Why do women pretend that this isn't a problem?

Because it isn't there problem? Sort your own shit out, whining and demanding others deal with things for you is antithetical to being a man

One ends in sex

>there
dumb esl

t. Man hating banshee

*their

>Sort your own shit out
>Immediately make 95% of men irrelevant

>Sort your own shit out,

>it's entirely reasonable that men should be held to a standard that filters out 90% of them
>what? You think a woman whose morbidly obese isnt beautiful? What are you some kind of incel?

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Just a typo
I'm a man, just not a whiny bitch like you

those statistics are not surprising because 95% of men on Tinder are fucking garbage. If we were women we wouldn't match with this ugly trash either. Fucking incels raging at women for not fucking them while they themselves are fucking repulsive

This just means you have to talk to a bunch of women. Not that big of a deal. You keep flipping that coin and you finally get it.

What are the essential /roastiecore/ kinos?

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I’m 27 and just got out of a 5-year relationship. Living in a new city where I don’t know anyone. I don’t wanna use stuff like Tinder and Bumble because it seems like any guy who isn’t chad will just get totally ignored, but how the fuck else are you supposed to meet girls in 2022?

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>I'm a man, just not a whiny bitch like you
No one who simps and cucks themselves this hard has any right to call themselves a man. Idk who she is, but shes not going to fuck you

It's not a problem. Pic related can be yours for under $2.000.

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one eventually gives you her time for free while the other never will. it's like buying vs renting

>but how the fuck else are you supposed to meet girls in 2022?
You dont. You sub to their onlyfans

No one set shit about whether it's justified or reasonable, it's just how it is. If you're a man you either accept the world how it is or change the world. But you don't bitch and moan about it demanding people have pity for you

Meh. Tinder is over. It was useful for a few years, maybe 2014-2017. Now it's like Okcupid. Just a waiting game until the next app comes along.

What do you want to do?
Force them to date people?

They'll get to 30 and stop getting chad's cock and eventually have to settle.

Try hinge

I hate to break it to you but you have autism

Why don't incels just kill themselves?

>one eventually gives you her time for free
you poor gullible fuck

>change the world. But you don't bitch and moan about it demanding people have pity for you
Part of changing the world is identifying and complaining about the problem, dumbass. It's how all positive change is effected

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>not crying about how you get no bitches is now simping
The absolute state of zoomer """men"""

Some do. Many are beginning to think it might be more gratifying to kill you instead.

Pebblechuck is a member of the National-Sozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei.

I agree that this shit is horridly undermining to a man's confidence and will only exacerbate the tendencies towards depression and loneliness most youths, and young men in particular, experience. That being said, no one forces you to use them. You were always more likely to meet quality women at school, at church or at work than in a bar. Tinder is simply the online version of the late-night bar. Women prefer it because it gives them a sense of control of the proceedings, since their greatest fear is getting raped and chopped to pieces by some random stranger, however irrational that fear may seem to us.

>be decent looking
>have social skills above average
>have 10-50 matches/week depends if you swipe every day or not
Just don't be ugly and autistic. It's THAT easy

If the roles reversed and I had the choice between a super hot stacey just looking to fuck something or a 5/10 chick who may and or may not just be a boring date, which do you think most guys would choose?

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Theres no point in debating them, theyre not acting in good faith. That person is either a man hater trying to hide their power level, or some onions boy who thinks women will fuck him by pretending to care about womens issues

>at church
I went to a church for a decade and I can tell you that "church girls" are a fucking myth. Every chick who is moderately attractive in her 20s is put through a dick grinder by society

It's not a problem. Women don't want low status men. Speaking as a burnout manlet, balding in his early 20s, smol dick male, I wouldn't want me either, and I sure don't want to pass down my shit genes to a child and curse him with my fate. Personally, we should bring back polygamy and harems and just let good genes male breed as many women as they want. Us low status men we will just have to hope AI sexbots get build in our life time.

Quite a few do. Men are three times more likely to commit suicide than women. Of course, when men are statistically marginalized it's because we don't work hard enough to better ourselves :o)

So what's your endgame? You want Congress to pass a law making women have sex with ugly guys?

I want love so bad guys but I am terrified of women

The western world depends on about 40% of its men working 10 hours a day then coming home to an empty apartment just to wake up the next day and do it all again. After all someone needs to subsidize all the make-work jobs for roasties, all the welfare for blacks and immigrants and single mothers, and make the world nice for the families of the men who do make it.
>You WILL contribute to the system
>You WILL NOT get anything in return
>You WILL NOT complain about it.

Nuke all the dating websites. The market would have an easier time balancing itself after that.

You're seething this hard because you know I'm right. Absolutely nothing about you is remotely masculine, hence why you have such a feminine self-pitying worldview

>female is life on easy mode
Nothing new, user.

Women are children. Schopenhauer and the Romans told us this.

Less pretending

The difference is it's not reality because of our inherent biological differences so a "shoe on the other foot" analogy doesnt apply here. Men act in accordance to their biological rules and so do women. We've attempted to modify both over the centuries to create more positive outcomes and somehow within 70 years we've allowed the entire thing to completely unravel

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Even if you're literally peak Delon in terms of face you need great photos of you being social. Selfies, even good ones, will not do, and they will still scorn you for not being 6'0 at minimum

The quickest way to identify a misandrist is if they throw out the term incel any time anyone even mentions mens issues

Fair enough, I guess the youth club or local Extinction Rebellion is the modern-day equivalent.

This is life for the bottom 40% of men
youtu.be/NJW_av0PQXM

Threadly reminder that all revolutions in history were because young men didn't have enough to do. And most of them established rape camps during the act.

Same. I never understood the notion of hating on women for wanting chads or males closest to chads as possible. If I was a women, I would do the same.

I have. I'm a ghost.

40% Of men are not incels you retard. The vast majority have sexual partners

>So what's your endgame? You want Congress to pass a law making women have sex with ugly guys?
No, I want young boys to be raised differently so they can satisfy their own desires and be fully capable of attracting and making a mate happy.

We're openly lying to young men and just sending them out to get slaughtered

What a fucking disgusting image

How is this a modification of our biological tendencies? Why would a woman choose an ugly person over a jacked chad?

Things actually haven't changed, you need to take up hobbies and meet girls through social circles as your second and third degree contacts. It's the only way to validate her history. There's loads of good women out there but there's also loads of bad ones. I met my wife through my sister who knew her really well in her college days, it was the only real way I could validate she wasn't hiding some wild shit from me. Because while there's some good women out there, there's a lot of one's not suitable as wife material and the clever ones cover up their past.
So take up hobbies and make friends. Make friends and expand your social circle. It all starts with hobbies that get you meeting new people in the first place. As an example, in college I did ultimate frisbee which is 50/50 male female. Met loads of girls through that but I knew who has the slutty or crazy history and which were normal. Online dating is for hook ups, you have no way to validate a girl you meet online.

you a prot or something? the only worthwhile marriage material i've ever met were churchgoers, the only issue being that they were already going with their bf/husband.

um sweaty, that's rape in both cases. a woman is not obligated to have sex with you just because you paid for something.

So you acknowledge it's men's problem and something men should and can solve. That's different from OP demanding sympathy from women

These same women will go and cry about how evil masculinity is, but then will exclusively date the exact type of people they pretend to criticize. If they want to date those kind of men, then fine, but they need to stfu about femenism in that case

ye not 40 but about 30% according to last available data

The bottom 40% of men don’t reproduce and they have fleeting romantic relationships. They spend the majority of their lives in a state of inceldom with the occasional hookup every few months or years. Some might get married for a few years, but again, that’s just a fraction of their adult lives.

And if I lived a shorter lifespan while working more hours carrying a greater workload for the same pay as someone who will spend a substantially smaller share of their life in the workforce while enjoying the benefits of the public sector to a much greater degree I would probably expect something in return.

Lying how?

Thats a good deal for people who want a neurotic, self absorbed, low quality friend that constantly asks for money, bad for people that want sex.

The escort is cheaper, less hassle and more trustworthy and more honorable.

really hope she sees this bro

Copying and pasting a comment in case someone falls into the trap of 'being a good man is pointless, i must be le badass bad boy':
>I think there is a difference between being weak and good. Will was a weak pushover, but that doesn't mean a man has to actually be a abrasive asshole to thrive. Christopher Lee was fucking based and by all accounts a gentleman, but he was strong, not weak. That's the salient issue, weakness vs. strength of character, not nice and good vs. being asshole bad boy.
Basically be strong (not weak) and don't conflate this good vs. bad. This 'strength' also means not simping for women who aren't worth shit and having a backdone when they try to bullshit and fuck with you.

>boys
>attracting a mate

that's not how it works bruh

Being a faggot is based.

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>put hundreds to thousands of hours into a hobby so that you can maybe convince the one or two women that show up to let you orbit them
Holy shit, do people actually do this? It sounds like taking on a second job just to have a gambling chance at getting your pp wet after years of effort. That actually sounds significantly more soul-draining than just being an incel.

is it really THAT bad?

Because you're privileged and they're oppressed.

Like giving someone money instead of a voucher. the honest logical answer is wrong.