In all seriousness, what would a 2023 sequel to The 40-Year-Old Virgin look like if Andy HADN'T finally lost his virginity at the end of the original?
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One Hour Photo, more or less. At 40 you still have your virility, and remain sexually viable in some sense (you're still close to peak male attractiveness, late thirties). After 55 or so you're truly old and busted. And if a virgin or only sexually abused as a kid while the jerks took polaroids of you, you withdraw further into your crazy inner world and wallow in sadness at how you've wasted your life (intensified by the death of your parents) until one day you snap and try desparately to re-establish contact with other human beings.
I am 32 years old and I am going to suicide at 35. Thats my plan.
I don’t get what your obsession with this film is. Is it a got-you thing you feel like you’re hitting incels with? Is it a just a movie you really like? Do you just relate to the protag? I don’t really know. But his character is at least charming despite being a virgin. I dont think he would ever turn into an incel, he’s still friendly and social albeit a nerd and a little awkward
I'm going to suicide on June 6, I'm 29. I simply cannot take this anymore.
I'll be doing it by charcoal burner.
I am an incel, idiot, also buzzword harder, please.
Alright, sorry. Damn. I at least took the time to write out a thoughtful response to your thread. I genuinely wasn’t sure of the motivation behind it, that’s all. If you’re social and want to get a girlfriend, you’ll eventually find one if you keep looking. You’ll have to compromise or settle, but that’s normal. It really isn’t hard. I’ve turned down fat girls before, but even I turned down 6’s who wanted to fuck because I used to have way too big of an ego. Maybe you do as well, I don’t know, just something to think about
Why not try some more? I am still trying to improve my life but I honestly dont have too much time anymore. If you fail to improve your life till 35 its truly over.
What’s wrong with living a simple, peaceful, humble life if that’s the case? If you’re 35 and still a failure you can get some type of cozy job, and live an easy life
The world needs more serial killers.
People are too bold and need to be afraid again.
Well, after 13 years of neeting I am trying to do exactly that.
>Human beings are mean to you for half a century
>"God, i desperately need to form bonds with strangers"
Sounds unlikely
I don't have it in me to try some more.
There’s always some state work. You could become a mailman. A trashman. It will give you a steady living and eventually a pension. Those are just the easy jobs, though. If you want to make more there’s always unions and what not
Why?
I am applying for those jobs currently.
You should look up when Colonel Sanders started his business, also stop being so blackpilled you’re still young man
Being a mailman isn't an easy job. You get shit hours and they satellite track your position at all times.
Thanks for your kind words. Maybe you have a point. Maybe I am too pessimistic.
Nice, good luck, they’ll probably give it to you. Being a mailman is actually what I imagine as peak cozy, you just get to drive around and listen to podcasts or audiobooks, or maybe music. Hardly sounds like work to me
I work for a small business and sometimes get given grunt work like picking up parts from somewhere, and driving a few hours is easily the most relaxing part of working. It would sure beat working at a front desk at a BMV or something tedious and horrible
I just don't fucking want to, okay?
The tragedy of being human is that we are an innately social species, even the schizoids and introverts (and the schizoids are maladaptive for the very reason that they are asocial). I don't like it, but it's true. Sy's creepy stalking/reaching-out to the family was his clumsy way of trying to do exactly what I just described.
Okay, I am sorry.
I'm nearing 40. All my friends are married with children. A productive member of society. When I die, It'll take a week before anyone notices. It is what it is.
You probably have depression. No matter how bad your life is, facing the world like it’s a challenge to overcome is always worth the effort. If you stop letting pain or the fear of failure bother you, life is good. As JFK once said “don’t ask for an easy life, ask to be a stronger man” it’s a good quote
It's talked about because the premise is treated as absurd and comedic despite it being everyday life (or a very plausible future) for most here. Doesn't help that the plot glorifies marrying a single-parent grandma as "making it".
>friends
hoo boy every get a load of this friend-haver over here
fuck a prost before you do if you're ending it anyway what you gotta lose
I tried organizing that in the past but I could never manage to get one that looked decent and responded and/or wanted to meet.
Why not do something you've never done before? You could travel the world, rob a bank (in mincraft) or just go to a club every night until you find someone to have sex with.
I don't have time for that, I'm not delaying it, and I don't care about doing any of that.
>I don't have time for that
Why not? Why June 6?
He was a volcel and he got pussy at the end. Maybe if they did an asian remake.
Whatever (1999) is the true incel film, the main character of that has been described as the 'Proto-Incel'.
lmao suicidal incel won't fuck a prosty because they don't meet his standard
>Why not? Why June 6?
Just worked out that way. June 6 just feels right and worked. Why do you keep asking me fucking why. Shut up.
It’s still a little absurd. Ask yourself a few things? Do you have social anxiety? Are you a shut-in? Do you have a basic level of social skills and ability to communicate? If you answer no, no, yes, and you’re still a virgin by the time you’re 40, that is a little absurd. I mean, in the movie he’s basically just represented as a man child. He settled for someone who had flaws too. She was a grandma, but still hot for 40. He had his own quirks too. As far as settling goes, there’s a lot worse. You’re taking the message of the movie so wrong. It should be inspiring, that even if you were a fuck up socially until you were 40, you can still find love, it’s wholesome for both men and women. If you’re a girl and had kids with an asshole and now have a fucked up family, there’s still a good person who is out there for you too
If you have to pay for it it must be worth the money, you dumb roastie. Why the fuck would he give money to an uggo.
I don't even have high standards I just want a white, preferably blonde one but I can't find any that look natural.
My ultimate fantasy is that sort of average looking Midwestern pale blonde white slightly chubby woman.
Why would a beggar be so fucking choosy?
Whats with all the stigma in our society about killing yourself and "just try harder bro" meme? Its like people want you to feel like a criminal for taking your own life
>It’s still a little absurd
It's not, social media and especially dating sites have made it harder for an introverted, below-average male to find a partner. And being an incel is nowhere near as flawed as being someone so dumb as to have kids with an asshole and such a shitty parent that your daughter becomes a teen mom. Incels should settle, but not for bottom of the barrel women. Leave single moms to drug dealers and funkopop-collecting simps.
On that note, he wasn't even really a manchild. He had girlfriends in the past, he has a stable job and his own house, is intelligent and in shape. It's a distorted view on incels and manchildren and someone like him DEFINITELY shouldn't settle for a single-parent grandma.
It’s just a bad idea to fuck a prostitute to lose your virginity. Odds are it’s not going to be a positive experience. It will probably be awkward, and you’ll come out worse from it. If being a virgin is really something you’re that ashamed of, you should work on some self confidence, not fucking a prostitute which is pretty sad. A pity fuck is probably not even as bad as that. So beyond the pickiness the attitude is just dumb
Because, presumably, he's begging for free pussy, not one that costs money. In that he can get to be choosy, as he should.
33 bros, Im keep going tho, Im seeing this shit through 70 Ima be that cool ass skinny grandpa
>you should work on some self confidence
>dude just stop being depressed
Thank for the life advice guru.
Fucking a prostitute is obviously a last resort, nobody wants to do it as their first time but it's still better than NEVER having sex in your life.
I lost my virginity at 16, it was really easy, I don't know whats wrong with you guys. Also wish I never had to deal with women, it's way more trouble than it's worth.
Because it feels wrong to people on an instinctual level. That's also why so many people who are suicidal never actually manage to kill themselves.
Why are you guys always so hostile when people give you advice and encouragement? You're literally bottom of the barrel genetic trash who can't get laid during the most promiscuous time in human history and you still have the nerve to be rude when you receive empathy.
Her daughter was old enough that he basically wouldn’t even have to be a step dad. Who else do you think he should get? Someone who is 20 and never had any relationships yet isn’t going to want to be with a 40 year like him, most likely. If you wait that long to get into a relationship or find someone, it’s very common they had other relationships before that. Either they’re super young, or maybe have some problem of their own if they never been in a relationship either that late. He was obviously a massive nerd. But he had mainly positive qualities. That’s why he’s a likable character. Imagine if he was a 40 year old virgin but had a lot of the negative attitudes of an incel, that would be way less flattering and not as good of a message. Maybe it would be more fitting, I don’t know, but it wouldn’t be a good movie that way. Don’t expect to get into a relationship with someone who has way more to offer, basically. No 20 year old who is hot would want to date him. And not a lot of other 30’s people never had kids or found a relationship by that point. He did very well for himself all things considered. He married someone hot and not too much of a crazy bitch
Not him, but it often comes across as condescending and out of touch. "Take a shower", "hit the gym", "just be confident" and other classics are the most obvious advice. A lot of the time it's not that simple. Also:
>Why are you guys always so hostile
He made a very tame sarcastic remark and you react with
>You're literally bottom of the barrel genetic trash
Do you have no self-awareness?
>empathy
It's not empathy, it's uninformed advice at best and humble bragging at worst, both of which are always better if kept for one's self. Not to mention there's definitely no empathy in calling someone "picky" and "dumb".
Your bluff got called normalfag, you're not a good person just because you had sex. Now seethe harder at being outsmarted by a "bottom of the barrel genetic trash".
>empathy
If you really had any empathy you wouldn't call them bottom of the barrel genetic trash
A lot of people have been in similar spots to these ‘incels’ or virgins in here. The difference is a lot of people matured sometime around their teenager years, or early 20’s. People who are stuck in their ignorance and flawed ways of thinking shouldn’t really be being sarcastic. Often times if you’re a virgin it is the simplest things stopping you from having sex. There’s really ugly people who get married or find relationships. If you’re not finding a relationship or struggle losing your virginity, stop blaming society, or something unchangeable about yourself. You can at the very least date someone inside the same league as you, as long as you’re a normal social person
The alternative to "hot virgin girlfriend" isn't a "single-parent grandma". Getting with someone with past relationships and around his age would have been fine enough. The movie tries to drive home that being a virgin by that age is absurd and a major flaw, so they have him marry someone way below his league.
But if its instinct why wasnt suicide looked down on in other cultures like ancient rome or medieval japan?
>most promiscuous time in human history
Free market always leaves a huge underclass of losers. Monogamy was basically sexual socialism and now its gone
She isn’t way below his league. Honestly, the guy doesn’t have an awful lot to offer either. I mean he’s fine. But he’s a nerd in his 40 working at a video store. He’s not like a major hot shot. His biggest positive is just his personality, he’s a really good guy, and that’s why he found a hot woman who needed a good guy in her life, and they fit with each other and were happy. He’s not in a super low league, but he definitely isn’t swinging much better than her
If you say something stupid, the least you should expect is a sarcastic remark.
Having sex early isn't a sign of maturity either, it comes down to a lot of factors but nothing makes it a mark of being a good or mature person.
Virginity among people is rising, and birthrates are decreasing, among most western countries and then some. There's definitely something wrong with society, and sometimes something unchangeable is exactly what's stopping others from having sex with you.
You don't know what you're talking about, which is why you're made fun of.
He's not a hot shot no, but he's leagues above a dumb woman who couldn't choose who to have kids with, how to be a proper parent or how to handle her own fucking job. Beyond a good personality he had to offer a stable income and good genetics (or decent at least, since the movie also pretends Carrell isn't handsome). Again, a single woman his age with past relationships would have been fine. It takes a series of serious fuck ups in a row to be a single-parent granma with a shitty job.
>Your relationships should be based on how high on the social totem pole you are
The fact you see this as normal and good is concerning. Not even an incel myself
Also
>Hot woman
Made fun of by who? You can’t just have a non understanding outlook of the world and on other people, and then complain about people being non empathetic when they actually have an empathetic conversation with you about it. Sorry if it sounds rude, or mean, but honestly, it’s a little ridiculous so it needs to be criticized. I don’t know how unattractive some people are. Maybe very unattractive. But taking care of your body, being decently groomed, and having a good haircut and whatever makes 99.9% of people at least fuckable. Even if you’re going to be settling for 4’s or whatever. It isn’t hard. I’m not overly outgoing, or good looking, and I’ve had girlfriends before. I’ve had girls initiate hook-ups at parties and stuff. You just have to stop being self centered or having a big ego, or maybe being incredibly insecure. It doesn’t matter what, but deal with your social issues first, and I guarantee most people will find other social people who just want to fuck someone moderately social and ok looking
>The difference is a lot of people matured sometime around their teenager years, or early 20’s. People who are stuck in their ignorance and flawed ways of thinking shouldn’t really be being sarcastic.
There you go, you're being condescending again. You don't really want to understand or help people, you just want to feel good about yourself by giving out generic advice.
Are you seriously implying thats not the case? You must be very naive
A pity fuck is even worse imo since you actually care about the other person's opinion. It's even more pointless than paying for sex.
That’s how real life works. You probably don’t always view it as consciously as that, but that’s the truth of almost every relationship. If you see a hot girl with a fat older guy you just assume he’s incredibly rich
I'll help you instead of this guy. Imagine yourself for a minute. Your mannerisms, your speech patterns, the subjects that your mind revolves around. It's pretty obvious if you haven't gotten laid yet that you are either autistic or a total faggot. Every fiber of your being is probably wrong and you need to toughen the fuck up. I'm guessing the mere motions of your muscles and your coordination alone repulses women.
bruh u aint had to do me like that..
>You can’t just have a non understanding outlook of the world and on other people, and then complain about people being non empathetic when they actually have an empathetic conversation with you about it.
You're the one who complained first about a lack of empathy, and it has been pointed out by many why you (or the user who made that post at least) wasn't being empathetic at all.
Again you persist of giving inane advice like "have a good haircut" or "stop being self-centered". You've made a strawman in your head and are telling him either extremely vague advice or rude assumption about his character, for the purpose of (I'm guessing) pimping yourself up as some underdog who "still made it". On an anonymous image board, no less.
I'm an incel but I'm not a retard, whatever dumb shit you're selling I'm not buying.
He'd be trans
What I meant was that killing yourself takes a big amount of willpower to overcome that instinct, so when you relate to someone else, you feel that instinct and don't want them to kill themselves.
As far as Japan goes, I believe ritual suicide was seen as a last resort, a necessary sacrifice to restore your honor.
In Rome you had to get permission from the senate for your suicide and for some groups like soldiers it was completely illlegal.