix things.

Calendar man, Mad Hatter and that old guy with the gangster puppet.

I want clayface but it's literally never going to happen.

>this flopped
retard

Mr. Freeze only "grounded and realistic", like some proto vigilante going around capturing leaving frozen dead bodies of criminals/dregs because he experiments on them looking for a cure for his frozen wife.

In the movie he was a reported who uncovered Waynes' secrets and got killed by Falcone. Even if they brought him back, he'd be too old.

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two face

The Ventriloquist was already done in a "realistic" way in one of the comics that served as a quasi-prequel to this film, so I wouldn't be surprised if they bring him on board.
Don't expect more than a cameo though.

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Whoever it is, they'll be butchered beyond recognition.

that's thomas elliot?

They should have begged Christian Bale to return as Batman with Henry Cavill's Superman. Then fucking bite the bullet and make a Ryan Reynolds sequel to Green Lantern and accept that origin movies of character that casual moviegoers aren't familiar with can be tricky but you already have him established. Just rework the suit and have Reynolds be less...Ryan Reynolds. The rest of the cast is whatever, Gal Gadot is fine as Wonder Woman, who cares? But what were they thinking with Flash?

Not in the pic, that's Thomas Wayne. the Riddler says the name Thomas Elliot though.

by your logic nearly every character has been "butchered beyond recognition" compared to their original appearances decades and decades ago.

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Would've been cool for Manganiello to get the chance to have an actual role in a Batman movie, but yea it would fuck with the universe/timeline they're trying to establish here. In any case, if there's one take on Batman where he and Deathstroke go at it it's this one

Baby doll

Hopefully it's Mr Freeze. Realistically it's Joker

>Gotham is flooded
You just FUCKING know

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Christian Bale as Deathstroke

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But it feels like you have to raise, or at least match, the stakes a little bit. The last movie ended with Riddler exploding van bombs and flooding the city and almost pulling off killing the entire elite of Gotham with a meticulously planned mass shooting. This after leading Batman and the police around by the nose killing very important people

Some guy leaving bodies around really isn't that big of a deal. I honestly wouldn't know what to do after that. You'd need some mass mayhem or a really sinister plot.

I hope joker is contained to the arkham series.

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Croc is shit and literally doesn't have anything that makes him special.

Ben Affleck as WRATH

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Sportsmaster.

lmao

eco terrorist poison ivy + circus themed joker

Croc and Grundy bring out the more empathetic side of Batman

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I know what you mean but I personally don't like the idea of upping the stakes every time

watch them give him an iron man suit in the sequel

Characters have changed over time, sure. Most of the time, they're still recognizable as what they're supposed to be when you view those changes as a continuum. There's no universe in which somebody would look at garbage bags over there and think, "Obviously, this is the Riddler." He's worse than Nolan's Bane was, who at least had the dignity of keeping his mask on.

There's an elseworlds comic where Croc's offspring kills the entire rogues gallery and Batman didn't give a shit at all. He almost seemed happy that they're dead.

The Fisherman, because Gotham is flooded.

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It's going to be centered around Arkham. So Scarecrow and Hugo Strange with cameos from Joker and Riddler.

>by your logic nearly every character has been "butchered beyond recognition" compared to their original appearances decades and decades ago.
The characters have been refined over decades into their best forms by generations of artists. The longest lasting, most common features were chosen by a succession of writers and artists because they were very cohesive. Some guy's new radical hot take on the Riddler is not going to be better than the general, regular, comic authentic Riddler.

Movie Riddler is less different from traditional Riddler than BTAS Freeze from his pre-BTAS comic book self.

Ereaser Man (look it up, he is a real Batman villain)

>There's no universe in which somebody would look at garbage bags over there and think, "Obviously, this is the Riddler."
In this latest movie he is basically just Hush and the Zodiac killer mashed together, with a question mark drawn on a random green outfit.

literally all of these characters are different from writer to writer you dumb nigger, whether it be in comic format, movie format, video game format or cartoon format. such is the nature of characters written by hundreds of different writers over decades.

for me it's zeus

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hopefully it's worth watching not like this one

Joker and Two Face. They'll try to beat Dark Knight and fail miserably.

it'll be set during easter

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I mean of course it's going to be 5 different villains that all steal screen time from each other like Batman and Robin.

Visually, I meant. You're right about Mr Freeze, but he at least still looked like Mr Freeze, and as far as characterization went, he was still ice-themed. This Riddler is a different take, but he's still a riddle-based villain, he just looks nothing like the character. It's like the boring black costumes from the X-Men movies, but at least those characters had other defining features that remained present.

>literally all of these characters are different from writer to writer
Each iteration has similarities with others, carrying over the good ideas. Changing the good established characters until they are only superficially the character is faggotry. Riddler in the movie just wears green, likes Riddles and is intelligent. Other than that he is completely different. It's not like other works where they took a half failed character concept from the 1960s and then made it good. It's not like BTAS where they introduced Harley.

That isn't what happened in Batman and Robin

>Riddler in the movie just wears green, likes Riddles and is intelligent.
yea, so he's the riddler. same difference between current comic book riddler and BTAS riddler.

Brittchan cameo