Why did it flop?

idk i paid money to go see it at my local kinoplex

Illigitinate sequel that's absolutely hideous while it's predecessor is one of the all time greatest usual achievements.

Normies can't relate to The Goose.

Serious answer: no japanese culture except the virtual idols part.

because it was a proper sequel

the original flopped as well, turdbritches

too kino for this world

No Indian actor.

Jared Leto has Indian father sir

original was better

Liked it better than the original desu

Too slow, too long, too contemplative, too kino.
Too unknown if you aren't a scifi nerd.
Normies see the cover, they imagine a dumb fast action-heavy capeshit movie.

>anglogerms
>white

The real reason is because the marketing showed fucking NOTHING in order to preserve the story and as a result nobody got hyped for it
Critically and even anecdotally among people I know it was well regarded if you didn't have the attention span of a goldfish, and is an example on how to do a sequel properly:

>more detective work this time
>goes further in actually exploring the ramifications of replicants being human
>tackles discourse/fan theories regarding the nature of Deckard and Rachael's relationship in a way that isn't dependent on the nature of their creation
>visually stunning and a believable progression from the world we left
>takes the questions of Deckard/Rachael's relationship and extends it even further with a corporate AI waifu
>Replicant character does the most human thing in the entire fucking movie at the end by instead of fighting for a cause others wish to thrust upon him, he instead decides to sacrifice himself so a man can meet his daughter

>Too unknown if you aren't a scifi nerd.
Not sure I accept this one, even had to study bladerunner at school. In retrospect that might have put some people off however

Why is the blue and orange poster meme still a thing? It looks like shit.

Showed it to 4 friends of mine and their gf, all of my male friends liked it, the women all fell asleep.
Literally a movie women will never understand, it can only flop when 50% of the world is too dense to get it.

contrast draws people's eyes or something i dunno
ironic, I felt women would be stereotypically more invested in the movie asking questions regarding the nature of love

>ayo what's a blade runner
>does he like... run marafons or somethin
>aight nah ima see the new adventurers instead i can't figure this shit out

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Complimentary colours aren't the only form of contrast, and blue and orange aren't the only complimentary colours.

It seriously lacked plot.
Whole movie could be summarized in few sentences without skipping anything important.

go ahead and do it then

It actually did okay just that it's budget was too big. Cut Ford since he's just some old man no one really cares for.

Cut the budget by half.

Harrison Ford
They quite literally could've left him out and the movie would have drastically improved.

>Serious answer: no japanese culture except the virtual idols part.

I did in fact wonder: where the hell did all the Chinese people go? Thought the idea is that "Chinatown" grew so much that it's a big part of LA now, and their culture has seeped into the mainstream. 2049 it's all Europeans.

ford was ok, didn’t care much for leto though

Because it was utter shit and people were rightfully bored out of their minds.

Leto is just a crazy cult leader could've cut him as well but Ford was a lot worse; they didn't need him in the story his story concluded by the end of the original film

>>tackles discourse/fan theories regarding the nature of Deckard and Rachael's relationship in a way that isn't dependent on the nature of their creation

Oh boy. List of shit I could care less about. You know a seies is up its own ass when it starts to go meta and explain shit like this. The fans who cared about this are like .1% of the audience. No wonder it bombed.

>>visually stunning and a believable progression from the world we left

I'm guessing the idea is that the world of the original was their version of the 40's, and today' it's modern world. Still kind of bland and boring.

>>Replicant character does the most human thing in the entire fucking movie at the end by instead of fighting for a cause others wish to thrust upon him, he instead decides to sacrifice himself so a man can meet his daughter

If you nit pick, you can see his hand is bandaged up, meaning Deckard saw that. He hid his more serious injury though. It's more akin to a suicide than a sacrifice, since he knows he's screwed and has nowhere else to go. He completed his life's mission of freedom and he's okay with that. His wound was not immediately fatal and he could have gotten medical attention and gone on the run.

because the first bladerunner flopped

>Literally a movie women will never understand, it can only flop when 50% of the world is too dense to get it.

It doesn't appeal to them. Gosling's K is a male fantasy character. He suffers and is a lonely loser but is also a chad handsome superman that all the women desire. It's a bit like Evangelion where the dorky main hero for no reason has all the girls throw themselves at him. Pure male fantasy. I do wonder if anime storytelling techniques influenced this?

Incredibly boring movie feat Jared "fucked up in the head" Leto.

Yes, exactly. Deckard and Rachel drive off into the sunset. The end. We did not need a conclusion to that. Hell, the film didn't even need to be called "Blade Runner!". We get a story with K, Luv, Joi, and then awkwardly for the last act Harrison Ford stumbles into the picture. He's unwanted, and uneeeded other than Rmemeberberries.

He's integral to the story since K is looking for the lost child. Having it be solely about K would be mostly empty, and would probably have more of that dumb android revolution plotline that thankfully went nowhere.

There is nothing "happy" about Deckard and Rachel in the original. They have zero chemistry and he all but rapes her in a love scene and now they're in love. If anything 2049 redeems that shitty plotline by having it create a miracle.

>He's integral to the story since K is looking for the lost child.

I mean duh. Just change the story. It could be another replicant child. There's no reason why you need to turn Deckard and Rachel into Joseph and Mary who gave birth to THE CHOSEN ONE. It's lazy sloppy writing to have the characters in-universe as important as the viewers see them outside of it. In-universe they were barely nobodies who maybe would have made a single news report about their escape.

Hell, this would make even more sense. New line of Replicants, specifically meant to be able to reproduce. One or two prototypes made. Bam. Insead, we have a prototype that was like 40 years old that no one can replicate? Come on!

>There is nothing "happy" about Deckard and Rachel in the original. They have zero chemistry and he all but rapes her in a love scene and now they're in love. If anything 2049 redeems that shitty plotline by having it create a miracle.

The movie is super disrepectful to Rachel actually. The characters all but phantomine with her skull or play catch with her femur. She dies off screen (which we knew was gonna happen), then people search for her bones, then a clone is made only to be killed off immediately. Jeez, just let Rachel have lived out the next few years in peace and that's it.

Cyberpunk is too depressing because even our most dystopian ideas of the future don't seem attainable from where we are presently.

We are clearly in the end times.

>There is nothing "happy" about Deckard and Rachel in the original.
>If anything 2049 redeems that shitty plotline by having it create a miracle.

Waaaaaaaay to miss the point.

>"It's too bad she won't live, but then again, who does?"

It's a greater point about the shortness of human life spans and then embracing that. She will live only 2 more years, but she will make the same choice as us. It's up to us to choose how to spend those years, and then decide to live it to the fullest. 2 years vs 50 years. Does it really matter that much in the greater scheme of things?

That's the "miracle". We don't need to have it turned into "the messiah" which only cheapens it and the themes of the first film.

The point was that Rachel was the last replicant made by Tyrell before he died which is what made her special to begin with. Something that can never be made again because it died with him.

Yes, we're living in a boring dystopia. All the sci-fi ones at least remained cool. Okay, mass poverty and corruption, but at least we get flying cars and robots. Most people would actually make the swap.

>muh male fantasy
most movies are written by men making them all "male fantasy", you're not actually saying anything parroting these tranny talking points and you will never be a woman

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Rachel had no expiration point

Just saying that different stories appeal to different people. A male fantasy film appeals to males, and female fantasy films appeal to females.

>dumb android revolution plotline
that is a tie in with the original blade runner. it is the natural evolution from rogue replicants escaping to the forming of a organized revolution.

>Rachel had no expiration point

Shit then. I thought the disrespect for Rachel was required because she had a 4 year lifespan. Hell, why not just bring her back then? Rachel and Deckard live in some cabin somewhere? Then they gave up their baby to be free or some shit?

It's to setup the third film dumbie.

The original made sense because they were all becoming self aware and leading regular lives. 2049 implements replicants that hunt other replicants so it's essentially pointless. Even K said fuck that and just saved Deckard instead

How are you going to bring Rachel back? She's supposed to be ageless. Have you seen Sean Young these days? They had to get around it so they just killed her because of child birth. Which would honestly be a fucking nightmare situation for a replicant.

Has anyone talked about how it heavily rips off Drive? So many scenes are identical. Hell, the final confronotation with the baddie near the sea with waves crashing, while Gosling drowns them, is too specific. End is identical too. Hell putting "Real human being" over the final scenes works perfectly.

IT IS EVEN THE SAME WOUND!

Drive-kun lives though

replicants becoming self aware is the point. first you understand that you have a right to freedom than you fight for that right.
and k turning away from his role is not that much of a surprise, because is baseline is tested, which means new replicants are not that subservient.

Luv was one of the newest models and she would never EVER turn on Wallace.

too dishonest

aaaaand, a woman will be writing 2099 so it's guaranteed to be finked to shit

>2 minutes of Goose staring at something and walking slowly every 10 minutes

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luv is the uncle tom... which furthers the theme of replicants being free. they are not guided by a singe programming.

normies don't understand this stuff

Luv is a house nigger, but she's happier than every revolutionary because she doesn't strive to be anything more than what she is. It's that dream that killed K. Who was essentially the same type of replicant Luv was but on the opposite side of the spectrum. He was more than content living with his fake AI wife, but dangle humanity in front of him and it was enough to break him. Even when he knew he was nothing more than what he was he still chose sacrifice. Not just because it was the "right" thing to do, but also because he had no life to return to. He gave it all up in the hopes of being human, and it left him more alone than when he started.

luv died too faggot