So I've just finished watching this for the first time. Did it leave anyone else feeling underwhelmed?
It does some really great things, the score is amazing, the focus on the reality of being in space was groundbreaking for it's time and the cinematography is top notch.
The set up for the monolith being this unknowable object that gives proto-humans their sapience is an interesting but it doesn't really lead anywhere. HAL-9000 being a deranged murdering super computer seemed like it could go somewhere.. and then he just gets turned off. The monolith then flies through space where it teleports Dave in to a pocket dimension that looks like a hotel with shitty flooring, where he spends his life and then reverts into a god-foetus upon his death. All because of the monolith.
2001 is catched as fuck but nobody wants to admit it
Thomas Collins
2001 didn't look anything like this film, we were mainly listening to limp bizkit. Pretty giant fuck up if you ask me.
Mason Cooper
it's trash
Tyler King
Too slow for today standards. P A I N F U L L Y . . . . S L O W . . .
Brody Jenkins
I agree. Strauss is good but would it have killed Kubrick to get some Blink-182 in there as well?
I don't mind movies that are slow and take their time as long as it's in service of something. The opening shots to Alien are all quite slow but it's done to build suspense so it works.
I don't really understand what the slowness of 2001 is trying to achieve. What I do know is that I watched it late last night after a few beers and the last 30 minutes was a real struggle to stay awake through.
Joshua Richardson
Soundtrack is trash it makes me cringe
Aiden Foster
>Am I a brainlet Yes. It's simply a movie for few, and either you've got that spark to understand it, or you don't. You don't. It's a movie for people who are supposed to reach the enlightenment or have reached it already. It instantly clicked with me, because I am one of those few elected individuals capable of understanding Gnosis, the one, the meaning of change and the substance of the ever changing universe.
The Soundtrack is incredible, you're a fucking retard
Andrew Morales
The slowness reinforces the desolation of space and the vastness of human ignorance when compared to machine or advanced alien intelligence.
Grayson Russell
Poor music choice, fucking Blue Danuba was intended to be Austria's national anthem and represents the city of vienna, to me it would be comparable to lord of the ring having Born in the U.S.A. By Bruce springstein at the end when Aragorn unleashes the ghost.
Benjamin Davis
You're dumb. Like really dumb.
Logan Ortiz
Watch it again in a few years
Camden Gray
I'm 27. Will I suddenly enjoy it more once I turn 30?
Hunter Adams
>because I am one of those few elected individuals capable of understanding Gnosis, the one, the meaning of change and the substance of the ever changing universe Yet you didn't bother explaining these things because, in reality, you are pretentious and act like you "understand" something even though there isn't anything to understand.
Xavier Collins
It’s not about age, it’s about watching it and then watching it again when in the mood
Christopher Butler
First 25 minutes are amazing, the rest is shit.
Jaxon Rodriguez
it was mindblowing in 68, but we are all introduced to elaborate scifi concepts from birth, plus better pacing and dialogue, even in bad films. 10/10 in the moment, 6/10 in the 21st century.
Julian Fisher
You didn't ask nicely for further explanation and now that you sperged out and acted like a real jerk you are never going to get the answers spoonfed to you because everyone knows you can't handle the truth.
Tyler Murphy
>i cant explain it to you because i dont know what it means, but i want you to think r/iamverysmart
Jose Rogers
Being rude is not a very effective way to beg for answers.
Wyatt White
Wrong, the themes are eternal, and even the special fx are better than modern dogshit.
(kino) fx don't make up for 90% irrelevant dialogue in the 21st century.
Dylan Bell
I tried watching it 3 times over all my life and was bored to death.
Jordan Jones
It’s not irrelevant
Josiah Perez
Sure it's boring and slow and the plot is relatively shallow. The visuals are incredibly impressive though. The design of the futuristic technology was a more accurate prediction than anything else around that time.
Bentley Gutierrez
You still have no idea what that means or how it applies to your own existence where you have clearly been captivated by ideas and ideals.
Xavier Jackson
It's fun to watch I loved it.
Elijah Walker
The discussion of the people running the mission is just about the most interesting part.
Jaxson Young
>shallow You niggas still haven’t watched this after the first 30 minutes
Jacob Allen
2001 is a visual movie meant to be seen on a really big screen. What did you watch it on? And I hope you watched the most recent 4k release.
Xavier Cook
most of the dialogue is spoonfed scifi concepts for a boomer audience (aka exposition). this doesn't translate over time
Colton Green
I said the plot is shallow, not the themes or ideas presented or anything. As far as the actual events that take place to advance the plot, there aren't many and they could be condensed to 20 minutes. But that's not the where the film holds its value. Plots are for flicks.
Christian Evans
Then why did you have to post some excerpt from some external interview to larp like you understood what happened while you watched it?
Logan Fisher
because you faggots refuse to admit that im right about the dialogue, and that the ending makes no sense unless its explained.
Hudson Jenkins
I watched it on a 55" 4k tv in the dark, sitting about 4ft away. I thought it looked great, like I said in the OP I think the cinematography is really fantastic and I loved how much effort went in to making life in space feel real.
But outside of the visuals, I just don't think it lived up to my expectations going in to it. I'd always heard it's one of the best movies ever made and I just don't feel like it lived up to that, I guess.
In contrast I recently watched the 1957 version of the 3:10 to Yuma and I was genuinely blown away by that. It's still quite slow, but the characters, plot and physical effects had me far more engaged than anything in 2001. I know it's a bit of a silly comparison to make since they're so different, but I feel like 3:10 to Yuma is one of the best movies I've ever seen.
Joseph Brooks
>dialogue is the only way something can be demonstrated on film Go talk to your sewing circle if you are in such desperate need of conversation.
Wyatt Robinson
You are a brainlet. Based on what you've said here you missed nearly every major theme of the film. Saying you wish the HAL plot "went somewhere" is like saying "Why did Lawrence go back to the desert? Just stay home lol"
Christian Bell
>As far as the actual events that take place to advance the plot, there aren't many and they could be condensed to 20 minutes. And those moments mostly happen together. That’s the beauty of the kino.
you dont need to drag every scene 10 extra minutes every time to make that point
Xavier Evans
Movies aren't simply means of relaying information. Just read the wiki summary instead next time.
Luke Lopez
I think I understood some of the themes. Like the fact that one of the first things the proto-humans do with sapience is begin using violence against each other, whereas before the arrival of the monolith all they really do is scream at each other or get eaten by predators. The implication obviously being that further advancements in our knowledge leads to a greater ability to hurt other people.
I understand that the reason why the characters seem so emotionless aboard the Jupiter mission is because they're so far from humanity that they begin acting less human themselves.
I do stand my point that I think the whole plot with HAL is pretty lame. It's confirmed by mission control pretty early on that he's defective. HAL randomly disobeys commands like not rotating the pod so he can watch Dave and Frank's conversation. They affirm their plan to disconnect him and yet they still do what HAL says anyway, resulting in the deaths of almost everyone on board. Maybe I'm missing something here but their actions just didn't make sense to me.
Nolan Cooper
I read the book and the movie is insulting to it how about relaying ANYTHING in that extra hour wasted on nothing next time?
Jordan Flores
>the movie is insulting to it The movie was made before the book came out user. The book was practically a fan fiction larp based on kubricks script
Hudson Gomez
I'll only go so far as to say it's a visual masterpiece. Greatest movie is entirely subjective. I just watched Pans Labyrinth for the first time and I gotta say it's really mediocre to me. It's well made but I wasn't blown away by it.
Samuel Perry
>people are still falling for the big screen meme
Cameron Butler
The plot is the deepest one possible. About the destiny of humanity, evolution and the universe itself
Christopher Lewis
nah ur a pseud lole
Benjamin Phillips
>mission control pretty early on that he's defective It's not "confirmed", they assume he must be because this is the first time something "wrong" has ever happened with AI like HAL. >HAL randomly disobeys commands It's not random. HAL's disobedience is strictly and directly related to their approach with Jupiter and his inability to understand the mission. >They affirm their plan to disconnect him and yet they still do what HAL says anyway They have no reason to believe that HAL will attempt to kill everyone. >Maybe I'm missing something here but their actions just didn't make sense to me In what way?
I'm not even sure what your complaint is, or for what reason you think the whole point of the film is "pretty lame". You don't even seem to question at all why the film that has a scope so large it begins with the dawn of man chooses to have the majority of its story follow a malfunctioning AI. Did you ever stop to think why that is?
Liam Butler
Low iq moron
Isaac Wright
>deepest one possible genuinely kill yourself pseud it's good, just not for everyone, certainly not the best film ever made as 90% of people on this board would have you believe. perhaps if you were born in the 60s it would be
Henry Moore
midwit cope
Jayden Evans
Serious question: do people like you drool when you watch movies? Or are you too busy stuffing your face with candy and popcorn.
Jackson Morgan
>filtered
Nathan Torres
Why do pseuds get so ass blasted when you criticize this movie?
Brody Torres
You’re a fucking retarded waste of space, go back.
Wyatt Clark
that's rude, they were worked on together
Thomas Perry
bro it's my second favourite movie but theatre screens are still bad
Jonathan Nguyen
ywnbaw
Liam Perez
"They were worked on together" is Kubrick's nice way of saying "I had a script for a movie but I only ever adapt screenplays so I needed Arthur C Clark to legitimize it for me"
Eli Harris
>aliens.jpg you just don't get it bro
Isaac Lee
that's still rude to Clarke. maybe it'd hold if he was a no one, but at the time of collaboration he already was an established and influential writer. you're just dickriding Kubrick.
Nolan Thomas
>HAL's disobedience is strictly and directly related to their approach with Jupiter and his inability to understand the mission. No, it is because they gave him orders that conflict with each other, he was suppose to tell them everything they asked about, but also keep the final part of the mission a secret, so the only way to resolve that was to make sure they couldn't ask any more questions.