I have been an avid collector of physical media - mainly Blu-rays and DVDs and I have reached the point that I have to stop buying them. I also want to get rid of them to free up space in our apartment.
I'm planning to rip most of them and store them in a NAS system like picrel. I have bought a drive capable of ripping copyright protected disk but I don't have a NAS or the required HDD's for it yet.
Is there anything that I need to consider before I bite the bullet and buy a NAS? Or do you think that I should approach this in some other way?
One way or another those cases got to go. There's about 250 of them and many of them are not available on torrenting sites.
I want to be able to watch all of my movies and series from one place. I have a gaming pc but it does not have space for additional HDD's and I really don't want to keep it powered on every time I watch something on my TV.
Monitoring interesting thread for relevant information to my interests. What's a NAS and what specifically was that drive you bought that can rip copyrighted dvds?
Levi Martin
If I go the NAS route I was planning on buying four 4tb drives and using them in RAID10
Jacob Reyes
Downloading the 4k or bluray remux of every film you own would be way easier
Xavier Ward
NAS is basically a barebones pc and mass storage that is connected to internet. Some of them can act as a HTPC if they have enough processing power and correct outputs.
The drive I bought is Asus BW-16D1HT with 3.10K firmware. Drive manufacturers are trying to block users from circumventing the copyright protection by updating the firmware so that's an important point when buying a drive for ripping movies.
Parker Lee
Thing is, RAID is not backup. You would get high availability from RAID10 but for home use it's almost always inappropriate because you're trying to achieve lasting data security with something that's simply not going to provide it. Plus, this is digital copies of widely available commercial media, save the attempts at data preservation for stuff that's genuinely irreplaceable like digital photos. Some considerations: 1. Almost everything you have is likely to be already available via torrents or usenet in as good or better encodes than you will achieve yourself (without becoming a nerd about encoder settings). So list out your media in a spreadsheet and acquire them, rather than ripping which is a huge time suck for likely no gain. If you wanna be a purist and go for straight remuxes from your discs at 1:1, you're gonna need more than 4 x 8Tb to store it. 2. If you have an old laptop or PC somewhere, or can acquire one cheap, it'll do as good a job as a NAS if you attach an external USB3 drive (or two, or four) to it. Install Plex onto it and you have a decent streaming media server for your house. NAS boxes are fine, but expensive for what they are. You're paying for preconfiguration but under the hood they're just a low-power mini PC. As long as you understand that, spend away.
Charles Long
What exactly is NAS system? Does it use like website to store your data?
I know you can add harddrives to it and use those as physical but it just can't be one big box for physical drives right?
Joshua Hernandez
synology is definitely the way to go. it just fuckin works. I bought my DS420+ a few months ago on sale and it's been rock solid. I am still actually surprised how little issues I have.
Use a price watcher like Camel and keep an eye out for sales. I saved $100 by waiting a few months. Also I recommend just buy and shuck the largest drives you can afford at the beginning, because upgrading all at once is way more expensive.
Beforehand I had built a custom Unraid box and it was absolute fucking trash >licensing is fucking stupid >things would just stop working >files would randomly disappear >shares would go missing >disks acted like they were corrupt and would randomly go offline >have to install a plugin store addon just to download other essential plugins that were not included with the base install for some fucking reason >it's like pulling teeth just to manage your own disks >forum replies amounted to "oh you dummy you have to just run this 10 github script to fix this core issue that literally everyone has, it's no big deal"
Grayson Watson
What do you suggest for a 4 HDD setup if not RAID10? I will most likely store my personal photos and videos in it but I will definitely have them in another place as well for backup purposes.
It's true that there's no point ripping Amadeus 1984 from my Blu-ray copy. But a large part of my collection are Finnish movies that are not on any public torrenting sites (at least not with any seeders) and it's too hard for me to get into Finnish private trackers since I don't have anything to share in them.
Money is not an issue, I'm ready to spend up to 1k for this project. But I don't want to do anything stupid.
Alexander Walker
I was considering doing it DIY but as you said it's probably way too much hassle considering that you can buy a machine straight from the shelve and it just works.
Ian Rogers
I have the same nas as you posted Got it a few months ago, what I've learned >pretty easy to set up >my setup 4×4TB Raid 10 (8 TB of usable space) >Plex is really great, tons of fun >on web browsers and TV its free but on Android its a $5 pay wall you pay once >I don't rip, I pirate all my shit >fastest way is to get an external HDD (you can probably get away with a cheap 500 GB one) then plug it in the front USB port on the NAS >then in the nas system you just cut and paste >this is the best way since it doesn't put any strain on your router >transferring files through 10 GBPS ethernet varies >some files would spike up to 50mbps and stay there then drop down to 15mbps Spent around $500 on the nas and $80 a pop for the hard drives (I got ironwolves) I haven't but I'm pretty sure upgrading the ram and installing a nvme cache barely improves performances so don't even worry
I'd rather just buy blu rays than go through all the hoops you spergs go through just to save $20 or so
Joseph Clark
basically it's a computer that keeps data persistent by distributing it amongst multiple drives, whilst also offering ways to serve up that data.
one basic law of data storage is that unpowered data tends to decay over time. Best practice is to keep it energized, and stored in a filesystem where the files regularly have math performed on them to make sure nothing is getting corrupted. Normal Windows computers don't do this, for example.
Eli Lopez
my fellow ds420+ nigga I will say one downside is my transfer speeds aren't as great as I was hoping. I only get about 110mb/s read/write speed. But considering that streaming doesn't require that much, I'm happy
Henry Cruz
I went through this myself a few months ago, I wanted to get the HDD's out of my main computer and get something to run the plex server etc.
I thought about getting one of the typical NAS's, but ended up building a full blown SFF HTPC instead for a handful of reasons
>not much more expensive >no software limitations or custom ARM cpus >same ability to store files (my case has 6 hdd slots) >same ability to run the plex server >can output to the TV as a regular computer, which allows you do much more, such as using its youtube (instead of the TV os shitty version), or maps to show friends locations or bring up restaurant menus for everyone to see >can be used with steamlink to remote play games off my real computer
A proper NAS system is much easier to use (simple webui) and has no real setup, but the HTPC is far more versatile and that was enough to warrant it for me.
Ayden Gomez
Basically a personal cloud server Or a wireless hard drive you can acess on any device thats connected on the same wifi. You can also pirate a shit ton of movies and TV shows and make it your personal and free Netflix. Since its all on LAN the picture quality is great since its not all compressed
Connor Ross
rip a few and become trackerfag what he said but jellyfin instead of plex
William Rogers
Do it DIY, user. I built a tower with a NAS/server case, installed unRAID on it and it works great. You can install docker which makes adding on Plex/jellyfin/etc really easy
Parker Carter
There's a hubbub about not using RAID5 on drives bigger than 1Tb but IMO it's overblown. Losing half your total storage because of the risk of a second drive failing during a rebuild or degraded state... not worth it for this class of data. I currently have two DIY NAS boxes (old HP microservers) running 4 x 3Tb and 4 x 4Tb in RAID5 each. To be honest I'm considering switching them to non-raid, individual disks and just taking the hit if I lose a drive. It's all re-acquirable data for me. Anything actually important, of which I have less than 10Gb, I have replicated on Google Drive to a bunch of different machines (plus cloud). Your situation is a little different since you have some media you can't easily acquire online. I'd consider making a one-time duplicate copy from those off to some form of cold storage (e.g. cheap small HDDs that you can stick in a cupboard somewhere).
Ian Roberts
If you're on 1Gbps ethernet you're hitting the limit of the network, not the box. 100-100MB/s is about where I peak with anything on a 1Gbps network.
Elijah Martin
I'm really just looking for low iq fun with action and gore. I was told that this franchise is pretty good if that's what I'm looking for. Opinions?
>Buy NAS >Copy files to usb HDD to then attach to the NAS to not strain your router
I'm not saying you're a dumb mofo, but I'm a network admin IRL and I know not everyone can know these things, so here without judgement:
There is no strain on your router, just mount a share on your PC and drag those files over. It's literally made for that. Everything else is just dumb boomer fear.
Jordan Jones
>If you're on 1Gbps ethernet you're hitting the limit of the network
Could be, could also be hitting the HDD limit as most HDDs are between 80-120MB/s sequential read/write. 1Gbps connection is 128MB/s max theoretical.
Liam Carter
Yeah I know it sounds dumb but I'm doing everything from laptop so I can't really leave the laptop running when I'm at work. Id rather just leave it plugged in the nas and let it do itself
David Campbell
Yeah, and after overheads your find yourself down at that 100 mark or so. You could look at SMB Multichannel, if the DS420+ supports turning it on and you have a decent NIC in your desktop PC, that might bump you up to around 180MB/s. The RAID and cache in the NAS unit should be fine with that kind of speed. Shame there's no 10G card option for the DS40+.
John Cook
Usually the harddrives are the bottleneck when you go faster than that. Lots of NAS systems have 2 ports so you could trunk those with the right network hardware, but regular SATA HDDs usually cap at around 160MB/s.
This is the one I have in mind. It's a bit more expensive than Synology's equivalent but it has more RAM and a quad core processor (not sure if latter means much in media-HTPC use)
Dylan Collins
Eh, I feel Underworld and it’s sequels worst crime is being boring. The action doesn’t have anything special going for it, and the whole thing is pretty forgettable. I have no clue how it got so many sequels or the following it had
Landon Lopez
If you just want to store data on it and stream videos to your TV you don't need that much RAM or CPU Power. Most NAS Systems can run applications and docker containers, that's what the extra RAM and stuff is for. 512MB RAM and the shittest CPU is enough for 1080p, Maybe a gig of RAM for 4k.
All you need is the correct HDDs and a gigabit network interface (which they should all have these days)
Parker Peterson
You might have a point with SSDs but that’s pure nonsense with HDDs. An unused HDD will likely last at least twice as long as one in constant use. HDD failures come in three ways, manufacturing defects that usually crop up either in the first few days or at most and much rarer first three years, wear and tear from 3-5 years from the moving parts, and magnetization failures after ten years. Bit rot is another separate issue.
Aaron Cox
What happens to all that garbage when you finally keel over?
I think non-raid setup + backups for important stuff will be best for me. That way I won't lose any storage space. And as you said - There's no need to have a raid "backup" for Amadeus 1984.
Robert Howard
>apartment stopped reading right there, urbanites deserve the rope.
Michael Hill
At least you found out what my problem is
Andrew Morgan
>keep it powered on wake on LAN, baby.
Isaac Howard
based htpc user. im currently just using an old desktop as my htpc and running plex on my main desktop where my drives are for now. i am planning on building a nas soon, why do i see so many people gravitating towards 4TB drives instead of larger ones? is it just because 4TB are the best value for money or is this RAID5 issue with larger drives a real problem? for me i'll be running a cold storage copy of any genuinely important data, for my kinos i'm planning on just relying on RAID5 to keep me safe considering i can just re-acquire. i was going to run at least 4 x 10TB am i missing something important here or are the big drives prone to failure. Also does anyone know how RAID5 compares to the synology hybrid raid in real world conditions? are they just trying to lure you into their proprietary garden for no reason?
Zachary Myers
For me gravitating towards 4tb drives was because I thought that I needed a raid 5 or 10 setup. Buying three or four 8t drives would have blown out my budget.
But since I abandoned the idea of raid 5/10 I think I'll just buy one 8t drive and will add more of them in the future if necessary while keeping them all as separated volumes.
Connor Butler
>im currently just using an old desktop as my htpc and running plex on my main desktop where my drives are for now.
why would you setup a htpc... then not put all the drives on it? It acting as the file server AND the htpc is kinda the point of it
Ethan Perez
just as a proof of concept for now, i do my torrenting on my desktop so thats where the drives are. im kind of tempted to buy a nuc because i'd be able to just screw it onto the vesa mounting holes on the back of the tv.
Elijah Wood
You have a list of what you have and are you willing to sell? I'd be willing to pay of ou got anything worthwhile
Caleb Martin
Yeah. I bought an external DVD drive to rip all my movies. Seemed like a great idea until I found out how long it would take.
Easton Reed
Has anyone tried a setup with a server and NAS seperate ?
Alexander Miller
I will sell them all for a low price but the postage from Finland would make it ridiculously expensive for you
Colton Fisher
so NAS is basically setting up a private cloud accessible from anywhere? I relied on external hard disks so far, but I might be interested in getting into this as I'll be moving around a lot in the next years
Austin Butler
I have probably the largest collection of violent porn in all Australia. We're talking over 500 terabytes. All expertly catalogued and labelled. I've written an article about my data systems over at rapefetish.com
Noah Howard
Unraid is one of the best decisions I've ever made. I moved from Linux server to Unraid and the simplicity is unreal. No idea what your problem was but I'd recommend it to anyone.
Zachary Garcia
Hey ScoMo
Henry Cook
Based & twisted. What kind of system you got for them?
Camden Foster
Yeah that's it pretty much.
Cameron Rodriguez
If you only plan on storing media on it, a pre-built NAS would be fine. But unRAID can do so much, docker is great and there's a lot of really helpful YouTube content out there to get you started.
My server:
-Runs Plex -Auto downloads torrents and adds them to PLEX using a request app. -I plan on running my home security setup on it. -I can easily access my data from any windows PC on the network. -I can easily access my data remotely states away.
You can do a ton with unRAID, but if you just want to store movies somewhere it's probably not necessary, and you'd be wasting its potential.
Chase Flores
My only goal is storing all my movies and series in one place in a digital form so I can watch them on my TV & when I'm travelling etc without any hassle. I realize there's limitations with prebuilt NAS and that they can be more expensive than similarily performing DIY NAS but for me it sounds like a better way to go to just buy a pre-built one.
Sebastian Scott
I have something like this running Linux and plex attached to a 4bay Raid5 array. Works like a charm. In fact I finally had one drive failure after 5 years and managed to recover the failed one and replace all the rest one by one.
If you want to store anything long term on hard drives you need zfs. You'd be surprised how often errors occur on otherwise healthy harddrives and when you're using 4 drives in raid/unraid then you're rolling the dice 4 times, increasing your odds of failure. If you don't care about data integrity that's your call but I recently retired an old low power torrent seeding server and I tested about 15tb of old torrents, around 800gb's worth of torrents had checksum errors and some of the torrents were too old and dead to recover data from seeders. These were 5 enterprise grade HGST 10 year old hard drives with no SMART errors. Shit had silently rotted with no errors ever reported. I wouldn't recommend raid for cold storage to anyone unless you have some other form of software guaranteeing data integrity on top of it. With zfs, every month or so you read all the data on your drives and data integrity is verified and if it's fucked up it will be corrected from parity or mirror. It's a set it and forget it self healing solution.
Blake Baker
is there any pastabin for starters?
Christian Reyes
The raid array, how does it interface with the Linux mini pc type server you showed here ?
