The Dark Knight

Where were you when Nolan saved capeshit genre?

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I wish more capeshit was like Dark Knight. Not necessarily "dark and gritty" but just not being stupid shit for babies for 2 hours and actually having interesting stories, good characters, and engaging scenes. And less reliance on shitty cartoon-looking CGI is a big plus as well.

>And less reliance on shitty cartoon-looking CGI is a big plus as well.

I mean not everyone as autistic as Nolan to build a fucking plane only to destroy it in 30 seconds scene

Batman Begins was better.

(me)
It's embarrassing that Chris Nolan produced Zack Snyder's shite DC superhero movies because holy shit Zack Snyder's DC capeshit flicks suck ass.

The Dark Knight ultimately is stupid baby shit, as is almost everything Nolan writes.
But he sure is good at making an entertaining tense movie

It's not that building an actual plane for the scene automatically makes the scene better. It's that if they had used CGI there's no fucking way in hell it would've not looked like a complete joke and ruined the tension the scene was meant to have.

The thing is there's no way you could make a movie about Iron Man or Superman without CGI

>you could never make Superman without CGI
Uhhhhhhhhh.

>goyer wrote this, also wrote bvs and rise of skywalker

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BvS wasn't worse in terms of writing

True story: I was going to see this in IMAX, every screen was sold out for the whole weekend. Some fat slob with his fat girlfriend offered me $150 to sell my tickets to him. So I sold them, went out to dinner with my girlfriend, and saw it the next weekend.

>The Dark Knight ultimately is stupid baby shit,

Name 5 stupid things from it

yeah look at this gritty down to earth realism for adults

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Stop

Way too many plotlines

That is the exception, not the rule in Dark Knight. You know that and you're pretending to not know because you don't actually have a point.

And even with CGI like that, that would never be approved for the typical capeshit movies these days for stupid teenagers.

Plus you fail to understand that bad CGI doesn't equal "for kids."

how is his eye on that side functional at all? it’s a literal cartoon. cope.
>what did you call me in the academy!!
>h-harvey two face
shit like that and him epically disarming the guy during a trial and quipping while everyone claps is hilariously infantile

no less adult than any the fx in Benjamin Button

oh, you're just autistic. ok.

user, that's just character design for one character for the end of the movie

you're being deliberately pedantic to ignore the point the other user made

quit being such a fucking faggot

I know you niggas worship this movie. But I can’t take it seriously with how ridiculous Bale looks and sounds as Batman. Dude’s nonexistent chin is melting into the cowl

>just starts insulting me because I criticised capeshit
grow up champ. you think this is a serious movie when joker wires a huge hospital to blow within a few hours

no

>champ

lol who talks like this in a serious way and isn't autistic?

This was the global blockbuster of 2008, it isn't an obscure 4chancore flick

why does being autistic make me wrong?

Why did Nolan choose to go with this goofy CGI instead of makeup, especially when he's made his distaste for CGI so known?

he saved it with begins desu

he didn't. Nolan bros wrote it, he got a story credit, mostly because of his past work in begins (which he did wrote).
Which goes to show how good Nolan really is. Original batman begins script is much weaker than the film itself.

>not a single flaw was mentioned yet
Damn Nolan is really a genius

I went back to watch the trilogy in light of the new batman
I must say the jump between Begins and TDK was quite jarring and for the worse for the most part

Also weird is how TDK can function as a standalone yet TDKR which has more in common with TDK frequently goes back and refrences Begins
It's a pretty schizophrenic trilogy

Its a crime-thriler, not a comic book movie.

I love Dark Knight because it really tries and usually succeeds in having some thematic weight unlike every other cape movie I’ve ever heard of, and it’s in my top 20, but some of my favorite moments feel odd.

Aaron Ekhart is fantastic and his Twoface is my favorite depiction, AND I love the final scene between him and Gordon/Batman, but despite how much I love his acting and delivery and dialogue, a lot of Harvey’s best lines feel like they were written before they cut out important characterizing scenes. Gordon’s “deal with the Devil” (his hesitation to get rid of corrupt cops/implied internal affairs conflict); “it’s about what’s FAIR” ( my favorite line in the movie, but Harvey’s/Twoface’s obsession is born from what exactly? Rachel didn’t die from unfairness); “decent men in an indecent time” (things seemed pretty morally imperfect among them all from the start, they do use extralegal measures regularly); “morality in a cruel world is chance” (should be the climax of his arc, but I don’t know how he gets here specifically given what we see); and then calling him Twoface in internal affairs also felt a bit too hamfisted. I have to use head canon to fill in the pieces.

1. In an absolute city lockdown, only two ferries are available for evacuation. After hours of deliberation, the national guard assists in boarding civilians/prisoners onto the ferry. During these hours of work, nobody notices hundred of barrels of Diesel in the engine room, an area vital for operation.
2. During Joker's monologue to Rachel, in front of a crowd of his goons, she kicks him in the nuts and he says "you've got a little fight in you. I like that" then Batman appears to his immediate left, in the center of a crowded ballroom, and whispers "then you're gonna love me"
3. Batman, "the world's greatest detective" enters a room of tied up men with police haircuts, during a ceremony where armed policemen are holding guns in front of the mayor. In this room, there is a scope of a tripod viewing said ceremony, right next to a loud kitchen timer that is directly connected to the window blinds overlooking the heavily guarded ceremony. Batman decides to look through this scope without questioning anything that is happening. Batman was led to this apartment because it was rented by a man whose fingerprints were taken from a shattered bullet.
4. "We don't allow cellphones in the building" as dozens of extras enter the building freely in the background. The security guard takes Fox's cellphone and puts in a drawer (a drawer which houses no other cellphones), which happens to be right under the security terminal. Upon leaving the guard who took Fox's phone is told that it wasn't Fox's phone, despite video evidence. The guard then decides to leave this phone beneath the security console, disregarding their apparent security protocol.
5. Bruce, having just lost Rachel and indirectly causing Harvey to be half-burned, decides to leave a half-burned face coin at Harvey's bedside. The Coin that he last saw Harvey using to justify terror and violence.
Nolan is great at suspense and thrilling moments, but he is fucking awful at writing a pathway to those moments.

its absolute kino

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It's a good movie, but I prefer The Dark Knight Rises

Are you gonna disprove him?

It still remains the one and only capeshit outside of Joker that deserved a best picture nom.

In line at the cinema

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Makeup adds mass. That's why the emporers head in star wars looks so big. Makeup. Lots and lots of makeup.

In this particular instance, they needed to get rid of whole sections of his face. They couldnt also accentuate his cheekbone or jawbone on that side by putting on some foundation or something and then painting over it, or using one of those monster movie masks that kind of get glued to your face. It invariably would make that side of his face, which was supposed to be burnt away, look the same size or maybe even bigger. so cgi was just a better route there specifically im guessing

I think what makes Nolan's trilogy so great is that he himself is a hero in real life. He's not just shilling for whoever is paying him money. He's an intelligent, educated, well-read philosopher who wanted to make the world a better place with his batman movies. He wanted to give people someone to root for. He also wanted to draw a clear line between good and evil, where good is on the side of law, righteousness, truth, justice, creating and evil is on the side of anarchy, greed, hatred and destruction.

so true. like when batman spies on everyone in gotham but it’s okay because he’s a billionaire.

I was 7

It's barely a Batman movie. You could replace Batman with a generic Bruce Willis or Vin Diesel character and the film would be the exact same

Do you have a zoomer haircut?

I don't know if Joker could be considered capeshit.

Agreed. But it's not what most fans of these movies seem to like. People like you and me are a rare breed.

Why not

i was sat at home drinking brain fluid

I haven't watched in a while so I don't have answers for everything but:
2. What is wrong with this? It sounds like a purely subjective take, not an actual issue with the movie
4. Maybe they don't allow cell phones to outsiders? I also thought I remembered other phones in the drawer in the scene where Fox is leaving.
Also, its a security guard who probably gets paid shit. In reality, he would not care that much. He has no reason to suspect something is going on.
5. What is the issue here? Wasn't it Harvey's coin? Why wouldn't he return it to the owner?

It doesn't have any of the typical capeshit elements. Not a single "superhero" or whatever appears on screen. Just imagine the movie but it's called "Loner" or something and Thomas and Bruce Wayne are just some other generic literal-who billionaires.
It would work just as well, no?

You’re a retarded, pedantic faggot

Don’t know if you know this user but they did make a Superman movie without cgi
Multiple times

Do you think the movie would have had nearly as much attention if it wasnt called "Joker? (This a rhetorical question. The answer is no.)

Goyer was literally only on the set because Nolan wasn’t a nerd and didn’t read the comics
For example, Nolan thought giving Batman a cape would be silly and unrealistic, Goyer said it was a major part of the character
Shit like that
The script and direction was 100% the Nolan brothers and Goyer had no influence on it at all besides being a nerd and making sure it was all comics accurate

Of course not, but that's beside the point.

So we can agree that the only reason it was a s successful as it was is because of its association with capeshit, therefore it is as guilty of being capeshit as capeshit

I disagree, though its association with capeshit was certainly used to bait people into watching it.
At most I'd say it's capeshit-adjacent.

Cope

Ok man